Jeff's Rekluse Clutch Setup
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2022
- Jeff details his Rekluse Auto Clutch Setup for 2017 - 2023 KTM, Husqvarna, and GasGas 2-Stroke Models and 2017 - 2023 KTM 450/500 and Husqvarna 450/501 Enduro 4-Stroke Models.
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I bought a radius cx from you a while ago for my '18 300. My dealer installed it and it's worked perfect. I am now forever spoiled and have no desire to ride a bike again without it. Granted I'm 68 years old but it's been the best thing I've added to my bike...and I've added a lot of stuff. Those technical sections that sneak up on you no longer worry me, leave it in second and just grip and crawl through. Love it.
Happy new year Jeff. Excellent video. I have arthritis in my fingers and without a rekluse I would not be able to do hard enduro. At nearly 58 years old hard endure and given me my life back and got me fit. Thank you too rekluse.
Hey Jeff, thanks for the great video. I have ran Rekluses on my bikes for years now. I appreciate that you provided an update for the new TBI motors. Rekluse makes amazing products, provides excellent customer service and continues to progress with the improvements of the bike engines, hence the new 4.0. The Rekluse gives more control on the technical sections, no stalling and amazing traction control. Cheers,
Daniel/WA state
Thanks for the tip on the spring setup. I'll swap mine around at the next oil change.
I’ve had 3 Rekluse’s now. One in my Yamaha’s WR400 & WR450 and now the KTM 350EXC-F. I got the 1st one when I broke a few fingers on the clutch hand. Never had an issue with the Rekluses and it makes riding the rock gardens so easy. Just pick a line and go for it, no fear of stalling. I also have mine setup so they don’t freewheel going downhill. I’m an old man (66) now and I can understand why the younger guys don’t want to give them a try. To each his own.
Probably the best mod I've ever done to my 300 was installing a Rekluse, it made it so much easier to ride, I can usually ride everything a gear higher, I think you hit it right on the head when you said that people that don't like them didn't have them setup right, you still have full use of the clutch but with added benefits, and traction is greatly improved, what's not to like, I even fabricated my own left hand rear brake which helps in so many situations with bike control.
I have ridden them before and I can see advantages of it. One of the things I don’t like is having to blip the throttle on downhills to get the engine breaking engaged. Although I will say that I wouldn’t want to ride Moab without one!
I want one just to inhibit stalling. on my TC250 the smallest bit of back brake on bumps locks up the back wheel and it stalls. Its sometimes hard to feel that back wheel locking up when braking.
Jeff on my 500 I bought 6 of the silver springs from you and I like the set up. How would it feel with your set up of the 3 silver and 3 blue springs?
What spring set up are you guys running for the 250f’s? More specifically a 2022 Kx250x? Thanks
My Radius CX setup on the 2023 was the same spring setup. 4 or 5 rides on it.
Does your motor stall with sudden hard rear brake with this spring set up?
I'm just learning about Rekluse Clutch. I have one hand and I ride with a manual clutch. A friend would like to ride again and Rekluse may be a better fit for her.
Can you start the bike to see that pulse you r talking about. Moreover how to adjust it please.
Jeff, great vid but I notice you're frame at the head tube is different than my 2023 300xc. Wierd right?
I'll see if I can add a pic.
I tried a radius cx in my 300 and hated it. Probably wasn’t set up right. Just left it how it was from Rekluse. Used it for one ride and took it out.
Totally agree about a Rekluse being essential on any new bike. But the LHRB is the icing on the cake. I run a Clake SLR . Best LHRB you can get with excellent hydraulics.
Have you tried the Rekluse torqdrive manual clutch pack?
@Jeff Slavens
My 17 300 xc-w had a Rekluse EXP in it when I bought it. I have enjoyed it but would like to try without it. Do you know what parts I’d need to convert back to stack manual clutch? I assume a few fraction disks and steel plates and the stock pressure plate. Is there anything else I am missing? Does the Rekluse slave cylinder need replacement?
Thanks for the set up tips as well.
Please call the store and our team can get you everything you need. 719-475-2624.
I have always set mine up to engage immediately and pulse at idle.
Each bike can take a few peculiar different strategies in order to get that perfect Rekluse performance.
I've owned many different bikes and brands and not one is identical in Rekluse setup in order to reach the desired engagement.
For instance, the Beta 4-strokes do not have an idle adjustment, so you cannot increase idle in order to fine tune and get the pulse.
I'm running the Radius X on my current YZ250FX and it takes a few little tricks besides running the lighter springs to get it precisely dialed as it's a small bore 4-stroke and any excess in slip can rob power delivery and you can't afford to lose power in certain situations here in the PNW when riding a 250F.
One obvious trick is increasing the idle just enough to keep the bike pulsing and the engagement right at idle. The YZ250FX has idle adjustment.
Then, running a more aggressive map which keeps the power delivery strong enough to take away any excess slip from the Rekluse.
I have mine absolutely dialed in now on the YZ250FX and anyone riding my bike would not be able to tell it has a Rekluse.
They're an effective tool if setup properly.
What spring combo are you running in your 250f?
@@dirtrider7777 3 steel and 3 medium
With these light spring set ups , does the motor stall if you suddenly lock the back tire up?
@@aaronbailey8611 no I haven’t experienced any of that. I have this setup now on both of my Kx250f’s. I just ride single track and it works great!
@@aaronbailey8611 That depends on the bike and idle adjustment.
On my YZ250FX, with certain maps and lower idle settings, it can do just that on a few occasions over a ride.
But, with idle turned up a bit, it goes away.
Great video Jeff, my girlfriend has a 22 TE250i with the radius cx, dealer set it up from new with 6 silver springs. It works but I feel it could be better, I have tuned it as much as possible without changing the springs. Would you recommend going with 6 steal springs then? Thanks for your time.
Yes
I have tried reculze clutch it's not the same as manual after 50 + years using manual. I won't lie there's a difference in between after years using manual and reculze. That's my experience. I totally understand the ones not as experienced with manual VS reculze. 52 years using manual I prefer manual.
Nice Video, I’ve been using Rekluse system for many yrs and like it also makes life easier for me. Two questions - have a 2018 FE350 set up when I bought it, what springs? I have a 2005 CRF450X that is my adventure bike, has ten yr old Rekluse that I’m going to replace with a new CX, which springs or who’s a Honda guy to ask. Thanks
Hello Mike:
Please go to this page slavensracing.com/shop/mule-clutch-tuning-kit-rekluse-3-0-slavens/ and click on the fitment tab. It has spring suggestions listed for KTM brands.
For your Honda, install the low engagement springs listed in the installation manual. If it disengages too quickly, install the next softer springs.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
JS
What springs would you recommend for a 22 Husqvarna FX350 im thinking of putting a recluse on it had one on my 16 te300 loved it I did exactly what you were saying you liked them to do
I have a 2021 350 XC-F with a CX Rekluse & I run the lightest springs. It's as close to a manual setup as I can get. Got the Rekluse to help reduce the engine braking & reduce rider fatigue, it smooths everything out but still has great bite down low when needed. It can be setup based on rider ability & terrain type. If you're a C level rider on technical terrain you want a softer engagement (at a higher rpm). It'll save you energy, prevent stalling & give you more time to make decisions on line choice. If you're an A level rider you'll like it to engage like a normal clutch (at a lower rpm) & will be happier with less engine braking.
Hi Jeff, you need to change your website clutch tuning kit order page for the 24 TBI bikes, right now the site says "six steel springs" for the 24 TBI bikes, but in your video you say (in the second portion of the video where you correct yourself) "three steel and thee silver" springs. Just FYI if the three silver and three steel springs combo is correct... I'll update this posting if something changes once I tune the auto clutch on one of my bikes. BTW, your team has been amazing to work with and your site is normally spot on. Great stuff from Slavens Racing!
Our website fitment is correct. If your 250/300 TBI bike is an XC, TX, or EX we reccomend running 3 steel and 3 silver. If your 250/300 TBI is an XCW, TE, or EC we reccomend running 6 steel. Thank you for your kind words and business.
@@slaverace1 Thank you, Jeff! Another reason why I only do business with Slavens Racing. You and your team is always so helpful and super quick with information. Okay, I'll change the springs to six steel. Great support and I stand corrected that your site has the right information. Thanks again Jeff!
My 2020 come standard with 3 gold extra heavy duty and 3 blue heavy duty springs. It was a pig and wouldn’t engage and disengage like it should. I guess it comes down to how you ride, I find the 500 I ride in taller gear so therefore engine rpm's are lower hence why the Rekluse wasn't working as intended. When I was in a lower gear doing same speeds it was OK. But that's not why I bought a 500. Changed to 6 red medium springs and love it now. I am 55 yrs young and find the Rekluse helps me ride longer
Are Those the clutch pack spring and not the ones Slavens showed? I have been trying to figure out how to get stronger springs so I don't burn up the clutch so quick on my big bike.
@@scp8412 EXP springs as in video. There is 6 different spring stiffness by memory, the heaviest being for V Twin Cruisers and the like.
@@robbo6799 ah I see. Thanks.
Hey Jeff, which Rekluse clutch do you run in your bike? Are there any advantages or disadvantages between the Core EXP 3.0, RadiusX, and the RadiusCX?
Radius CX on the 23 300 XC, EXP 3.0 on the 23 300 XCW, EXP 3.0 on the 20 500 XCFW. Please call the store and our team can walk you through the differences. 719-475-2624.
Hey Jeff. I’m curious about that pulse. I’ve owned 2 bikes with a rekluse. Radius and core exp now I’ve got the radius cx. I’ve always had a good engagement and free play. Now with my new one i have a pulse/surge I’ve never had. I understand the springs and idle etc. can you show a video of the pulse/surge so I can see if it’s the same thing I’m experiencing?
Hello James:
Sorry I have a loooong list of videos to do and no plans for a pulse video. Just adjust so it works for well for you and your trail conditions.
@@slaverace1 all good. I talked to rekluse as well and I’ve just magically set mine up perfect and better than before with the pulse that’s new to me. Thank you for replying!!!
Jeff, do you have the rekluse adjustable slave cylinder guard on it and if so does the 2022 one fit? I saw that your website lists the same part number for both, thanks!
All Rekluse clutches come with an adjustable slave cylinder, so yes.
I was referring to the slave cylinder guard, thanks!
What spring would you recommend on 2021 sherco 300 se? Bought 3 steel and 3 silver from you. Im running a Radius CX. Can’t see it on your fitment tab. Thank you.
Hello:
Sorry, we don't have a Sherco test bike so we don't have suggested spring settings on our site. I would start with the springs you already purchased and change from there if needed. You are welcome to email me if you need further assistance. jeff@slavensracing.com
Hi, I have a question. I have just done an oil change after installing a rekluse cx a few rides ago. The oil is now a different colour to what it used to be. Is that normal? Thanks
Hello:
If the oil color has changed that is an indicator that the clutch is slipping. Re-visit the free-play gain setting. If it is within the 3-5mm spec, dig deeper.
I set em up tight and low as well, used to get the heavy balls for the old ones to. I like the product and the guys at Reklus but I don't run them on my own bikes .
I'm debating on buying a rekluse but I'd like your opinion on why you don't use one. Thanks
@@barnescycle well I gear my bike nice and low for the trails I ride , I ride a 2 stroke that luggs nice and low and doesn't stall with the low gears so I don't need a lot of clutch and I enjoy the hole experience of ridding and like to use the clutch its part of mastering the sport in my opinion. Also I like full lock up at low rpm for the really technical stuff .
Go watch the irc tire guys videos on clutch control and all his videos are good .
@Adam Batchelder awesome response , that is alot of money for a part to make up for a lack of bike control. I totally agree but it is tempting 😆
@@barnescycle ya at risk of sounding like a dick, I would say spend the money on some other bike set up and maybe a class and a guy will become a better rider rather than trying to buy the skills right .I like to remind guys that many of our first bikes like honda 50s , 70s ,90 s where factory auto clutches and I would like to think I've learned the next step that s a manual clutch.
Although if I had to race a kick start only 450mx bike in a technical off road race tomorrow I would be tempted.
What springs would you use on a 300 xcw 22 tpi with tbi relocation block?
Check out our fitment tab on this page >>>> slavensracing.com/shop/mule-clutch-tuning-kit-rekluse-3-0-slavens/
My kit only had the 3 steel vice 6. 2021 EC300; how will it work with 3 steel and 3 silver?
It will enables you to fine tune your Rekluse to engage at a low RPM during acceleration and to stay engaged down to a very low RPM when going down hills. slavensracing.com/shop/mule-clutch-tuning-kit-rekluse-3-0-slavens/
Will a 2022 KTM 250/300 rekluse fit a 23 250/300 TBI? What parts will interchange?
No, unfortuantely it will not. We have the 2023 clutches in stock. slavensracing.com/shop/rekluse-radius-cx-clutch-ktm/
@@slaverace1 I actually talked to Rekluse yesterday... The Radius CX clutch is exactly the same. The 23 250/300 TBI bikes will need a different slave cylinder and clutch cover, those parts are different from the TPI bikes.
Is there any reason why an auto clutch wouldn't be a good idea on a 125?
I have one on my ktm 200. Loved it.
would 3 blue and 3 silver be about equal to 6 red (red are in between blue and silver I think)?
Josh:
You could give it a try and see how it works. Here is a list from soft to hard.
SOFT
steel
silver
red
blue
gold
green
Hello just subscibed! My rekluse exp 3.0 for a ktm 300 2020 is really hard to push can you suggest me how to get lighter? Someone also suggest me to put a 9mm pump
Sounds like your clutch pack has an incorrect dimension and the Bellville clutch spring is flexing concave and/or you have the ring in the #3 position.
Rekluse EXP springs from Soft->Stiff: Silver-Red-Blue-Gold. I have not heard of the steel ones you mentioned in the video. Maybe they are softer than Silver?
Silver is extra soft spring.
I have the 20 TX300i, what is best auto clutch for me ?
The Radius CX. slavensracing.com/shop/rekluse-radius-cx-clutch-for-husqvarna/
Turn 1 extra click past one full turn, ride a bit then do again, the most I ever is without it pulling bike too much was two clicks.
Would you say this product is good for mx i have a ktm sxf 350 2023? Thanks
Hello Nate:
Surprisingly, we have quite a few customers that use the Rekluse CX for motocross. slavensracing.com/shop/rekluse-radiuscx-4-0-clutch-for-ktm/
@slaverace1 ok thanks, what springs do you recommend with the 4.0?
Thanks
Looked like you had a screw loose when you were showing the external adjustment?
I do have a screw loose, I ride dirt bikes.
@@slaverace1 lol..me too!
@@slaverace1 honestly though, it was at the 7:07 mark ;)
I'm with JB: Springs are Silver, Red, Blue, Gold, correct? What do you mean "steel" springs? They are all steel (composition). Thanks for all your expertise, Jeff and Alec!
Steel is what they call the colour. There is steel and silver springs. Silver is light, steel is extra light. 0:12
They make a steel "colored" spring.
Hi,
I now have the 4.0 with 3 steel and 3 silver. And the bike wants to walk away from me? Ktm sxf 350 2023.
Thanks
Change to 6 silver.
@slaverace1 Ok thanks 👌🏾👌🏾
@slaverace1 Quick question? If it's trying to walk away from me in 1st gear but ok in 2nd gear. Will this be causing excessive wear if i leave it like this to keep it engaged for as long as possible? Thanks 🙂
@@nathanadams5582
Hello Nate:
Sounds like you need to try a different spring combo. It needs to release better than your description for tight conditions. If you're switch-backing down a mountain you don't want it pushing you through the turns.
I’d like to try n have a handbrake but they are expensive af
Hello:
What isn't expensive these days? If you want to improve your bike, show me the money.
Are you still able to bump start the bike? With no kick start its nice to have a backup option.
Yes, on a bike with a hydraulic clutch and Rekluse slave cylinder
ruclips.net/video/-byt5RiwIPs/видео.html
You adjust the slave cylinder via the adjustment screw so it’s like a manual clutch, then after you start bike readjust slave cylinder to original position
Perfect. Thanks.
What is your setup for 2013
Hello:
Sorry, I don't have a set-up to recommend. I don't remember what I ran back then.
Oh yeah I forgot: 2018 300 XCW.
The screw next to your slavecylinder is loose.
I buttoned up the job after I finished the video.
I don’t like it because it’s dangerous. If you die out on a hill you will roll backwards. Yea you can get left hand brakes but it’s not always that easy to grab
That's the whole point, you don't die on a hill with Recluse clutch in the first place!
True but... If it's set up correctly it won't stall on a hill! I have them on 2018 300 XCW, 2015 500 EXCand had them on a 2008 250 XCW, and a 2006 200 XCW and none would stall the bike. Setup is key! Only problem I have is can't get neutral on the '18 300 while engine is running, and the Stack Height (critical dimension) is spot on (according to the guys at Rekluse). Just a quirk of that particular bike I guess, you can't even find neutral with your hand while running. Bought the bike with that particular CX Rekluse so I don't know if neutral was that way with the stock clutch, my guess is yes.
Why a Luxon bottom clamp and a Rocs top clamp? Im so confused by that setup......
The Mako 360 does not work on a Luxon.
@@slaverace1 Oh okay I see. So why not just run a complete Xtrig set then?
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