Datto's Thoughts on Bungie Talking About Rewards/Loot in Destiny 2

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  • @doulosknight2648
    @doulosknight2648 4 года назад +752

    I don’t always agree with you, but that “where’s rift!?” hit hard.

    • @ibegalvatron6257
      @ibegalvatron6257 4 года назад +3

      Not really

    • @austinvarnado8376
      @austinvarnado8376 4 года назад +53

      @@ibegalvatron6257 No it hit hard, that game mode was the shiz

    • @kwinsjansen35
      @kwinsjansen35 4 года назад +36

      100% agree...Rift is a fun game mode, imagine Mayhem Rift and how much fun that would be!

    • @scarlettred6933
      @scarlettred6933 4 года назад +2

      Rift?

    • @ABlackGuyAdept
      @ABlackGuyAdept 4 года назад +29

      @@kwinsjansen35 iron banner rift. I swear i would live in iron banner. I've grown to hate control.

  • @dangerleader
    @dangerleader 4 года назад +422

    Seeing Datto run Hawkmoon as his primary again is beautiful. Just like the old days.

    • @charlesperrow7298
      @charlesperrow7298 4 года назад +30

      I didn't realize how good this gun is gonna be in high end content if you can run it

    • @salmannur7076
      @salmannur7076 4 года назад +6

      It's beautiful.

    • @julian-c17
      @julian-c17 4 года назад +5

      That’s not Hawkmoon

    • @xplosives1752
      @xplosives1752 4 года назад +49

      @@julian-c17 that’s literally hawkmoon

    • @charlesperrow7298
      @charlesperrow7298 4 года назад +22

      @@julian-c17 Aye man, cracked in pvp an pve, jus like the original hawkmoon. You jus mad cause you can't get random 1 or 2 taps

  • @shaney130
    @shaney130 4 года назад +524

    VoG + Wyverns = “I just got killed by a Wyvern. Wipe.”

    • @Con5tantine
      @Con5tantine 4 года назад +73

      inb4 Grandmaster Nightfalls have Champion Wyverns and I want to fucking die

    • @aaronfreeman8252
      @aaronfreeman8252 4 года назад +24

      @@Con5tantine unstoppable wyverns

    • @Con5tantine
      @Con5tantine 4 года назад +15

      @@aaronfreeman8252 *crying* Pls no. Oh god please no.

    • @jacck123
      @jacck123 4 года назад +5

      Add overload Wyvern

    • @Con5tantine
      @Con5tantine 4 года назад +1

      @@jacck123 😢

  • @geoffreygarsson9275
    @geoffreygarsson9275 4 года назад +232

    10:23 Two words for you: Mayhem Gambit (no, the portal would be on normal times, I'm not a madman)

    • @zachsuarez1830
      @zachsuarez1830 4 года назад +8

      That would be awesome

    • @syre8928
      @syre8928 4 года назад +17

      celestial nighthawking the primeval though

    • @zachsuarez1830
      @zachsuarez1830 4 года назад +6

      @@syre8928 oh nahhhhh

    • @zachsuarez1830
      @zachsuarez1830 4 года назад +5

      @@syre8928 or nova bomb

    • @ihaveanxietyissue3405
      @ihaveanxietyissue3405 4 года назад +26

      @@syre8928 I mean just give the Primeval bigger health bar if everyone can just nuke it.
      Or leave it, for the entertainment of that one team with 4 Nighthawk delet a meatball.

  • @FifthHorseman23
    @FifthHorseman23 4 года назад +277

    "Where is RIFT?!?"
    I felt that in my soul.

    • @ethanchirdon9375
      @ethanchirdon9375 4 года назад +4

      I ask for exactly 2 things from D1: Rift, because it would be a neat alternative to elimination-based competitive, and SRL, because I want to compete with other people based on something that isn't "Whomever fires Gnawing Hunger/Crimson/Ace/Hawkmoon/Thorn first, wins."

  • @rudy6433
    @rudy6433 4 года назад +378

    Can't lie, I legit chuckled loudly when you went "Where is RIFT?!"

    • @2good2bu7
      @2good2bu7 4 года назад +11

      My laugh had a little bit of pain mixed in. Iron Banner Rift is still one of my favorite PvP experiences and I'm sad I won't play it again.

    • @_Cooly_
      @_Cooly_ 4 года назад

      Wait, iron banner rift was a thing back in d1?!?

    • @ABlackGuyAdept
      @ABlackGuyAdept 4 года назад +5

      @@_Cooly_ iron banner rift, iron banner supremacy, iron banner mayhem clash. Iron Banner In D2 will never beat D1 Iron banner

    • @Creddz69
      @Creddz69 4 года назад +1

      @@_Cooly_ Iron banner was the shit is D1! By far was my favorite event...

    • @LordHojo
      @LordHojo 4 года назад +2

      Read this comment and was like, "Yeah I use to love Rift with a well coordinated team, it was fun as hell!". Then I watched the video and heard him say, "Where is RIFT?!" and I about died laughing, shit was funny as hell...hahaha!!

  • @raven75257
    @raven75257 4 года назад +150

    4:11 "here are some work in progress screenshots"
    *shows nothing*

    • @Majestic7274
      @Majestic7274 4 года назад +32

      Hm yes these screenshots are very I n t e r e s t I n g

    • @dwaynesundown2038
      @dwaynesundown2038 4 года назад +4

      I Mean that's kinda fitting when bungie is involved

  • @kbtjunior7419
    @kbtjunior7419 4 года назад +97

    I would like for us to be able to do strikes alone with out machmaking, as an option. That would be usefull, because then you can farm in peace with out someone else talking your kills.
    And also an option to auto-dissmantle blues, my inventory can't take it anymore.

    • @praisethepuck
      @praisethepuck 4 года назад +15

      I'd rather see the strike bounties turned into global things in exchange for an increase: That way it doesn't matter who gets the kill, you still get progress (There can be a range limit so people can't just AFK to do bounties. And I wouldn't even mind an increase in the numbers on bounties in exchange). I'd also like the strike bounties to be more free form, like I don't want to have to reload strikes until I queue into one with a Taken boss (Make it any boss, but Taken bosses give extra progress).

    • @YOOT_JJ
      @YOOT_JJ 4 года назад +5

      @@praisethepuck it would have to be multiple bosses in that case. So, lets say 3 boss kills needed, but a taken boss counts as two kills.

    • @peytonsnyder2421
      @peytonsnyder2421 4 года назад +8

      I'd want more enemies in strikes in general. That's the root of the problem. I think Bungie would want players to actually play and complete strikes in the playlist instead of going in solo solely for bounties and then leaving.

    • @dannygonzalez3130
      @dannygonzalez3130 4 года назад +2

      Don't you just love when you play nightfall at 1250 and above and says "Exotic gear or ascendent shards common " and just get all blues 🙃

    • @quill7889
      @quill7889 4 года назад +1

      @@praisethepuck Aye if you need a taken boss you can do the lake of shadows on the edz, it matchmakes and it's all taken :)
      (Just in case anyone didnt know)

  • @solomonaraneta1878
    @solomonaraneta1878 4 года назад +383

    Adept Virgins from Grandmaster Nightfalls you say? I’m in

    • @potatoaccuracy1276
      @potatoaccuracy1276 4 года назад +13

      Haha virgins

    • @nicklevesque2177
      @nicklevesque2177 4 года назад +24

      Now that’s an oxymoron right there

    • @ryeb
      @ryeb 4 года назад +12

      I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought they heard that.

    • @isaacgirouard5924
      @isaacgirouard5924 4 года назад +3

      Damn it, I made the same comment before seeing yours. Well done, friend.

    • @SquirtlePWN
      @SquirtlePWN 4 года назад +1

      There was distinctly a g in there. Anyone who says otherwise is a simp.

  • @jayded1836
    @jayded1836 4 года назад +83

    I want a place to buy armor mods. Instead of showing up at the gunsmith everyday hoping he has the warmind mod i missed out on.

    • @fort809
      @fort809 4 года назад +11

      3 seasons later I still don’t have powerful friends 😔

    • @bannedmann4469
      @bannedmann4469 4 года назад +1

      I want new mods all together. Not one this season.

    • @JWILSON3804
      @JWILSON3804 4 года назад

      I want this too. It hurts watching solo guides and they say, "this mod will help you out a ton" I'm just sat here with next to no useful mods trying to solo shizz 🤣

  • @kalplays9922
    @kalplays9922 4 года назад +48

    Destiny perpetually feels a year behind schedule. Everything is always “on the way” or “a step in the right direction”

    • @dragoonman1478
      @dragoonman1478 4 года назад +1

      That's the problem with live service games in my opinion

    • @ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh
      @ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh 4 года назад +3

      @@dragoonman1478 nah, just with bungo, who say this for about 6 years already.

  • @GeremyG
    @GeremyG 4 года назад +61

    With Shadowkeep and Forsaken being paid content there’s no reason why the associated loot shouldn’t be relevant.

    • @nicholascazmay2126
      @nicholascazmay2126 4 года назад +6

      100% agreed; if it’s there it should be viable

    • @filipmaly6603
      @filipmaly6603 4 года назад

      Well, you still need to buy them for 25 bucks each so yeah.

  • @Soloeagle54
    @Soloeagle54 4 года назад +131

    2:03 I legit thought you said "Adept virgins" lmao

    • @bigguy6269
      @bigguy6269 4 года назад +14

      They have the special perc "100+ Reddit Gold"

    • @bro...5849
      @bro...5849 4 года назад +10

      @Christopher It’s a joke calm down

    • @slippee.6154
      @slippee.6154 4 года назад +2

      The virgins are evolving.

    • @asdaasdsa
      @asdaasdsa 4 года назад +2

      @Christopher found a virgin

    • @TheAnalystXBL
      @TheAnalystXBL 4 года назад +1

      I heard it too and was about to make the same comment.

  • @titaniumknight8683
    @titaniumknight8683 4 года назад +81

    I’d love see Bungie do Seasons dedicated to one of the core playlists, such as Season of the Vanguard, where we get new maps, new game modes, new loot, and quality of life improvements.

    • @epicgamerzfail4575
      @epicgamerzfail4575 4 года назад +22

      Yeah, bungie complains about creating new content when in reality all they need to do is QoL updates on existing content. Season of Vanguard? Make that happen

    • @wazsan
      @wazsan 4 года назад +2

      Then that would literally be anti core playlist activities lmao

    • @faizansmagic4474
      @faizansmagic4474 4 года назад +6

      Yeah like season of the drifter

    • @wazsan
      @wazsan 4 года назад +2

      @@faizansmagic4474 bruh 😂

    • @YOOT_JJ
      @YOOT_JJ 4 года назад +9

      @@faizansmagic4474 gambit prime was an improvement imo, but reckoning fucking sucked. they just dropped the ball with it, and i hope that they wouldn’t with any new “core seasons”

  • @ipsyper791
    @ipsyper791 4 года назад +30

    “DDOS protection, that’s great I don’t know who would be mad about that.” Probably DDOSers.

    • @buffywasright
      @buffywasright 4 года назад +10

      You mean human garbage?

    • @delphitg2960
      @delphitg2960 4 года назад +4

      Okay but like they don’t have rights

  • @BIackSkillX
    @BIackSkillX 4 года назад +21

    1 Day before Beyond Light came out I got the perfect armor(piece) for my hunter. High stats and ideal distribution. The day later it was sunset xD I was sooo sad 😓
    Screw Armor sunsetting !

    • @thedragon7041
      @thedragon7041 4 года назад

      My godroll dreambane robes from pit were sunset :(

    • @peterqualman4601
      @peterqualman4601 4 года назад +1

      I’m sorry for your loss men

  • @spartanhunter6584
    @spartanhunter6584 4 года назад +21

    Hey Datto hawkmoon is back

  • @undeadNova
    @undeadNova 4 года назад +58

    it's okay datto, use your hawkmoon.

  • @anabkhan7323
    @anabkhan7323 4 года назад +7

    The need to bring strike specific weapons back from D1. Remember the skeleton key system to get unique weapons and armor from EVERY strike in D1? that would be big to revitalize strikes.

    • @Benny_B0O0
      @Benny_B0O0 4 года назад +2

      Idk why they haven’t done this by now

    • @marklo6283
      @marklo6283 4 года назад

      I want new weapons not old weapons

    • @anothermetaphor7586
      @anothermetaphor7586 4 года назад

      @@marklo6283 yes, but they can put the current nightfall exclusive strike loot in heroic strikes, and you get them from opening chests with skeleton keys

  • @esbeon99
    @esbeon99 4 года назад +48

    4:08 "Here are some WiP screenshots"
    ya sure about that chief?

    • @austinrinke5629
      @austinrinke5629 4 года назад

      He was reading the post that the dev put out. Not his words. The transmog picture are clipped into the post.

  • @mxwells216
    @mxwells216 4 года назад +13

    "It's not reasonable to replace that much stuff in an expansion" Come on man....you know expansions in the past TTK, RoI, Forsaken were twice as big or triple..when it came to weapons/armor

    • @Zedempremier
      @Zedempremier 4 года назад

      Yeah but Bungie had those Activision $$$ back then. Having a big publisher to back you up ain't that bad...

    • @mxwells216
      @mxwells216 4 года назад

      @@Zedempremier So this TWAB, they are literally lying?? cause how all of a sudden can they hire more people to create guns and such, but they couldn't do it for 2 years in a row? I'm confused...

    • @Zedempremier
      @Zedempremier 4 года назад +2

      @@mxwells216 Well, if it helps getting rid of your confusion : Bungie can make more content than they did for Beyond Light, but cannot do as much content than they did for TTK, ROI and Forsaken anymore. There are more options than those, you know.
      Then again, I understand why you are not satisfied. We had a taste of greatness with TTK and Forsaken, but now the situation has changed. I advise you to temper your expectations, because if you expect content on the scope of TTK anytime soon... You'll only get disappointed and angry.

    • @oldboy2399
      @oldboy2399 4 года назад +1

      @@Zedempremier Bungie are poor but developing multiple games like "Matter" for instance, 300 million in digital revenue in 2019, Destiny is basically a side project at this point, we are funding content development on new games, people still acting like Bungie are a poor indie company is laughable....

    • @Zedempremier
      @Zedempremier 4 года назад +3

      @@oldboy2399 Then it's a good thing I've never called Bungie poor. I just pointed out that Bungie doesn't have the same support they had until the Activision split, and such it's unreasonable to expect the same level of content.
      And mind you, I've also never said that this excuse Bungie in any capacity. I've never even said that I'm satisfied with the actual state of Destiny ( and as a matter of fact, I'm not. It doesn't matter for the sake of argument, but maybe you'll be more enclined to listen if I tell you this ? )
      The shitty thing is : being angry for the wrong reasons is not constructive. Expecting a product from a company who doesn't have the means to produce it yet isn't a constructive use of your time. Nostalgia can blind people from the real issues. That's all I'm sayin'.

  • @AwkwardThursdays
    @AwkwardThursdays 4 года назад +1

    He definitely did not say they are specifically providing a path to get warmind cell generating weapons. He said they will have a path to participate for any power relevant weapons, and used that as an example. Warmind cell mods are going to be sunset in 2 seasons like everything else from worthy. That's why they made a legacy and a combat mod slot. Mods will rotate out of combat and into legacy after a year.

  • @bobisconsumed520
    @bobisconsumed520 4 года назад +83

    Im fine as long as Bungie doesnt go crazy with sunsetting like this season did.

    • @NuckMunzo
      @NuckMunzo 4 года назад +30

      Probably won't happen again now that the yearly system is in place

    • @ObmanaCare
      @ObmanaCare 4 года назад +5

      Yeah the only thing I worry about is for the next raid and their weapons being sunset and we only have dsc loot hopefully they do something about that

    • @YOOT_JJ
      @YOOT_JJ 4 года назад +2

      @@ObmanaCare we’re getting VoG sometime, so we’ll have that loot pool. honestly though, i think that Bungie wouldn’t cycle out any raids until the next expansion comes along with more.

    • @zachsuarez1830
      @zachsuarez1830 4 года назад +6

      Homie....they didn’t go crazy, it was just big because there was no system before so they had to take out stuff, now ittl just keep rolling, they aren’t changing the system anymore

    • @goomy9966
      @goomy9966 4 года назад +6

      Zach Suarez agreed, its like ripping a bandaid off.

  • @omegazero5884
    @omegazero5884 4 года назад +10

    Something I really like is that we're having far more hey we noticed an issue here's how we are going to fix it instead of it being shoved in the twab

  • @undeadNova
    @undeadNova 4 года назад +116

    creating warmind cells with weapons is such a weak mindset.
    sunbracers laughs at you.

    • @noman1122
      @noman1122 4 года назад +3

      Sun shot: did someone say warmind cells?

    • @soundandfury9641
      @soundandfury9641 4 года назад +9

      In just about every difficult solo activity there is you should be running warmind cells. They’re definitely all that for solo players as they give you massive booms in terms of debuffs, add clear, and survival that you need playing solo. I honestly can’t remember the last time I or anyone I know used some kind of warmind cell team build.

    • @soundandfury9641
      @soundandfury9641 4 года назад +15

      @Christopher Ikelos SMG is literally the best PvE primary in the game. It definitely does not hurt you at all to run. Plenty of other great ones too. Thing is, you dont need massive add clear in multiplayer. Warmind cells are extremely important to clear more adds when alone because you dont have multiple friends to help you clear stuff. Also, making a ton of warmind cells is completely redundant as most adds die to one.

    • @soundandfury9641
      @soundandfury9641 4 года назад +13

      @Christopher No need to get uncivilized. I used Ikelos SMG almost all day getting the day one raid emblem. I formulate my own opinions and have used Ikelos SMG in grandmaster nightfalls, solo master empire hunts, master lost sectors, and use it because it does what no other weapons can do. You obviously aren't very good at the game and that's okay.

    • @soundandfury9641
      @soundandfury9641 4 года назад +8

      @Christopher okay but graviton lance can kill 2, maybe 3 adds with its explosion, and with the extremely long and difficult process of shooting a warmind cell, you can clear literally ever single enemy in a room, without using an exotic slot which you could use for lament, izinagi, witherhoard, or literally anything else that actually helps you. I also love how you assume I get my information from youtubers and then proceed to say that youtubers told you it was bad. If you value youtubers so much look at what datto uses the entire video lmao

  • @poggersquirrel583
    @poggersquirrel583 4 года назад +52

    All I want is my dead orbit scout back. She was my baby

    • @ALPHA_153
      @ALPHA_153 4 года назад +13

      Hung Jury best legendary primary for pve ever

    • @Ready_or_not_here_I_come
      @Ready_or_not_here_I_come 4 года назад

      Idk how I feel about you calling "Hung" Jury a she. 8)

    • @manfromhamaslume
      @manfromhamaslume 4 года назад

      no

    • @mattheweisthen8539
      @mattheweisthen8539 4 года назад

      Hung Jury for life!

    • @thenedsmmachannel8970
      @thenedsmmachannel8970 4 года назад +6

      It won't feel as good in this sandbox in D2 since Scouts in general are weak. I do miss it, it was my pve main all of Taken King

  • @regex2660
    @regex2660 4 года назад +4

    Datto: "How are we making every season the best time to jump back into Destiny, if you ask"
    Me who looks at the seasonal armor ornament as the sole factor: "hmm, yes, interesting"

  • @christian_4904
    @christian_4904 4 года назад +8

    10:10 knowing the pvp community if they bring back rift as a permanent playlist it’s the only thing people will play

    • @cranberrysolvent1772
      @cranberrysolvent1772 4 года назад +2

      And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with this

    • @pcrassen4975
      @pcrassen4975 4 года назад +2

      After three years of pretty much only controll? Controll deserves to not be used for a while lmao

  • @nerdyinmc
    @nerdyinmc 4 года назад +7

    I’d be ok grind strikes for quests if they brought back daybreak strikes. Those were so fun

    • @keller6920
      @keller6920 4 года назад

      I'd be ok to grind strikes for guaranteed reward... I haven't seen xenoclast in 2 weeks.

  • @stunts1012
    @stunts1012 4 года назад +1

    Just got hawkmoon today, man it feels so nice to use it again. The whole trinity of hand cannons have come back, last word, thorn, and hawkmoon.

  • @thegodsent0756
    @thegodsent0756 4 года назад +14

    Got that 1337 nice! Haven't seen leet in awhile!

  • @nrthrnlytsseekr1
    @nrthrnlytsseekr1 4 года назад +5

    "I wanna see Gambit, y'know, do whatever Gambit should do" - So good

  • @denniscook851
    @denniscook851 4 года назад +7

    I feel like we all knew this video was coming. Whether we wanted it or not, we’ve stepped into a war with Datto and the Devs of Bungie.

  • @Kaze02se
    @Kaze02se 4 года назад +1

    As someone who didn't play D1, I'm happy to see the returning weapons and raid, can't wait to try them out!

  • @NightAssasin151
    @NightAssasin151 4 года назад +7

    10:08 Where is RIFT
    That hit my soul hard cause iron banner rift was some the most fun I've had in Destiny

  • @TheCopyNinjaRF
    @TheCopyNinjaRF 4 года назад +1

    I think another issue people haven't really noticed is that the first season of the year doesn't really have value. Since you get 3 more seasons of use in my mind there is no need to grind weapons like high albedo or friction fire since I have warmind counter parts and they won't serve me past anything this year.

  • @toby3998
    @toby3998 4 года назад +36

    These are some blue-quality-thumbnails you been making recently Datto. Keep up the great work

    • @MrN1ckNack
      @MrN1ckNack 4 года назад +1

      Cleanest in the game

  • @williammeadows3794
    @williammeadows3794 4 года назад +1

    As someone who can't really afford season passes it's pretty nice to be able to get some of the good weapon's in world drop now (ikelis first in last out etc) but I understand people wanting new stuff to go for but keeping season pass weapons eventually in world drop would be nice

  • @MarvelousSoundz
    @MarvelousSoundz 4 года назад +36

    So they took out loot just to add it back over time through seasons...lol

    • @chrisgironda1746
      @chrisgironda1746 4 года назад +20

      and apparently they need to hire a lot more gun design devs to do so in the future..
      The sad part is that people don't see through Bungie's bullshit when they've been doing this stuff for years.

    • @xander7765
      @xander7765 4 года назад +11

      @@chrisgironda1746 yea I'm at the point where I'm done with destiny and done with bungies shit. They've basically ruined the game and paid content is unusable which is bs

    • @inshane2k112
      @inshane2k112 4 года назад +1

      This is what frustrates me the most about Datto, he will say one thing, then turn around and ask for the opposite:
      Datto: I agree with sunsetting.
      Also Datto: Don't sunset warmind builds!
      Datto: Sunsetting will keep things fresh.
      Also Datto: Core playlists are boring even with new guns. Also, old guns are better than no guns.
      When will Bungie/Datto realize that guns are not content and no amount of guns can make the game less boring? He gets so close to realizing that weapon sunsetting/cycling is a complete waste of time, but then completely misses the mark. These resources could be better spent developing more missions and upgrading the core systems (playlists, vendors, customization).

    • @hoxyheart5479
      @hoxyheart5479 4 года назад

      Joker is always right

  • @jhustmyles275
    @jhustmyles275 4 года назад +1

    I'd be alright with sunsetting if it functioned slightly differently. Just cap out sunset gear at the soft cap. That way you can't easily take them into pinnacle content, but CAN use them in casual content whenever you want. As it stands, you can't use "old" gear in PATROLS of all places. The most casual content in the game is too strong for sunset gear, which goes directly against what Bungie said it would do.
    As for strike playlists, give it something like the ranking in PvP and Gambit. Then, make all of them more rewarding to play (especially harder versions of content).
    Finally, all dungeons and raids present in the game NEED to stay at pinnacle cap until they are cycled into the DCV. That means updating the gear for Forsaken and the Moon. Sure, give it a week or two when a new location or expansion hits to update the LL's/Pinnacle gear. Let people enjoy the new stuff, push them into it, even. But after a short bit, update everything else. As it stands, most planets are dead (or nearly there). Give us a reason to go back.

  • @KIiph
    @KIiph 4 года назад +3

    I like that transmog is coming for armour but do u think we could see transmog for weapons

  • @dripgoku3442
    @dripgoku3442 4 года назад

    1:39 didn't know if anyone knew this but you can actually shoot hobgoblins with their shield up if you have anti-barrier

  • @LBPBeats
    @LBPBeats 4 года назад +6

    if the content is in the game, whatever loot drops from it should be viable 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @xander7765
      @xander7765 4 года назад +2

      Sunsetting should not exist period. Bungie should just balance their game like everyone else and not be incompetent

    • @computerkitsune
      @computerkitsune 4 года назад +1

      @@xander7765 Except almost every game that is anything like an MMORPG has some sort of weapon sunsetting, and it also prevents the Mountaintop, Recluse, Anarchy PvE meta we were stuck in for almost 2 years

    • @spengebabswagpants6768
      @spengebabswagpants6768 4 года назад

      @@computerkitsune elder scrolls online does not sunset gear

  • @matthewcaimbeul8722
    @matthewcaimbeul8722 4 года назад

    Thanks Datto, I was struggling to form my own opinion, don’t know what I would do without you.

  • @Brandonhatesmayo
    @Brandonhatesmayo 4 года назад +9

    It’s nice to have things to look forward to, I feel like that’s been this game the whole time it’s existed. What we need is never there when we truly need it and then people are so burnt out they miss the “good” stuff.
    A lot of stuff they mentioned really needed to be there back in November when BL launched.
    Very rough to cut so much content and replace almost nothing for a high price. This hurts more for us that already paid and paid and paid and had this happen again.
    I don’t ever see these things not being a problem or not happening again.
    I truly feel like we will never get another TTK expansion, Forsaken was so very close, but still not it.
    Sunsetting isn’t just bad for the obvious reasons people have said, but it really does show “why bother with this game?” It’s incredibly repetitive, it doesn’t have enough to do ever to make it a main game unless you’re making money on an channel like this. If they’re just gonna sunset stuff always because they aren’t good at balancing then I understand even further why the player base has dipped and will probably continue that.

    • @unleashedz5728
      @unleashedz5728 4 года назад +3

      Exactly but no one wants to hear that. Since Bungie said they will be fixing everyone forgot about the problems the game has.

    • @Brandonhatesmayo
      @Brandonhatesmayo 4 года назад +1

      @@unleashedz5728 it’s unfortunate people still are okay with that from them every year.

    • @unleashedz5728
      @unleashedz5728 4 года назад +1

      @@Brandonhatesmayo just look at the comments in the video, these people are so delusional, the minute Bungie promises something everything is fixed. All these promises they made are never going to be fulfilled.

    • @Brandonhatesmayo
      @Brandonhatesmayo 4 года назад

      @@unleashedz5728 oh I know, man. I’ve been here off and on since 2014, Wild how little changes.

    • @unleashedz5728
      @unleashedz5728 4 года назад +1

      @@Brandonhatesmayo been here since the beta if it wasnt for my friends would have been quit

  • @HopperChopper
    @HopperChopper 4 года назад

    The community update post from Luke Smith Datto had put out about 3 months over a year ago now also had a "WHERE IS RIFT??" And it made me laugh just as hard if not more. Video is called "Destiny 2: Luke Smith's Director's Cut - Summary and Datto's Thoughts" and the timestamp is 18:14.

  • @BananaKiller15
    @BananaKiller15 4 года назад +3

    I have been playing with Hawkmoon since I got it the other day. I refuse to take it off. I can't blame you Datto for just wanting to play with Hawkmoon.

    • @thenedsmmachannel8970
      @thenedsmmachannel8970 4 года назад

      It feels amazing on console

    • @BananaKiller15
      @BananaKiller15 4 года назад +3

      @@thenedsmmachannel8970 Just glad to have it back in my hands. Few other guns I wish could come back but I'm not gonna be mad if they don't. I'll keep my Hawkmoon & be happy.

    • @thenedsmmachannel8970
      @thenedsmmachannel8970 4 года назад

      @@BananaKiller15 i miss Tlaloc even though it was super broken :(

    • @BananaKiller15
      @BananaKiller15 4 года назад +1

      @@thenedsmmachannel8970 First Curse, Kahvastov (Exotic), and Patience & Time are the top 3 for me. I miss all of the guns but if I had to pick 3, it would be those. Also yes Tlaloc was super fun/ broken. xD

    • @thenedsmmachannel8970
      @thenedsmmachannel8970 4 года назад

      @@BananaKiller15 dang I miss First Curse too. I wish Plan C came back, I dont like that they made the exotic into a legendary perk basically. Invective was also a personal favorite of mine in PVE

  • @spectralparadisegaming7506
    @spectralparadisegaming7506 4 года назад

    I'm glad you brought up sunsetting effect on warmind cells

  • @Drropz
    @Drropz 4 года назад +4

    They said a while ago trials will get new loot in season 13 and luke did not talk about it

    • @DarthVader-tt5yy
      @DarthVader-tt5yy 4 года назад +3

      It’s just a new armor set I’m pretty sure

  • @smokeytripod
    @smokeytripod 4 года назад +2

    IMO they should have made the infusion cap on Forsaken and Shadowkeep items the same as season 11's items, so they wont have as long a shelf life as Beyond Light stuff and any new stuff but they would have been somewhat relevant still.
    Plus I might be on my own here but I fucking miss being able to use my Tigerspite auto rifle and have it be relevant >.

    • @r_kayne
      @r_kayne 4 года назад

      Honestly, I feel like weapons & armour directly related to expansion content just shouldn't be sunset. I don't think any of those weapons were really all that busted, so keeping them around wouldn't be like keeping pinnacles around

  • @Nickedup44
    @Nickedup44 4 года назад +3

    The vault of glass weapons are still the best raid weapons of all time Imo can’t wait for the fate bringer again

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 4 года назад

      Nah. Wrath had better overall loot. VoG only had a specific 4-5 guns that were top tier and everything else was below average

    • @justsomedude1593
      @justsomedude1593 4 года назад

      @@warv6552 yep

    • @justsomedude1593
      @justsomedude1593 4 года назад +1

      The dsc ones have random-but exclusive rolls, these are the best raid weapons because of this

  • @slippee.6154
    @slippee.6154 4 года назад +2

    Ayyy got the D2 Legendary edition for my homie and he's brand new to the Destiny universe and says he's enjoying it.

  • @pitta3114
    @pitta3114 4 года назад +6

    BTW Datto, anti-barrier rounds go through Hobgoblin's solar shield things, so you don't have to wait for them to finish.

    • @MIDA-Multi-Tool
      @MIDA-Multi-Tool 4 года назад

      He knows, but if you've ever done high level stuff (he was doing a legend difficulty hunt) you know that hobgoblins and ESPECIALLY yellow bar hobgoblins regen their health at obnoxious rates, to the point where it's basically impossible to kill one through its shield without multiple people. If he just unloaded smg rounds into it, it would literally do nothing because it would be able to regen faster than he could damage it.

  • @mana_mamba
    @mana_mamba 4 года назад +1

    Past seasonal mod acquisition needs to be looked at, waiting for 1 chance a day for charged with light / warmind mods sucks for new and returning players...

  • @Reaper-ml6ly
    @Reaper-ml6ly 4 года назад +16

    Woah man, it's almost like sunsetting half the gear that players accrued over the years was a bad idea.

    • @Roverglass
      @Roverglass 4 года назад

      Damn, who would’ve thought

    • @Boz196
      @Boz196 4 года назад

      Not even a bad idea just executed very very poorly

  • @tomz6594
    @tomz6594 4 года назад +1

    Sunsetting has definitely limited our loadouts in high end content. There are actually no fast firing pulse rifles at all. Can't use my favorite weapon type in Iron Banner. There are no Arc Scout rifles. I would have liked one for the 1280 Perdition. We need a lot more weapons.

  • @lloydtancred
    @lloydtancred 4 года назад +6

    Ahh why not buy shadow keep even though it’s gear & weapons are completely irrelevant through sun setting, make them free.

  • @Morbmaster420
    @Morbmaster420 4 года назад

    Remember how in challenge of the elders, there were weekly bonus modifiers to get extra score? Maybe there could be something like that in strikes, were you get bonus score from precision or something like that. Then, the higher score the better the rewards. Like maybe the high score reward could rotate between a guaranteed drop of a certain weapon, or have like 5 enhancement cores drop if you get a super high score.

  • @NekomimiDeluxe
    @NekomimiDeluxe 4 года назад +5

    "See you next t-" See you next WHAT? I have to know, the mystery is killing me!

  • @Gazooka
    @Gazooka 4 года назад +1

    One thing I already miss is the black armory forges, the forges gave you the weapons you wanted (not always the rolls but the odd curated roll). I feel the raid weapons should have been introduced into the blueprints Ada gave you in year 3 as it would make sense that she could reverse engineer the scout rifle, fusion, ect, and have the forges cough it out with the weekly blueprints she offered. Honestly i'd love to see that sort of mechanic reintroduced.
    That and i'm still waiting for SRL (Sparrow Racing League) to come back, hell make it an actual playlist activity like gambit, strikes and crucible. So when the event is active have special rewards like the guardian games did, Then when the event is over have it so it has a playlist activity/private match function for fun.

  • @obi-wankenobi4086
    @obi-wankenobi4086 4 года назад +16

    "Another year and another 70 bucks and we'll fix stuff"
    Well here we go again

    • @xander7765
      @xander7765 4 года назад +3

      Honestly bro fuck this game. I held off on buying beyond light and I'm glad I did. They break the whole ass game and then say okay give us a year and we'll fix it. Bungie is beyond stupid and for every step they take forward they take about 7 steps back. It's just the same cycle over and over again

    • @slamjammer2617
      @slamjammer2617 4 года назад +2

      @@xander7765 yes we get it bungie is lazy and Luke smith is satan very cool

  • @grafixguy7995
    @grafixguy7995 4 года назад

    Shadow Keep and Forsaken are also required for Nightfall Ordeals when those strikes are in rotation. To do last week's Nightfall my friend, who's been out for two years, had to purchase Forsaken to get his weekly reward.

  • @henrymoore2088
    @henrymoore2088 4 года назад +11

    Why didn’t we get any new crucible maps with Beyond Light? I would really love some new maps.

    • @Benny_B0O0
      @Benny_B0O0 4 года назад +2

      Yeah, I liked everything about beyond light except the lack or crucible content

  • @gluetube8576
    @gluetube8576 4 года назад +1

    Do you think rare gear will be usable for transmog?

  • @laquefa
    @laquefa 4 года назад +3

    “Frustration seeing people using guns you can’t earn anymore.”
    That’s what’s even more frustrating. I PAID to get those weapons. I bought the dlc to earn those weapons. If other players didn’t play during then, well shit sucks to be them. Literally every Online RPG games do this exact same thing. It creates rarity and incentives.

    • @jansenluke
      @jansenluke 4 года назад

      Agreed, it's a little elitist but I've lost motivation to grind for anything in the game. Seasonal mods, exotic weapon quests, pinnacle weapons... Why waste the time I have plenty of materials to just buy them from the kiosk when they get put in there. Really makes me feel like I wasted my time doing all those quests. But oh no if someone misses out on something that came out 2 years ago.

    • @diogoferreira6684
      @diogoferreira6684 4 года назад

      I agree with your point of view in a way but to be honest that's not the way to go about it. I'm speaking specifically about felwinter's lie and this will be a bit biased since I'm in this exact situation that I'm about to say but it's still not fair at all. I played in the first shadowkeep season and due to the lack of content in my opinion I just quit. I actually had bought all seasons but only played the first one which is either season 9 or 10 I'm not sure. Either way, I then came back in shadowkeep and every single gun I had is trash. My god roll mindbender's ambition with snapshot quickdraw is not useable anymore in trials and the only other viable option is felwinter's lie. In my opinion, making weapons unavailable to obtain anymore would be okay if sunsetting wasn't a thing. The fact that sunset limits the weapon pool by so much makes it straight up unfair to those who couldn't or even just didn't want to play a specific season and are essentially left to be farmed by those who did.
      TLDR.: I'd be totally okay if weapons stopped being earnable if sunsetting wasn't a thing. Since it is and the weapon pool is so small, it is just straight up unfair on light level enabled playlists.

  • @trystenhemmah
    @trystenhemmah 4 года назад +1

    I don’t use warmind cells at all. So if the ikelos weapons go away without a replacement, it won’t affect me. I don’t like the idea of being forced to use a specific weapon to be able to use a mod anyway. Hell, a lot of the new weapons this season put the Ikelos weapons to shame too which only exacerbates the desire to use anything but ikelos weapons, and by extension use anything but warmind cell mods.

  • @miketython1538
    @miketython1538 4 года назад +3

    Praying that the titan exotic is Twilight Garrison🙏

  • @adummy9664
    @adummy9664 4 года назад

    All I really want for Forsaken and Shadowkeep is for their gear to drop at relevant levels while the content is considered active, if Dreaming City and the Moon ever get thrown into the content vault then yeah go ahead a sunset the weapons that went with them.
    Keeping these areas relevant would also lighten up on the feeling of sameness throughout the game as then activities like Blind Well and Nightmare Hunts would serve a purpose again. (Having Nightmare Hunts drop Cores and Prisms would also help since they're essentially mini Nightfalls.)
    Not to mention the loot from these areas would fill in some equipment gaps that were created, like there being almost no Energy Scout Rifles left or the only other Precision Shotgun in the game being a raid drop.

  • @immortalcbox8769
    @immortalcbox8769 4 года назад +4

    Another way at looking at it. Game dev finally figures out that adding more loot to their looter game is a good thing.

  • @ii-if7kw
    @ii-if7kw 4 года назад +1

    I have never been as excited as when I heard VoG is coming back

  • @11679MRT
    @11679MRT 4 года назад +3

    Here we are doing quests for D1 exotics while excitedly waiting for D1 legendary Nightfall weapons and D1 raids. Whoooooot.........

    • @xander7765
      @xander7765 4 года назад +1

      Bungie is a joke

    • @stingray12323
      @stingray12323 4 года назад

      @@xander7765 you have to remember not everyone played D1 myself included so for those people all the stuff from there is completely new.
      And besides this is what the original vision for what destiny is supposed to be 1 continuous game that would evolve over time the only reason we have a D2 is because of Activision

  • @kat-rau.
    @kat-rau. 4 года назад +1

    does anyone know what the restrictions on transmog will be? I want to know if blues and common items will be available for use in the system, I wanna use that cloak-less Hunter hood.

  • @ChalkanCheese
    @ChalkanCheese 4 года назад +6

    I left Destiny when Beyond Light released. To make weapons / Armour players spent hours grinding for available at vendors & sunsetting the rest while removing more content than giving.... I value my time more than that.

  • @carpemkarzi
    @carpemkarzi 4 года назад

    Thank you for mentioning the exotic catalysts

  • @bigguy6269
    @bigguy6269 4 года назад +3

    Personally, i want them to move Palindrome to the Competitive Playlist, with adept from legend games. Comp needs something new.

  • @sauceinmyface9302
    @sauceinmyface9302 4 года назад

    About the armor sunsetting, maybe a random mod/perk system for armor would work, with customization provided to class items and in limited amounts for armor pieces

  • @yourdude9942
    @yourdude9942 4 года назад +3

    It's good that Bungie is "realizing" that loot is important in a loot shooter. But WHY didn't they think about that before Beyond Light? It's always "yeaah guys, we did some things wrong." But how can you not instantly know that almost no new loot isn't good in any way?

  • @kyleyoungmusic
    @kyleyoungmusic 4 года назад

    I haven’t played destiny in years, but I still watch your videos Datto!! You’re a legend . 🙏🏼🌎

  • @meh3277
    @meh3277 4 года назад +6

    "WHERE'S RIFT!"
    I felt that.......

  • @hirmetrium1
    @hirmetrium1 4 года назад

    Really awesome to see you call Bungie out on the expansions Datto. I want those moon weapons to be up to cap again so bad, they were probably my favourite thing about Shadowkeep. The fact Shadowkeep's price involves a whole season that simply isn't there anymore is also really frustrating for new players. Please keep up the consumerism fight :)

  • @dyliep8897
    @dyliep8897 4 года назад +8

    Moon loss sectors and pretty much the moon in general is pointless since almost everything in there is sunset

  • @tntradernox3654
    @tntradernox3654 4 года назад +1

    My theory is that the returning raids are going to be reskins to apply to the current story: xivu arath is crota. The quira is vault of glass, etc, etc.

    • @7bracket7
      @7bracket7 4 года назад

      That actually sounds pretty cool but I don’t think bungie would do that, and I also feel like those big threats would be better in their own new raids

  • @epicgamerzfail4575
    @epicgamerzfail4575 4 года назад +5

    Sounds promising, bungie realizing that loot in a looter shooter is important. Better late than never. Not a fan of using d1 weapons as a selling point. But more stuff is never bad

  • @odd-eyesfemboy2439
    @odd-eyesfemboy2439 4 года назад +1

    Honestly just unsunset shadowkeep. It was the previous DLC we got right before Beyond Light. It was way to soon to sunset the gear from that. Also unsunset dungeons. Because it would give players who have already bought those DLC's a reason to return to them as well as making them viable endgames activities for new players. Even more so if they added new loot to them. That way we would at least have all of the shadowkeep gear to earn again as well as dungeons to play each week while waiting for a more permanent solution. As well as the event on the moon. Maybe even bring blind well back? I mean why not? Its better than paying for a DLC only to have to be removed later. Also they took away content that people paid for, or made it practically useless. Doesn't anyone else question that?

  • @henkaan7741
    @henkaan7741 4 года назад +21

    2:03 adept virgins

  • @iitzDoom
    @iitzDoom 4 года назад

    One pretty simple change that would massively help with the core playlists, would be the ability to focus farm gear, give us a menagerie chalice or the wrathborn lure equivalent and let us farm strikes for rolls we want or for weapons that are sunset that we just really like. Personally, i love the aesthetic of the seventh seraph weapons and would farm them regardless of being sunset. Give core playlist armor sets set bonuses that arent game changing but give a boost in their respective playlist. Just a couple ideas that I personally have wanted for a while as a diablo player who has loved destiny since d1 beta and wants so badly to genuinely enjoy the game again.

  • @YodaMan-420
    @YodaMan-420 4 года назад +5

    2:02 adept vir/gins you say? interesting
    speaking of the exotic kiosk when do we get catalysts for those weapons? theyre kinda useless without them. and dont put them in raids bungie. you wont add matchmaking or lfg to the game so dont do players like that anymore.

    • @dcgyiiik
      @dcgyiiik 4 года назад +1

      There's lfg in their app and catalysts are high end pve and pvp endgame content it would make sense

    • @YodaMan-420
      @YodaMan-420 4 года назад

      @@dcgyiiik lfg in an app isnt an lfg inside the game. i dont need their app and im not getting it.

    • @dcgyiiik
      @dcgyiiik 4 года назад

      @@YodaMan-420 its an an easily accessible app and an lfg in game has no place really it's just you being lazy tbh

  • @Aarvult
    @Aarvult 4 года назад +1

    When they make more weapons. Can they add the enemy faction weapons to loot?

  • @coredna1
    @coredna1 4 года назад +6

    Sunnsetting is not good . Like i have a good long shadow or a god roll Main ingredient and now i can farm a weapon i alrdy have again like wtf

  • @Jaxx0099
    @Jaxx0099 4 года назад +1

    I don’t give a fuck if it is “unreasonable” to replace what they take from us. either replace what you remove OR DONT FUCKING REMOVE IT AT ALL.

  • @Disciple_82
    @Disciple_82 4 года назад +5

    Another year, another dev blog promising things.

  • @montregloe
    @montregloe 4 года назад

    To focus strikes, I would love some randomness for skeleton keys brought back, with a "stay in the playlist for three strikes in a row to get a challenging strikes" that drops a skeleton chest at the end. Could include champions, could have chaining strikes, could have voting for strikes that doesn't allow repeats.
    However, Dungeons need an ornament set and old random loots like Prophecy did. All D1 House of Wolves weapons and the Taken Sets for Shattered, red painted Crota Sets with weapons for Pit, and prophecy where it is. Make the ornaments drop once per week or from a flawless run, requiring 5 for every piece on every character. Too steep? Make it one, but it makes repeated returns to the dungeons possible, at least once per week for 5 weeks, but also if you want to farm some weapons too.

  • @Younguns0375
    @Younguns0375 4 года назад +7

    “ I trust bungie”.
    What stuff are you smoking? Must be some good stuff

  • @Mikoto_Suou
    @Mikoto_Suou 4 года назад

    5:41 wrath of rasputin takes care of that since sunshot, xeno, ace and other weapons that do solar splash damage will always be able to be used unless they sunset exotics which at that point I'll just quit because exotics should never be sunset since that's what's really making them feel exotic for me at this point in time.

  • @coldogno7
    @coldogno7 4 года назад +3

    remember the time they removed random rolls?
    these ppl are clueless of what players want

  • @GreenDay8510
    @GreenDay8510 4 года назад +1

    Armor sunset is either to make players spend more time grinding for better gear or corner people into using whatever shitty seasonal armor they put out

  • @chillzz4082
    @chillzz4082 4 года назад +5

    If you didnt get felwinters the 2 months it was out its your fault, it only took 2 hours to get.

    • @raveraidd
      @raveraidd 4 года назад +3

      people either couldn’t or wasn’t playing d2 during season of the worthy, its unfair that there is no other alternative to felwinters thats an aggressive frame and in the energy shot (astral horizon exists but trials isnt even out yet)

    • @Thotacus
      @Thotacus 4 года назад

      meh id say half and half. Theres a reason people call it season of the worthless. I dont think that it should be pretty much unrivaled compared to every other shotgun in game. Not fair to new light players who are just now joining since they have a more free model.

    • @poggersquirrel583
      @poggersquirrel583 4 года назад

      It’s not our fault that bungie hasn’t added a shotgun anywhere near on par with felwinters in 2 seasons. Its power cap is going to make it the most overpowered gun in the game for almost a year.

    • @blakeerenhouse943
      @blakeerenhouse943 4 года назад

      @@poggersquirrel583 next season is its last for the power cap

    • @poggersquirrel583
      @poggersquirrel583 4 года назад

      @@blakeerenhouse943 I know. Total lifespan.

  • @SquirtlePWN
    @SquirtlePWN 4 года назад

    What if wearing 4 pieces of matching armor gave a bonus specific to that armor set? Such as giving each armor piece 1 bonus energy? Or 10% bonus stasis shatter damage? Or increased weapon reload time?
    Or an additional mod slot on each piece?
    Then players are given a reason to obtain specific armor sets each season when new bonuses are available, but old armor is also still useful depending on your build and playstyle.

  • @TheSket
    @TheSket 4 года назад

    So datto idk if you know this or not but I discovered something interesting about Hawkmoon. The paracausal shot damage buff is not specifically related to the number of paracausal charge stacks. It’s based off the percentage of stacks relative to the number of shots in the mag. So if you run urself out of ammo with it and the last mag you load is only 2 shots. Getting one stack of paracausal charge will give you the full damage as if you had 7 stacks from a full mag. (You’ll also get the hawk screech)

  • @Guile_The_Exile
    @Guile_The_Exile 4 года назад

    Im so glad you mentioned the exotic catalyst thing...
    Cause after returning to D2 around mid S8 and earning whisper and outbreak FINALLY they are both kinda just stuck in my vault cause those heroic quests were too much alone and I couldn't find help at all...And that's just 2 off the top of my head. I wonder what the hell they are gonna do.