It's Time To Re-evaluate the 2013 Audi R8 GT - The Best Kept Supercar Secret
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I love the Audi R8 GT, if you've seen the channel you know that. But every time I have driven one, it has been the Spyder. Will the lighter, faster Coupe provide even greater thrills, or take away a key element of what made the convertible so good?
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I love the older ones, still looks incredible. I prefer the more rounded, less aggressive look over the new ones. And the souuund!!!
Not to mention the old ones had the lovely hydraulic steering and were just about the driving experience when the gated manual was offered. Now the new R8 is a great car on the performance front, however I felt that it got too square on the edges and all around if we’re speaking aesthetics. Yeah, the first gen still have that classy and timeless look to them that will be hard to top.
Future classics for sure
Yeah the OG r8 is elegant and will go down as a timeless masterpiece. 😊
The new gens are way less aggressive…….. literally Lamberty will even say the first gen is more raw and aggressive looking. Wider fenders, more angles, open bumper, full carbon side blades, etc.
@@reecewcrawford5082 Absolutely true, however I was referring to the new design with sharp edges and flat panels, just not my thing.
The 1st gen R8V8 is not only my favourite/dream car of all time. But it’s arguably one of the most timeless and beautiful cars of all time.
The video from Auto top nl reminded me of this ruclips.net/video/UBnq8OniOdg/видео.html
agreed, right up there with the likes of the mclaren F1
And in the UK they’re quite cheap
I don't think it's all that beautiful - appealing I think would be a better word - but it is timeless because they didn't over-style it. It'll never look out of place or odd anyway. I do think the V8 manual is a fantastic drivers car - not so much with the auto. Unfortunately Audi (un) reliability and parts availability will probably be the killer for them long term.
@@Beer_Dad1975I mean, for an exotic, they’re pretty reliable typically. A lot of r8’s are driven hard and they take it for the most part.
Best R8 ever made!! No question!
They look so good with the blades. It made the R8 so distinctive.
The lines of the coupe and the sideblades (a defining element of the R8) are what elevate the coupe for me over the spyder. The sound deficit can be remedied by an aftermarket exhaust (necessary) as was done by the owner of the car you drove.
The face lifted Gen 1 R8 actually have better paddle shifters from the factory. Much better than the standard GTI paddles the older R8s have.
Owned #248, same specs as this one. Only painful part were these bucket seats 😂 the weight reduction in comparison to my current v10 is noticeable.
Do you regret selling it?
👍🤔 Good review as always. But i personally would never be brave enough to actually purchase one of these vehicles !....
Having worked as a car journalist for 11 years (also at the time when the R8 and Gallardo were in production) I can without much exaggeration tell you that the theoretical weight difference between the Lambo and the Audi is purely due to one determining factor: the cocaine the Italian marketeers are on, which makes them dream up wildly optimistic numbers.
I have an independent third party website which is where I get the quotes from, I know better than to rely on Italian numbers!
@@JayEmmOnCars In that case, I stand corrected!
The Lambo press numbers were probably even 'better', then ;)
Ricky has great content on his channel m well worth a look. Cheers for this, fab as always.
Thank you sir!!
Nearly bought a manual R8 V10 a few years back but, and don’t laugh, way too much power for me at the time - the car under flat out acceleration was simply way ahead of me and although I’m sure with time and safe practice I would have adjusted to its performance I just thought not now. Don’t get me wrong I still think it’s a great car despite the somewhat boring cabin
I have a V10 manual - cabin is boring as standard but there were several options in seats and interior carbon fiber trim which sharpen it up a bit. I was willing to forgo some of the fancy italian interior in order to get a bigger frunk and some storage space behind the seats. With a valvetronic exhaust and gated manual its a hard car to beat for the price tag.
Too much power? hehe The Quattro AWD keeps you from looking like a Mustang or Charger owner and wrapping it around a tree. Its not a scary car to drive at all. Unless you are new to driving, then I can see why it would be intimidating.
“Boring cabin” = still functional and looks decent years later.
Cmon mannnn
@@STORM3SHADOW I’ve had fast Audi Quattro’s before - RS4 and a couple of other Quattro models so am very comfortable with four wheel handling but when I weighed up whether I really needed the acceleration performance of the V10 the answer was no. I’m not a rookie driver, far from it and today happily drive a Porsche Carrera 4S amongst others but 9 years ago decided not to buy it. There’s a saying that we usually apply to Pilots but equally applies to car drivers “there are old drivers and bold drivers but no old bold drivers” meaning you don’t live long by being bold out on the roads. As a pilot it’s written “there are old pilots and bold pilots but no old bold pilots”. I’m sure one could spec the cabin better but it did look very familiar to the TT at the time. I did enjoy the manual gear change though
Great review! I can also vouch for Ricky's geo changes. I've got a whole video filmed (but not edited) for that... Now I might have to get Ricky to Dyno mine 😳
Hahahaha let me do it! The gear shift afterwards is 😮😮😈😈
Nice one, love it as always. I like your perspective on this, especially with the understeer issue.
Though, I also love every time you mention your 'long torso'. It reminds me of Alan Partirdge's 'fat back' 😅
Another great review, JM is definitely my most watched channel by a mile these days keep it up!
Id certainly heavily consider upgrading the cayman R to one of these, but can’t fit it in the garage 😑
But seems a good reason to move house 🤣
you have to drive a BMW v10 m6 with the SMG, everyone wants a manual but the smg shifts on M mode dsc off 6th level shift speed are insane. only happens when you're pretty much flooring it and above 7500 RPM. most people who review them don't redline because of bearings them so they never get talk about the best part.
I’d love to do a word count on your videos - you certainly don’t scrimp on your narrative, which is excellent and gives you a really good feel for exactly what you are thinking and feeling. Well done sir
I am a huge fan of the GT despite the polarizing R-tronic. I would definitely do a manual swap if I bought one though. That would be the perfect Gen 1 R8. Although mine is already pretty ok too.
Thats a cool 15k for a trans, if you even find one.
We have converted a GT to manual!
That gearbox would still put me off, it's not so much I hate two pedal driving it's the fact I absolutely love changing gear. It doesn't matter if I'm crawling around or going a bit faster, changing gear is a massive part of the driving experience for me. I've been driving 30 years and it still hasn't got old.
I love it when you are really enjoying yourself James!
‘Back of gardening glove’ had me laugh out loud. 😂
I drove an R8 GT Spyder back in 2019 for just a little bit but it was enough to understand what a car it is. Mega car, probably going to shoot up in value.
Really enjoyed that, thanks! I've always liked the R8, and I've got a theoretical list of cars I want to own (2nd hand)....
MX-5, Porsche Boxster/Cayman, then came the Lotus Evora/Emira, but maybe this should replace the Lotus on the list!
Evora will be cheaper to buy and run... but this is a more special thing. That V10 wailing to 8500rpm is one of the best sounds of the twenty-first century.
List is a list, you can always have both on it 😂
Just replaced a 2021 Lotus Evora GT with a 2012 R8 GT. Wouldn't go back! The Audi does understeer a bit and I will check into better settings as I got used to the Lotus superb handling. The sound is awesome, but this one did come with a custom exhaust fitted. The shifting is just fine and very responsive. I have the kit to make it a gated 6 speed. We'll see.
@@justmusing2569 Interesting, I just cancelled my reservation for a Lotus Emira because I got me a 2013 R8 GT. I bought it over the Emira because of the engine (noise) and because I believe that the R8 GT will hold the value better than the Emira, price wise about the same. And they are both great cars to drive ...
The rest of the video became background noise after you described the door trim as 'back of gardening glove'. Howling with laughter I was..!!
Crazy heavy even this version. Dont know how they do it 😂. Thanks for the great video as usual
It is not that heavy by today standards.
@@krichd1 perhaps not by todays averages no, but compared to some other options of the era and certainly before hand it's pretty chunky
5:50 I don't think anyone says the word 'thousand' with such expression. True showmanship to it
Anyway, the R8 in any form remains a head turner. It's arguably good that they're available at different price ranges, especially as insurance gets costlier lol
Great review as always, but I promise you that finding one for 70-90k £ is not possible in the US.
I dont know... the gearbox killed it because, at that time, that year, it was not the best.
Now, it is only a part of that era, a wider time-scope and it does not matter that much as it is not competing anymore.
There was an v10 manual... they should have used that.
Those narrow British country roads, the low placement of the camera all add to the sensation of speed.
Nice video as always, as you've reviewed all three how would you compare to the v10 manual and also the ferrari 360 as i have a 360 and have considered both the v10 but never driven one?
The Mk1.5 Audi R8 may be the ideal daily super car eh?
The best car channel on RUclips 😀
Thanks J! 🙏🙏
First gen V8 one of these is my aspirational dream car.
What a symphony
It's nice, but reminds me of a kitchen appliance. The Ferrari 458 has been the best looking modern supercar. Even then I'd prefer the Magnum P.I. car. Good video, cheers.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this car goes up in price 😊
This is one of my dream cars, but would you choose it over the 981 gt4 or a gran turismo mc stradale? If only this had a manual gearbox option. I like how the coupe looks more than the spider plus you can see the engine
You've done many videos on the R8 and it's well past time you got one. Just do it.
I still prefer the Gen1.2 R8 Competition edition🙌. Just the fact you get the better Dsg and 570hp 5.2 V10🙌
This in Samoa Orange is perfect. Shame there aren't many R8 GTs around.
33 coupes and 33 Spyder were released in the UK!
Its a shame the new r8 gt wasnt as good as this one
This one they actually done some mechanical changes not in the new one just stuck some stickers and wings on it
Yeah the new GT is a Gen 2 with body parts!
The original GT was very different to standard car!!
Nice car! Please do lots and lots of 550 content! 😁
Gorgeous looking cars
'Back of gardening glove' 😂
Brilliant video.
Oh, that sound 🥖
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Lamborghini quote dry weight so when you add fluids and fuel the R8 isn’t that different, I believe it’s the same with Ferrari too
What are your thoughts on manual conversion for the GT?
We have done a manual conversion on a GT!
Interesting that you class this as the last of the original pre facelift cars when the GT has the facelift bumpers, splitters, mirrors which are essentially what the facelift was ( barring the lights).
The GT engine was essentially std but revised airbox and tune. The 2013 cars got the revised 570PS engine which was limited in the R8 ( until the true swan song mk 1 LMX) so a 2013 R8 Plus which is also lightened ( but still 30kg heavier than a GT) with 570PS ( once derestricted for £400) and costs £20k less ( money to spend with Ricky), and without the lame gearbox, makes a very compelling argument
A Gen 1 Plus isn’t special like a GT though! Very different cars!!
@@REPerformanceUK not denying its special. Just a bit too subtle. Ive worked on R8s since 2005 and owned one for 10 years yet I still don't know much about what's in a GT? If I don't know then I doubt the market knows much either. Blame Audis marketing dept😉
@@robertcorbishley1712 every owner I know knows exactly the difference between an R8 and a GT…..
@@REPerformanceUK exactly.
The older the berry the sweeter the juice: the older the sports car the better it trills with better analog driving experience, new cars are all about speed, fake or muted engine sounds at best with the same exhaust…..a mapped in pop and bang. In a city with 20mph speed limits buying new fast car is as good as pissing in the wind 💨
JayEmm if you ever go back to audi, can you try to get the audi r8 v12 TDI concept please :)
Is this one of the generations of R8 with the front frame cracking issue?
No only on crashed cars!
When he says it's started to rain.... I didn't see any.
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I do like your channel a lot and am subscribed, but there's just something about your "presenter voice" that rubs me the wrong way. It's very old school top gear, and your cadence is quite similar to Jeremy Clarkson. I've heard you speak more normally and it's not like this at all. It's obviously working for you, I just personally wish you could tone it down a bit and speak more naturally.
It's difficult to give feedback like this without sounding rude (not my intention,) but there's no easy way to get around that. I'll continue to watch regardless, just something to consider. All the best.
We know this car very well 😉
Do you think you will ever cover the legendary E63 M6?
One day I hope
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NeRly bought one but still need 4 seats occasionally so bought an S4
The GT gearbox is just awful and a complete fail! It continuously likes to change gear itself heading into a roundabout for example even when you’re in Manual. The car feels very heavy all round. I looked at changing the gearbox to manual but one garage wanted 15k and with some garages offering 50-55k on a part exchange with mileage under 20K, it’s just not worth it!
Weird to hear about the understeer, when there is no longer an engine overhanging at the front.
Not much weight over the nose and set up deliberately to understeer.
Journalists gloss massively over suspension geometry and its effect on a car. Take a car, apply another degree of camber, it's a different driving experience.
I’d Prefer a Spyder, but I want a 550 and an F12!!!!!
Im really surprised at the price .
These cars spend more time in the garage for repairs than they do on the road
Two words of warning , The Audi R8 as no Euro NCAP rating and are bad in accidents at low speed just search on the net, the engine detaching from the rear the second MK 2 version had a new carbon fibre stronger panel behind the seats between the engine. Also a strange one a number of Pro footballers had them and had leg problems during the season ? Seating position and pedals or positions of them ended up not driving them or selling them.
Half of all Audi models at that time had no NCAP rating.. Not just the R8 but A5, A7, A8. It was not mandatory. There is no evidence of these cars being vulnerable in accidents. On the contrary. The space frame was designed and built for racing.
@@mycameras6814 www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2627592/Audis-misleading-crash-test-boasts-German-car-giant-claimed-models-including-100-000-R8-five-star-ratings-never-actually-tested.html
04:20 😂
How many R8 reviews have you done now?
Quite a few... but fair enough, it's a brilliant bit of kit.
gotta get all of them versions,
@@richardharrold9736 definitely! I was just curious as to how many James had done…
@@cj09beira never tiresome… I prefer this one to the soft top
It sure does sound better through the shifts than any DCT. I just loathe how DCTs make cars sound with thos stupid farts and engine sounding like a CD player that skipped a beat.
LFA, Scuderia and R8 GT just sound great thanks to slower shifts, almost like a manual car would.
People just got stupidly blinded by specs and speed and it ruined what matters. First complete loss of manuals and then hedious sounding cars rushing something that shouldnt be rushes. Its lile rushing a musician so the start messing up playing too fast skipping notes and feeling too nuff to the ears.
I had the pleasure of driving a 2011 V10 manual...so sweet. Never driven the paddle one, but I wouldn't want one. Period.
I actually think the V8 version sounds better than the V10.
Each to their own, but 5s and 10s are very "quattro"
No hate from me I love your channel, but does the R8 actually need revisited? This is like your 10th time driving one lol
First time driving a coupe GT
If you listen carefully, that engine screams money. And should they make an RS3-gt convertible
9:55 that loud roaring will cost you here a fortune as fine cause due to new regulations you have to avoid any noise that is avoidable. Rev it up and a house is in the vicinity or any people you are screwed, and the police confiscates the car first, then lets it investigate by an engineer and then the whole bill comes to your home with a lot of mandatory requirements to fullfill regulations.
Therefore game over for ice in Europe cause EV are a lot more quiet, also insurances will explode in 10 years when the spare part prices for old ice cars will explode cause these are already planned in the budgets of the manufacturers, when to start and how much. Cause there will be a point of no return, when they know that every ice car sold will cost them money. And that point in time is coming nearer and nearer and even faster which means there will be a point when suddenly all will stop their production
If you do not believe it let me know why all the small and cheapest cars have suddenly all disappeared, those 7999 € brand new cars from dealers incl. AC and some extras. and there were a lot available just 4 summers ago, now you find nothing.
Where's "here"? Sounds like a police state.
u know bmw and porsche fan boys love to hate on the r8. Understeery, heavy, audi brand blah blah, but look at it, those dont even have a single supercar (entry or not) with charm that can compete in the same price range. Yeah BMWs are fast but it's never special experience with the engine in front. And until the xdrive M cars are out recently, it's nothing but spinning tires on social media. Porsches it's never special until u reach the gt cars, and even then none of them sound as good as the v10. Had 6 911s (9967.1, 997.2, 991.1, 991.2, 992) and none of them was able to stay in the garage more than a year (while the 981 stayed for 6 years, the 718 4.0 not even a year), until I settled with the gt3rs as the charming one. 9 years with the r8 alongside ferraris and lambos, I didnt know the gt is that special with all the bits. Even my base v10 is one of the best cars ever owned overall
Thing is, the R8 ISN'T a Supercar! 'Supercar' is an ironic, sarcastic term coined in the 70's/80's for expensive cars, that were all about how they looked, while being impractical, unusable, and unreliable...the R8 is none of these things, and should be appreciated because of it!
Great car which has now ended production. Good bye R8!!!!!!!!!!!
Sexy car.
Those are not cheap or Boxter money 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 find me a r8 GT under 120k USD please and thanks
Your obsession with the R8 is becoming unhealthy. The R8 in any incarnation is at best an entrance into the supercar world.
For someone who believes that a 911 isn't a supercar, while leaving objective reality behind to praise the lowest level of supercar, you clearly need your head checked.
The other point I would like to make is that your bias really dwells on nostalgia. The old cars of your youth really don't cut it anymore when it comes to reliability, performance and - yes, let's go there - style. Behave, will ya.
Bizarre comments about nostalgia. The R8, inc Gen 1, is one of the most reliable supercar ever built. Performance, you are somewhat correct on paper but driving enjoyment is not on paper. Modern supercars do not have the noise, feel and drama of the analogue supercar. If you just want performance, buy a Plaid. And finally your last point on style... Not only is that highly subjective but I think most people would agree that cars like the Countach, F40 etc are special today despite their age (and yes, also lack of performance.) So with 1/2 point out of 3 and a rather mean spirited attitude, I suggest it's you who needs to pay a little visit to the head doctor.
the climate controls are the same of my mothers 2018 A1... its just an audi... nothing much...
Chavvy carbon bits and paddles. Grim. Hardly a 'best kept secret'.
being lighter is great, wouldnt care, with the choice, manual all day
Yes, but being an AUDI is it's main problem.
Could be worse. Could be a Ferrari.
@@richardharrold9736
That is such an absurd response.
@@fugeefaceentropy7008 nope. Ferraris are almost invariably driven by pricks (JayEmm aside!). Plus the whole company image is just... ugh. Even if I was a billionaire, I still wouldn't have a Ferrari. Jay Leno doesn't have any...
🤔 Yes ,the electronic issues have made these vehicles, and many others from this period, very unreliable !....
lexus is TRASH
Audi's are just so unreliable. And most people will always see them as an expensive VW