I recently did some math on buying the 20,000 gem option for $100 US and concluded that you get 7 Mastery Passes for the money, when you consider that the Mastery Passes reimburse 800 gems. That's $14.28 US per Mastery Pass and 1.75 years of participation, assuming 4 sets per year. Put into that context it seems like a decent deal as long as you are putting in the time.
Good walk-through of the one-time bundles! I went specifically to your channel hoping you would have this kind of video up, and I was not disappointed!
Noob here on MtG Arena, was contemplating buying something, this helped me so much to make an informed decision, thnx 😘 Only one caveat is that I cent seem to get to buy something, if I try it gets stuck in endless loading loop and then I have to restart the game again. Not sure if I ever will be able to actually buy something. (running on Macbook)
Could you please do a break down of the value of the Phychic frog's Horizon Hideaway? I play pretty much every day and always complete the Mastery Pass but I'm not sure if this Hideaway thing is a good value.
Do you ever buy packs or cosmetics with gems? If not - nope! I mean if you have 40k gems floating around then sure - go for it - but basically the draft token is the only real thing unless you want modern packs And with it being a pass style thing you can wait til the final day, look at your tickets stash, and decide whether its more valuable to you than a couple of gem drafts
For a standard-only player, the only worth out of that hideaway is the draft token (worth 1500gems) and the 8 packs which translate to 1.33x Rare WC + 0.8x Gold Pack (if counted towards). If we based the value of rares on pack costs in store (200gems)... considering you're only getting on average 3-4 standard legal rares/mythics out of the gold pack, that's a total of about 2500gems return on your 2800gems investment. Not worth it imo. On the other hand, if you care about historic and MH then it's very worth it. I'm sure I don't have to go into specifics. 10mythics guaranteed + 8packs of cards you're interested in + 1 draft token is huge value. Its basically a mini-mastery pass.
thanks for your videos leaning a lot from them. I am a returning MTG arena player and I am in a bit of a bind because I came back just at the tale end of a set I really really enjoyed namely bloomburrow. I drafted as many drafts of it as i could before it cycled out but I still would like to build a few decks that need 4 x bunch of the rare's from that set and I mostly have 1 maybe 2 of those. I am also missing some commons and uncommons that I need but i do have some wild cards to cover that. The question is am I better to buy bloomburrow packs and miss out on the golden packs or should I buy the latest set packs to get the golden packs and just play long game to try and get the wildcards i need for my fun bloomburrow decks that i want to build. I don't actually mind spending some money(those rare and mythic wildcards look very very overpriced thought) and have about 7k gems left over from when i played before. Any advice on how to best fill in old sets?
@@ravenofra1114 generally it's better to get the most recent packs and get the extra golden packs. You also get a free rare wildcard for every 6 packs opened. It depends on a few things, but I'd most likely buy the Duskmourn packs, open them and the golden packs, then use your wildcards to craft the missing Bloomburrow rares. There will be a change to golden packs where all standard packs will give you the progress eventually, but not yet.
I don't want to give wizards my money off principle simply because of that dumbass hideaway shop. Imagine you have to spend 20€ to be able to redeem your tickets that you grinded, and the rewards aren't all that either even if you play historic.
I would maybe compare the wild cards to packs as opposed to the wild card purchase. I know wild cards are worth more than packs but it might be a better way to compare an upper and lower bound of the value
I haven't thought of things that way because I just assume everyone is in their own Arena bubble, but yeah if you know someone else who loves to draft, let them have fun and win you some gems, they'll love it :)
I've purchased the Welcome and Adventurer bundles for each of my 3 accounts when I first started each one... mostly so I could use the gems for Mastery Pass... then go almost exclusively FTP from there! These extra 2 offers don't seem worth it to me... I always have draft tokens in excess from Mastery Pass and also buying them when offered at a discount (for gold) during the season. Cheers!
Yeah I agree, I'm not likely to spend money on the new offers either, unless I decide to invest more than the occasional Mastery Pass Pre-Order, but I haven't even done that for the past 6 months or more.
@@gameschooldadMTGI’m just getting back in myself. Probably too late at this point to get the mastery pass, but will next set. Are you saying there is a mastery set preorder? Is there a deal on it?
@@davidbartsch255 there's always a $15 pre-order that comes out a few weeks before a new set, gives you the mastery pass (3400 gem value) and a copy of a specific rare/mythic.
one mythic wildcard is 24 packs + 1 in 30 packs. 4 x mythic wildcards would require you to open approx 60 packs which would net you also 8 + 2 x rare w/c. so in pack terms lets say 48 packs = 3 mythic and 9 rare. 48 packs = 9600 gems + 1500 gems for the value of the cost of 9200 gems
Just so I understand, you're saying that you'd get a similar number of wildcards to the Spark Bundle if you paid for approx 48 packs? But 48 packs would cost 9,600 gems, which would cost you around $50 in the store. Are you saying that makes the Spark Bundle good value?
I would say don't spend any money. MTG is way overpriced and they think people will just keep spending, every time they release product. MTG is not consumer friendly and you continuing to buy this crap is why they'll never care.
@@gameschooldadMTG you're absolutely correct. My point is that arena is a money grab. If you want to spend hundreds of dollars on what is basically a video game, be my guest. Real magic cards are way overpriced but digital online gaming shouldn't be charging you over and over. Again, you're right, it's absolutely your choice. I will choose to not spend another dime on it.
I recently did some math on buying the 20,000 gem option for $100 US and concluded that you get 7 Mastery Passes for the money, when you consider that the Mastery Passes reimburse 800 gems. That's $14.28 US per Mastery Pass and 1.75 years of participation, assuming 4 sets per year. Put into that context it seems like a decent deal as long as you are putting in the time.
Good walk-through of the one-time bundles! I went specifically to your channel hoping you would have this kind of video up, and I was not disappointed!
Cool, glad it was useful 👍
I wish this Planeswalker bundle would be available once per season so everybody could get to consistently draft every set for a decent value.
Noob here on MtG Arena, was contemplating buying something, this helped me so much to make an informed decision, thnx 😘 Only one caveat is that I cent seem to get to buy something, if I try it gets stuck in endless loading loop and then I have to restart the game again. Not sure if I ever will be able to actually buy something. (running on Macbook)
Thanks for the comment. I'm not sure why you wouldn't be able to buy anything, but you can always report a bug to them if you can't do anything else.
@@gameschooldadMTG found a work around, on mobile it works. still will report the bug.
Could you please do a break down of the value of the Phychic frog's Horizon Hideaway? I play pretty much every day and always complete the Mastery Pass but I'm not sure if this Hideaway thing is a good value.
I was just going to suggest this as well! Cheers!
I should be recording that one tonight to publish tomorrow ideally!
Do you ever buy packs or cosmetics with gems? If not - nope!
I mean if you have 40k gems floating around then sure - go for it - but basically the draft token is the only real thing unless you want modern packs
And with it being a pass style thing you can wait til the final day, look at your tickets stash, and decide whether its more valuable to you than a couple of gem drafts
For a standard-only player, the only worth out of that hideaway is the draft token (worth 1500gems) and the 8 packs which translate to 1.33x Rare WC + 0.8x Gold Pack (if counted towards). If we based the value of rares on pack costs in store (200gems)... considering you're only getting on average 3-4 standard legal rares/mythics out of the gold pack, that's a total of about 2500gems return on your 2800gems investment. Not worth it imo.
On the other hand, if you care about historic and MH then it's very worth it. I'm sure I don't have to go into specifics. 10mythics guaranteed + 8packs of cards you're interested in + 1 draft token is huge value. Its basically a mini-mastery pass.
@@snackplaylovehell the draft tokens nearly worthless to us that hate draft like me. Always feel screwed by rng but yall have fun with it
thanks for your videos leaning a lot from them. I am a returning MTG arena player and I am in a bit of a bind because I came back just at the tale end of a set I really really enjoyed namely bloomburrow. I drafted as many drafts of it as i could before it cycled out but I still would like to build a few decks that need 4 x bunch of the rare's from that set and I mostly have 1 maybe 2 of those. I am also missing some commons and uncommons that I need but i do have some wild cards to cover that. The question is am I better to buy bloomburrow packs and miss out on the golden packs or should I buy the latest set packs to get the golden packs and just play long game to try and get the wildcards i need for my fun bloomburrow decks that i want to build. I don't actually mind spending some money(those rare and mythic wildcards look very very overpriced thought) and have about 7k gems left over from when i played before. Any advice on how to best fill in old sets?
@@ravenofra1114 generally it's better to get the most recent packs and get the extra golden packs. You also get a free rare wildcard for every 6 packs opened. It depends on a few things, but I'd most likely buy the Duskmourn packs, open them and the golden packs, then use your wildcards to craft the missing Bloomburrow rares. There will be a change to golden packs where all standard packs will give you the progress eventually, but not yet.
I don't want to give wizards my money off principle simply because of that dumbass hideaway shop. Imagine you have to spend 20€ to be able to redeem your tickets that you grinded, and the rewards aren't all that either even if you play historic.
Hideaway looks like a scam lol. You pay almost regular mastery pass value and get an opportunity to exchange ticktets xD
I would maybe compare the wild cards to packs as opposed to the wild card purchase. I know wild cards are worth more than packs but it might be a better way to compare an upper and lower bound of the value
If you have draft tokens from the mastery pass that you’ve not used then find a friend who loves to draft and invite them round!
I haven't thought of things that way because I just assume everyone is in their own Arena bubble, but yeah if you know someone else who loves to draft, let them have fun and win you some gems, they'll love it :)
@@gameschooldadMTG (its me - I’m the person getting bonus free drafts - my friend now has more gems than I do and it’s sickening 😂)
I was hoping you wold review these offers!
I'm glad I didn't disappoint 😁
I've purchased the Welcome and Adventurer bundles for each of my 3 accounts when I first started each one... mostly so I could use the gems for Mastery Pass... then go almost exclusively FTP from there! These extra 2 offers don't seem worth it to me... I always have draft tokens in excess from Mastery Pass and also buying them when offered at a discount (for gold) during the season. Cheers!
Yeah I agree, I'm not likely to spend money on the new offers either, unless I decide to invest more than the occasional Mastery Pass Pre-Order, but I haven't even done that for the past 6 months or more.
@@gameschooldadMTGI’m just getting back in myself. Probably too late at this point to get the mastery pass, but will next set. Are you saying there is a mastery set preorder? Is there a deal on it?
@@davidbartsch255 there's always a $15 pre-order that comes out a few weeks before a new set, gives you the mastery pass (3400 gem value) and a copy of a specific rare/mythic.
Welcome and the Adventure bundle is Best,sure For New Players,Buying WildCards is a Waste Agreed 👍
one mythic wildcard is 24 packs + 1 in 30 packs. 4 x mythic wildcards would require you to open approx 60 packs which would net you also 8 + 2 x rare w/c. so in pack terms lets say 48 packs = 3 mythic and 9 rare. 48 packs = 9600 gems + 1500 gems for the value of the cost of 9200 gems
Just so I understand, you're saying that you'd get a similar number of wildcards to the Spark Bundle if you paid for approx 48 packs? But 48 packs would cost 9,600 gems, which would cost you around $50 in the store. Are you saying that makes the Spark Bundle good value?
Well... i don't have the welcome bundle available... anybody know why?
Usually this would only not be available if you've already bought it. If you haven't bought it in the past, then I can't think of any other reason.
These one time purchase bundle never leave the store, correct?
Unless they decide to change them. The first 2 have been the same for years.
Could you please add chapters?
It never was and never will.
I would say don't spend any money. MTG is way overpriced and they think people will just keep spending, every time they release product. MTG is not consumer friendly and you continuing to buy this crap is why they'll never care.
I hardly spend any money on Arena, and I'm a fan of the f2p strategy, but there's nothing wrong with spending money if you want to.
@@gameschooldadMTG you're absolutely correct. My point is that arena is a money grab. If you want to spend hundreds of dollars on what is basically a video game, be my guest. Real magic cards are way overpriced but digital online gaming shouldn't be charging you over and over. Again, you're right, it's absolutely your choice. I will choose to not spend another dime on it.
@@gameschooldadMTG I've probably spent well over a hundred bucks on a video game. I feel like that's probably the low end, too.