More Pre-Compost Info!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Hello!
It’s time for me to make more pre-compost 🤩. So let’s answer some more questions and share ideas that work to make this process successful 💕
Here is the link to the Northern Thai Garden Guy RUclips channel. He’s the one I found that inspired me and got me thinking about and working on making great worm pre-compost bedding:
@NorthernThaiGardenGuy
Here’s the link (non affiliated) to the garden gloves I call Wolverine gloves 🤣:
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I also sell red wiggler worms and cocoons on my website:
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Thank you!
Yours in the dirt,
Jayne
Jayne you have become the Pre-Composting master! What an excellent overview and demo! Thank you again for the shoutout! 😊
@@NorthernThaiGardenGuy Hello! I’m happy to give you and Tee all the credit you deserve for setting me on this path 😍. The sharing of this kind of information is one of the best parts of internet 🤩. I hope all is well with you! 🪱🪱
Jayne, wanted to tell you thanks for all the great info. I am working to get better, I bought 100 red wigglers on June 10th. Today I was working on new bedding as you had shown and I actually counted my worms and I cant believe I now have 379 worms. Yee haw I will now turn my focus to making good bedding. Thanks Again Curry
@@curry3185 Hi Curry! Congratulations on your expanding worm clew! Excellent news! If you do right by them they’ll reward you greatly.
Bedding, great bedding, is fundamental to work wrangling success. If you can get some pre-compost going you’ll be glad you did.
I’m so happy to be a part of your success. I look forward to future updates from you 😍🤩🪱
@@RockinWorms Heading down to get more card board and manure, gotta get it going for the winter. I did your non pre-compost bedding in this one next one will be better. Thanks Curry
@@curry3185 Keep us posted! 🪱😎
Hi Jayne, You really are a sport, working in this heat 🥵 🔥 I'm ready to move everything inside.
Take care
❤Peggy❤
@@peggyhelblingsgardenwhatyo7920 it’s hot for sure 🥵. I’d prefer to not be doing this but my worms need it! I hope to make several totes in the next week and then ride it out for the rest of the summer 🤞. Get my pain over with quickly 🤣🪱
You're a trooper working in those temperatures with hot pre-compost, Jayne!
~ Sandra
It’s hot for sure! But I really don’t have a choice. I’m getting low and need to get new batches started. With the ambient heat being high it also keeps the pre-compost cooking longer. So I need more lead time to get it cooled so I can safely use it in my worm bins. 😎🪱
Mines been sat outside for couple of weeks and yesterday I noticed it’s kicking out some heat. Haven’t touched it or checked the temperature. But will when my body allows as atm it’s not happy with our heat spike to 26-28c and last week we were at 13c!!!! It was like autumn last week
My coffee was like that…. But now I’ve used it all up, have nothing left as mum etc stopped getting it as she said there was no point if I don’t use it! Lol
Now I have
@@cherylhowker1792 It’s time to ask Milum to start collecting it again 💕. I’m low as I too stopped collecting for awhile so I could work thru the pile. I’m there now. I had to go out yesterday and did stop by 2 Starbucks and got a good haul 😎. 🪱
Thanks for all your tips Jayne. What is your option on the advantage of grinding all the vegies and just putting them whole?
@@johnwood1099 Hi John! I will put food scraps into my worm bins in a variety of different conditions. Frozen, raw, cooked, puréed, etc. The more the cell walls are broken down prior to adding the food into the worm bin, the quicker the worms and biota will be able to digest it. The faster they eat it, the faster they make castings! A long term food that is processed in some form or another before being fed to worms will become moderately faster food simply because the cell walls have been broken. 😎.
There can be nutritional differences in the food prepped one way vs another but probably not enough to negatively affect the worms 💕.
Do note that I cook (using my instant pot) almost all of my food scraps in order to eliminate insects and their eggs getting into my bins. Double prizes of eliminating mites and pit worms plus making food easier for my worm to eat 👍🤩🪱
@@RockinWorms Thanks for that info. My bin has stayed at or above 126f , it just started to go down and I was wanting to to know is how long before I reheat it up again?
@@johnwood1099 Ots personal preference, how quickly you want the pre-compost to use, how ‘fine’ you want it to be, etc. If I’m going for finer pre-compost - great for breeder bins in particular - I wait until it cools down to the 105F range. Then I mix thoroughly and pump it back into a heat cycle again.
Remember that you can always take some pre-compost out of the tote and put it into a smaller container (the more spread out the better) to cool it down faster for quicker use of your pushed and need some asap 👍🤩🪱
Mines been sat outside for couple of weeks and yesterday I noticed it’s kicking out some heat. Haven’t touched it or checked the temperature. But will when my body allows as atm it’s not happy with our heat spike to 26-28c and last week we were at 13c!!!! It was like autumn last week
@@cherylhowker1792 Hey Cheryl! Pre-compost can be somewhat of a set it and forget until you need it process which is awesome!
The heat is kicking everyone’s butt 😳🥵😡. Stay healthy first, then work on the worms when you can. Use long term foods to lessen the work load. 🪱🪱
@@RockinWorms long term?
Atm I’m using up scraps from the freezer
Have some sweet potatoe scraps - I think it’s them lol and I have apples falling from the tree and I can blend them up and use them. Any good?
@@cherylhowker1792 Absolutely! They are excellent longer term foods for the worms. Long term food simply means it takes longer to breakdown, by biota working on it, or takes longer to ‘fall apart’ into small pieces that the worms can get into their mouths. Foods high in water content (lettuce, melons, etc) are fast foods, as a comparison. Frozen food scraps will also be faster than non frozen foods as the freezing process breaks cell walls, hastening breakdown. Ok? 🪱
@@RockinWorms yep I get it
I will just blend/chop the apples up and put them in as they are.
And put them in with bins with some newspaper that was on top of the precompost. As part of it is bit broken down on top.
Still cardboard tho.
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Would leaves be a good substitute for shredded cardboard? I have piles of shredded leaves, but it is difficult and time consuming for me to acquire and shred cardboard. I realize worms love eating cardboard, so any downsides to using leaves would be appreciated. thanks.
@@jeffmeyers3837 Hi Jeff! How have you been? 😊. I’m still loving your ‘the more you worm, the more you learn’ saying 😍
Leaves are a great resource. You can add leaves right into your bin* (a warning given below!) if you want to skip the pre-composting part 😎. If the leaves are dry and crinkly then they’ll act as a carbon on your mix. If they are green and bendy then they count as nitrogen like the coffee grounds. I have not used leaves (or grass) in making my own pre-compost so can’t comment from personal experience. BUT several commenters have said they’ve used leaves and it’s worked fine! If you’re using a mix of leaf types you won’t get the same uniform result within the same time frame as you would using shredded cardboard. That’s not a bad thing at all - just something to be aware of.
Now for the warning - jumping worms are showing up in more and more states. They are not worms you want! 😡. Anything that touches the ground - like fallen leaves - could be a habitat for the jumping worms 😳. You can google to see if jumping worms have been reported in your area. If they have, you can take steps to still use leaves safely but raking them up or storing leaves on the ground prior to using directly into a worm bin may not be the best idea any longer 😩. You can run the leaves thru the pre-compost heat cycle and kill the worms and their eggs
IF your pre-compost gets hot enough.
If you choose to use leaves as a pre-compost ingredient I hope you’ll post back on your results and thoughts! 😎👍🪱
I just wanted to say I have been developing castings from worms but using the worm factory 360 for a few yrs. But recently I had lost most of my worms and still dont know why. I had been feeding them a worm chow very similar to the one you show on one of your vids. At first I was thinking maybe it was the dry feed that caused the problem but after seeing your vid apparently its not. Anyway I wanted to perchance upgrade to a slightly larger faster system. I have started one of your pre-composting bins the exact same way as you show. I already had a long temp probe from my outdoors composting piles so will use it.. Doing it this way Im not real sure I will know when my precompost will be ready for the worms.
@@yes350yes Hi! Welcome! It’s an unfortunate fact that many times we simply don’t know what went wrong. Some worm wranglers have reported that worm chow usage can cause issues in their bins. Heating up or even protein poisoning 😳😩. With the many factors that each play a small or large part, it’s hard to figure out exactly what went wrong. It’s always best to go slow when trying new things and ramp up over time. When an issue pops up where there hasn’t been one before it’s a little easier to identify the culprit. 😊
I’ve been doing my bins the way you see for a long time. I’ve focused in on what works for me, my worms and the bin size and contents. You’re going to have to take it slow and find the tweaks that work for your situation. I wish it was a one size fits all situations but it’s simply not that. 😊
As for when the pre-compost is ready to use I have a new video going up Tuesday that may help you! In the meantime get your pre-compost mix made and let it heat up. You’ll be ready for next steps, or close, when the next video drops 😍😎🪱
Thanks so much for watching!!🪱
Hi Jayne im curious about the liquid added to pre compost. If I dont have vegetable or fruit juice available do you think koolaid or even sugar water could be a good source to get the microbes working. Just trying to think of cheap alternatives that might or might not work
@@mrwingdinga Hi! Yes, sugar water from any source (sugar, molasses, corn syrup, etc - not honey as it a natural antibiotic) will feed the biota and get them ramped up! Best to go modest in the beginning to see how the mix reacts. You can always add more as you go! 👍 Great question! 🤩🪱
In the process of removing the burrito and stiring up the precompost noticing some tiny white worms burrowing into the compost, is this normal or a concern?
@@yes350yes Normal. You’ve probably got some pot worms. Not a problem at all unless there’s tons of them. Pot worms show up in worm bins all the time. If they bug you and you don’t want them you can always run another heat cycle - that’ll reduce their numbers by alot. Frankly I wouldn’t bother doing that and I’d just deal with them once in a worm bin and see how many there really are.
Cool compost is a fantastic substrate for every bug out there. The burrito top keeps most away but not every one. I’ve had to chase some bugs away too 🙄😡.
Nice work
@@princeindoorandoutdoorplan3003 Thanks! Are you making pre-compost? 🪱🪱
@@RockinWorms i m vermicomposting also using breed red wigglers eesnia fetida and perionyx excavatus (Indian Blue )
@@princeindoorandoutdoorplan3003 Excellent! Are you doing pre-compost for your bedding? 🪱
@@RockinWorms i m using Inocolum( The bacteria for making compost )and cocopeat also for composting my kitchen scraps, etc, no i m not doing any precomposting i dont have the facilities for tht, i just doing a small type of composting in my home but not large
@@princeindoorandoutdoorplan3003 Any composting is good compositing! Perhaps in the future you can give the table top method a try as it doesn’t take up much space 😊🪱
Cameraman likes cows 😉😉🐄🐮~ Sandra
@@NanasWorms I saw that! I didn’t want to be on camera too much as I was literally dripping sweat off my nose 🤣. I guess he picked Rebel to be the guest star 🤣🤩
So I decided to do a pre compost experiment. I had a bucket that I had set up to precompost with shreds and vegie scraps. Little did I realize, but the black soldier flies laid eggs in there. When I saw the larvae I was upset, but in doing research, I found out they are a great thing! They also ate up all the food! (but not the cardboard). So I spent a day picking out all the larvae, fed them to the chickens, and ended up with a bucket of pretty soppy larvae mess. Then I had an idea! I got a bin, and mixed the soppy mess with cardboard shreds, probably 40/60, covered it and will wait and see if it heats up. Since theres no food in there, it shouldnt attract the black soldier flies. So if it heats up, I would think it would make some great worm pre compost. Ill let you know if it heats up.
@@katiem9644 You’re so lucky to have the BSF! Sandra (from Nana’s Worms) doesn’t care for them 😊. I’m trying to get a small colony going but I’m not having much success yet 😡. Based on what you and Nusoil have said I’m going to add pre-compost to my attractant trays!
I’m really eager to see how your experiment turns out. 🪱🪱
@@RockinWorms You'll get them. They just showed up here when I ended up with a yummy bin for them. I didnt do anything to attract them.
Absolutely!! I love this method during fall and winter but , after that I get over ran by BSF and I’m pretty sure it’s the coffee that attracts them.
Either way it’s an awesome bedding for worms especially breeding!!🪱🪱 love your vids Jane👍🏻👍🏻
@@katiem9644 From your lips to Mother Nature’s ears! 🤣🤩🪱
@@nusoilwormfarm7980 Thanks! Your praise means a lot to me! I appreciate your support as well as your time in watching my content 💕🪱