Cold shoes: There was a study done back in the 90's done by the US military. They discovered that body heat dissipation is high in the both the feet and hands. This led to the study that showed that compression combined with cold packs applied to the palms resulted in core body temp drop. I know of no similar study using the feet but there is no reason why it couldn't be as effective since the bodies reactive process involved is the same. However, I use the term "effective" quite loosely since simply making your hands cold will not result in long term cooling of the core body temperature. In fact, it can cause the opposite effect in long endurance events. In this case, it was not hot... so, I'm not sure there was much of a cooling of the core body temp... and, likely a test for hotter races like Kona.
I want to say I heard this on Huberman, but there have been studies I believe that show the palms of your hands, the soles of your feet, and the forehead are the primary places of cooling. He referenced monkeys, and how those three areas are the only areas on their bodies that have no hair for this exact reason.
@t2ttriathlon en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_cooling#:~:text=Heat%20Stress%20Management,-The%20initial%20research&text=through%20palm%20cooling.-,Dennis%20Grahn%20et%20al.,conjunction%20with%20a%20mild%20vacuum. The link describes palm cooling. However, this method appears to not only be impractical for long endurance events but can be counterproductive because of something called vasoconstriction. Cold palm cooling works only within a narrow list of requirements for it to be effective and not become counterproductive. As it stands, for ultra endurance events, the only advantages seen is application before a race, and its effects only last about an hour at best. Using the palm cooling method midway through a race or during a training session has not shown much of an advantage (if any) and has actually shown increases in body temperature. That being said, I've seen no studies as it relates to foot cooling... so, maybe there is a difference I'm not aware of.
Its worth to remember that in previous years, the Frankfurt bike course was 185km, due to construction repairs around the city. So comparing to the 2018 Frodeno 4h28 bike split, and assuming that Hogenhaug would keep de 44kmh speed, probably he would make a 4h15 bike or so , which is 13min faster than Frodeno. That is impressive, but not as impressive as when in 2017 Kienle rode 4h02 on the same 185km course, which is more than 10min faster than Hogenhaug, but in a 2017 bike
Travel to Germany for a DNF over being tired? Come on Trevor, could just finish for the sport. Jan has walked it in.... am I the only one? If there was threat of injury but being exhausted? First overseas race, jet lag is exhausting, bummer for Foley. Blu is a beast.... watch out Kona.
Either he has the training so dialed in that he is way ahead or he has something in him that is way ahead of all. Guess when he retires we will know. He will win Kona.
Interesting swim stats! So it sounds like Long lost almost all of his swim time on the first lap and then stayed (somewhat) even on the second. What do you make of that?
Actually, maybe I misspoke - he continually lost time throughout the entire swim. It just shows that he really needs to work on his takeout speed - he needs to get in a good pack.
.He finished at 7:27, setting his fastest run at 2:32 in his first IM race of the season while focused on the Olympic distance. Will they try this Norwegian program?
Perhaps they got the training wrong to win the Olympics? Like as if this can't be considered coming from kristian's team, as they are seen as the perfectionist. He allegedly went all in, but I haven't seen him race short course and podium in a long time, and in Paris, he was spat out the back, didn't threat to win at all. Then he smokes a full Ironman off back of olympic distance prep?? Nah, he won ironman frankfurt after training like a middle to long distance athlete.
Yeah but the training is completely different. You could argue that 1500m and 5000m runners in the Olympics run a lot every week. Probably 160+ km is my guess. But they aren't gonna show up and win an ultra marathon anytime soon.
@@molochz I had my best IM races training more intensity and not doing any IM specific work. 5th Place last year at IM Maryland. Did not do any race specific workouts. Only treshold and 70.3 RP... This totally changed my view on IM "training"
In the history of 10k running - let alone marathon running there has never been anyone with that body shape that has been able to outrun lean 10k specialists such as Yee or any given marathon runner. Yet mysteriously he beat Yee at Tokyo and here at Frankfurt without training specifically he runs the fastest marathon. He’s either the greatest athlete of all time or …. 🤔
@@jb4932 show me a skinny Ethiopian runner that can hang on in a city criterium being as fresh as the bigger riders. Still you don’t seem to understand triathlons is about combination of sports.
In my opinion, he is an arrogant, self-loving athlete, who has yet to prove to be something special. And with this attitude, like shown here in the first capture of this video, and without any respect for the performance of others, which he showed while saying, he wants to change the win in Frankfurt with the Gold medal in Paris, he will never be anything like Frodeno oder Kienle. Great, humble athletes with respect for other pros and amateurs. I don't like him and therefore it's hard to acknowledge his pure athletic performance
Blu is just incredible. Such a beast. It’s hard to wrap my head around what he did right after the Olympics.
Great commentary feels like you’re smiling while talking and it’s nice! KB is a king so happy he went well he deserves it
Thanks Sally! I feel like I dont realize it but I am probably smiling while doing it 😂
This was one of the best commentaries and accompanying videos I have ever seen
Great commentary, brought the race to life!
Thank you for the kind words ❤
So deserved! Congratulations man! So fun watch.
Cold shoes: There was a study done back in the 90's done by the US military. They discovered that body heat dissipation is high in the both the feet and hands. This led to the study that showed that compression combined with cold packs applied to the palms resulted in core body temp drop. I know of no similar study using the feet but there is no reason why it couldn't be as effective since the bodies reactive process involved is the same. However, I use the term "effective" quite loosely since simply making your hands cold will not result in long term cooling of the core body temperature. In fact, it can cause the opposite effect in long endurance events. In this case, it was not hot... so, I'm not sure there was much of a cooling of the core body temp... and, likely a test for hotter races like Kona.
I want to say I heard this on Huberman, but there have been studies I believe that show the palms of your hands, the soles of your feet, and the forehead are the primary places of cooling. He referenced monkeys, and how those three areas are the only areas on their bodies that have no hair for this exact reason.
@t2ttriathlon en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_cooling#:~:text=Heat%20Stress%20Management,-The%20initial%20research&text=through%20palm%20cooling.-,Dennis%20Grahn%20et%20al.,conjunction%20with%20a%20mild%20vacuum.
The link describes palm cooling. However, this method appears to not only be impractical for long endurance events but can be counterproductive because of something called vasoconstriction. Cold palm cooling works only within a narrow list of requirements for it to be effective and not become counterproductive.
As it stands, for ultra endurance events, the only advantages seen is application before a race, and its effects only last about an hour at best. Using the palm cooling method midway through a race or during a training session has not shown much of an advantage (if any) and has actually shown increases in body temperature. That being said, I've seen no studies as it relates to foot cooling... so, maybe there is a difference I'm not aware of.
KB is unreal… wow
Lindars getting on the podium (9:34) is exactly me getting into the car after an Olympic distance race. Incredible how these guys push themselves.
Same!
Its worth to remember that in previous years, the Frankfurt bike course was 185km, due to construction repairs around the city. So comparing to the 2018 Frodeno 4h28 bike split, and assuming that Hogenhaug would keep de 44kmh speed, probably he would make a 4h15 bike or so , which is 13min faster than Frodeno. That is impressive, but not as impressive as when in 2017 Kienle rode 4h02 on the same 185km course, which is more than 10min faster than Hogenhaug, but in a 2017 bike
Ahh thanks for that info!
The 4th event: getting up on the podium for awards ceremony.
Haha yes! I want to put together a compilation of this!
This summer proves that KB belongs racing the mid/long distance tris
I feel bad for Lionel
It’s going to hard to beat Kristian
Barnaby!!! Jolly good show old man! You are the John Cleese of Triathlon
Makes you wonder if the whole industry needs to rethink it's Ironman distance training approach.
Travel to Germany for a DNF over being tired? Come on Trevor, could just finish for the sport. Jan has walked it in.... am I the only one? If there was threat of injury but being exhausted? First overseas race, jet lag is exhausting, bummer for Foley. Blu is a beast.... watch out Kona.
Christian is special. Amazing
Paris was just a shakeout, guy is a machine
.... i like the possibility that Blummy can be part of the TDF, free dopping, Finally!
Either he has the training so dialed in that he is way ahead or he has something in him that is way ahead of all. Guess when he retires we will know. He will win Kona.
Interesting swim stats! So it sounds like Long lost almost all of his swim time on the first lap and then stayed (somewhat) even on the second. What do you make of that?
Actually, maybe I misspoke - he continually lost time throughout the entire swim. It just shows that he really needs to work on his takeout speed - he needs to get in a good pack.
Man the drafting was terrible this race.
20 crashes was insane worst than mount tro.
Solid racing
You can do alot of things with a VO2max of 100. Too much capacity for the olympic distance.
.He finished at 7:27, setting his fastest run at 2:32 in his first IM race of the season while focused on the Olympic distance. Will they try this Norwegian program?
I think his training for Paris lacked INTENSITY. It had a high volume, but apparently low intensity. The legs lacked speed!
Yes, totally think that he might have played it a little too safe
KB was using olympic as speedwork simulation.
These BTA setups starting to get out of hand 😂
Absolutely haha!
Perhaps they got the training wrong to win the Olympics? Like as if this can't be considered coming from kristian's team, as they are seen as the perfectionist. He allegedly went all in, but I haven't seen him race short course and podium in a long time, and in Paris, he was spat out the back, didn't threat to win at all.
Then he smokes a full Ironman off back of olympic distance prep??
Nah, he won ironman frankfurt after training like a middle to long distance athlete.
I also think there was a mistake in preparing for the Olympics. But who am I to analyze this??? "El Toro" is a caged beast!!!
“Kristian will demolish everyone in Kona 2024” - Vanga. 1645 😁
Ill quote you if it comes true ;)
Nutrition????you mean healthy sugar
Hah, yeah fair enough
Who da fudge is Kieran Lindars?
Considering he swims 5-7k daily
bikes a lotta hours weekly
runs a lotta hours weekly
i say this isn't really far from an ironman training. so why not?
Yeah but the training is completely different.
You could argue that 1500m and 5000m runners in the Olympics run a lot every week. Probably 160+ km is my guess.
But they aren't gonna show up and win an ultra marathon anytime soon.
Agree. The volume is there for sure. and there is even a debate on if it’s better with many short than few veery long when it comes to recovery.
@@molochz I had my best IM races training more intensity and not doing any IM specific work. 5th Place last year at IM Maryland. Did not do any race specific workouts. Only treshold and 70.3 RP... This totally changed my view on IM "training"
WazZup 😵
In the history of 10k running - let alone marathon running there has never been anyone with that body shape that has been able to outrun lean 10k specialists such as Yee or any given marathon runner. Yet mysteriously he beat Yee at Tokyo and here at Frankfurt without training specifically he runs the fastest marathon. He’s either the greatest athlete of all time or …. 🤔
It wasnt a strait up run race. Yee have a fatigue his kegs much more on the bike. It’s called triathlon
Yes and a triathlon involves a bike ride - show me a ‘fat’ world class cyclist?
@@jb4932 show me a skinny Ethiopian runner that can hang on in a city criterium being as fresh as the bigger riders. Still you don’t seem to understand triathlons is about combination of sports.
hate this f*** bodyshaming postings so much….
Woke bollox
In my opinion, he is an arrogant, self-loving athlete, who has yet to prove to be something special. And with this attitude, like shown here in the first capture of this video, and without any respect for the performance of others, which he showed while saying, he wants to change the win in Frankfurt with the Gold medal in Paris, he will never be anything like Frodeno oder Kienle. Great, humble athletes with respect for other pros and amateurs. I don't like him and therefore it's hard to acknowledge his pure athletic performance
"El Toro" is the best triathlete in history. Like it or not... He's the G.O.A.T.