Great video, I inherited my grandfathers 72 FLH, he converted it to a electric start and a hydraulic clutch with a 3 inch open main belt. I’ve collected all the pieces from when it was a kickstart plan on putting it on and keeping the electric start as well.
Good tech stuff again! I have both on my shovel, electric and kickstart. I had an accident around 19 yrs ago and i still have some slight health issues with my right leg, so the electricstart makes my life a bit easier. And the kickstart is pretty much plan B, if(when) something goes wrong. Keep these videos coming!
Good to see a great video on the proper installation of a kick starter. Personally I've never owned or wanted a bike with the pussy start button. Know your bike and listen to what it tells you when kicking it over and it will be a one or two kicker. If I get too old ( or dumb) to kick start it reliably maybe I shouldn't be riding. Another great video in the vault, keep up the fantastic work. You guys have a great thing going on in that shop setup, show each other respect and make it last.
@@donrice8026 I'm 72 now and my thinking hasn't changed yet. Granted there has been the odd time or two that it would of been nice to just tickle that button and go ( like when it's 110° out and it stalls in traffic) but I felt that way too when I was in my twenties. If I get to the point where I'm not physically capable of kick starting the Shovel I'll know it's time to pack it in, and yes I know that day will come.
For the last ten years or so I've been throwing 5 speeds behind Shovels, nothing wrong with Shovel engines, it's the 1930s designed transmissions that holds them back.
I love four speeds and five speeds. The biggest difference I can fine between the two is with canyon riding. the extra gear in The five speed seems to be somewhere in between second and third the final drive gears are the same size between a four-speed and a five speed.
Awesome video. The only thing is, those oil slinger style ones aren’t great for foot clutch, if someone is doing a jockey shift. They aren’t very strong. So converting to a throw out bearing would be better in that case. Really the throw outs are better all around.
Picked up a seriously mint 2005 883XL ( 2,500 miles on it - IKR ! ) on the cheap ($1,500) and I wish there was a retro dual/kick start conversion kit for it. Some of My friends say go Bobber, some say Springer, I say Chopper, I win !
Seems like the hardest part of doing this would be the fear of ..oh dam..what if I f%&k it up going back together .. Nice video .. Thanks .. How about a video on that mechanical lift ..with the boat winch on it ..😎👍😎
ive been nervous to crack my tranny open and put the kicker in blindly this just made it way easier for me sick! i looked for a video but didnt find anything that went this far really dig the bikes and videos man
The magic button is nice to have on a cold morning with a hangover...or when I need to make a quick getaway. Great content...keep it comin'. Was that a heater I heard in the background?
Hey Cody , thanks for your videos brother . I was wanting to know if you would mind explaining what your parts list would be if you're starting from scratch building a chop. I plan on buying a shovel engine then finding a frame and so on. I've built on to an existing bike before but I want to start from scratch and would like to know everything that is needed to make a runner . It could be a cool series on different motors . Anyways thanks for your content.
well, that’s A tough one. Building a bike starting with only a engine is pretty damn hard not to mention way more expensive. When you start off with a donor bike you end up using a lot more then you would expect. Even little stuff like hardware adds up Quickly. I’ve done builds like this plenty of times and I have a pretty decent collection of parts in stock And I still usually get nickel and dimmed to death over the little stuff that you don’t think About. My opinion after doing this a few times (and I might make a video on it) is… buy a full stock bike running or not. Take inventory of all the parts that you can use from the stock bike (wheels, frontend, frame, drivetrain, etc.) that will give you a pretty good idea of what your going to need. Then you can make a large portion of your money back by selling what you don’t need from the stock bike and help you fund your build. I’ll go into more details when I cover this in a video. Hope this helps ya.
@@codyschoppercorner5727 yea that makes sense for sure because I can sell what I'm not wanting to get what I want and after seeing how much shovelhead motors are you might as well buy the whole bike. Thanks for the insight, truly enjoy your content, very informative.
Question about installing the oil slinger. I’m having a hell of a time taking the flat head screw/bolt out to install it. This is the bearing housing retaining screw. Any suggestions would be helpful
Yep, am making my 76 fxe kick only. Rebuilt my 4-speed from the ground up with andrews gears, and baker kicker stuff. Hardtailed the frame - yeah going all the way... call me stupid, but that is what I want.
Also, back in the day, batteries and ignition systems weren't comparable (reliable, powerful) to modern batteries. You could easily run the battery down trying to start a bike with points setup.
Usually if that model came with a kick starter and some didn’t come with the kick starter you can convert it using the factory pieces that came on the Kickstarter model.
Most of the time this is all about simplicity, removing what you don’t absolutely need. Getting rid of the starter is also getting rid of potential issues with wiring and other moving parts. Another plus is being able to run a $20 dollar battery that only has to keep up with your ignition and lights. A battery that has enough CCA for starting a 74”+ engine usually cost around $150 and up.
Great video, I inherited my grandfathers 72 FLH, he converted it to a electric start and a hydraulic clutch with a 3 inch open main belt. I’ve collected all the pieces from when it was a kickstart plan on putting it on and keeping the electric start as well.
Good tech stuff again! I have both on my shovel, electric and kickstart. I had an accident around 19 yrs ago and i still have some slight health issues with my right leg, so the electricstart makes my life a bit easier. And the kickstart is pretty much plan B, if(when) something goes wrong. Keep these videos coming!
Thanks, I’m glad you liked it.
Very instructive I’m learning myself that would be awesome if you keep making these types of videos
Thanks I’ll do my best.
Greatly appreciate you taking the time to put this video together. thanks.
You are welcome. I’m glad you like it
Great video bud as usual keep them coming. Have a great Holiday Season and you take care and stay safe. Looking forward to the next one.
Thanks john, I’ll keep them coming.
Great content you guys are doing and awesome step by step instructions.
thanks for the videos.
Thanks for checking them out
yo dude just want to come back and say thanks for this video helped me with my chop today!
Awesome glad I could help.
Good to see a great video on the proper installation of a kick starter. Personally I've never owned or wanted a bike with the pussy start button.
Know your bike and listen to what it tells you when kicking it over and it will be a one or two kicker. If I get too old ( or dumb) to kick start it reliably maybe I shouldn't be riding.
Another great video in the vault, keep up the fantastic work.
You guys have a great thing going on in that shop setup, show each other respect and make it last.
Thanks man. I couldn’t agree more. Glad we are on the same page
you get old one day your thinking will change
@@donrice8026 I'm 72 now and my thinking hasn't changed yet. Granted there has been the odd time or two that it would of been nice to just tickle that button and go ( like when it's 110° out and it stalls in traffic) but I felt that way too when I was in my twenties.
If I get to the point where I'm not physically capable of kick starting the Shovel I'll know it's time to pack it in, and yes I know that day will come.
@@74willy81 this is probably the best comment I’ve ever read.
That was great. Keep them coming.
Hell yes my dude. Keep em coming!
Thanks man.
For the last ten years or so I've been throwing 5 speeds behind Shovels, nothing wrong with Shovel engines, it's the 1930s designed transmissions that holds them back.
I love four speeds and five speeds. The biggest difference I can fine between the two is with canyon riding. the extra gear in The five speed seems to be somewhere in between second and third the final drive gears are the same size between a four-speed and a five speed.
Another reason I like using 5 speed is the avalibility of different modern primary and clutch systems.
@@kct9967 and they are a lot more affordable compared to the four-speed
Great videos guys keep em coming 👌 would be great to see a follow up of the open primary set up !
What would you like to see?
Just how you guys ended up setting up the open primary, clutch, controls you know, im about to do the same conversion on my shovel
Awesome video. The only thing is, those oil slinger style ones aren’t great for foot clutch, if someone is doing a jockey shift. They aren’t very strong. So converting to a throw out bearing would be better in that case. Really the throw outs are better all around.
Picked up a seriously mint 2005 883XL ( 2,500 miles on it - IKR ! ) on the cheap ($1,500) and I wish there was a retro dual/kick start conversion kit for it. Some of My friends say go Bobber, some say Springer, I say Chopper, I win !
Can’t go wrong with a chopper!
@@codyschoppercorner5727 Right on...
Hello thanks for this video, how to identify that the frame, engine, and trans are FLH? I will plan to buy that stuff. Thanks
Great video
Seems like the hardest part of doing this would be the fear of ..oh dam..what if I f%&k it up going back together ..
Nice video ..
Thanks ..
How about a video on that mechanical lift ..with the boat winch on it ..😎👍😎
Hahaha I get that. It’s really pretty easy though. And I’m glad you caught that! The lift is nuts. Built by some old biker in the 70s.
ive been nervous to crack my tranny open and put the kicker in blindly this just made it way easier for me sick! i looked for a video but didnt find anything that went this far really dig the bikes and videos man
Awesome! I’m glad I could help! If you run into any problems let me know.
Another awesome simple guide many thanks 👌☠️☠️👌
Thanks man!
The magic button is nice to have on a cold morning with a hangover...or when I need to make a quick getaway. Great content...keep it comin'.
Was that a heater I heard in the background?
Hahaha I get that. But sometimes the feeling of manually getting it going is pretty rewarding. And yes, we got the heater working again haha.
Hey Cody , thanks for your videos brother . I was wanting to know if you would mind explaining what your parts list would be if you're starting from scratch building a chop. I plan on buying a shovel engine then finding a frame and so on. I've built on to an existing bike before but I want to start from scratch and would like to know everything that is needed to make a runner . It could be a cool series on different motors . Anyways thanks for your content.
well, that’s A tough one. Building a bike starting with only a engine is pretty damn hard not to mention way more expensive. When you start off with a donor bike you end up using a lot more then you would expect. Even little stuff like hardware adds up
Quickly. I’ve done builds like this plenty of times and I have a pretty decent collection of parts in stock And I still usually get nickel and dimmed to death over the little stuff that you don’t think About. My opinion after doing this a few times (and I might make a video on it) is… buy a full stock bike running or not. Take inventory of all the parts that you can use from the stock bike (wheels, frontend, frame, drivetrain, etc.) that will give you a pretty good idea of what your going to need. Then you can make a large portion of your money back by selling what you don’t need from the stock bike and help you fund your build. I’ll go into more details when I cover this in a video. Hope this helps ya.
@@codyschoppercorner5727 yea that makes sense for sure because I can sell what I'm not wanting to get what I want and after seeing how much shovelhead motors are you might as well buy the whole bike. Thanks for the insight, truly enjoy your content, very informative.
And the cool factor 🤘🏻
Cool video 👍
dude what song is that in the intro? the riffs been stuck in my head for days!
who makes the best kit, as this kit is no longer avaible from HD. tks good vid
Consider a little more lite and thanx for the boosts 🎃✌🏻
Great video Cody. I’m thinking of swapping the whole case on my transmission as it has a crack. Have you every rebuild one from the ground up? Thanks!
Not all at once but chucks cycles on RUclips has a great video of doing it.
Thanks a lot man! I will check it out.
High compression and a kick starter , just a warning . But the kicker does help with keeping it well timed.
Finally starting to assemble mine. The Clymer manual is borderline useless!
Good video
Question about installing the oil slinger. I’m having a hell of a time taking the flat head screw/bolt out to install it. This is the bearing housing retaining screw. Any suggestions would be helpful
Gracias, aprendí mucho
Can you convert to kick start and keep the starter as well? I seem to remember some shovels with both? Maybe not idk?
Yes you can.
Yep, am making my 76 fxe kick only. Rebuilt my 4-speed from the ground up with andrews gears, and baker kicker stuff. Hardtailed the frame - yeah going all the way... call me stupid, but that is what I want.
Sounds like it’s going to be pretty damn solid to me !
Also, back in the day, batteries and ignition systems weren't comparable (reliable, powerful) to modern batteries. You could easily run the battery down trying to start a bike with points setup.
Yoo my dude he'll yea🤘
Damn those acorn nuts are hella tite
Should my clutch finger be resting on the kicker cover?
On the inside yes
Canbyou find kicker convertions for most bike or are they only for certain bikes
Usually if that model came with a kick starter and some didn’t come with the kick starter you can convert it using the factory pieces that came on the Kickstarter model.
@@codyschoppercorner5727 thank you
Is it posible to do it on a 125 cc?
I don’t know what bike you are referring two. But if some models came with a kick starter that year I bet it’s possible.
@@codyschoppercorner5727 i just wanna buy a 125 cc bike and i would like to have a kickstarter
Why not keep the electric start and add the kicker ?
Most of the time this is all about simplicity, removing what you don’t absolutely need. Getting rid of the starter is also getting rid of potential issues with wiring and other moving parts. Another plus is being able to run a $20 dollar battery that only has to keep up with your ignition and lights. A battery that has enough CCA for starting a 74”+ engine usually cost around $150 and up.
I noticed something, are you using a mousetrap?
Its not kick and electric.. f that
Is that truck for sale?