How NOT to Big Wall - Climbing logistics when big walling

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @HowNOT2
    @HowNOT2  Год назад

    Check out our new store! hownot2.store/

  • @trmess1403
    @trmess1403 3 года назад +22

    I do believe this channel has saved lives over the years. Some serious gold-standard info on all of these vids. Thank you for making a difference!

  • @seedmole
    @seedmole 3 года назад +27

    Even as someone who just does hiking and camping, this is an immensely valuable source of tips for bag packing, gear management and such. Great content.

  • @EvanWisheropp
    @EvanWisheropp 5 лет назад +80

    "Hopefully you know how to climb before you climb a big wall" -- I feel like this is the very first piece of advice, and the one that sooooo many people ignore before getting on the Nose.

    • @rooknado
      @rooknado 3 месяца назад

      Who’s ignoring this?!

  • @brendanparke
    @brendanparke 5 лет назад +108

    Really loved the video; Would love to see more of these climbing-orientated vids in the future

  • @showdownz
    @showdownz 5 лет назад +18

    I'm not a climber really. But I watch from time to time... I really enjoyed the clear way you laid this out. It was easy enough to understand for some one with basically no experience (I've only repelled), so I'm sure someone with actual climbing experience could easily get something out of this. I am a big advocate for organization especially when lives are on the line. Organization is key to not forgetting steps because once it is established, even in stressful situations the habit of doing something in a specific order or way will keep you from forgetting critical steps (this is something i do have experience in). Thank you for sharing your knowledge by making this video.

  • @Archer-bc6cv
    @Archer-bc6cv 5 лет назад +25

    Granted ive never used a haul bag before so take what I’m saying with a grain of salt, but I heard that the reason the handles of a haul bag are different lengths is so you can attach a carabiner to the shorter one and then pass your main carabiner through that carabiner and the longer handle. With this set up you never have to open the main carabiner to open the bag because all you have to do is detach the carabiner from the shorter handle from the main carabiner to open the bag.
    Let me know if I’m incorrect. As I said I’m just going off of word of mouth from someone else.
    Also he talks about the handle lengthier here: 7:03
    Edit: He explains what I was trying to say at 22:00 although with a rope bag not a haul bag

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад +4

      I just had someone show this to me yesterday. You're right, it is how the handles are suppose to be used. However, it never occurred for me to do that because I girth hitch the base of the handle (that yellow part) and the handles are never an issue when I get into my bag. Depends how and where you fix the bag from. You can see the way you are describing in our next video which is coming out in a few weeks.

    • @danballarin
      @danballarin 5 лет назад +1

      you beat me to it

  • @Yaimdan
    @Yaimdan 3 года назад +1

    Just getting into climbing. Joined a gym, and put together a full indoor wall gear set. Super informative to watch this vid and learn the dos and don'ts. The sarcasm was very refreshing. Thanks for the laughs and information.

  • @ryanhenderson4868
    @ryanhenderson4868 5 лет назад +113

    This was hilarious. And super informative. And you said "shit" like 72 times. I love it.

    • @Mark-Dibble
      @Mark-Dibble 4 года назад +2

      The vid needs a little counter, like that South Park episode. Lol happy climbing.

    • @ryanhenderson4868
      @ryanhenderson4868 3 года назад +1

      @@DaysOfDarknessUK Thanks for the correction :)

  • @neild7971
    @neild7971 4 года назад +2

    only just found this and really enjoyed it. one minor thing i do different is to have a short length of rope instead of a daisy on top of the haul bag, that way i can tie off with a munter hitch and releasing the bag is easy, even lowering it out a bit to prevent a swing. thanks for all your work, i'll share this with friends :)
    EDIT: just watched 2.0 and you showed a similar/better way to dock the bag.

  • @danbruck9728
    @danbruck9728 5 лет назад +74

    "And then you squeeze all the air out of the poop bag. Its the best part"
    "Our hold your friends hand while you poop. After all, theyre right there with you."
    Lmao. Oh god.

  • @martinrandez7021
    @martinrandez7021 4 года назад +2

    this is priceless! I love your channel. Yes, highlining, big walling, all of it! it's all relevant and gracefully captured :)

  • @aurtisanminer2827
    @aurtisanminer2827 3 года назад +4

    13:10. I did a strength test on those reusable plastic bags and that exact type took 90 lbs to break the handles. The newer ones arent as strong but still take about 70-80 lbs to break.

  • @mascatrails661
    @mascatrails661 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks for putting out such a broad video! I'm more of a hiker than a climber... when packing a bag for hiking, I find it more comfortable to put the heaviest items "high and close" to my back

  • @JasperJanssen
    @JasperJanssen 4 года назад +99

    “Don’t drop this on pitch 10 of El Capitan” #oddlyspecific

  • @brandondillon2045
    @brandondillon2045 5 лет назад +8

    2:05 -- I'd love to see a pull test on your haul bag breakaway loop. Or maybe an entire episode where you pull test various accessory cord?

  • @AdaptivePrep
    @AdaptivePrep Год назад

    Friggen' awesome coverage and overview of your big wall process. Very impressed with the channel. Solid work man.

  • @beijingsffilmgroup
    @beijingsffilmgroup 5 лет назад +5

    I loved those in depth of details of practical tasks. And thanks for sharing many techniques which come from your experiences. Very happy to learn how to handle nature calls, sometimes one wonders how it should be done, but embarrassed to ask... Great sense of humor...

  • @sethsends
    @sethsends 5 лет назад +9

    I cant even tell you how long ive been waiting for you to make this video.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад

      A better one is coming!

  • @ujjc001
    @ujjc001 5 лет назад +2

    I like the info on what to do when you cannot communicate. Great skills to NEVER screw up.

  • @PaulGaines-t8d
    @PaulGaines-t8d 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you so much, this helps with my big wall adventures and I appreciate all the tips and tricks

  • @charlesperry3742
    @charlesperry3742 4 года назад +1

    use chord on belay loop for feefee hook and then tape at the chord at the bottom of the feefee hook so it is stable and easy to hook. In the haul bag, I have a ring of webbing/chord that is attached around the interior top of the haul bag. I use small daisy chains of different colors and attach them to the interior ringed webbing. Now I can attach with uber small carabineers to each of the daisy chain loops different items contained in stuff sacks i.e. sleeping gear on one chain, bad weather gear on another chain, food-stove on another chain etc. This is handy for the water is at the bottom of the haul bag. If need to access the water you just pull out the daisy chains from the haul bag and they are safe and secured and you can get to your water quickly and repacking is quick. If bad weather rolls in suddenly, you have a specific daisy chain for bad weather gear and can access the gear quickly without having to unpack the other stuff. If you do have to unpack other items you just pull out that daisy chain and those items are just hanging on the outside of the haul bag ready to easily repack. This method is quick and eliminates the possibility of dropping items. It also time-saving for it eliminates taking each individual item out of the haul bag and attaching that item to something and then having to repack each individual item. What this system also eliminates is pulling on an item in the haul bag and it pulls out another item out of the haul bag which with my luck, swiftly descends down the side of the cliff never to be seen from man again. Hope this helps.

  • @tompeek9911
    @tompeek9911 5 лет назад +4

    Thanks a lot Ryan! This is your most useful video so far for me. Awesome! Can you perhaps consider showing techniques such as lowerouts, swings, and short fixing in one of your next episodes?

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад +4

      Since ppl like these so much we will definitely do more of them and go into details about certain aspects such as lower outs, swings and short fixing.

  • @jaredshearer7989
    @jaredshearer7989 5 лет назад +3

    I've never literally lol'd at a climbing video. Awesome, dude.

  • @martinrandez7021
    @martinrandez7021 4 года назад +1

    Really, really enjoyed this video! In-depth yet entertaining with lots of valuable tips. Many thanks for taking the time to share your experiences :)))

  • @mitchellbarnow1709
    @mitchellbarnow1709 3 года назад

    You are incredibly thorough, Ryan. I love that about you!

  • @jontweedlie6394
    @jontweedlie6394 5 лет назад +3

    You need to make more big wall related videos man. This was really good!

  • @simonon-music
    @simonon-music 5 лет назад +7

    Love your shirt man!! Levi will be happy to see this

  • @tomo8281
    @tomo8281 4 года назад +1

    Amazing video - thanks so much. Looking forward to more of these. Not a slackliner but love the climbing content because it feels like real solid advice coming from someone who has not just smashed a few big walls, but also fucked up sometimes too haha!

  • @grindanb7169
    @grindanb7169 5 лет назад +1

    Sensational educational video. I love the way you explain things with humor!

  • @steventhaw3765
    @steventhaw3765 4 года назад +1

    Clove Hitch for each carabiner at the anchor points and the master point ! Strongest, Safest, and Most Efficient!

  • @corbindallasmultipass
    @corbindallasmultipass 10 месяцев назад

    Amazing! Not a climber at all, this is super fascinating to watch.

  • @lucadondoni843
    @lucadondoni843 5 лет назад +2

    Dear, thank you for your videos. I don't know if you'll save some life (probably yes ...), but surely you help us all to have more fun and to have less fear (or real terror ...).
    Thank you very much for the culture you spread.
    Even here in Italy everyone says "safety first of all", and then they abseil down and attach themselves to dangerous rocks (like those of Willy the coyote). With the highiline it is better, but only because it is still something for the few ... You are important, so go ahead.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you for the kind words. I enjoy learning and showing the process as i go!

  • @deang.7483
    @deang.7483 4 года назад

    This stuff is gold. Thank you ! A lot of info but clearly explained & demonstrated. A lot to think about but a huge help as I have been going over the sequence of tasks from written sources & its difficult to picture it all in your head. The little tricks (e.g smaller water bottles ) can obviously make life a lot easier. Looking to do my 1st big wall within next few years...... if there are still some airlines going to the US !

  • @jawoable
    @jawoable 5 лет назад +3

    The video I have been waiting for.
    Thank you

  • @johnheberle6471
    @johnheberle6471 4 года назад +3

    SlackSnap Idea: Test daisy chain girth hitched to belay loop vs girth hitch around leg and waist loop.
    I was looking at modifying my PAS and I was thinking about using a daisy chain girth hitched to my belay loop to keep it in the same position and for convenience. I noticed you had two items on your belay loop however when I looked into this I found that a girth hitch directly to the belay loop would weaken the system and I want to know if this is correct.

  • @flyboy748
    @flyboy748 5 лет назад

    Really, really good stuff!! I was elaborating about my dislike for full-strength haul loops just the other day, and a bit frustrated that my wall harness has one. Never considered that solution, I love it.

  • @johnfudge575
    @johnfudge575 5 лет назад +1

    Great information here. I haven’t done a big wall yet just a few multi pitches, but I’m gonna have to go back and watch this again, maybe a couple times before I tackle the nose. (Kidding) Great video.

  • @johngo6283
    @johngo6283 5 лет назад

    Outstanding video. One suggestion, at about 31:00, regarding hauling, is that you never attach your haul bag to the anchor with a daisy chain. Always use some kind of quick releasable docking cord system, so the bag can always be released, even if it’s under tension.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад +1

      That is a good point. Our video coming out in 2 weeks shows this better system you talk about

  • @Sicnus
    @Sicnus 3 года назад +1

    Thanks man! Loved it. Here for big wall climbing bits, not the highline. :)

  • @fox14onepiece32
    @fox14onepiece32 4 года назад

    I love the way you explain things! You make it look so easy

  • @harryhulk1988
    @harryhulk1988 5 лет назад +4

    this is really great video useful and fun to watch thanks man !

  • @nikkkis90
    @nikkkis90 2 года назад

    Totally loved this! I just discovered your channel so hopefully there will be more videos to watch and learn from.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  2 года назад

      We just finished a whole Big Wall Bible course with tons more info.

  • @ImmaSteamRoller
    @ImmaSteamRoller 4 года назад +7

    Is there a secondary use for the repeating cone shaped device at 13 minutes?

  • @bennettstone656
    @bennettstone656 4 года назад +3

    14:58 "air mattresses can be a little...*mini-dance party*"

  • @markchurch524
    @markchurch524 5 лет назад

    This video would have been amazing about 10 years ago when I was looking to find this info. Well done sir, hope some new guys just got a crash course into getting organized.

  • @bighigmt
    @bighigmt 3 года назад +1

    Entertaining and educational. Two-way radios do wonders for communication, though! And I would prefer a grigri for a haul catch so it's easier to lower off if needed. Also, why is everyone so opposed to a quick 3:1 on the haul? Drop the pull side down with a microtrax to lift the haul line, then back up to a pulley. Takes 30 seconds, the motion is the same, and it's SO much easier to haul a heavy load. Maybe it's just cause I'm a 40-something "old guy" - but if you ask me it's worth a little extra time, and a couple pieces of gear. Keep the videos comin'!

  • @TheBradosaurus
    @TheBradosaurus 5 лет назад +1

    Really nice video, Ryan. Especially on 2x speed.
    I just noticed the sticker you have on your pegboard. Thx for keeping Ho alive.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад +1

      I review all my videos in 2x speed, it flows well that way haha. :)

  • @weatherm1
    @weatherm1 4 года назад

    Need to do a revision at the 7:00 section. You're going to cause people to have 3 immediate issues. 1. Undoing one of the straps is very hard that way with 60+ lbs of gear. 2. Closing the bag for hauling and 3. It doesn't sit flush on the wall and will tend to cause more hick-ups and frustration. All of this can be solved with another locker.

  • @markburgess3512
    @markburgess3512 5 лет назад

    Excellent explanation and easygoing approach and very informative. Cheers from Herefordshire England no big walls near me but can use all that you explained on areas around Wye valley where live.cheers

  • @jaywood8296
    @jaywood8296 5 лет назад

    Nice.
    +1 on cord for munter hitch to be able to lower out the bag, instead of daisy.
    Clipping the hauler directly to a bolt= no rotation= CF. Jam, unable to lower, etc.
    Longer loops on the water bottles allow holding a bunch at a time, etc. Better.
    Counterpoint to the haul line tie in to the harness: I believe that climbers have had lead rope cut and fallen onto that full strength haul loop.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @stephanhuet2421
    @stephanhuet2421 Год назад

    Hi, at 2:45, can you please give the exact description ?
    Cant find that ''adjustable flat webbing lanyard'' anywhere on the internet.
    thanks.

  • @lucasgibbonsmedia
    @lucasgibbonsmedia 5 лет назад +3

    loved the video! please do some more big wall vids

  • @lilingkun5299
    @lilingkun5299 5 лет назад +2

    You deserve more subscribers.

  • @gregrichards2240
    @gregrichards2240 3 года назад

    Really good vid, feel like I need to watch it several times over to learn it....

  • @saucysam3620
    @saucysam3620 5 лет назад +1

    Gonna add one thing on your haul bag, one strap is longer so you can open your bag without ever risking dropping it. You take a locker to hold the short strand and put it into the knot (I’ve never used a swivel, they are uneccecary as the rope can twist and will twist regardless) the long strand can get a straight gate nonlocker and that goes into the locker. You never open the short strands locker.

  • @thewarden5
    @thewarden5 5 лет назад

    Absolutely amazing video Ryan! Looking for more of these from you if you have the time!

  • @kylehasfun3114
    @kylehasfun3114 4 года назад +1

    Great video man, took a lot away from it. Would love to see any more you have to share on big walling. 👍

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  4 года назад

      We do have a 2nd big wall video. More to come this year

  • @guywhoclimbsstuff8689
    @guywhoclimbsstuff8689 5 лет назад +1

    Instructional and entertaining! Nice job!

  • @naturarum
    @naturarum 5 лет назад +37

    shit Ryan, I feel like I'm ripping you off by only paying $1 for this on Patreon. You should let us contribute more. You're building an encyclopedia here!

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад +6

      Thanks for kind words. The dollar is more about stoke but since i'm building bolt busters where we are going to actually break test 1000 bolts, if you would like to donate more, please send via www.paypal.me/slackcessfund

  • @noahgreen1366
    @noahgreen1366 5 лет назад +1

    Really enjoyed... would like to see recommendations on beginner big walls.. routes to build up to the nose

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад

      Maybe i can make a unofficial prerequisite i recommend you do before climbing the nose... i just have been hosed many times in the first 6 pitches by parties who struggle hauling in what is essentially 45 degrees since the route moves so aggressively to the right. Normal big wall environment is hard enough haha but then there is the nose.

  • @veithdelberg5106
    @veithdelberg5106 5 лет назад +1

    13:22 Mega Awesome!!! Love your channel!

  • @joshgibson267
    @joshgibson267 3 года назад

    This is fantastic, so much to take in. :)

  • @conchosewing
    @conchosewing 5 лет назад +3

    great tips and tricks, my guy. great video

  • @cedricbuccheit2539
    @cedricbuccheit2539 3 года назад

    Very nice video, I just wonder why no using very light talkies-walkies to communicate? I use some for my multi pitch sport climbing routes an they are realy convenient in tricky situations.

  • @sierinlang
    @sierinlang 4 года назад

    24:33 what is that black behind you(beside brown rope)? lesf side of the screen if you're watching

  • @mitchellan-ebbott7408
    @mitchellan-ebbott7408 4 года назад +2

    Can you put those water bottle handles on the SlackSnap?

  • @allthesevids
    @allthesevids 5 лет назад

    This was a super informative video, would love to see more content like this

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад

      More coming soon!

  • @malrex0mari
    @malrex0mari 2 года назад

    Awesome Video! Thank you! 😀

  • @stevenmarrapese1328
    @stevenmarrapese1328 4 года назад

    Yes would really like to see more of these videos

  • @khrumkashan6954
    @khrumkashan6954 5 лет назад

    Bible thank you sir! So much good information.

  • @matt_heinen
    @matt_heinen 5 лет назад +3

    So awesome wearing Levi's shirt!

  • @lostarts26
    @lostarts26 5 лет назад +6

    "Get all the air out, its thr best part" 😂

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад +3

      sometimes you just have to let out some steam hahahaha

  • @richardsmith9918
    @richardsmith9918 5 месяцев назад

    What kind of harness is that with the white and orange belay loops?

  • @jjack2684
    @jjack2684 5 лет назад +10

    01:51 interesting learning about how a haul line can kill you 😂

  • @drclimb
    @drclimb 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great video!
    Some questions:
    You built this big and strong masterpoint, but only clipped the fixed jugging rope of the partner in it, not yourself (as redundancy) or backup of the hauling bag. Why so?
    When you clip the daisy of the haulbag and take away the pro traction, the only redundancy for this bag is the biner at the other end of the static haul line. If the daisy breaks, the bag would fall down a full rope length...

  • @rushthezeppelin
    @rushthezeppelin 3 года назад +1

    The person that died putting his daisies (or was it a PAS? I can't remember) on his belay loop had let the condition of said loops turn to obvious utter crap. People had been telling him for months before he sawed through those things that his whole harness was past it's prime. As long as you check the belay loops after each trip for major wear and replace the harness when needed it's no big deal. Same thing could have happened to him with his tie in points given enough time. Harnesses are products that wear and need replacement same as any other soft good. That said for my PAS I do go through the tie ins now, at least partially because I know a lot of other people switched to that after the accident and I just want to give my partners peace of mind. I don't do hardly any aiding but when I do I put my daisies on my belay loops and I check them often..

  • @TyMan970
    @TyMan970 5 лет назад +2

    35:37 you my dude we should kick it lol

  • @alesantana
    @alesantana 4 года назад +1

    Master class!

  • @nathankenny3765
    @nathankenny3765 5 лет назад

    Best video I’ve ever seen

  • @trip7shark
    @trip7shark 3 года назад

    Awwwesooome breakdown!

  • @climberrob7108
    @climberrob7108 5 лет назад +1

    Why not use the munter mule to fix the bag at the anchor? Also, have you ever used the rope with alpine butterfly to fix the lead line (Hudon’s method)? It’s fast, clean and easy to untie. Great tips!. I’ve been thinking about switching from the metolious waste case to the plastic bottle method. Thanks! Keep making big wall climbing videos!

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад +1

      If I'm going to lower it off after the next lead, a munter mule is a good idea. Probably easier to untie a alpine butterfly after the 2nd comes up but I could shock you with all the uses i found for figure 8s ;). I'm a big fan of 8s for their simplicity. I know any knot is simple once you know it but when I'm bonking all the time... i like to stick with real familiar haha

  • @mdezeeuw6684
    @mdezeeuw6684 3 года назад

    Great content and........ good presentation with a ;)

  • @codyesser1750
    @codyesser1750 3 года назад

    Hey, amazing video, thanks!
    quick question for anyone more knowledgeable, is it not problematic to have your haul bag on only one peice of fixed gear?

  • @edvinus1
    @edvinus1 4 года назад

    25:40 what type of knot u use on that rope ?

  • @bsbrianbs
    @bsbrianbs 5 лет назад

    this was great xD
    love the side video on climbing

  • @billjohnson69
    @billjohnson69 4 года назад +1

    Where did you get the shirt you are wearing? I can’t find it anywhere?

    • @benrawlsmusic
      @benrawlsmusic 4 года назад

      I TOo! Wanna know about said shirt!! It’s rad!! Make merch.

    • @billjohnson69
      @billjohnson69 4 года назад

      Benjamin David Rawls
      We are actually going to start printing a similar shirt. I couldn’t find it anywhere and own a shirt printing company so I designed one like it.
      Feel free to email me at jhebel@hapadesigns.com if you want one!

  • @MrRaandom
    @MrRaandom 4 года назад

    Loved this!

  • @johngo6283
    @johngo6283 5 лет назад

    32:30 or so: Overall, this is an excellent video. However, in a couple of different places, you use the terms “jugging”, and “hauling”, interchangeably, but they are not the same thing. “Jugging”, is the second using their ascenders to climb the fixed rope. “Hauling” is the leader and using a progress capture system to pull up the haul bag. Experience climbers will know what you mean, but beginners might get a little confused.

    • @HowNOT2
      @HowNOT2  5 лет назад

      i was just shooting from the hip, but you are right!

  • @tomogorman3947
    @tomogorman3947 3 года назад +1

    "I have done over 17 big wall climbs" .. so 18 big wall climbs. You've done 18. lol

  • @chtclimbing
    @chtclimbing 4 года назад

    super funny, informative and clever. Greetings from a tree in Jersey

  • @ignacioinder
    @ignacioinder 5 лет назад

    you that real deal educator brother!

  • @konkelkent
    @konkelkent 2 года назад

    Is it possible to make a Knot, That gets tighter if you just pull veeery slowly on it, But if you Jerk it it will just get loose and fall out? so if something falls down fast it jerks out the knot, but if its just hanging on to you it stays on. Might be a idiotic question but :D

  • @phoenix4ever367
    @phoenix4ever367 3 года назад

    this was hilarious. thank you so much

  • @va7oloko
    @va7oloko 4 года назад

    Hey Ryan. So I came about a 600ft 11mm static rope. My intention was to get a 45m 10mm for rigging and as a backup to test fall on pro but I got the 600ft 11mm. I'm planning on cutting it into multiple lengths. What do you recommend as far as useful lengths? I was thinking of 45m for rigging and maybe a 70m for hauling... Is 70m length standard for hauling? Thanks in advance for the help

  • @joebusby1
    @joebusby1 4 года назад

    Why would you tie into the anchor with a fig8 (which isn't adjustable) when you could tie with a clove (which is)?

  • @danteharasz3455
    @danteharasz3455 4 года назад

    Check out the jar knot for tying up your 2L jug, it's bomber!

  • @jasonbowers4388
    @jasonbowers4388 4 года назад +1

    Are the butt beads a big wall or highline anchor?

  • @rafaginter8839
    @rafaginter8839 3 года назад

    Nice video👌👍

  • @travisgrimm
    @travisgrimm 3 года назад

    I've been in the Alpine and had to shit in a dehyd food bag. Folder down like that. Totally worked and discreet