This will instigate huge negative emotional unrest in USA. How can Yankees accept such positive declaration on China's products? Yankees would say they are copycat, stealing, threatening of USA technologies. USA is proud to be the first among all things. Otherwise, they should be sanctioned, heavily taxed and arrested.
That's what China does. They don't allow any foreigner tech into China. Why can't US do that? hello. It is a national security issue. You are just not informed enough to see it.
Ah, the ole "national security concerns" again. Let me help Translate that: "We used to be market leading but we rested on our laurels while a Chinese company innovated and rose to dominate the market. Our American companies have tried to compete and have gotten their asses kicked, so they need help from Uncle Sam to try and cripple their Chinese competition".
Funny thing, once upon a time the US was the absolute leader in solar panels, both in research and in production of them. But the US abandoned them (likely due to pressure from the Oil companies), Europe tried its hand at them but with pitiful investments, and this opened the way for China to out-invest Europe more than 10 to 1 in solar panel production; now China has about 80% of the global solar panel market share (with about 40% of the solar panels made in the world getting installed inside China itself), and also controls at least 75% of the production of each and every component used in solar panels. This would have happened with electric vehicles too if it wasn't for Tesla. I mean, China will likely win out in the end because Tesla doesn't seem to be interested in making cheap cars, and electric cars already turned China into the world's top exporter of EVs (despite over half of all EVs in the world being sold and used inside China), but without Tesla then China would just have steamrolled the rest of the world when it comes to EVs.
And DJI. And the sanctions did not prevent these companies from staying # 1 in the world. They however do increase the cost to US customers. This is an example of shooting yourself in the foot. The repeated use of this type of santion is an example of shooting yourself in the leg after shooting yourself in the foot.
@@mgronich948 It didn't increase cost to US consumers, that would be a tariff, what the entity list actually did was cutting American companies ability to supply world's largest drone maker, effectively destroy any prospect of US ever building it's own supply chain and its own drones. i.e. a fatal combination of arrogance and ignorance.
US builds too many walls trying to sanction others until it traps them in a jail built by itself. One example was they used to be able to buy the best products from all over the world at good prices, therefore many product reviews first coming from them. But nowadays their EV and electronics product reviews are so pathetic and limited as many brands not selling in US. I rather watch Europe, Asia & China reviews and so many comments complaining that they couldn't get those in the US.
China's not looking to compete they're looking to dominate and squeeze out competition. By limiting their infiltration into the public sector you actually open the door for domestic manufacturing. Now it's about location to reach a consumer price point ie a factory on the US side of the Mexican border with Mexican day workers for labour.
WHAT!!! Thats insane. THIS IS NOT a discussion about who creates better drones. This is a discussion about US government agencies using Chinese Communist Party drones. It is a FACT that there is no such thing as a private business in China. All the data being collected by DJI drones used by our government agencies is going DIRECTLY to the Chinese government to be analyzed by AI for surveillance & intelligence gathering. This is a national security issue!!! NOT an issue of who makes a better consumer market product.
Why is DJI the world leader? Because DJI has transformed consumer drones from model aircraft and workshops into cost-effective flying cameras that everyone can enjoy, and has expanded into power, agriculture and other industries. The most important thing is that DJI has always been at the forefront of consumer drone industry technology and continues to push its own technological boundaries, not just cheap.
@@jasonhow8604 I was actually pointing out how the OP was clearly a marketer disguised as a user, which has nothing to do with what you're saying. You clearly need to sharpen your English; you misunderstood the meaning of my other comment as well.
@@VVayVVard Goininvovation is just trying to explain what has just happened (why DJI can become the dominant player in the game.) On the contrary you are denying what has just happened( remember ingore the export of chinses military drone and its assemble line) If you judge goingnovation as marketer, then what about you? The relic of the British colonial system? Or the lap puppy of the US propaganda system? If you don't have a google, just ask your car. I bet it knows more about drone than you do. And its English should be "shap" enough for you. Or you can kee your eyes closed to the real world, and make your perfect show of ignorance and arrogance while identifying the preference of us propaganda system about their lap puppy. Come on. Never let me down.
Two weeks ago, i started using the dji t40 in my plaintain farm in the Dominican Republic, it is amazing, easy to use, cuts tons of cost in products and labor ... and it looks futuristic. People from the town where my farm is located literally stopped by the road just to see the drone work, is like watching a ufo .. DJi is definitely ahead of the game
But, US is more concerned about the Russia Ukraine war and the Palestine Israel conflict. US is busy stirring up disputes around the world, busy bombing...
Tbh, it is only a facade from China - they give jobs that looks like they are jobs but they truly arent. It is like if you gave a homeless person a job of "street surveillance officer undercover"
Counting the numbers of the "Security Concerns": 1. DJI; 2. Huawei; 3. TikTok; 4. BYD; 5. Solar Panel; 6. HSR; 7. Shein and Temu; 8. Toaster; 9. Mask; 10. Toys. Should I continue?
The United States has no chance to surpass DJI. All of DJI's technology patents, including production parts, account for as much as 80% of the world's share. Drone patents account for more than 95% of the civilian market. The United States has nothing to do with DJI because Including drone chips are all made in China. 14-28 nanometers are enough for drones, not to mention that China has already broken through 7 nanometers.
The have already brought a bogus patent lawsuit against DJI.....and surprise surprise the American court ruled against DJI. They arrested Huawei's CFO on bogus charges and kept her imprisoned in Canada for a year. They will stop at nothing to take Chinese companies down.
Let's not forget that starting at the end of this year or the start of 2024 the first all-Chinese 28nm lithography machines should be delivered and start producing. That will allow China to make 28nm chips 100% made in China, with no dependency on any other country, meaning those will be completely sanctions-proof. And China is already working on a potential way to generate the extreme UV light needed for 2nm chips, using a different method than ASML does for its 3nm chip-making machines, also using 100% Chinese components. Also, it's good to keep in mind that China's 7nm chip has performance and thermal dissipation characteristics roughly halfway between Qualcomm's 5nm and 4nm chips. They might not be as good as the cutting edge western chips, but they are a lot better than western 7nm chips.
DJI has patents? Ok, so why doesn't the USA just steal the Chinese technology and violate the patents, like Chinese companies have done for the last 40 years?😂
Meh ya know why? Us company can’t compete with DJI in price, quantity and quality, thus they just make excuses just to shut down that competitor. While other countries move forward, US moves backward.
DJI is the market leader by far and produces the most sophisticated drones for peaceful use. DJI drones have been well-proven to be secure and are produced for peaceful use only. Some DJI drones have been repurposed for use in war by both sides of the Ukraine war. The USA is currently using "national security' as a catch-all rationale to limit the rise of successful Chinese companies. DJI is a perfect example: DJI is the market leader because it is an innovator that produces high quality products. If the USA cannot dominate markets it seems to take the position whomever is leading needs to be punched down; this was the case with Japan and Korea, and it is happening with China now. Pathetic. Believing US companies will have an edge on AI is a little ridiculous considering Chinese already lead in the use of AI for mass-market peaceful use. Can US companies own the government market simply because they are American? Probably. But the consumer market? Impossible, that train left the station a decade ago.
ALL Chinese businesses are part of the Chinese Communist Party. That is a FACT. Every major business has an office within their headquarters for a team of Chinese politicians so they can observe every meeting and move by the company. That is a fact discussed by many US venture capitalists who have done extensive business with China. All data collected by these Chinese companies are going directly to the Chinese government and used for surveillance and intelligence gathering. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PRIVATE COMPANY IN CHINA. Period. So all these drones flying around critical infrastructure here in America is being digested by Chinese AI surveillance. It’s a MASSIVELY bad idea to use Chinese Communist party drones for US government work. It doesn’t matter if local governments already spend money on DJI drones. GROUND THEM. And buy Skydio drones.
@@Trust_but_Verify That's true. It is because they are vassals. Vassals are obedient and are not free to decide what they want. The biggest problem to the US is that they cannot make China hand over their obedience. China does not want to subjugate the US at all. The US wants to subjugate China. The US cannot have a near competitor.
Yes correct. Those countries do not have a communist dictator government. I’m not saying one is better than another….but currently…China & America have a VERY adversarial stance on each other. @@Trust_but_Verify
I'll argue with the "less features". The most basic problem here always goes down to the cost. US can definitely develop superior drones, but the cost will be unjustifiable if they're going to target the consumer space.
@@iamwisdomsky meh.... even in Defense, which can be largest consumer. Drone need to be cheap enough because they are essentialy Expendable weapons. for example in the realm of Loitering munition. we have US build Switchblade, and Russian Lancet. Lancet cost half of switchblade - and China comparable drone D-60B is even cheaper For a Price of 1 Switchblade, Russia can get 2 and half Lancet, and China can get 4 D-60B Ukraine burn 10.000 Drone a month, if Drone warfare in future Drone that military need would be the one that dont have a lot "features" but the one that "Good enough quality but with superior Quantity" - which basicly play to China Forte
Just like they have superior hypersonics tech. Oh wait they don't. Us military already tried to create domestic drone to replace dji. Cost twice as much with HALF the capabilities. Chinese AI is no joke. They've not only caught up but overtaken USA in many areas including drone swarm and drone ai.
@@Cryosxify Unfortunately there's no sign that American companies will catch up, just like they've fallen behind in infrastructure, ship building and EVs. American industrial dominance is now a thing of the past. The Chinese run the show now
When it comes to electronics, any company that exits the consumer market by declaring they're "focusing on enterprise" is effectively already on the down slide. Case in point, both DJI, Apple and Tesla dominate the consumer market and are able to continuously improve their offerings for the enterprise market as well, because of continuous consumer side feedback and optimization. Any company saying otherwise is just lying to themselves.
Yes, people are always passionate about new products, new features, and new experiences, and they will constantly try new products. Enterprise users only focus on whether they can use a longer period of time to share financial costs, and whether it is advanced enough is not the first issue to consider.
What’s funny is that I saw a video where end users thought that the latest military-grade Skydio X2D was not as good as the consumer-grade DJI mavic 3T…
Thanks to the Chinese government for listening to the Americans. The export of more advanced drones to other countries is prohibited. Fire-fighting drones sold in China are equipped with military-grade fire control radar, infrared measurement aiming, and 40mm rocket launchers. Fire-extinguishing bombs can be launched at multiple targets at the same time, and the flight time and distance are very long. If a large amount of it is exported to Russia, the war situation in Ukraine will change. If exported to Iran or Hamas~~~😰😰@@grid-panda
Ha! You dare say China ISN'T "focusing on building war machines"?? China has consistently increased its defense budget over the years. Annual increments have been observed, reflecting the country's commitment to modernizing its military and enhancing its capabilities. In many years, the announced defense budget increases have been in the double digits percentage-wise. This signals a significant commitment to the modernization and expansion of the PLA.
Never gonna catch DJI. They're way too far ahead. They release high-quality drones and cinematic products relentlessly month over month. Someone would have to spend millions, if not billions and reverse engineer their products, then innovative from there.
It still holds value. Indeed most of the Chinese products from places like Wish, Shein and Temu Are of very low quality. Ofc there are Chinese priducts with higher quality but they are generally more expensive than even the Western products when they come here. Take for example their EVs. The quality is really good enough but the prices are even higher than EVs from VW or Tesla in Europe and N. America. For a long time the Chinese smartphone brands made very good quality phones but recently their pricing really matched the likes of Samsung and Apple. A fun story is that Google is actually considered a good option when it comes to pricing while the quality is top notch
@@ulikemyname6744 China can produce goods of any quality; it depends on the customers' needs. The perception that cheaper products are of lower quality may be because Western consumers have less disposable income than before, and we can only sell products that fit within your budget. Apps like Wish and Shein aren't even used by Chinese people themselves. Furthermore, the reason many high-quality Chinese products are expensive in the West is due to the supply chain decoupling initiated by the United States and the trade war, so if you want to discuss offering good value-for-money products to your naive politicians, go ahead.
@@edwardchen9920 The lowering of disposable income is throughout the world not just in the West. Yet that's not the reason. China just makes crappy products for less money to flood the market. Regardless of whether the Chinese uses the apps like Wish or Shein they buy the same products that these apps offer. The same crappy quality in high volumes. After all the average Chinese can't afford to buy more expensive products and it settles for the garbage that comes out of the Chinese factories. Especially in the recent years when the disposable income among the Chinese dropped significantly and thus the consumer spending remained stagnant. While good quality products can come out of China they are similarly priced or even more expensive than Western equivalents. This means realistically China no longer has an advantage when it comss to costs. I guess that's the reason why so many companies are relocating to Southeast Asia or even to the US where the investments in manufacturing grew over 2 times in 2021.
More like high quality Chinese goods approach Western prices because that's how much it costs for Western standard materials and quality controls. This was true before the trade war.
Made in Japan is not automatically associated with good quality back in 1950-60s too. Nowadays Chinese made is gaining acceptance for reliability, quality and attractive pricing
If China stops accepting the US PAPER dollars in exchange for their high quality products, then do you think US is still thriving? If the US regime and American people keep borrowing/printing PAPER dollar/spending, then do you think China will keep accepting those US PAPER dollars?
Strange how Americans don't see it that way as we started a trade war. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 😂 Things always go well for American enemies and china is the number 1
If DJI and Huawei's satellite communication system are combined, this will be the cheapest and most cost-effective battlefield weapon. Currently, there are 1,300 drone companies in Shenzhen, mainland China alone. China produces more than 7 million drones a year. Data from 2023 shows that domestic mobile phones produced a total of 507 million units in the first half of the year. Therefore, mainland China's industry can easily send 20,000 satellite-controlled disposable drones to the battlefield every day without making any adjustments. The kind of drone combat in Russia and Ukraine is like kindergarten combat.
@@themiddlekingdom9121// In addition to adroit, intelligent property theft, you think & innovate quite well. Your foundation strength is manufacturing.
Rumours are, in 2015, just before 3DR was about to release the Solo to compete with DJI Phantom 3, FBI raided 3DR and shut them down for a 2 month audit due to them exporting drones and drone parts abroad, because of course Washington would be deluded in thinking only America has the tech. In either case after 2 month silence everything on 3DR website had an export control code added, even a power adapter. I wouldn't say Solo could have competed with Phantom 3 either way, but being shut down and restructure your entire operations right before your major product launch certainly didn't help sales.
3DR made bad strategy decisions, their downfall is how capitalism should work. They didn't take DJI seriously when it started competing because they had a regressive and obsolete view that China was the same as it was in the 90s
@@velociraptor5962 China’s labor costs are not cheap. You are still living in the past. China’s real advantage is its supply chain system. DJI can find all the spare parts for manufacturing drones within a hundred kilometers of Shenzhen. China’s spare parts Parts supply chain system and transportation convenience are unique
As a drone builder, the answer is no. We can't make cheap consumer drone with US components because all of the components are made in China. US made components (if you can find them) are almost twice as expensive. A high end Chinese flight controller may go for 350 usd but the all US made part is 650 usd.
@@AgeraRS7 eh. Labor in China is actually more expensive than in Mexico or Vietnam for example. In many cases I believe it's the investment in infrastructure and knowledge keeping a lot of manufacturing in China. There is nothing keeping other labor markets from taking over a share of the market.
Parts can be made in Mexico. Mexico cannot develop its own factories mainly due to a lack of funding. The US has overlooked Mexico for decades because China has always been cheaper and easier due to the endless amounts of suppliers and manufacturers. In China you could probably easily find 1000 manufacturers of small electric motors, meanwhile in Mexico you might find one. Investments in Mexico will take longer to pay off but over the long run they will be worth the costs.
I have a Maverick 3 pro and mini 3 pro DJI. I only use them to take picture and videos of nature where I can’t get to by person. They are very good quality I must admit.
at least Apple had the galls to stand up to the FBI and not unlock a suspect's phone. any Android-based company would've immediately fold over like they have no spine.
US: “We need to decouple from China!” CHN: “Fine, we will stop selling our products to you.” US: “China is weaponing their products, it is pure evil!” CHN: “….”
just couple of years back, percisely before Trump administration, most of Chinese and Chinese businesses never thought that there would be a necessary need to develop their own high end chips to replace the ones that use US technology or create its own mobile operating system to replace Android system. from market prospective, there isn't a value for the approach. But today if you ask any Chinese people, almost everyone would say this is not only needed but it's kind of an urgent matter to secure Chinese supply chain by building up its technology to replace US ones. Before, everyone thought US would play by their own rules and orders, and WTO and many world organizations are supreme to govern things like the world trade even though they are not perfect. at least if any disbute, they know where to go. But today those rules are significantly weakenly by purpose. Chinese now seeing the US government are flexing its muscle and can bypass their own rules and orders in the name of US national security. almost any part of global supply chain can be interrupted under the name. if US national security is guaranteed by making others feel zero secure, our world is doomed to go to next war. I mean sooner or later if we have to go into this survive or death game.
"if US national security is guaranteed by making others feel zero secure, our world is doomed to go to next war. I mean sooner or later if we have to go into this survive or death game." - great quote
a few years prior to the 2020-2022 null years, the major automotive industries didn't make the big push for joint efforts to push the EV market like they are now, as most were still in their planning stages. Now we're seeing so many new brands and sub-brands of EVs that are collaborations between car manufacturers like BYD, Geely, GAC, collaborating with consumer electronics/digital service brands like Lenovo, Baidu, Tencent, Huawei or foreign car brands like Volvo, Renault. years of work are starting to show what they've accomplished. although for the moment, while i like all many of the new EVs like Aion, Zeeker, Lynk & Co, ... many of the burly SUVs look so similar that nothing really stands out... with the exception of Hongqi's E111, although TBH, i want that burly somebitch E115 to go to manufacturing.
Yea, it's a strategy that you can only play once. Trump is betting that China can never create the Chips Supply Chain and come crawling back. By then they've got the bargaining chip. On the flip side, if they indeed can do it themselves, or worse still, they can do it cheaper, then you'll get yourself a competitor. And it set a bad precedence. If they can break a promise on one issue, what's stopping them from doing so for all of their promises? China is not only incentivize but threatened to develop their own instead of sourcing from the US. And if they can do it to China, they can do it to Europe, other Asian Countries. I personally think this chicken game is dumb and is just inviting trouble.
So US is reverting back to being an isolationist. That's a shame. When China wanted to cooked up it's EV industry, it invited Tesla into the market for the "Catfish Effect", said to the local maker: "Here's the best EV makers in the world. You either streamline your operations. Compete or die!" Four years on and now Chinese EV makers are flooding the European market with cheap affordable product that established brands like VW and BMW struggle to compete with. Honestly, I love DJI but I still don't think they having a monopoly is a good thing. Open competition is what drive progress.
However, some countries have their own drone products, such as the United States, Japan, Germany, and France, who can also produce high-performance drone products. Yet, their production costs are significantly high. If DJI were to disappear entirely now, China would quickly generate another DJI, leveraging its cost advantage to swiftly dominate the global market. Perhaps then you would understand how meaningless such idle sanctions are.
Politicians.. have been, are and will always be more theoretical than practical. Reason is that most politician, have basically no technical background...
Because the amount of project management and disruption involved -- including physical upheaval of entire neighborhoods -- is often prohibitive to do at a reasonable cost. China also gets a lot of similar pushback from their subjects, the difference is the Chinese government is not shy about silencing protests and actively convincing the rest of the country that their projects are pushed through for the "greater good".
For Dji, What you saw is A single personal owned company. What you didn't know is the Chinese high tech and efficient supply chain which supporting the production of Tesla and I-phone as well, with the National backup for logistics, power supply and fair education system. All the silicon valley got now are some Indian Brahman high born brothers pleasing their superiors for green card. But Guangdong gets the high quality manpower from mountain province who willing to change their life.
DJI is leading also because china has adopted large scale commercial usage of drones in a way that the US would never compete. For instance industrial agriculture in china uses large numbers of drones for sowing and pest control. Logistics uses drones for transport much more extensively than the US, Public security and traffic management like it or not is also much more drone dependent in china. And then there are those massive drone light shows that china likes to put on. Quite frankly the US is downright primative when it comes to commerical adoption of drones.
@@fatdoi003 yeah, the joke 'female drone pilots' isn't a cynical jab at the military industrial complex in china. its literally an everyday profession.
You miss the point. AI component of small drones will seek out the nearest Chinese electronic component for power and send signals to devices with cellular technology such as mobile phones, transmitters, relay stations, cars, etc. Then a Chinese weather balloon will slowly float across USA and collect all signals to beam to satellites .
Dji competes for engineers. They pay for top talent, they hold several competitions throughout the year in various countries and offer jobs to the top guys.
I guarantee those state restrictions on Chinese drones came from lobbying by US manufacturers. It's not about security, it's about protectionism. Here in my home county, public records requests show a US drone manufacturer TOLD the county government what unique features they "needed" so they could avoid a competitive bid process.
There's no need to fear cuz China won't ban the drone exporting to the global market. It will cost a lot more to develop a new type of drone than buying Chinese ones.
The answer to the above question is no the US can not compete in Drones. And all of the "solutions" have been tried and have failed. Banning DJI means cutting off competition. But competition is why DJI is so strong, so much further ahead in technology, so much higher quality and so much less expensive. The DoD replicator program will be taken over by the US military industrial complex and they will build the equivalent of a $2,000 DJI drone for $200,000 but only if the Pentagon places an order for 1 million of them. If the Pentagon buys a smaller number the cost will go up. And 1/2 way through R/D the US defense contractors will jack the price up from $200K to $400K each. And when these cost over-runs become so expensive that the Pentagon finally cancels the program, congress will re-instate the program with a price increase.
Some Chinese made Bras also have a small strip of metal wire in it.. It might transmit data all the way back to Beijing. Imagine China having a database of bra sizes across the US. Might be a worrying security concern.
Get allies to boycott Chinese companies. Place tariffs on Chinese goods.Already worked with several Chinese industries. If you can't compete, ban them! Its the American way.
@@jetli740 Yes and No. The tariffs hurt the consumer. The consumer either buys lower quantities, shops elsewhere, or goes without. As a result, the Chinese company makes less sales. And that's what hurts them. That being said, although it may hurt them it will almost certainly NOT ruin them.
@@shanerooney7288 China is the largest consumer market in the world, isn't shy about countering tariffs with tariffs, and has a knack for carefully choosing which products to impose tariffs on in order to cause the greatest possible political damage on whoever pushed for the tariffs on Chinese products. Not to mention all the non-tariff ways China can screw up with a country's companies. You need to be very, *very* careful about getting into a commercial fight against China.
DJI is similar to Apple. It has the world's top supply chain and is made in China. Shenzhen itself is China's high-tech factory. In terms of technology and cost, no one can compete with China.
Consumer drones have been around for barely over a decade and this video starts with Chinese drone dominating the market for two decades, that's a sign you should ignore this piece of garbage.
It's funny that my company wanted to buy a product from an American company. But the product has all its data in imperial units. When we asked for metric units, the American company asked for extra cost for the changing the imperial into metric. So we quickly found Chinese suppliers with much lower price and provided with better solutions, and without the issue of imperial units of course.
If the USA drones are that good then why are they worried about anyone else . The fact is the Chinese makes better and more affordable drones and the US can not compete unless they sanction the Chinese made drones .
@@jackytang3683 salty again huh.? Lol. The usual 'copy' narrative. No one even comes close to many of the things DJi put out there. Do read the comments here. And look at Microsoft, Google, Apple etc... Are they also copying 'small developers?
@@jackytang3683if copy is just easy, and a monkey can do it, then there will be no market leader at all, no one or nothing can occupy a significant market share at anytime because its easy to just copy everyone.
In the meantime , Biden is offering to help India on the Spice Route Infrastructure projects ! Should we ask him to look into domestic Infrastructure improvements first ?
As a drone user, I have not found anything else on the drone market that can do what DJI does for the price. This isn't about China spying, this is about whiny US companies that want the competition gone.
If we were to follow the principle of the US, once China has succeeded in the most advanced chip designing and making, they would have to sanction the American chips completely. I can’t wait for that to happen as I am keen to see how the US will react to that? 😅😂
China can just stop exporting essential food supplies like Tomatoes or stop exporting Plastic items or lithium ion batteries and watch how the US will crumble
@@tluangasailo3663 wait till you realize huawei is now using a non-us 7nm chip. for context intel is still stuck in 10nm and very soon huawei might be able to reach 3nm just like apple silicon or 4nm by snapdragon. so I dont get what you mean that their is no sign of a chinese advanced chip 7nm is advanced as it gets and can definately work on a more advanced scale
In China, cheapest basic type DJI drone price is 210$. Advanced type from 600$ - 1050$(Air 3, most popular type) , Ultimate version 2450$(Mavic 3 Pro). I believe US can make better one, but the price will be insane.
Uh . No. DJI really isn't the highest quality or tech. Not even close. They are the cheapest in the bottom end of the higher market. Basically the budget drones of the higher market.
Hmm.. actually, the solution is really easy. Stop making enemies... Duh. Our only problem is the military industrial complex... this industry needs a lot of hate to prosper.
Military drones, especially FPV drones or loitering munitions, need to come down in price or it just doesn't make sense. For instance, why does the fragile and tiny Black Hornet drone cost $200,000 EACH? Yes they have to recoup the development costs but there is no way that it costs them near that much to build, even with the minituarisation and fancy electronics on board. As with all munitions and essential military technology, there needs to be government oversight as to how much profit they are allowed to make, especially if they receive government funding to establish themselves in the first place. There are already many drone makers in Europe and the US that just needs funding and economies of scale to be able to make drones close to China prices. More expensive labour costs can be offset by using greater automation but this of course requires more capital investment and that's where governments can step in if they treat drone manufacturing as a national security priority. Also, civilian drones are not shielded and extremely vulnerable to EMP attacks so more anti-drone defensive weapons need to be produced.
The simple answer is NO. America can not compete with Chinese-made commercial drones ever. Chinese drones have dominated the consumer drone industry for at least a decade. Year after year they continue to demonstrate real innovation all while keeping the cost to a bare minimum. Even with a ban, new DJI products will still make it into the US through other means. At NO point will American-made drones ever overtake Chinese-made drones in quality, innovation, and pricing. The supply chain, manufacturing, and a "drone industry" is completely lacking in the US in my opion.
I saw many people.worry about CCP. So tell me what's wrong with the CCP. If a government enables its people to eat a lot of meat, drive their own cars, and own a decent apartment with AC, I don't see that government as a terrible one. Plus, China has the largest population of people who travel internationally every year, including me, who travels tens of thousands of miles a year. So we know the world. I don't know how much you know about China. Have you ever been there? If not, I think you should take a look with your own eyes instead of just trusting what the Western media says.
The FAA has criminalized hobby drones. While you can study and take an expensive licensing test that has to be repeated to maintain currency with the law, that is a real market downer. Think of private pilots who need a log book endorsement to fly within 30 miles of LAX or similar class B airspace. With galloping regulations, how long before you will need a medical certificate in addition to a drone license for yourself and a separate license for your drone which must be registered like an airplane and have real time position reporting equipment operating. This is happening right now with Remote ADSB interfacing to your cell phone. It becomes illegal to fly in areas without cell phone coverage. Want to search for a missing child in a canyon? That's now illegal. It doesn't matter if you are a sheriff's department search and rescue unit, no operating Remote ADSB is a big fine and possible jail time. Why, so Amazon can deliver packages autonomously in our crowded urban airspace without interference. Lobbyists at work.
There needs to be a boom in U.S. industry for small electronic parts, as such the brushless motors and logic boards. With the baseline set then anyone can make a drone!
China has excellently planned and executed to buy, built and create supply chains, environment, industries and hundred other different factors to make its exports and imports as efficient as possible and spent billions and billions over the years but U.S wants to do it by national security, sanctions, restrictions, opening more military bases, exporting weapons, supporting wars, supporting colonial genociders and i am sure it will help alot in bring manufacturing back to U.S.
if USA company cannot compete or cannot make it, they will say "national security" to contain foreign competitor, you can name it, many many example, from 1980 Janpanese company until today......
America might be able to produce drones but at about 15x the cost of a DJI drone.
You forgot another 0, 150 maybe
with half of its quality or offerings
With minimal abilities
No, I think Anerican don't have brain enough to produce the drone. So many homeless and lazy people. Looting and shoplifting only way they can do
Is that before they start price gouging the item they make or after?
I bought my DJI Mavic Pro 8yrs ago, it has flown across Asia, Africa, Europe, flown in rain & strong winds & it still flies like its brand new.
This will instigate huge negative emotional unrest in USA. How can Yankees accept such positive declaration on China's products? Yankees would say they are copycat, stealing, threatening of USA technologies. USA is proud to be the first among all things. Otherwise, they should be sanctioned, heavily taxed and arrested.
Even my DJI Mini two are working like a magic. Just done shooting beautiful videos in Amalfi coast.
I can sense ads here :)
@IRegan DJI does not need advertising, it is as deep into everyone’s (professional) life as Google
@@IRegan I can feel your jealousy
Warning: national security concern!
When the United States can't compete with a better company, just arrest the founder and band it. 😂😂
*kidnap
That's what China does. They don't allow any foreigner tech into China. Why can't US do that? hello. It is a national security issue. You are just not informed enough to see it.
DJI: " we make drones for civilian, we dont want our products in military hands"
US companies:" lets make drones for war"
later... US army: What garbages did you made? The performance of military use is worse that civilian use, and thousand times more expensive? !
US: u so stupid on marketing, for civilian the price so cheap, but for war thats good business very lot of usd rich rich....
That's because US goverment pays so much profit for them to corrupt on.
Lockheed Martin just put a sticker over DJI and charges 100x more
Yeah, because China totally doesn't make military drones.
Ah, the ole "national security concerns" again.
Let me help Translate that: "We used to be market leading but we rested on our laurels while a Chinese company innovated and rose to dominate the market. Our American companies have tried to compete and have gotten their asses kicked, so they need help from Uncle Sam to try and cripple their Chinese competition".
exactly this.
You're 100% right but the fact remains that it is a national security threat. China could ban exports and catch the US with its pants down
Funny thing, once upon a time the US was the absolute leader in solar panels, both in research and in production of them. But the US abandoned them (likely due to pressure from the Oil companies), Europe tried its hand at them but with pitiful investments, and this opened the way for China to out-invest Europe more than 10 to 1 in solar panel production; now China has about 80% of the global solar panel market share (with about 40% of the solar panels made in the world getting installed inside China itself), and also controls at least 75% of the production of each and every component used in solar panels.
This would have happened with electric vehicles too if it wasn't for Tesla. I mean, China will likely win out in the end because Tesla doesn't seem to be interested in making cheap cars, and electric cars already turned China into the world's top exporter of EVs (despite over half of all EVs in the world being sold and used inside China), but without Tesla then China would just have steamrolled the rest of the world when it comes to EVs.
@@FabioCapela well,China provides over 90% of the components for Tesla
In the US, "national security concerns" means no longer being #1.
everytime a chinese company dominates a section, the US will just sanction it. (prime example is Huawei)
And DJI. And the sanctions did not prevent these companies from staying # 1 in the world. They however do increase the cost to US customers. This is an example of shooting yourself in the foot. The repeated use of this type of santion is an example of shooting yourself in the leg after shooting yourself in the foot.
@@mgronich948US has not much leg left for itself to shoot in near future😂
@@mgronich948 It didn't increase cost to US consumers, that would be a tariff, what the entity list actually did was cutting American companies ability to supply world's largest drone maker, effectively destroy any prospect of US ever building it's own supply chain and its own drones. i.e. a fatal combination of arrogance and ignorance.
US builds too many walls trying to sanction others until it traps them in a jail built by itself.
One example was they used to be able to buy the best products from all over the world at good prices, therefore many product reviews first coming from them. But nowadays their EV and electronics product reviews are so pathetic and limited as many brands not selling in US. I rather watch Europe, Asia & China reviews and so many comments complaining that they couldn't get those in the US.
If China wants to sell in the US, it should be forced to partner with US companies, along with forced technology transfer.
when you close your market from DJI, you close the competition. without competition, quality of product will be lower
China's not looking to compete they're looking to dominate and squeeze out competition.
By limiting their infiltration into the public sector you actually open the door for domestic manufacturing.
Now it's about location to reach a consumer price point ie a factory on the US side of the Mexican border with Mexican day workers for labour.
WHAT!!! Thats insane. THIS IS NOT a discussion about who creates better drones. This is a discussion about US government agencies using Chinese Communist Party drones. It is a FACT that there is no such thing as a private business in China. All the data being collected by DJI drones used by our government agencies is going DIRECTLY to the Chinese government to be analyzed by AI for surveillance & intelligence gathering. This is a national security issue!!! NOT an issue of who makes a better consumer market product.
US administration is doing everything by the book to ensure a swift downfall of the empire. Let's lend assistance in that journey.
US capitalism supporters only believe in free market when they are on top
and they're much lower to start with
Why is DJI the world leader? Because DJI has transformed consumer drones from model aircraft and workshops into cost-effective flying cameras that everyone can enjoy, and has expanded into power, agriculture and other industries.
The most important thing is that DJI has always been at the forefront of consumer drone industry technology and continues to push its own technological boundaries, not just cheap.
Thanks for using the comment section to market your products, I guess?
But seriously, come on, at least make it look natural.
@@VVayVVardThat's what exactly costumers vote with their cash. Don't fuss.
@@jasonhow8604 I was actually pointing out how the OP was clearly a marketer disguised as a user, which has nothing to do with what you're saying. You clearly need to sharpen your English; you misunderstood the meaning of my other comment as well.
@@VVayVVard What he said was factual so...
@@VVayVVard Goininvovation is just trying to explain what has just happened (why DJI can become the dominant player in the game.) On the contrary you are denying what has just happened( remember ingore the export of chinses military drone and its assemble line)
If you judge goingnovation as marketer, then what about you? The relic of the British colonial system? Or the lap puppy of the US propaganda system?
If you don't have a google, just ask your car. I bet it knows more about drone than you do. And its English should be "shap" enough for you.
Or you can kee your eyes closed to the real world, and make your perfect show of ignorance and arrogance while identifying the preference of us propaganda system about their lap puppy.
Come on. Never let me down.
Two weeks ago, i started using the dji t40 in my plaintain farm in the Dominican Republic, it is amazing, easy to use, cuts tons of cost in products and labor ... and it looks futuristic. People from the town where my farm is located literally stopped by the road just to see the drone work, is like watching a ufo .. DJi is definitely ahead of the game
Q clase mama ñema.
Dji is creating the game, that's one of the problemd
I' m afraid so. Future wars will rely heavily on drones. It already is in Ukraine.
Cool
I can fly around your DJI drone like it was standing still.
We should be more concern if US can compete with China's infrastructure, transportation and reducing the homeless population.
But, US is more concerned about the Russia Ukraine war and the Palestine Israel conflict. US is busy stirring up disputes around the world, busy bombing...
Yes
Well said, especially the last one!
Chinese infrastructure is trash literally. Some of the fire hydrants they use arent even connected to a water supply
Tbh, it is only a facade from China - they give jobs that looks like they are jobs but they truly arent. It is like if you gave a homeless person a job of "street surveillance officer undercover"
The US vilifying everything made in China or calling it liw quality is getting old.
That’s not new and it’s certainly not limited to just US/Americans saying it.
That's because the US is orchestrating china bashing amongst it's slave nations like uk France ,Germany and Japan.
What happen
@@maestoso47 than i should've rather just said the West
President Trump respects China. He just wanted America to offer better competition. Instead, all the other American politicians made sinophobia worse.
Counting the numbers of the "Security Concerns": 1. DJI; 2. Huawei; 3. TikTok; 4. BYD; 5. Solar Panel; 6. HSR; 7. Shein and Temu; 8. Toaster; 9. Mask; 10. Toys. Should I continue?
11. 美女
😂👍👍
F'n toasters
Ballons, hammers, screwdrivers, electric shavers, Chinese canned food .......
genshin
Bro, it must be sucks to live in the US where the main tone is all about fighting war with somebody💀
right… a nation of zombies obsessed with war 😩
Dude they love war and killing. Have you seen many of American RUclips channels, they rationalise their entire existence around war and killing.
Watching from Canada. Wow come on you guys really. Your self driving vehicles are more dangerous.
@@treynolds94cope
Reminds me of the forever wars in the book 1984
thank you china and thank you DJI. I had never thought I would be able to fly a drone. if the US can make one. we can't afford.
Nice username
The value of Confucius,humble SHARING, THINKING OF OTHERS, 🥺 but nobody/ few people understand or appreciate that ☯️☸️🛐
American paranoia is becoming the biggest threat to Americans.
The US gov't knows that's a load of bs. They just hope people are dumb enough to believe the lie. But more and more people are seeing through it now.
The United States has no chance to surpass DJI. All of DJI's technology patents, including production parts, account for as much as 80% of the world's share. Drone patents account for more than 95% of the civilian market. The United States has nothing to do with DJI because Including drone chips are all made in China. 14-28 nanometers are enough for drones, not to mention that China has already broken through 7 nanometers.
For comparison: in 2006 when the F35 first flew, 65nm was considered cutting edge.
The have already brought a bogus patent lawsuit against DJI.....and surprise surprise the American court ruled against DJI. They arrested Huawei's CFO on bogus charges and kept her imprisoned in Canada for a year. They will stop at nothing to take Chinese companies down.
Let's not forget that starting at the end of this year or the start of 2024 the first all-Chinese 28nm lithography machines should be delivered and start producing. That will allow China to make 28nm chips 100% made in China, with no dependency on any other country, meaning those will be completely sanctions-proof. And China is already working on a potential way to generate the extreme UV light needed for 2nm chips, using a different method than ASML does for its 3nm chip-making machines, also using 100% Chinese components.
Also, it's good to keep in mind that China's 7nm chip has performance and thermal dissipation characteristics roughly halfway between Qualcomm's 5nm and 4nm chips. They might not be as good as the cutting edge western chips, but they are a lot better than western 7nm chips.
DJI has patents? Ok, so why doesn't the USA just steal the Chinese technology and violate the patents, like Chinese companies have done for the last 40 years?😂
dji is cheap,the same drone,dji cheaper 50%
The only thing that store data on DJI is your own SD card😂😂😂. I don't understand why people have "security concerns" over it.
Meh ya know why? Us company can’t compete with DJI in price, quantity and quality, thus they just make excuses just to shut down that competitor. While other countries move forward, US moves backward.
US innovation is done and finished, with idiotic people at tye helm.
A typical Sinophobia, distorting China can’t win the competition and only speed up the decline.
Because the tiny antenna on the drone will send live video feed across the ocean to Beijing 😂
They are not people, they are legislators who don't even know how WiFi works.
DJI is the market leader by far and produces the most sophisticated drones for peaceful use. DJI drones have been well-proven to be secure and are produced for peaceful use only. Some DJI drones have been repurposed for use in war by both sides of the Ukraine war. The USA is currently using "national security' as a catch-all rationale to limit the rise of successful Chinese companies. DJI is a perfect example: DJI is the market leader because it is an innovator that produces high quality products. If the USA cannot dominate markets it seems to take the position whomever is leading needs to be punched down; this was the case with Japan and Korea, and it is happening with China now. Pathetic. Believing US companies will have an edge on AI is a little ridiculous considering Chinese already lead in the use of AI for mass-market peaceful use. Can US companies own the government market simply because they are American? Probably. But the consumer market? Impossible, that train left the station a decade ago.
ALL Chinese businesses are part of the Chinese Communist Party. That is a FACT. Every major business has an office within their headquarters for a team of Chinese politicians so they can observe every meeting and move by the company. That is a fact discussed by many US venture capitalists who have done extensive business with China. All data collected by these Chinese companies are going directly to the Chinese government and used for surveillance and intelligence gathering. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PRIVATE COMPANY IN CHINA. Period. So all these drones flying around critical infrastructure here in America is being digested by Chinese AI surveillance.
It’s a MASSIVELY bad idea to use Chinese Communist party drones for US government work.
It doesn’t matter if local governments already spend money on DJI drones. GROUND THEM. And buy Skydio drones.
DJI is affiliated with the Chinese government. Don't be surprised when it is discovered that one of their "mandatory updates' contains spyware.
If DJI is a Taiwanese or Japanese company there wouldn't been a problem.
@@Trust_but_Verify That's true. It is because they are vassals. Vassals are obedient and are not free to decide what they want. The biggest problem to the US is that they cannot make China hand over their obedience. China does not want to subjugate the US at all. The US wants to subjugate China. The US cannot have a near competitor.
Yes correct. Those countries do not have a communist dictator government. I’m not saying one is better than another….but currently…China & America have a VERY adversarial stance on each other.
@@Trust_but_Verify
Yes, US can make drones, but they will cost more and may have less features.
I'll argue with the "less features".
The most basic problem here always goes down to the cost. US can definitely develop superior drones, but the cost will be unjustifiable if they're going to target the consumer space.
Easy.
Replace MADE IN CHINA.
With MADE IN MAGA🦅🇺🇲.
@@iamwisdomsky meh.... even in Defense, which can be largest consumer. Drone need to be cheap enough because they are essentialy Expendable weapons.
for example in the realm of Loitering munition.
we have US build Switchblade, and Russian Lancet. Lancet cost half of switchblade - and China comparable drone D-60B is even cheaper
For a Price of 1 Switchblade, Russia can get 2 and half Lancet, and China can get 4 D-60B
Ukraine burn 10.000 Drone a month, if Drone warfare in future
Drone that military need would be the one that dont have a lot "features" but the one that "Good enough quality but with superior Quantity" - which basicly play to China Forte
The U.S. Military Can Spend Thousands of Dollars on a Coffee Pot, and You Should Know the Problems
Just like they have superior hypersonics tech. Oh wait they don't.
Us military already tried to create domestic drone to replace dji. Cost twice as much with HALF the capabilities.
Chinese AI is no joke. They've not only caught up but overtaken USA in many areas including drone swarm and drone ai.
DJI is the leader because they know their customers and the only ones who disrupt them in their field are they themselves. PERIOD!
DJI is the leader because of their great technology a great product brings customers.
DJI is the industry standard.
💯
for now
@@Cryosxify Unfortunately there's no sign that American companies will catch up, just like they've fallen behind in infrastructure, ship building and EVs. American industrial dominance is now a thing of the past. The Chinese run the show now
@@kiprotichsalat2460 Reading about how America ""forgot"" how to make shaped ship hulls more than an inch thich made my inner industrialist weep.
@@Cryosxifyonce the Chinese in the lead, you are done, chips are the next
i got my first drone in 2014. and this year i'm getting a mini. thats almost 10 years. thats DJI Quality right there
Mini is best .
When it comes to electronics, any company that exits the consumer market by declaring they're "focusing on enterprise" is effectively already on the down slide. Case in point, both DJI, Apple and Tesla dominate the consumer market and are able to continuously improve their offerings for the enterprise market as well, because of continuous consumer side feedback and optimization. Any company saying otherwise is just lying to themselves.
Yes, people are always passionate about new products, new features, and new experiences, and they will constantly try new products. Enterprise users only focus on whether they can use a longer period of time to share financial costs, and whether it is advanced enough is not the first issue to consider.
What’s funny is that I saw a video where end users thought that the latest military-grade Skydio X2D was not as good as the consumer-grade DJI mavic 3T…
Thanks to the Chinese government for listening to the Americans. The export of more advanced drones to other countries is prohibited. Fire-fighting drones sold in China are equipped with military-grade fire control radar, infrared measurement aiming, and 40mm rocket launchers. Fire-extinguishing bombs can be launched at multiple targets at the same time, and the flight time and distance are very long. If a large amount of it is exported to Russia, the war situation in Ukraine will change. If exported to Iran or Hamas~~~😰😰@@grid-panda
Yeah tell that to IBM or Cisco
@@grid-pandaAnd they are way more expensive than dji
I’ve had a few drones but honestly the DJI is simply a pleasure to operate
This is what happens when your country focuses on building things that can benefit society as oppose to focusing on building war machines
But China buildings tons of weapons to exports
@@tluangasailo3663 The US has been making so much money from weapon exports in its history. Everyone wants to make money.
Ha! You dare say China ISN'T "focusing on building war machines"?? China has consistently increased its defense budget over the years. Annual increments have been observed, reflecting the country's commitment to modernizing its military and enhancing its capabilities. In many years, the announced defense budget increases have been in the double digits percentage-wise. This signals a significant commitment to the modernization and expansion of the PLA.
Never gonna catch DJI. They're way too far ahead. They release high-quality drones and cinematic products relentlessly month over month. Someone would have to spend millions, if not billions and reverse engineer their products, then innovative from there.
Kodak dominated the film market. IBM dominated the computer market. Sony dominated the video market...........
@@awesomedallastours China produces all of the hundreds of components that go into a drone, the US produces NONE.
@@awesomedallastours That was before other countries economies developed into the modern age.
@@awesomedallastours Those in front will be behind, sooner or later, that's how the universe works.
pay Apple to do it and it'll be done, also make it in Mexico
I remember a time when "Made in China" was used as a derogatory term.
I guess not anymore.
It still holds value. Indeed most of the Chinese products from places like Wish, Shein and Temu Are of very low quality. Ofc there are Chinese priducts with higher quality but they are generally more expensive than even the Western products when they come here. Take for example their EVs. The quality is really good enough but the prices are even higher than EVs from VW or Tesla in Europe and N. America. For a long time the Chinese smartphone brands made very good quality phones but recently their pricing really matched the likes of Samsung and Apple. A fun story is that Google is actually considered a good option when it comes to pricing while the quality is top notch
@@ulikemyname6744 China can produce goods of any quality; it depends on the customers' needs. The perception that cheaper products are of lower quality may be because Western consumers have less disposable income than before, and we can only sell products that fit within your budget. Apps like Wish and Shein aren't even used by Chinese people themselves. Furthermore, the reason many high-quality Chinese products are expensive in the West is due to the supply chain decoupling initiated by the United States and the trade war, so if you want to discuss offering good value-for-money products to your naive politicians, go ahead.
@@edwardchen9920 The lowering of disposable income is throughout the world not just in the West. Yet that's not the reason. China just makes crappy products for less money to flood the market.
Regardless of whether the Chinese uses the apps like Wish or Shein they buy the same products that these apps offer. The same crappy quality in high volumes. After all the average Chinese can't afford to buy more expensive products and it settles for the garbage that comes out of the Chinese factories. Especially in the recent years when the disposable income among the Chinese dropped significantly and thus the consumer spending remained stagnant.
While good quality products can come out of China they are similarly priced or even more expensive than Western equivalents. This means realistically China no longer has an advantage when it comss to costs. I guess that's the reason why so many companies are relocating to Southeast Asia or even to the US where the investments in manufacturing grew over 2 times in 2021.
More like high quality Chinese goods approach Western prices because that's how much it costs for Western standard materials and quality controls. This was true before the trade war.
Made in Japan is not automatically associated with good quality back in 1950-60s too. Nowadays Chinese made is gaining acceptance for reliability, quality and attractive pricing
If China stops accepting the US PAPER dollars in exchange for their high quality products, then do you think US is still thriving?
If the US regime and American people keep borrowing/printing PAPER dollar/spending, then do you think China will keep accepting those US PAPER dollars?
If US stops Buying Chinese products do you think China will Thrive or COLAPSE.
Strange how Americans don't see it that way as we started a trade war. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 😂
Things always go well for American enemies and china is the number 1
when America can not compete we lash out at chinese companies and accusing them of spying. We Americans do not want to compete.
If DJI and Huawei's satellite communication system are combined, this will be the cheapest and most cost-effective battlefield weapon. Currently, there are 1,300 drone companies in Shenzhen, mainland China alone. China produces more than 7 million drones a year. Data from 2023 shows that domestic mobile phones produced a total of 507 million units in the first half of the year. Therefore, mainland China's industry can easily send 20,000 satellite-controlled disposable drones to the battlefield every day without making any adjustments. The kind of drone combat in Russia and Ukraine is like kindergarten combat.
战忽局：你确定不是来捣乱的吗？
@@XingZheWuKong无人机是为农业而生！切勿它用！
@@XingZheWuKong 他可能是對的，美國人認為中國人無法創新。
Meat riding China. Quality over quantity
@@themiddlekingdom9121//
In addition to adroit, intelligent property theft, you think & innovate quite well. Your foundation strength is manufacturing.
I used skydio drones and they are garbage! Their skydio 1 and 2 are 100 years behind dji!
We did have the US made drones from 3DR, but they just couldn't compete with DJI.
Because the U S doesn't have all the components and the people to build drones affordably.
@@themiddlekingdom9121 And, like Australia, the cost of labor is high.
Rumours are, in 2015, just before 3DR was about to release the Solo to compete with DJI Phantom 3, FBI raided 3DR and shut them down for a 2 month audit due to them exporting drones and drone parts abroad, because of course Washington would be deluded in thinking only America has the tech. In either case after 2 month silence everything on 3DR website had an export control code added, even a power adapter.
I wouldn't say Solo could have competed with Phantom 3 either way, but being shut down and restructure your entire operations right before your major product launch certainly didn't help sales.
3DR made bad strategy decisions, their downfall is how capitalism should work. They didn't take DJI seriously when it started competing because they had a regressive and obsolete view that China was the same as it was in the 90s
@@velociraptor5962 China’s labor costs are not cheap. You are still living in the past. China’s real advantage is its supply chain system. DJI can find all the spare parts for manufacturing drones within a hundred kilometers of Shenzhen. China’s spare parts Parts supply chain system and transportation convenience are unique
As a drone builder, the answer is no. We can't make cheap consumer drone with US components because all of the components are made in China. US made components (if you can find them) are almost twice as expensive. A high end Chinese flight controller may go for 350 usd but the all US made part is 650 usd.
The downside when you have strong currency😂
@@AgeraRS7 eh. Labor in China is actually more expensive than in Mexico or Vietnam for example. In many cases I believe it's the investment in infrastructure and knowledge keeping a lot of manufacturing in China. There is nothing keeping other labor markets from taking over a share of the market.
Parts can be made in Mexico. Mexico cannot develop its own factories mainly due to a lack of funding.
The US has overlooked Mexico for decades because China has always been cheaper and easier due to the endless amounts of suppliers and manufacturers.
In China you could probably easily find 1000 manufacturers of small electric motors, meanwhile in Mexico you might find one.
Investments in Mexico will take longer to pay off but over the long run they will be worth the costs.
@@felixf4378 资本永远是短视的，所以哪怕它们知道怎样会对未来的国家有好处，仍然会选择最有利于当下利益的选择，哪怕不利于国家的长久发展
How many Americans does it take to change a light bulb?
A. More guns.
I just bought a DJI mini drone pro 3 and cost about $700 and I love it.
Just yesterday, my DJI mini3 pro crashed into a building
I have a Maverick 3 pro and mini 3 pro DJI. I only use them to take picture and videos of nature where I can’t get to by person. They are very good quality I must admit.
Best
If you are worried about the security of DJI, it is better to worry about the security of iPhone
at least Apple had the galls to stand up to the FBI and not unlock a suspect's phone. any Android-based company would've immediately fold over like they have no spine.
Thats a stunt story, Nice PR effect,
In reality, Russian Solider use iPhone, the whole mission and base gets leaked and bombed into debris@@BenjiSun
@@BenjiSun Help the FBI unlock iPhones: Israeli company Cellebrite Find out more
So far US drones cannot compete with DJI drones. In top of that China kept innovating and improving while US needs to figure out how to manufacture
US: “We need to decouple from China!”
CHN: “Fine, we will stop selling our products to you.”
US: “China is weaponing their products, it is pure evil!”
CHN: “….”
Weaponize …
You mean everything in china owned by the Chinese government!
just couple of years back, percisely before Trump administration, most of Chinese and Chinese businesses never thought that there would be a necessary need to develop their own high end chips to replace the ones that use US technology or create its own mobile operating system to replace Android system. from market prospective, there isn't a value for the approach. But today if you ask any Chinese people, almost everyone would say this is not only needed but it's kind of an urgent matter to secure Chinese supply chain by building up its technology to replace US ones. Before, everyone thought US would play by their own rules and orders, and WTO and many world organizations are supreme to govern things like the world trade even though they are not perfect. at least if any disbute, they know where to go. But today those rules are significantly weakenly by purpose. Chinese now seeing the US government are flexing its muscle and can bypass their own rules and orders in the name of US national security. almost any part of global supply chain can be interrupted under the name.
if US national security is guaranteed by making others feel zero secure, our world is doomed to go to next war. I mean sooner or later if we have to go into this survive or death game.
"if US national security is guaranteed by making others feel zero secure, our world is doomed to go to next war. I mean sooner or later if we have to go into this survive or death game." - great quote
a few years prior to the 2020-2022 null years, the major automotive industries didn't make the big push for joint efforts to push the EV market like they are now, as most were still in their planning stages. Now we're seeing so many new brands and sub-brands of EVs that are collaborations between car manufacturers like BYD, Geely, GAC, collaborating with consumer electronics/digital service brands like Lenovo, Baidu, Tencent, Huawei or foreign car brands like Volvo, Renault. years of work are starting to show what they've accomplished. although for the moment, while i like all many of the new EVs like Aion, Zeeker, Lynk & Co, ... many of the burly SUVs look so similar that nothing really stands out... with the exception of Hongqi's E111, although TBH, i want that burly somebitch E115 to go to manufacturing.
感谢川建国同志 😅
Yea, it's a strategy that you can only play once. Trump is betting that China can never create the Chips Supply Chain and come crawling back. By then they've got the bargaining chip. On the flip side, if they indeed can do it themselves, or worse still, they can do it cheaper, then you'll get yourself a competitor. And it set a bad precedence. If they can break a promise on one issue, what's stopping them from doing so for all of their promises? China is not only incentivize but threatened to develop their own instead of sourcing from the US. And if they can do it to China, they can do it to Europe, other Asian Countries. I personally think this chicken game is dumb and is just inviting trouble.
The so called "US National Security"is totally a garbage.Anything can be put in through the White House's mouth.
DJI has 70% of the market?
USA hasn't got a hope of competing with China.
By the way , the most share of the rest of 30% market are also occupied by other Chinese drone brands😂
Stop warmongering and close 750+ foreign military bases is a start. Invest in your own country and stop launching wars
So US is reverting back to being an isolationist. That's a shame.
When China wanted to cooked up it's EV industry, it invited Tesla into the market for the "Catfish Effect", said to the local maker: "Here's the best EV makers in the world. You either streamline your operations. Compete or die!"
Four years on and now Chinese EV makers are flooding the European market with cheap affordable product that established brands like VW and BMW struggle to compete with.
Honestly, I love DJI but I still don't think they having a monopoly is a good thing. Open competition is what drive progress.
However, some countries have their own drone products, such as the United States, Japan, Germany, and France, who can also produce high-performance drone products. Yet, their production costs are significantly high. If DJI were to disappear entirely now, China would quickly generate another DJI, leveraging its cost advantage to swiftly dominate the global market. Perhaps then you would understand how meaningless such idle sanctions are.
"National Security" is always a good excuse to stop foreign competition.
Open up a business in China and see how that goes for you.
@@robertedmond6596 There're tens of thousands of American companies running in China, I don't have to try it myself.
The United States could develop its own drones, but they would likely be 15 times more expensive than DJI drones.
Is just about jealousy, TikTok is bad, dji is bad, huawei is bad, xiaomi is bad, haval car is bad, but everything from US is good and Saint.
Politicians love talking about domestic production but rarely have a practical plan in place to actually execute it
毕竟嘴巴很廉价，就像这个媒体一样用言语攻击一个国家一个企业。他们关于中国的视频用到太多滤镜，如果可以，我愿意提供更真实的中国视频信息。本媒体的虚假视频太过多
Their plan is to ban everything made in other countries and get back to stone age 🤣😂
Politicians.. have been, are and will always be more theoretical than practical. Reason is that most politician, have basically no technical background...
Because the amount of project management and disruption involved -- including physical upheaval of entire neighborhoods -- is often prohibitive to do at a reasonable cost. China also gets a lot of similar pushback from their subjects, the difference is the Chinese government is not shy about silencing protests and actively convincing the rest of the country that their projects are pushed through for the "greater good".
American politicians were mostly lawyers, meanwhile Chinese politicians were engineers...
For Dji, What you saw is A single personal owned company. What you didn't know is the Chinese high tech and efficient supply chain which supporting the production of Tesla and I-phone as well, with the National backup for logistics, power supply and fair education system. All the silicon valley got now are some Indian Brahman high born brothers pleasing their superiors for green card. But Guangdong gets the high quality manpower from mountain province who willing to change their life.
I hope one day Chinese products can be enjoyed by people because of their origin, not despite of it.
I hope one day China will be free of the CCP. Then your hope may become real.
DJI is leading also because china has adopted large scale commercial usage of drones in a way that the US would never compete. For instance industrial agriculture in china uses large numbers of drones for sowing and pest control. Logistics uses drones for transport much more extensively than the US, Public security and traffic management like it or not is also much more drone dependent in china. And then there are those massive drone light shows that china likes to put on.
Quite frankly the US is downright primative when it comes to commerical adoption of drones.
watching those farmer auntie flying those large drones over her fields spraying chemicals...... so bloody awesome
@@fatdoi003 yeah, the joke 'female drone pilots' isn't a cynical jab at the military industrial complex in china. its literally an everyday profession.
drones are good for watching babies get kidnapped in china while local police wave to kidnappers wishing them well
But we need to create more jobs. Automation kills jobs.
@@zhxiaol no. we need to work shorter hours
It's amazing how a small drone powered by a tiny battery can beam information all the way to Beijing.
Almost like your small phone with small battery. Truly magic!
@@Gunit867899 without any antennas, SIM cards, etc too! DJI truly more advanced.
You miss the point. AI component of small drones will seek out the nearest Chinese electronic component for power and send signals to devices with cellular technology such as mobile phones, transmitters, relay stations, cars, etc. Then a Chinese weather balloon will slowly float across USA and collect all signals to beam to satellites .
@@Jamie-nt3eh that's amazing how China has such high tech, futuristic technology, and they can mass-produce these things at such a cheap cost!
US gov admitted chinese weather ballon is a farce. Just google it jesus u hillbilly, no wonder we are winning omg
@@Jamie-nt3eh
Dji competes for engineers. They pay for top talent, they hold several competitions throughout the year in various countries and offer jobs to the top guys.
USA: LET'S MAKE A PEN FOR USE IN LOW GRAVITY SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
RUSSIA: LET'S USE PENCIL
China : good . Both will be made by me
I guarantee those state restrictions on Chinese drones came from lobbying by US manufacturers. It's not about security, it's about protectionism. Here in my home county, public records requests show a US drone manufacturer TOLD the county government what unique features they "needed" so they could avoid a competitive bid process.
There's no need to fear cuz China won't ban the drone exporting to the global market. It will cost a lot more to develop a new type of drone than buying Chinese ones.
Short answer is, no😂
Long answer.
Hahahaha, oh God no.
The answer to the above question is no the US can not compete in Drones. And all of the "solutions" have been tried and have failed. Banning DJI means cutting off competition. But competition is why DJI is so strong, so much further ahead in technology, so much higher quality and so much less expensive. The DoD replicator program will be taken over by the US military industrial complex and they will build the equivalent of a $2,000 DJI drone for $200,000 but only if the Pentagon places an order for 1 million of them. If the Pentagon buys a smaller number the cost will go up. And 1/2 way through R/D the US defense contractors will jack the price up from $200K to $400K each. And when these cost over-runs become so expensive that the Pentagon finally cancels the program, congress will re-instate the program with a price increase.
With no quality
🤣🤣
DJI has middle east, south america and africa markets to explore..... just doing all those government contracts will keep them rich for a long time
@@fatdoi003 poor countries buy poor trash drones
@@user-hc3em9pz7z at least they can buy.... the west can't even afford to heat their homes this winter....
Some Chinese made Bras also have a small strip of metal wire in it.. It might transmit data all the way back to Beijing. Imagine China having a database of bra sizes across the US. Might be a worrying security concern.
yes. A worrying issue indeed. So is your legal system based onmood? I thought, I felt, I heard？
@@喜欢发呆-r8y lol obviously you don't understand sarcasm.
Haha ha ha hahaha 😂
They will quickly learn one thing that the Chinese could never beat Americans, the bra size.
@@kampayod yes,i love USA woman,they are bigger
DJI is hard to beat for it's price and reliability.
If they could they would not be using dirty tactics like sanctioning and banning Chinese products.
Even if US produced a drone of the same quality it would be 10 times more expensive
DJI created drone for consumer market, they were the one who create transmission tech.
Get allies to boycott Chinese companies. Place tariffs on Chinese goods.Already worked with several Chinese industries.
If you can't compete, ban them! Its the American way.
tariffs do you know who actually it hurts? it you not china. you paid higher cost.
@@jetli740
Yes and No.
The tariffs hurt the consumer. The consumer either buys lower quantities, shops elsewhere, or goes without.
As a result, the Chinese company makes less sales. And that's what hurts them.
That being said, although it may hurt them it will almost certainly NOT ruin them.
@@shanerooney7288 China is the largest consumer market in the world, isn't shy about countering tariffs with tariffs, and has a knack for carefully choosing which products to impose tariffs on in order to cause the greatest possible political damage on whoever pushed for the tariffs on Chinese products. Not to mention all the non-tariff ways China can screw up with a country's companies. You need to be very, *very* careful about getting into a commercial fight against China.
If you can't compete, steal! It's the China way.
85% of the world market speaks for itself.
Imagine the military drone made by China! DJI make very good drones.
I thought American said all china products is trash?😂
Drones are rubbish. I'm not a drone user. Because drones are not useful tools and produce something useful for me.
the US can use national security as an excuse to ban DJI drones
还可以请几个议员直播砸大疆无人机，就像当年砸日本电器一样😢
Then get back to stone age
China already institutes bans on Tesla cars, and those were never used in combat.
The US is getting away with it because these companies never dare to challenge them.
Or ban any Chinese products really
DJI is similar to Apple. It has the world's top supply chain and is made in China. Shenzhen itself is China's high-tech factory. In terms of technology and cost, no one can compete with China.
Apple diversifying supply chains, and most of the key components aren't supply by China
China loved watching how Tesla operates. Too bad U.S. doesn’t know how China DJI works.
Tesla makes a different kind of "drone"
Wrong, Tesla operation is led by a Chinese person.
Prove it . Waiting
Consumer drones have been around for barely over a decade and this video starts with Chinese drone dominating the market for two decades, that's a sign you should ignore this piece of garbage.
It's funny that my company wanted to buy a product from an American company. But the product has all its data in imperial units. When we asked for metric units, the American company asked for extra cost for the changing the imperial into metric.
So we quickly found Chinese suppliers with much lower price and provided with better solutions, and without the issue of imperial units of course.
If the product is not allow customers buy it or it too expensive, they will make their own.
The King of Spy
United States of America
Reduce the load
If the USA drones are that good then why are they worried about anyone else . The fact is the Chinese makes better and more affordable drones and the US can not compete unless they sanction the Chinese made drones .
So we did too, our country banned Facebook google, RUclips for we can’t complete with those sites too , we can’t blame one and ignored the other side
I wrecked my thousand dollar dji fpv. Damn near cried. sent it in to dji They sent me a new one. A great company.
To compete with DJI, which has a near-monopoly market and is still innovating, well, I think that's a good idea🤨
I found reading the viewer comments more educational and uplifting than watching this video.
US: "If you cant compete with your competitor, demonize it and sanction it!"
I wish to see DJi make a flying car. There are some In China already being tested but I think DJi would be better than them.
DJI is not the only Drone technology developer, the fact is that DJI copied many technologies and innovations from small businesses developer
@@jackytang3683 salty again huh.? Lol. The usual 'copy' narrative. No one even comes close to many of the things DJi put out there. Do read the comments here. And look at Microsoft, Google, Apple etc... Are they also copying 'small developers?
@@jackytang3683 everyone in any business is copying each other, dont be so hypocritical here
@@jackytang3683如果大疆抄出了好产品，那美国企业抄都抄不会，又蠢又菜
@@jackytang3683if copy is just easy, and a monkey can do it, then there will be no market leader at all, no one or nothing can occupy a significant market share at anytime because its easy to just copy everyone.
The answer is no - I just saved you about 10 minutes.
Can us just focuses on improving instead of comparing and competing?
Expect to pay 5x-10x more for American made versions with about the same quality.
same quality you must be joking. More like lower quality and less features with 10x price
In the meantime , Biden is offering to help India on the Spice Route Infrastructure projects !
Should we ask him to look into domestic Infrastructure improvements first ?
did you actually check the spice route end up, the port own by china😂😂😂
As a drone user, I have not found anything else on the drone market that can do what DJI does for the price. This isn't about China spying, this is about whiny US companies that want the competition gone.
The only drone I bought was DJI and I would never change him out
If we were to follow the principle of the US, once China has succeeded in the most advanced chip designing and making, they would have to sanction the American chips completely. I can’t wait for that to happen as I am keen to see how the US will react to that? 😅😂
China can just stop exporting essential food supplies like Tomatoes or stop exporting Plastic items or lithium ion batteries and watch how the US will crumble
There is no sign that China is able to design most advanced chip
@@tluangasailo3663 wait till you realize huawei is now using a non-us 7nm chip. for context intel is still stuck in 10nm and very soon huawei might be able to reach 3nm just like apple silicon or 4nm by snapdragon. so I dont get what you mean that their is no sign of a chinese advanced chip 7nm is advanced as it gets and can definately work on a more advanced scale
@@ray0010 it still gonna take very long time for them to catching up with apple silicon. maybe next year apple gonna release 2nm or even smaller.
@@jackdarrow3011 bro do you even know what you are talking about, if they can produce 7nm it means they as well are independent from US silicon valley
United States, "the Tonya Harding" of the world.
Skydio just gave up on the US consumer market as they can only count on the government contracts. They cannot compete with DJI.
In China, cheapest basic type DJI drone price is 210$. Advanced type from 600$ - 1050$(Air 3, most popular type) , Ultimate version 2450$(Mavic 3 Pro). I believe US can make better one, but the price will be insane.
Hey surprise surprise huh, China makes affordable, high quality, and high tech products
Skydio is 2nd to DJI in terms of quality & technology....
yeaH SECOND
Which means AT LEAST 3 times smaller
Uh . No. DJI really isn't the highest quality or tech. Not even close. They are the cheapest in the bottom end of the higher market. Basically the budget drones of the higher market.
Hmm.. actually, the solution is really easy. Stop making enemies... Duh. Our only problem is the military industrial complex... this industry needs a lot of hate to prosper.
Military drones, especially FPV drones or loitering munitions, need to come down in price or it just doesn't make sense. For instance, why does the fragile and tiny Black Hornet drone cost $200,000 EACH? Yes they have to recoup the development costs but there is no way that it costs them near that much to build, even with the minituarisation and fancy electronics on board. As with all munitions and essential military technology, there needs to be government oversight as to how much profit they are allowed to make, especially if they receive government funding to establish themselves in the first place. There are already many drone makers in Europe and the US that just needs funding and economies of scale to be able to make drones close to China prices. More expensive labour costs can be offset by using greater automation but this of course requires more capital investment and that's where governments can step in if they treat drone manufacturing as a national security priority.
Also, civilian drones are not shielded and extremely vulnerable to EMP attacks so more anti-drone defensive weapons need to be produced.
Right, it's over priced. Additional militarized drones would need to be withstand standard jamming and location of the operator.
The simple answer is NO. America can not compete with Chinese-made commercial drones ever. Chinese drones have dominated the consumer drone industry for at least a decade. Year after year they continue to demonstrate real innovation all while keeping the cost to a bare minimum. Even with a ban, new DJI products will still make it into the US through other means. At NO point will American-made drones ever overtake Chinese-made drones in quality, innovation, and pricing. The supply chain, manufacturing, and a "drone industry" is completely lacking in the US in my opion.
I saw many people.worry about CCP. So tell me what's wrong with the CCP. If a government enables its people to eat a lot of meat, drive their own cars, and own a decent apartment with AC, I don't see that government as a terrible one. Plus, China has the largest population of people who travel internationally every year, including me, who travels tens of thousands of miles a year. So we know the world. I don't know how much you know about China. Have you ever been there? If not, I think you should take a look with your own eyes instead of just trusting what the Western media says.
The FAA has criminalized hobby drones. While you can study and take an expensive licensing test that has to be repeated to maintain currency with the law, that is a real market downer. Think of private pilots who need a log book endorsement to fly within 30 miles of LAX or similar class B airspace. With galloping regulations, how long before you will need a medical certificate in addition to a drone license for yourself and a separate license for your drone which must be registered like an airplane and have real time position reporting equipment operating. This is happening right now with Remote ADSB interfacing to your cell phone. It becomes illegal to fly in areas without cell phone coverage. Want to search for a missing child in a canyon? That's now illegal. It doesn't matter if you are a sheriff's department search and rescue unit, no operating Remote ADSB is a big fine and possible jail time. Why, so Amazon can deliver packages autonomously in our crowded urban airspace without interference. Lobbyists at work.
Gotta make everything complicated to the point where you better off taken your business elsewhere.
Emotions won't help overtake DJI.....DJI innovates good quality
There needs to be a boom in U.S. industry for small electronic parts, as such the brushless motors and logic boards. With the baseline set then anyone can make a drone!
then load up web page and find more powerful part at 1/4 of the cost. uhm boom became bust
It's the software that matters.
China has excellently planned and executed to buy, built and create supply chains, environment, industries and hundred other different factors to make its exports and imports as efficient as possible and spent billions and billions over the years but U.S wants to do it by national security, sanctions, restrictions, opening more military bases, exporting weapons, supporting wars, supporting colonial genociders and i am sure it will help alot in bring manufacturing back to U.S.
if USA company cannot compete or cannot make it, they will say "national security" to contain foreign competitor, you can name it, many many example, from 1980 Janpanese company until today......
national security this, national security that, I'm glad I live in Australia where I can enjoy DJI or BYD
But you ignored China did the same to the US for national security reasons
@@kenyup7936 China did that after US did and only for government employees which is fair Not like US has reputation for spying on foreign governments
@@kenyup7936 Everything comes first and then later, The US does it first, then China counterattacks.🙂