Unless I missed it, you didn't mention bodywork corrosion. I've had 3 McLarens from brand new, a 540c (I only had this for a couple of months), a 570s Spider and a 720s Spider and both the 570 and 720 suffered from corrosion of both front wings. This was not a big deal for me because the work was covered under warranty but outside of the 5 year (I think) bodywork warranty, I would be very wary indeed. I believe the 720s wing replacements cost somewhere in the region of £30k for the 2. The work required on my last service for the 720s, which I kept for 3 years, totalled over £9k (3 failed springs ++++). The car had done just over 8,000 miles. Again almost all of this work, apart from the service itself, was covered by the warranty but if I'd kept it 4 years, that would have been down to me. You have to be brave and rich to buy one of these things outside of warranty, in my opinion.
How is there corrosion when the bodies are made from Carbon fiber or plastic composites? Little to no steel, unless it's aluminum panels, and that corrosion is easily dealt with.
I am sure you can buy extended warranties but they are more expensive for McLarens than many other models - I would never buy one without an extended warranty, just an additional cost of owning such a car. I didn't mention in my rant that the cars are fantastic to drive; you just need to know what you are getting into. @@realasscracka
My thoughts, too, but paint bubbled around the wheel arches of my 570s Spider and 720s Spider within 2 years from brand new, and both wings needed replacing. Part of the problem with McLaren is that they don't release their paint codes to independent body shops, so you have no alternative but to go through McLaren for this kind of repair. McLaren dealerships are franchises, so they love it when they are asked to do warranty repair work, I imagine McLaren head office are less enthusiastic. HO do not support their franchisees well either; they wouldn't even lend me a car when my 720s was in for 3 weeks having the repair work carried out - that I was until I complained to the CEO - they then lent me an Audi!!!!! When one is buying a car on PCP, there is a real cost to being without it for extended periods because it wasn't built correctly.@@ctdope
@Grahamponting WOW. That sounds very frustrating, and it sounds like they have little to no respect for their customers. I dont know if they treat their customers like that here in the US. I have heard about their refusal of paint codes. Thats sad. Their cars look beautiful, but it looks as if after they sell it, they dont care much about you. Sorry for your bad experience. Hope they get better at customer relations.
Four common issues: Power trains; electrical systems, body panels, and upholstery. Other than that everything works fine. The cigarette lighters are reliable - somewhat.
At 8700miles, my 570S engine light came on with "mis-fire cylinder 8". Ended up that oil had eaten the inside of a turbo and caused havoc. $92,000 complete engine replacement. Took 7.5 months, fortunately on warranty. Car never ran the same after. Some malfunction message almost every start. IRIS screen had constant problems.
McLaren 12c, 570 and 650 are excellent cars. A full pre purchase inspection by a McLaren expert and changing all the hose clips for Murray hose clips from Thorney Motorsport will ensure new owners have a wonderful owner experience. Performance, handling and ride are outstanding
I had a 570s for 1 year. It showed up with door faults and the ac didn't work. Anytime the car was washed it would shut down randomn electronics or throw a fault, it never worked properly. The firewall detached and was sitting on the frame. The car was garaged on a battery tender and the car 50% of the time wouldn't recognize the key. I'd have to wave it around the car to get it to recognize key. Worst made car I've ever owned.
I owned a 765 LT for 2 years with 5500 miles and have no problems so far. (Tuned DME) I have 1 problems with the aventador when it only 1000 miles (engine won’t start and has to towed to dealer) another problem with aventador is battery went out too fast when park at home. I have a 488 spider with 9000 miles and have no problem with it. IMO i still like the aventador the best. (1- doors goes up, 2- it shoot flames and loud with IPE exhaust, 3- it is 12 cylinders, 4- body shape looks more masculine like a fighter jet inside and out
Most exotics will have some kind of quirky issues about them. As long as manufacturers fix and update them to make it better than it’s all good to me. It’s when they know about it and deny or don’t do anything about it is when I draw the line
The fact a manufacturer of racing engines decided a water thermostat that failed would stop any water flow (for the sake of a bypass hole) is ridiculous for a road car application.
What many people fail to Realize is that McLarens are "Real Race Cars" and not necessarily production cars... Ie: their quality control is not going to be excellent like a Merc, or BMW, or Porsche. They make excellent race cars, and their manufacturing process growing so rapidly has some quality control issues, as well as quirks that will iron out in due time. If anyone has owned a race car, or a complete Frame off car.. it will always need tending to.m especially when it's driven hard. If you want reliability get a Toyota... If you want a white knuckle experience, heart out of your stomach, thrillride.. get a McLaren.. with a great crew Chief.. and enjoy my Friends .. 😉💯
Great value for what it is. A lot of car and technology for the money. Same thing, just gotta get a good PPI and inspect over everything before purchase.
Great video! I am in the market and trying to decide between the 650s spider or the 570s spider. Do you all have a recommendation on which way to go? I’m learning it may be more just personal choice… but curious if you had any insights. Enjoyed the video - thx!
I have had 3 570's the first of which was a Spider. The spider made some weird noises that I didn't like, I think it was chassis flex. I test drive a 650S and honestly that is what I would get because it had a fantastic ride! I don't want to sell the 570s short because I am enamored with them in the coupe form.
One Comment--Used McLarens have substantially gone up in value as a result of the reduction in production at McLaren. The 570s has become a collectible as they are no longer in production. A used 2020 HDK 570s Spider will fetch around $235,000.
@@TrustMeIKnowEverything huh? You can’t even get an old mp4 for $100k. Keep living that lie. The average price of a 570 spider is around $200k. Cheapest ones are $160ish with a shit ton of miles, 55k+. lol
@@nitrostackr yeah high mileage 50k 60k miles. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Nobody wants a car like that. ANY supercar is much cheaper with high mileage. You can find a 458 for 150ish. Try finding a car with under 15k miles. Good luck getting a 570 for under 175k and mp4 for under $130k.
@@MrGB1999 recalls are fixed for free. And if you didn’t have these minor issues within the first 3 years then most likely you won’t have a problem. As with any car having no warranty is just plain stupid.
@@executiveinvestmentsI can't entirely agree. If you spend that money on the car, and you want it to be reliable and high quality, you may go for Porsche.
@@PeterPorsche when you have owned both and not get ur information from RUclips come back and comment. My 720 has been rock solid not a single issue. My Porsche had several issues, several 02 sensors, and a $9k front diff that went bad. McLarens are more reliable. If they weren’t so reliable my McLaren tech wouldn’t own 2 of them right now. You keep watching and believing the fake videos on RUclips that are made just for clicks and money.
Glad you did. Mclaren drives so good compared to others in the same class. Some quality control issues that could easily be remedied and it’s back on road to enjoy.
Windscreens crack, doors stop working, electronics go very spazzy, some set on fire... It's a crap shoot buying a McLean let's be honest, and probably very good reason why their extended warranties are c. £3.5-4k / $5k +
It's the super thin windshields on the 600lt that crack,the door issue is on the 650/675 as is the screwy IRIS problems. You're twice as likely to burn up in a Lambo or a Ford. So what if the extended warranty is $5k your in a supercar, parts aren't cheap and every car breaks down. I love my 570s.
@@Jonnybarbs I've owned 3 and I'm afraid he is right! I only persevered with cars 2 and 3 because the depreciation was so catastrophic that only McLaren would give a sensible price against a new car, essentially I was stuck with them.
"WE have solutions for all these problems " 😅😅🤣 TO be honest, I don't want these problems - to cost so much pain and money. THAT'S WHY I PASSED FOR MCLAREN AND BOUGHT A 2021 ACURA NSX. He didn't even mention the Cam Phasers that goes kaput at around 6,000 miles and in need to remove the engine to install the same low-quality cam phaser.
Unless I missed it, you didn't mention bodywork corrosion. I've had 3 McLarens from brand new, a 540c (I only had this for a couple of months), a 570s Spider and a 720s Spider and both the 570 and 720 suffered from corrosion of both front wings. This was not a big deal for me because the work was covered under warranty but outside of the 5 year (I think) bodywork warranty, I would be very wary indeed. I believe the 720s wing replacements cost somewhere in the region of £30k for the 2. The work required on my last service for the 720s, which I kept for 3 years, totalled over £9k (3 failed springs ++++). The car had done just over 8,000 miles. Again almost all of this work, apart from the service itself, was covered by the warranty but if I'd kept it 4 years, that would have been down to me. You have to be brave and rich to buy one of these things outside of warranty, in my opinion.
can U buy an Xtended warranty, will the 750s have the same issues
How is there corrosion when the bodies are made from Carbon fiber or plastic composites? Little to no steel, unless it's aluminum panels, and that corrosion is easily dealt with.
I am sure you can buy extended warranties but they are more expensive for McLarens than many other models - I would never buy one without an extended warranty, just an additional cost of owning such a car. I didn't mention in my rant that the cars are fantastic to drive; you just need to know what you are getting into. @@realasscracka
My thoughts, too, but paint bubbled around the wheel arches of my 570s Spider and 720s Spider within 2 years from brand new, and both wings needed replacing. Part of the problem with McLaren is that they don't release their paint codes to independent body shops, so you have no alternative but to go through McLaren for this kind of repair. McLaren dealerships are franchises, so they love it when they are asked to do warranty repair work, I imagine McLaren head office are less enthusiastic. HO do not support their franchisees well either; they wouldn't even lend me a car when my 720s was in for 3 weeks having the repair work carried out - that I was until I complained to the CEO - they then lent me an Audi!!!!! When one is buying a car on PCP, there is a real cost to being without it for extended periods because it wasn't built correctly.@@ctdope
@Grahamponting WOW. That sounds very frustrating, and it sounds like they have little to no respect for their customers. I dont know if they treat their customers like that here in the US. I have heard about their refusal of paint codes. Thats sad. Their cars look beautiful, but it looks as if after they sell it, they dont care much about you. Sorry for your bad experience. Hope they get better at customer relations.
Four common issues: Power trains; electrical systems, body panels, and upholstery. Other than that everything works fine. The cigarette lighters are reliable - somewhat.
At 8700miles, my 570S engine light came on with "mis-fire cylinder 8". Ended up that oil had eaten the inside of a turbo and caused havoc. $92,000 complete engine replacement. Took 7.5 months, fortunately on warranty. Car never ran the same after. Some malfunction message almost every start. IRIS screen had constant problems.
Factory warranty or did you have a 3rd party ? If so can u tell me which u used ??
@@Sobie28 factory warranty. The 2016 570S came with three years. I purchased a 4th and 5th for $7200 each
@@extra-dry oh nice. Who did u use ? Laselle I have for my Mas MC conv stopped covering McLarens.
@@Sobie28 i live in the U.S.. I bought the extended warranty through the dealer from McLaren North America headquartered in Houston Texas
Great video Kenny! I actually looked at a 570s recently and thought "I know it has issues but nothing that scares me" so it's good to see this video.
Thank you. Let us know if you need any help
McLaren 12c, 570 and 650 are excellent cars. A full pre purchase inspection by a McLaren expert and changing all the hose clips for Murray hose clips from Thorney Motorsport will ensure new owners have a wonderful owner experience. Performance, handling and ride are outstanding
Great video, tons of valueble information with a little ad on the end with value tied to it. Who doesn't want 100-200 more HP?? lol
Kenny you guys are elite status no doubt about it and yet you still keep it cool and stylish. Loved that ending. "Where is everybody". Lol
Thank you Curtis!
Great video. I wouldn’t trust my car anywhere else. PPI 💯
I had a 570s for 1 year. It showed up with door faults and the ac didn't work. Anytime the car was washed it would shut down randomn electronics or throw a fault, it never worked properly. The firewall detached and was sitting on the frame. The car was garaged on a battery tender and the car 50% of the time wouldn't recognize the key. I'd have to wave it around the car to get it to recognize key. Worst made car I've ever owned.
Yeah sure. That’s what happens when you buy a salvaged title car that was wrecked in an accident. Love how people never tell the entire story.
Sounds like car from Coopart
It was from mclaren Houston. It wasn't a slavaged title.
@@gtrzero2157 what year was the car produced? Spider or coupe?
I owned a 765 LT for 2 years with 5500 miles and have no problems so far. (Tuned DME)
I have 1 problems with the aventador when it only 1000 miles (engine won’t start and has to towed to dealer) another problem with aventador is battery went out too fast when park at home.
I have a 488 spider with 9000 miles and have no problem with it.
IMO i still like the aventador the best. (1- doors goes up, 2- it shoot flames and loud with IPE exhaust, 3- it is 12 cylinders, 4- body shape looks more masculine like a fighter jet inside and out
Most exotics will have some kind of quirky issues about them. As long as manufacturers fix and update them to make it better than it’s all good to me. It’s when they know about it and deny or don’t do anything about it is when I draw the line
The fact a manufacturer of racing engines decided a water thermostat that failed would stop any water flow (for the sake of a bypass hole) is ridiculous for a road car application.
I work with a guy that had his GTR done at your shop and he recommended you for my lexus sc 400. Ill be calling soon
What many people fail to Realize is that McLarens are "Real Race Cars" and not necessarily production cars... Ie: their quality control is not going to be excellent like a Merc, or BMW, or Porsche. They make excellent race cars, and their manufacturing process growing so rapidly has some quality control issues, as well as quirks that will iron out in due time. If anyone has owned a race car, or a complete Frame off car.. it will always need tending to.m especially when it's driven hard. If you want reliability get a Toyota... If you want a white knuckle experience, heart out of your stomach, thrillride.. get a McLaren.. with a great crew Chief.. and enjoy my Friends .. 😉💯
Yep, agreed. They are a relatively a young car manufacturer compared to Lambo, Porsche and Ferrari
570S here von 2019. 11000 km. Perfect car without any problems.
from 2019
Awesome information
breaking springs and windshield as well
Video is on point, thanks for putting it together! What are your thoughts on the MP4-12C?
Great value for what it is. A lot of car and technology for the money. Same thing, just gotta get a good PPI and inspect over everything before purchase.
good video online from Thornley Motorsport about these@@LunaTik_67
I saw a video in which an aftermarket part was attached to the 570's 12V battery because of a drain issue? Is that also a good "upgrade"?
Best in the bizz
Very informative thankyou for this video 🍻
Jotech rocks
Great video! I am in the market and trying to decide between the 650s spider or the 570s spider. Do you all have a recommendation on which way to go? I’m learning it may be more just personal choice… but curious if you had any insights. Enjoyed the video - thx!
I have had 3 570's the first of which was a Spider. The spider made some weird noises that I didn't like, I think it was chassis flex. I test drive a 650S and honestly that is what I would get because it had a fantastic ride! I don't want to sell the 570s short because I am enamored with them in the coupe form.
Buy a Porsche much better, you will lose loads of money,and there ugly that's my opinion
One Comment--Used McLarens have substantially gone up in value as a result of the reduction in production at McLaren. The 570s has become a collectible as they are no longer in production. A used 2020 HDK 570s Spider will fetch around $235,000.
Not any more hahaha they are 100k
@@TrustMeIKnowEverything huh? You can’t even get an old mp4 for $100k. Keep living that lie. The average price of a 570 spider is around $200k. Cheapest ones are $160ish with a shit ton of miles, 55k+. lol
There’s 12Cs for sale for under $90k and 570S for under $130k now
@@nitrostackr yeah high mileage 50k 60k miles. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Nobody wants a car like that. ANY supercar is much cheaper with high mileage. You can find a 458 for 150ish. Try finding a car with under 15k miles. Good luck getting a 570 for under 175k and mp4 for under $130k.
@@executiveinvestments check European prices. Way less in UK for 12c and 570 are well under 100k
So the labor caused lots of $$$$$$ + parts too..yikes.. McLaren need to fix those for free.
Who said mclaren doesn’t fix them for free? Under warranty of course any issue is fixed for free.
@@executiveinvestments ie via out of warranty recalls...
@@MrGB1999 recalls are fixed for free. And if you didn’t have these minor issues within the first 3 years then most likely you won’t have a problem. As with any car having no warranty is just plain stupid.
What are the part numbers for the Coolant lines?
So basically McLaren makes a pretty shitty vehicle, but you guys can help fix their incompetence. Great job guys!
Thanks dude!
Yeah because a few cars had a few of these minor issues. That makes for a shitty car. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Says a dude that will never be able to afford one
Any 3rd party warranties you recommend?
We don’t know a good one to recommend
I have a solution to all the McLaren issues.... just don't buy a McLaren... 😂🤣
You sound very jelly that you can’t afford one. Truth is very few cars have issues.
Just bought one a new gt. brill
Slowrari fan boy
@@executiveinvestmentsI can't entirely agree. If you spend that money on the car, and you want it to be reliable and high quality, you may go for Porsche.
@@PeterPorsche when you have owned both and not get ur information from
RUclips come back and comment. My 720 has been rock solid not a single issue. My Porsche had several issues, several 02 sensors, and a $9k front diff that went bad. McLarens are more reliable. If they weren’t so reliable my McLaren tech wouldn’t own 2 of them right now. You keep watching and believing the fake videos on RUclips that are made just for clicks and money.
Just bought a mclaren gt. so far so good,looks great drives great👍
Glad you did. Mclaren drives so good compared to others in the same class. Some quality control issues that could easily be remedied and it’s back on road to enjoy.
used 570 or new 911?
This was a good video! Where are you guys?
Never mind, I see you’re in Texas
We’re located in Dallas TX. Www.jotechracing.com
What/where are those coolant hose located on the 570? I want to inspect mine.
It’s right next to the turbochargers particularly the driver side
Windscreens crack, doors stop working, electronics go very spazzy, some set on fire... It's a crap shoot buying a McLean let's be honest, and probably very good reason why their extended warranties are c. £3.5-4k / $5k +
Do you own one?
It's the super thin windshields on the 600lt that crack,the door issue is on the 650/675 as is the screwy IRIS problems. You're twice as likely to burn up in a Lambo or a Ford. So what if the extended warranty is $5k your in a supercar, parts aren't cheap and every car breaks down. I love my 570s.
@@Jonnybarbs I've owned 3 and I'm afraid he is right! I only persevered with cars 2 and 3 because the depreciation was so catastrophic that only McLaren would give a sensible price against a new car, essentially I was stuck with them.
"WE have solutions for all these problems " 😅😅🤣 TO be honest, I don't want these problems - to cost so much pain and money.
THAT'S WHY I PASSED FOR MCLAREN AND BOUGHT A 2021 ACURA NSX.
He didn't even mention the Cam Phasers that goes kaput at around 6,000 miles and in need to remove the engine to install the same low-quality cam phaser.
Weird I have 23,000 miles on mine and don't have these issues.
2nd gen NSX is my dream car
Andrew Tate:What colour is your Bugatti?
Me:Black I love the scooter it's so fast
Not rich so I’ll stick to used Porsches, a LOT less risk even if slower.
I love Porsche but there isn't any excitement with them unless you're on a track or spirited drive
I'd like an updated ho...
Regarding the key fob... can't fix stupid. I guess common sense isn't so common.. lmao!! Great vid just can't believe owners are that dumb.
No, I don't want to buy a McLaren. I just tuned in to see what problems McLaren owners have, to make me feel better about my AMC Pacer.
Good luck with that. 95% of mclaren owners have zero issues.
Oo so I hear you want to buy a McLaren do you lol..😂
All these problems are just poor engineering.