@@ausfaller Yea, Samsung quality is so high that nothing you can do to their products can be dangerous. :-) You made me giggle. :-) They make great products that last and stay safe in reasonable use scenarios. :-) It's just that trimming a Li-ion battery seems, to me, to be outside that realm...just my opinion :-) LLAP
Hey, im looking into getting one of these but the battery life seems like it would be a massive pain point to me. Has the state of the suspend gotten better in the last year? This video is super helpful!
Has the battery life ever improved since a year ago? I've heard postmarket os has some promising results as a Linux mobile OS and wondering if the power management doesn't completely stink anymore
I really keep wondering why this is so hard? All those problems had been solved a decade ago... Android was kind of better already on the HTC G1... Also SailfishOS manages to have decent battery life AND android app support while being still a proper linux. I guess one of the main issues with the linux community is that everyone develops his own stuff, which is why we also have a million distros...
1. Android isn't GNU/Linux with mainline kernel plus the open source part of it is getting neglected intentionally by Google. 2. SailfishOS's UI is closed source, people can't contribute to it, and can't trust what it does in the background. 3. People wants real desktop/phone convergence. 4. I agree that fragmentation is an issue, but we have to also admit that it comes with options and freedom to choose what suits you the best.
I've been looking into getting one of these. I'm mostly worried about hardware issues, since I imagine software compatibility will improve over time as the interest increases for linux phone distros. How future-proof do you think the hardware is at the moment?
Well that depends on what you are expecting from a linux phone. It will never game or take stellar photos. Will it comfortably run and work as a phone? Most likely.
Improvements have helped such as towboot, but OS progression has stalled massively. Unusable as a phone…the battery life alone is awful across multiple distros. I just don’t see what purpose the device fulfils…it’s a terrible phone, there appears to be some fantastic Linux tab options upcoming…and it clearly is no desktop replicator. It doesn’t do a single thing well.
The last pine phone was garbage but thanks to your review this pro model looks pretty good for me , i need a nethunter phone that i can use full potential 🎉
SD card booting not sim. I use it primarily for recovery if I screw up the internal to bad I boot back to Mobian which is just loaded on the SD card. I don't have a need for an SD card right now when I can't take photos or videos. Otherwise use it for booting to a different os if your daily driving.
Regarding the battery in the keyboard-case: I was under the impression that it could be toggled on/off so that it would not be constantly charging the phone (the product page states as much) - is this an old version or does it just not work?
@@mikeuk1927 I am a total noob and suck at making scripts trying to be more natural in my recording its always a little weird when a camera turns on lol.
At the very end: Trimming batteries to fit....hmmm....what could possibly go wrong ;-) Thanx for making this video. :-)
Honestly what could go wrong? It is a Samsung battery after all....
@@ausfaller Yea, Samsung quality is so high that nothing you can do to their products can be dangerous. :-) You made me giggle. :-) They make great products that last and stay safe in reasonable use scenarios. :-) It's just that trimming a Li-ion battery seems, to me, to be outside that realm...just my opinion :-)
LLAP
Hey, im looking into getting one of these but the battery life seems like it would be a massive pain point to me. Has the state of the suspend gotten better in the last year? This video is super helpful!
I just bought it to support the community, Manjaro are doing great work and it's better to waste 500 euro on them than Samsung or Apple.
Has the battery life ever improved since a year ago? I've heard postmarket os has some promising results as a Linux mobile OS and wondering if the power management doesn't completely stink anymore
I really keep wondering why this is so hard? All those problems had been solved a decade ago... Android was kind of better already on the HTC G1...
Also SailfishOS manages to have decent battery life AND android app support while being still a proper linux.
I guess one of the main issues with the linux community is that everyone develops his own stuff, which is why we also have a million distros...
Isn't it wonderfully. I love options.
@@SillyOmega I do wish that someone would combine the best of all distros into one distro, especially with the basic functional features.
The problem is: Android had a lot of investment. Pine64 does not have a fraction of that, unfortunately. And neither does Purism.
1. Android isn't GNU/Linux with mainline kernel plus the open source part of it is getting neglected intentionally by Google.
2. SailfishOS's UI is closed source, people can't contribute to it, and can't trust what it does in the background.
3. People wants real desktop/phone convergence.
4. I agree that fragmentation is an issue, but we have to also admit that it comes with options and freedom to choose what suits you the best.
Have you tried graphineOS? does it work well on the pine?
I saw that GloDroid works on the pinephone, not GrapheneOS, but still Android.
Does your clock have an alarm with vibrate option?
Nice video. Can you give a link to the keyboard youre using? Thanks.
Also, what browser are you using on your mobian?
I've been looking into getting one of these. I'm mostly worried about hardware issues, since I imagine software compatibility will improve over time as the interest increases for linux phone distros. How future-proof do you think the hardware is at the moment?
Well that depends on what you are expecting from a linux phone. It will never game or take stellar photos. Will it comfortably run and work as a phone? Most likely.
Pine64 said they intend to keep it as their flagship for several more years
@@protocetid I don't dispute that but the specs and current function speaks for itself.
@@ausfaller just saying in case they didn't want to experience FOMO upon the release of a new model
Improvements have helped such as towboot, but OS progression has stalled massively. Unusable as a phone…the battery life alone is awful across multiple distros. I just don’t see what purpose the device fulfils…it’s a terrible phone, there appears to be some fantastic Linux tab options upcoming…and it clearly is no desktop replicator. It doesn’t do a single thing well.
The last pine phone was garbage but thanks to your review this pro model looks pretty good for me , i need a nethunter phone that i can use full potential 🎉
Hot phone in ur pocket is a good sign
😂😂😂 love the introduction
What are some of the benefits of booting off sim vs internal storage?
SD card booting not sim. I use it primarily for recovery if I screw up the internal to bad I boot back to Mobian which is just loaded on the SD card. I don't have a need for an SD card right now when I can't take photos or videos. Otherwise use it for booting to a different os if your daily driving.
@@ausfaller that’s about what I thought thanks! Also my bad typo
Regarding the battery in the keyboard-case: I was under the impression that it could be toggled on/off so that it would not be constantly charging the phone (the product page states as much) - is this an old version or does it just not work?
Bros. Just make me an abdolute brick phone that actually works.
i too enjoy 400$ paperweights
Man, the browser looks so painfully slow. Only reason I wouldn't buy it
Чувак, ты так рассказываешь, как будто уже умираешь. Ты в порядке?
He's just camera shy. Try recording a video and you will see it's not that easy in the beginning xD
@@mikeuk1927 I am a total noob and suck at making scripts trying to be more natural in my recording its always a little weird when a camera turns on lol.
So this thing is not that great.
did you pay custom fees?
God it was so long ago I will check to see if I can find that I am sure I paid a VAT or something.