Is the new Specialized S-Works Tarmac SL8 still slower than the old S-Works Venge Disc from 2020?

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  • Опубликовано: 12 авг 2023
  • The new Specialized ( S-Works ) Tarmac SL8, the latest hyper-bike released from the company appeared on the market in the past week and was of course timely covered by all paid media outlets and cycling magazines with some good and some not so great marketing driven videos. The best video so far about the bike I have seen by ‪@PeakTorque‬ - highly recommend to watch it, great channel and thanks for the inspiration to actually make this video myself.
    To sum it up briefly, I think it is an amazing bike, would I buy one, yes if I have the money and need a new bike it would be definitely up on my list, I strongly believe it is a superb bike, and I am not only saying that because I have 3 S-Works at home, it seems to be quite common opinion that with a S-Works Tarmac you will get a bike that is amongst the best that money can get you.
    Why do I then think that my old Venge can still be the fastest bike? Have to watch the video to find out. Let me know your thoughts after it.
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Комментарии • 108

  • @nicholastopley7611

    I agree totally, S-Works Venge is the go-to fast bike, real shame they don't make it anymore.

  • @driftnasty1

    I have a Venge S-works and the new Sworks SL8, I can confirm the SL8 is much faster than the Venge. I solved this, it's not up for debate.

  • @kentwong3818

    They already addressed why the rear isn’t as aero, it’s because it doesn’t do anything in the real world. Same with big aero foil down tubes. You don’t have wind tunnel data

  • @TheBarts27

    Thanks for the video. I follow your analysis. Mark my words. The new Tarmac SL9 will be a Venge like bike that will be much lighter but will have the same aero forms/shapes and the new optimized Roval one piece handlebar and speed sniffer. Specialized can do this already but they have to hold back (carbon) tech to sell more bikes. The S-works models are for the pro riders because normal bike riders won't benefit from the small gains. The Pro models are a better buy but how cool is it to buy an S-works. Cycling is the only sport were normal people can buy the same equipement as the pro's. I will stick with my SL7 S-works and wait for the SL9. Bottom line: A venge with high carbon wheels, the new Roval one piece Rapide handlebar and rim brakes will be faster on the Alp in your calculation. ;-) On the downhill I prefer a disc bike (for sure in the wet).

  • @okrakov

    It's 2024 and I just bought a used S-Works 2019 Venge, with original SPEC, I am a small rider (66kg, 164cm) so my size 49 is around 7.4 Kg total (Vittoria Corsa tubeless with 100ml of anti puncture liquids included)...I am so so happy to have this bike, first 2 rides were amazing! The bike is far better than a Trek Madone 2021 I used to own in almost any aspect...and it costed around 3.5K USD only, No Sl7 or SL8 could beat the value Vs. performance as far as what I think, could not agree more on this video which points exactly what I thought when I was searching for more than a year to find the Venge specifically, thank you dear Volker for this video.

  • @Egsgaard10

    Great comparison👌🏻😊But maybe the SL8 will win over the avenge looking at handling…? I have the SL7,and is thinking of changing to the Venge…..😎

  • @rskng

    You're probably right that the Venge is a tad quicker for the average rider. Especially ones who are not doing 45km/h brakeaways as the Venge tube shapes work better in higher yaw angles. At 45km/h, where the yaw angles are mostly from the front anyways,, I believe the SL8 is a bit faster. I have the venge for three years and now bought the SL8 but not for weight or aero, as they are almost a rounding error difference, but for the handling part. I have tried the Aethos and on decent,s it's just unbelievable. And this is what I'm looking for in the SL8. If I can get the Venge level aero with Aethos level handling I'd be over the moon.

  • @robertphillips3078

    I own both SL7 S-WORKS & SL8 S-WORKS. The SL8 is faster & a liitle more comfortable. I own ×3 sets of the original 51/60 Aero Wheelsets @ 1400 grams . Obviously set up as clinchers with light TPU Tubes . From all reports the the Venge just beats ur body up after 2hrs . Hate the new 1520 gram tubeless. Wont ever see me purchase them .

  • @JamesHsieh0512

    When u can spent less carbon to built a bike and claim its faster. Why go back to old design 😅. Especially a Venge Pro frame are much more cheaper and the profit is lower to the new one 😂. I always say the Venge Pro is the most valuable bike that Specialized ever made.

  • @tccycling

    “I don’t think from the look of it it’s more aero”. Very scientific.

  • @StephanBechert
    @StephanBechert 28 дней назад

    sehr gut hergeleitet Volker. Dank deiner Ausführung hat mein VENGE an Wert für mich gewonnen. wobei mein liebstes Rad das AETHOS ist, weil mir das VENGE viel zu steif auf langen Ausfahren ist.

  • @DVLSENGN

    I have a venge with 6.5kg with pedals garmin lights and bottle cages.

  • @arunabasnayake5258

    I really like the shape of the Venge!

  • @Eken08YT

    Much helpful shared experiences as I ponder whether to complement my SL6 Pro with a Venge Pro to explore the differences in ride experience or drop the SL6 in favor of a new SL8.

  • @dhirajmasandful

    Brilliant insight, request if you can share your thoughts on weight reduction of SL8, especially when one sees the BB area carbon, conventionally they claimed beefier the BB more power obtained with bare minimum flex. Now they have skimmed the BB more to reduce weight of the frame, would there be a loss of power due to flexing and loss of rigidity. Thanks.

  • @024hellokitty

    You are right

  • @cyclingschannel

    Yeah!!The venge is faster for sure!!Even older venge with rim brakes like venge vias!!!

  • @RoquetteAttaquer

    I don’t like climbing bike, I’m always like aero bikes, I sold my sagan venge and bought the Canyon Aeroad CFR MVDP (white edition) with Dura Ace. Never regret

  • @inakilrg

    Thanks for this analysis, Volker!

  • @hammerridecycling7630

    can you make a video about elves falath evo.thanks