In the video I said that the amp settings on both units are identical, which is actually not true; the master volume on the Helix LT is set to 10 (which is the default), and on the MG-30 it's set to 4. Still both amp models sound pretty identical in my opinion. I think the reason for this is that the Plexi model that I used on the Helix has much less gain than the one on the MG-30, and leaving the master at 10 seems to compensate for this quite nicely.
In my opinion and I've been praying since 1984, there's no way in hell I would spend the money that the line 6 Helix ask for when the mg30 sounds as good if not a little bit more clearly to me. I listened through a set of Sennheiser headphones to this video.
I work in a music shop and I was about to get the HX stomp for my gigs with my band. I don't think I needed more than that, but then the MG30 arrived and I was really curious about comparing both. I was really impressed about the MG30 and it was half of the price of the HX. It's been a year going around with it and I'm very happy!! Great comparison! Thanks a lot!
Here is a tip for all the MG30 users,use your Send/Return loop with your favorite stompbox pedal you can use it if you want with it on but turn it off for my tip and use the MG30's amp models and effects and put the S/R block in post position after the Amp block but before the effects tweak the Send level just a little 1db or 2db and the Return level 2 or 3db and you should get a louder more rounder amp like tone that makes your amp models sound thicker more tube like and not so thin sounding!
Nice comparison. I'd have to agree with your overall conclusion. I've owned my Helix for six years and I'm very satisfied with it, but I'm very impressed with what is coming out at a much better price point. The NUX MG-30 is very impressive.
I have the MG-30. 2 of them no complaints. I have a second as a backup. Since I fly a lot to gigs & sessions. And I’m always getting knicked especially flying out of Newark. And the airlines are capped at $1500 damages. So I don’t have expensive anything. I now always make a few hundred bucks when it happens.
I bought a nux mg 30 and it has exactly the same noise as in the video. It sounds like sparks. I could not get rid of it. I decided to return it. My boss gt 1 is almost 10 years old and it has no noise at all. I`m very sad since the amps sounds good and the user interface is amazing.
Thank you for the comparison video! The Line 6 Helix seems to have more upper midrange/treble (as you alluded to at the end of the video). I actually find the MG-30 a bit more pleasing to the ear with the settings you provided. I have the MG-30 and boosted the bass at the output section by about 4 db. This brought a lot of realism to the bass frequencies.
It really depends on how you monitor, thru a PA that low end has to be tamed as too few some headphones but a couple of small studio monitors might be too boomy. But i roll off the output treble which has a similar effect
The video is precise and fantastic! I just learned that when I make my own bespoke sounds or pre-sets that I have long imagined, my beloved NUX MG30 provides great sound. I must admit, though, that the unit's pre-set sounds are of a high calibre, particularly when heard on precise flat stereo monitors instead of the single speaker so called high quality monitor. I've imported pre-sets made by a player by the name of Joko's, and I must say that he has proven to have outstanding talent for creating sounds that are simply fantastic. His expertise with the ears is simply amazing. Anyway, Gerry Tentler has made me even happier because I only paid £260 for my unit, and I'm delighted I skipped the Helix. If the Nux Mg 30 mark 11 had a touch screen and a quad-core CPU, I would definitely consider upgrading, oh and more delays! Lol.
Good comparisson. Both units are Very versatile and in my opinion sounds 98% the same. It all depends on your needs or budget, when it comes to pick just one device. However, both can be used at home recording / producing / practice, and for live using ( however in this topic, Helix wins; more switches) . Nice Job Gerry !!!
What I miss in this kind of testing is the comparison of the clean signal on a comparable amp. So without effects. Because that is where the differences often lie. It is good to ask your fa what you are going to use such a device for. With a recording it all listens a lot more closely than only when using your guitar playing and/or playing together.
You have made the Helix sound bad, in a few clips , that unbearable squelch, may I suggest you make settings in each to sound good not the same dialed in tone but dialed in for best tone in each am and FX
This video is not about getting the best sound of each unit, it's a comparison of them using identical settings and the same IR. I know that both units can sound a lot better with other IRs and optimized settings.
@@GerryTentler yes overall the differences are negligible over the youtube audio and I had a hard time discerning, in fact I thought you mixed up a few files. Lol
What I hear is that the NUX „clearer“. Anyway, I am a long time Kemper player and bought a NUX for a cheap backup. The unit is a bang for the buck. Cool vid mate! Check this sounds ruclips.net/video/v7xOdwwl3B4/видео.html
It's always difficult to compare - because a lot of that is in the settings you use. By default the MG-30 has relatively tamed bass frequencies but quite pronounced 4K frequencies. This can lead to clearer tones in a mix, but might not feel as satisfying playing e.g. alone. if you raise the lows by 3dB its gets more in the ballpark of what we are used to hear. The low end really opens up greatly - believe me it's a night and day difference. Depending on your taste you can then also tame the highs a bit. I often just use the EQ block to draw the 4K frequency down until it sounds warm and nice. Note that the pronounced 4K frequencies also can affect the "gainier" character some see - I often lower 4K up to 7dB... if this high frequencies go unlowered into the amp it will distort the high frequencies quite early. If you lower them to balance it out, it will also be less gainier.
Heard nothing that impressed me. There's something wrong when you can't do a pick slide on any of the high strings like in Freed My Frankenstein. We're being screwed royally.
this kinda comparisons are bs, doest give any real world information. copying setting from one platform to another always sounds like trash, you condemed one of both pedalboars since the first second of the video.
In the video I said that the amp settings on both units are identical, which is actually not true; the master volume on the Helix LT is set to 10 (which is the default), and on the MG-30 it's set to 4. Still both amp models sound pretty identical in my opinion. I think the reason for this is that the Plexi model that I used on the Helix has much less gain than the one on the MG-30, and leaving the master at 10 seems to compensate for this quite nicely.
In my opinion and I've been praying since 1984, there's no way in hell I would spend the money that the line 6 Helix ask for when the mg30 sounds as good if not a little bit more clearly to me. I listened through a set of Sennheiser headphones to this video.
I work in a music shop and I was about to get the HX stomp for my gigs with my band. I don't think I needed more than that, but then the MG30 arrived and I was really curious about comparing both. I was really impressed about the MG30 and it was half of the price of the HX. It's been a year going around with it and I'm very happy!!
Great comparison! Thanks a lot!
Here is a tip for all the MG30 users,use your Send/Return loop with your favorite stompbox pedal you can use it if you want with it on but turn it off for my tip and use the MG30's amp models and effects and put the S/R block in post position after the Amp block but before the effects tweak the Send level just a little 1db or 2db and the Return level 2 or 3db and you should get a louder more rounder amp like tone that makes your amp models sound thicker more tube like and not so thin sounding!
Didn't you just raised the volume of the amp about 3 db?
The Nux can sound can be much improved tweaking with compression and eq to your taste.
Nice comparison. I'd have to agree with your overall conclusion. I've owned my Helix for six years and I'm very satisfied with it, but I'm very impressed with what is coming out at a much better price point. The NUX MG-30 is very impressive.
I have the MG-30. 2 of them no complaints. I have a second as a backup. Since I fly a lot to gigs & sessions. And I’m always getting knicked especially flying out of Newark. And the airlines are capped at $1500 damages.
So I don’t have expensive anything.
I now always make a few hundred bucks when it happens.
How many times has it happened so far?
I ♥️ my Nux MG-30.
Now I can do covers of any style
Good work!!🤘🎸
love mine too ...its an awesome little unit
@@caleshtcincredibles And comes with free extra hardware. It's just absolutely mind blowing.
But I feel little bit thin output, not warm sound
$Aud 430 v $Aud 2699. For my limited home purposes , the Nux works well enough at the price point.
The Hx Stomp is more the comparable unit, not the floor. Our au$ is rediculous atm
I bought a nux mg 30 and it has exactly the same noise as in the video. It sounds like sparks. I could not get rid of it. I decided to return it. My boss gt 1 is almost 10 years old and it has no noise at all. I`m very sad since the amps sounds good and the user interface is amazing.
Thank you for the comparison video! The Line 6 Helix seems to have more upper midrange/treble (as you alluded to at the end of the video). I actually find the MG-30 a bit more pleasing to the ear with the settings you provided.
I have the MG-30 and boosted the bass at the output section by about 4 db. This brought a lot of realism to the bass frequencies.
I did the same and had an 'ahaa' moment
Seems the MG uses similar modelling to the AxeFx than the Helix. Be interested in how it stacks up
It really depends on how you monitor, thru a PA that low end has to be tamed as too few some headphones but a couple of small studio monitors might be too boomy. But i roll off the output treble which has a similar effect
@@bartnettle True! I've since learned how to better optimize the frequencies of the MG30 for my usage.
@@metallica3604 Same here - another thing I've seen is to reduce 4K in a post Amp EQ by up to 7dB for warm edge of break up tones.
I am very happy and satisfied with my NUX MG 30! Bang for the buck!
The video is precise and fantastic! I just learned that when I make my own bespoke sounds or pre-sets that I have long imagined, my beloved NUX MG30 provides great sound. I must admit, though, that the unit's pre-set sounds are of a high calibre, particularly when heard on precise flat stereo monitors instead of the single speaker so called high quality monitor. I've imported pre-sets made by a player by the name of Joko's, and I must say that he has proven to have outstanding talent for creating sounds that are simply fantastic. His expertise with the ears is simply amazing. Anyway, Gerry Tentler has made me even happier because I only paid £260 for my unit, and I'm delighted I skipped the Helix. If the Nux Mg 30 mark 11 had a touch screen and a quad-core CPU, I would definitely consider upgrading, oh and more delays! Lol.
I owned both.. i prefer the nux.. Much more simple and sound really good
Good comparisson. Both units are Very versatile and in my opinion sounds 98% the same. It all depends on your needs or budget, when it comes to pick just one device. However, both can be used at home recording / producing / practice, and for live using ( however in this topic, Helix wins; more switches) . Nice Job Gerry !!!
Incredibly useful comparison!
What I miss in this kind of testing is the comparison of the clean signal on a comparable amp. So without effects. Because that is where the differences often lie. It is good to ask your fa what you are going to use such a device for. With a recording it all listens a lot more closely than only when using your guitar playing and/or playing together.
The amp sim volume and bias makes all diference in MG-30
Pls guys help me to pick the better one among Nux mg 30, Zoom g3xn and Boss GT1. All these 3 fall in almost same budget.
Mg30
Hope you got the Nux
Thanks for the video Gerry! New sub!
How about an old school digitech 2120. With the floor extension pedal.
Live situation : Helix Lt
Recording only : Nux mg 30
Nice review 🔥🔥🔥
I prefer the Nux MG30. If it had midi and XLR outs, it would be VERY hard to beat.
What a great video, thank you! Glad I purchased my NUX MG30 and payed much less than the Helix.
Nux mg30👍👍👍
👍 From 1:15 wau 👍🎸🤟
Both are sounds great, just Helix has more features and connection
can you please recommend me the best among Boss GT 1 and NUX MG 30?
Sorry but I don't have a Boss GT 1.
NUX MG30 ... add your own IR and voila!
Phaser mix 25% why?
upload a vs de mg30 vs helix floor
分かりやすくてめっちゃ素敵︎👍🏻ᴳᴼᴼᴰ︎👍🏻
You have made the Helix sound bad, in a few clips , that unbearable squelch, may I suggest you make settings in each to sound good not the same dialed in tone but dialed in for best tone in each am and FX
This video is not about getting the best sound of each unit, it's a comparison of them using identical settings and the same IR. I know that both units can sound a lot better with other IRs and optimized settings.
@@GerryTentler yes overall the differences are negligible over the youtube audio and I had a hard time discerning, in fact I thought you mixed up a few files. Lol
Nux sounds fatter overall, yet the Helix will sit way better in the mix with no useless frequencies.
The harmonics definitely do come out much better in the nux. Helix definitely has other advantages.
What I hear is that the NUX „clearer“. Anyway, I am a long time Kemper player and bought a NUX for a cheap backup. The unit is a bang for the buck. Cool vid mate! Check this sounds ruclips.net/video/v7xOdwwl3B4/видео.html
It's always difficult to compare - because a lot of that is in the settings you use. By default the MG-30 has relatively tamed bass frequencies but quite pronounced 4K frequencies. This can lead to clearer tones in a mix, but might not feel as satisfying playing e.g. alone. if you raise the lows by 3dB its gets more in the ballpark of what we are used to hear. The low end really opens up greatly - believe me it's a night and day difference. Depending on your taste you can then also tame the highs a bit. I often just use the EQ block to draw the 4K frequency down until it sounds warm and nice. Note that the pronounced 4K frequencies also can affect the "gainier" character some see - I often lower 4K up to 7dB... if this high frequencies go unlowered into the amp it will distort the high frequencies quite early. If you lower them to balance it out, it will also be less gainier.
Nux very good
Heard nothing that impressed me.
There's something wrong when you can't do a pick slide on any of the high strings like in Freed My Frankenstein.
We're being screwed royally.
this kinda comparisons are bs, doest give any real world information. copying setting from one platform to another always sounds like trash, you condemed one of both pedalboars since the first second of the video.
nux has more mids
Awesome!