Merits of ST Demand & Escalation of Violence in Manipur | The Lungleng Show
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The host and Mr. Kahuto Chishi discussed at the Lungleng Show on the merits of Meitei's Scheduled Tribe status demand in Manipur, and the furtherance of violence due to it.
Disclaimer: we don't endorse any party but simply deliberate on the framework and process of scheduled tribe recognition. We both pray that violence comes to an end asap and take their fight in the court room instead.
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Manipur solution was separate adminstration for Kuki trbal
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@@wetshetethopi9880it's literally mentioned in the video 🤦🤦🤦 Er.khetovi complex 7th mile, chumukedima
Pliz my dear naga brothers the present fight is mainly related with illegal poppy cultivation and illegal settlements by the immigrants kukis rather than tribal status demands. We have never ever dreamed that our kukis brothers will ever attack us so ferociously.
"The world is bad not because of bad people but because of the silent of good people "
😊
And also because of few evil people the whole society suffers!
Thats a positive response to this crisis!
The good people doesn't want to hurt the sentiments of the bad people, so they keep silently during the whole time until their death😂
In 21st century few people listen when good people speak
@Nirvana destroying all the hills my Lord where did that came from?🤣🤣
Give the capital and facilities that you enjoy to kukis and take tha ST status if you want to.
Easy politics makes easy life. Dont kill, coz you are killing your own brother and sisters!
@Nirvana that is the reason why we r called the schedule tribe because we r more backward than u guys are. I thought u were listening at their conversation!
Who else wish , Sir GB kahuto chishi to be the chief minister of nagaland?
Nobody.
Almost everybody ✌🏻
@@mehroseemehrosee3887 Rio's Dog
Maybe somebody including you....would love him but public still loves Rio😂🤣🤣
To be CM it's not only about good speaking or positive mentality...
It is really sad to not have Sir Kahuto as a leader ...
He totally deserves to be our CM .
LEGEND.
Manipur solution was separate admiration for kuki tribal
Need money power 😢
Very good channel. As from delhi , its difficult from outside to know exact and intensity of issue. Now the issue very clear to me.
Bravo to channel for unbiased talk and discussion 👍
"when the good people keep silent, the bad people take over" ..
Well said ! I will remember it through out my life and its happening in Manipur now..
So calm and collected and not blaming anyone or speculating on anything. Discussing the issues very neutrally
Love to listen to such discussion ❤
i wish we have this kind of show in Mizoram. most talk show in Mizoram is only in Mizo languauge that too mostly concerning entertainment industry
Very true .. why ?
This is one thing I respect our Nagas, our English may be good or bad but we still try to reach out to everyone thus speaking in English. But Mizos and Manipuris usually do the opposite of speaking only in their dialect, there is nothing wrong in doing so but when you do that you are restricting yourself to just that specific group of people. Even in none political grounds like singing, rapping, etc Mizos and Manipuris just stick to themselves by singing in their local language, dude there are lots of hidden talents in Mizoram and Manipuri but the sad thing is they will remain hidden because of themselves.
@@Yao686 true, the problem with hosting a talk show only in our dialect is that our voices do not go beyond our communities and geographical boundaries. We need talk shows and news in English and Hindi as well
Zonet chuan mizo tawng chuan anti ve a, mahse hetiang hian an ti free ve lo a. Knowledge a free loh chuan hmasawn a har dawn ani.. appreciation to lungleng show for enlightened the masses 🙏
@@jamesn8070 zonet hi a buaithlak, an content an ui lutuk a, cable TV ah vawi hnih thum an broadcast tawh chuan upload ve mai thin tur ania. member only content an ngah mah mah. hmani ah member nih ve ka tum a, a gpay theih thakloh zui a, credit card lo chuan a harsa
Two intelligent people in one frame. So much admiration 👍🏻
We need more educational podcast and talk show in Nagaland . This broaden the minds and visions of our local people.
The punchline from Sir. Kahuto Chishi was phenomenal. Truly only saint from Nagaland❤
He is actually talking about SANE the opposite of insane and not saint..
SANE not saint
As a Punjabi who is trying to learn why my brothers are fighting in Manipur, this was very informative. Thank you
Half information is not enough for better understanding n judgment.
@@BeKindRobin who asked you
@@rufzzzyamasaki8429 what is your problem
@@BeKindRobin share us the half information.. 😊🙏
@@JacksonKon share us the half information..
I don't know what's your point here?
You mean Ak 47 was invented in Russia..
Well I got you.. 😊
Thank you..!
Last words by Sir. Kahuto :- Kuki and Meitei brothers should build bridges. They should fight in the court, not on the streets.
Violence should be averted but people have the right to Express opposition to it. .
Noney district, tamenglong district, senapati district have conducted peaceful rallies against the meiteis demand
@@badass6954 bingo but that wasn't reported in the news
@@trashcustrashford9001 yep. Their media is shamelessly one-sided.
Yeah I think so
All this is happening because of reservation. Abolish reservation and reservation should be on economic basis.
I support kuki ❤️long live kuki from Punjab north
Why? Have any idea about Manipur? Illegal kukis are capturing forest land & start war unnecessarily. Meitei people are tribal it's the truth.
Vishal do u have brain ..
@@frommars-sl8iv APPEAL TO ALL MY FRIENDS
No matter who you are,
What's happening in Manipur might be confusing for all of you.
There's Just One thing I want you to know.
The issue is never about RELIGION,
The National Media is twisting this issue into
Christians vs Hindus
So, I urge you to not believe anyone or anything you see if they are portraying the Issue into a
RELIGIOUS matter,
It NEVER IS and NEVER WAS!
Thankyou my friend❤
@@frommars-sl8iv hey! Meitei s aren't tribal.
Late Suisa Rungsung, a Visionary former MP, who later became a Member of the Naga National Council (NNC) once asked and pleaded with Meiteis to accept ST Status. He was humiliated and spat on by Meiteis.
"Ekhoi Hao macha, Hao pang natte" "Eikhoise amaangba mi natte"
Translation: we are not Hao, and not foolish like you or Hao means backward, foolish, Untouchable to Meiteis. We are not lost, man."
Suisa was dejected but tried again speaking to the Meitei Maharaja of the then, but he was meted with a strong warning and dire consequences if he further pursue the matter among Meiteis.
Suisa wept and wrote in his diary
"One day these people (Meiteis) will demand ST status by then, it will be too late to undo things that are achievable now"
No doubt, the present drama pouring out by Meiteis and its HC to grab the tribal rights and most importantly tribal land is an SOS call to unite the tribals to fight for our rights.
Your conversation is very enlightening and had shed so much hope for me personally on the way the Northeast is heading. It is so encouraging to know that ppl from our side are capable of rational and sensible thinking.
Sir Kahuto Chisi iz wise leader,,,,,we Tribalsz Need a great, brave,and wise leader like Kahuto Chisi,,,,,,,☮️💐💐💐👍👍👍
I really admire & respect GB Kahuto Chushi!!! For his brilliancy. Not forgetting LS.
Sir kahuto is really knowledgeable and a true leader we nagas need to keep him safe..
So good to see Sir Kahuto Chishi back!
What an intellectual conversation.
"I don't think any Hindu community in India claims General, OBC and SC status at the same time". This speaks volumes.
Assamese, Nepali, Bengali, Bihari and many more... General is not a quota BTW... Even you can compete in General...
Very well spoken, wise thinking and pretty decisive. Got the vid randomly on my feed , watched it and it was worth it. I have so many friends from all the tribal communities and it just saddens me how the system keeps breaking the equilibrium that was created for good, getting innocents killed with political agendas should be really looked into and stopped. I will pray for things to calm down . And we live together peacefully towards eternal happines.
Loved to listen to this kind of prepared show.
When two educated people come together they discuss not only the problems but focus more on logistics and solutions.
Who the hell dare to call Sir Kahuto Chishi Sumi as madman? Maybe they or those people are jealous of his wisdom and knowledge for sure. Sir Kahuto Chishi Sumi is the most respected mam in Nagaland.
Eagerly waiting for the next show with Sir Kahuto Chishi Sumi
I strongly opposed kahuto chishi sumi to consider us "meitei" as brahmins, sudras,khetriya... Meitei community is also a tribe which has its own script, language and, history.
@@malem-s3i hey bro get to the point ..you n your people are just jealous
@@imkumpongen4764 you people are the one who is jealous of us getting the st status
@@imkumpongen4764 brother I am talking about some of our Naga People calling our Respectable Sir Kahuto Chishi Sumi as madman .... Because those people are jealous of Sir Kahuto Chishi Sumi for his bravery, wisdom , knowledge and honesty .
@@malem-s3i he's speaking the truth💀
Awaited conversation ❤❤.
God bless you Sir Kahuto GB and not forgetting Lungleng Show
I respect kahuto knowledge.
Meeteis called us Hao (Backward) and rejected ST in the past, they proudly said they are civilised and not isolated and enjoyed political prestige. Now they want ST,now who is the real Haos now. Like a kid.
Lies, we called you hao because you call yourself hao...
Why you have names like Haokip, Lunhao, Haominlun... Why you add hao in your name?????
@@KonkonponponsonsonLel..what a reasoning..!Hao in our name in our language didn't give birth to your Meitei word Hao..lol what about Nagas then?You call them Hao too..are u now gonna say Nagas are Haokip,Lunhao?And what even is Lunhao?
@@Selung2410 Kabui, Tangkhul, chingmi???
@@Konkonponponsonson yeah..u said u called us Hao because of the Hao in our names like Haokip,"Lunhao"..them what about Nagas?
@@Selung2410 we call them Nagas😂
This is what I call a great talk. I learn a lot from this talk show. TQ👍
Thankyou Lungleng show.. For bringing GB kahuto chishi to your show...
Good show plus sir kahuto is very intellectual n factual.
I am compelled to join it.
Regarding criteria for ST
Meitei fulfils all the five critereria and approved 7 years back by ST Commission Delhi. The present requirement is recommendation from the state govt which contains socio-economic report and ethnographic details which have been delayed by the government. Secondly, Meiteis are not Aryan or real Hindu who do not practise varna system. Only Bengali ethnic people who had assimilated themselves to Meetei Brahmans. We dont have kshetriya, Sudras or Vaishya.
Masses of Myanmar origin can avail Aadhar and ST of Manipur. Why not we to save our land with constitutional protection.
In Nagaland, there is equality with a single law .
And tribal can own land in the valley of Imphal. A valley people cannot own a piece of land in hill.
Such system is not seen in Nagaland. A Sumi can own land in Kohima or any Naga can do the same in other district.
However, the intensity of the demand is louder now . God bless all
Lungleng interviewed the best show I watched..Meitei and kuki war started long before but it actually lit up today.
It's a very admirable thing of you Sir Kahuto for seeing you speaking without any bias.. Thank you and may God bless the Lungleng show..
God protect kuki from this evils
I tell this once again. We failed as a citizen by not electing him to the Nagaland legislative Assembly.
@ye8079MC meitei is not a tribe how do you expect to get ST .....Are you kidding me...hey kid you need to research more on that topic........😂😂😂😅😅😅
This Naga gentleman is completely a foolish person who says,a Hindu can't be ST. In Tripura,DevBarmans who were former ruler of Tripura are ST. In Assam, Bodo Hindus are ST and same is Dimasa Tribe. I can't understand,how such foolish person is invited to offer his speach. There are huge number of Hindu tribes all over India. This fool knows nothing.
True. All the qualified candidates who really can do something for the people are always defeated by those in powers and money.
Nirvana##meitei people are not tribal how could you say this???
@ye8079 This generation dats impossible .....Better luck next Generation 😂😂😆😆😆😆
It’s not Lungleng Show it’s an Excellent Show 💐
You're such an inspiration, Thanks for bringing out the truth,Never knew a day would come where Meitei want to downgraded themselves to backward class like the tribals for ST Quota!
I really admired the wisdom and knowledge of Sir. Kahuto🤞🏻 🙏🏻 huge respect 🤝👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Fight the battle in the Court room not on the street. I appreciate the concern of the Naga People.
You people fight in the street burn many churches kill many innocent life
@@victorkamson7522 are you blind or dumb? Who organised a rally on the street "against HC order"?
Yes No Hindu Society in India demands to be in SC , OBC,GEN and ST too.Mark that and appreciate that too.
@LSingson I was looking for this comment. Thankyou for putting it up for him.
Meitei should have given the message that "We are more concerned about safeguarding our own rights." Than encroaching in other rights.
I really felt it when sir Gb kahuto said "when the good ppl keep silent the bad ppl take over" as we can see while tribal are innocence, meitei take a chance
The best show ever tqsm for bringing intellectual and share the opinion ❤️
I support tribal both Naga and Kukî , pray for Manipur to get back as a normal situation love from Singapore ❤ newsubscriber🤞
Very clear and to the point discussion..... Thank you for clearing the point. 🙏🏻
It is always a Treat to hear from GB Kahuto Chishi..Thank you! the Lungleng show.
Meteis are deadly afraid of losing their land. Biharis are buying Meteis' land. Meteis think, the only way to protect their land is by getting scheduled tribe status.
Where bihari? Illegal kukis are capturing forest lands.
@@frommars-sl8iv Meiteis also captured forest land only😁
Wtf bihari 😂
@@frommars-sl8iv since when meitei and naga are legal
What about Bhil, Gond, Meena, Munda contributing more than 9 crores ST population as against 70 lakhs ST population of North-east... Why Northeast people spreading a lot hatred and anti feeling particularly against Meitei Tribes only...Is that Because of Meitei Tribe not following Christianity...
Well said, "being Indigenous is one and being a Tribal is another" yes, i totally agree, they aren't the same thing. You can't be a tribal only because you are Indigenous.
@@rbungba223 👍👍👍
@@rbungba223you don't seem to be nuanced his statement, tribals are indigenous to the hills as to meiteis are indigenous to the valleys so no indigeneity doesn't guarantee you a status. Your social aspects does
@@puruthaokip5130being from the valley and having kingdoms or civilisation is not an exclusion for ST category either. Tripuris, Dimasas, Bodos etc are all plains dwelling ST. So also STs like Meenas in Rajasthan.
@@puruthaokip5130 your right 👍
What about Bhil, Gond, Meena, Munda contributing more than 9 crores ST population as against 70 lakhs ST population of North-east... Why Northeast people spreading a lot hatred and anti feeling particularly against Meitei Tribes only...Is that Because of Meitei Tribe not following Christianity...
i dont usually comment on you tube videos but Mr Gahuto is so well spoken and i do really admire him, he can easily fit into any important position/post/ designation, i see a leader in him. I wish him the best . Thankyou to the Lungleng show, it may not seem much but you are doing a wonderful job 🙏
I would agree that @Mr Kahuto Chishi can speak very well but he has stated all wrong facts on verdict of Meiteis getting ST status even @Mr Lungleng is also misinformed..... I have proof to what i am saying and you can search this in google it is about an article published by INTERNATIONAL RESEARCH JOURNAL OF MULTIDISCIPLINARY
STUDIES on meitei ST status and what they have said about those 5 points in all points meiteis qualify for being an ST.
The below paragraph are exactly written in the book.
(a). Autonomous religious practices, although practicing the Hindu way of life would not be bar:
it is well documented that Meitei was mass converted into Hinduism in the 18th century and still retain
many themes of its traditional religion and even still many follow the traditional religion, which is a type
animism, pagan, totemic, ancestor worship (Singh, 2011). For example- Meitei believes that Mount
Koubru is the cradle of human origin and here all the god and goddess visit observer their creation. The
Institution of Amaibi-Amaiba (Sherman, Priest, traditional medicine man, etc.), Umang Lai-haroba
(Forest God festival), Chagumba (first solid food feeding to child), etc. still exists in Meitei society.
(b). Marital relationship with another tribe (the majority in the tribe should marry within the tribe
or with other tribes): Majority of the Meitei still married within the Meitei community. Within the same
surname, there is no marriage at all; within the same clan, marriages are avoided; differ clan is preferred
to engage in marriage relations (Devi, 2016).
(c). Distinctive Culture: Culture is a very broad term which is reflected in the institutions,
tradition, arts, dance, dress, etc. of the community. Manipuri dance, Maibi jagoi, leima jagoi, thougal
jagoi, thabal chongba, etc. form of Meitei dances shows its uniqueness. Sports and games of Meitei like
Yubi lakpi, sagol kangjai (Polo), Mukna kangjai, Khong kangjai, Kang sanaba, etc. shows its distinctive
culture from others. Martial arts of Meitei like Tang-Ta, Huyen-lanlong, Mukna, Ta khaosaba, chaibi
chainaba, Arambai, etc. also show in distinctive and unique culture.
(d). Historical and geographical isolation: In the history textbooks of India, Manipur and Meitei
history will not present in any amount as Meitei till the event of British has no connection with the other communities of India. This shows the historical and geographical isolation. Even in present days, the
geographical isolation is soon in regular long term economic blockage by recognised Scheduled Tribes
communities to teach lessons to Meitei tribes from time to time (Lisam, 2014). Most of Meitei are lives
in Imphal Plateau which is above 2000 meters above the sea level. The nearest effective railway station is
561.9 KM (National Highway 2) in mostly mountainous roads.
(e). Social-Economic and education backwardness: According Reserved Bank of India 2015
reports, the urban area of Manipur i.e. area where Meitei lives is the poorest in India (RBI, 2015). This
translated Meitei is one of the poorest communities in India.
(f). Distinctive Language: Meitei language also known as Manipuri language is one of the
language under the 8Th Scheduled of Indian Constitution. UNESCO identified this language as one of the
vulnerable languages of the world (Moseley, 2010). This inclusion in 8th Scheduled of Indian
Constitution and UNESCO identification as one of the vulnerable languages of the world shows the
distinctiveness of Meitei language. Meitei are denied the right to learn their language in the state of
Assam (India), Bangladesh and Myanmar.
I have learned alot from two of you thank you very much God bless you all
They both make things very clear and logic...!!! Salute to Sir GB kahuto Chisi
Love this constructive discussion for this current Manipur issue..💓 from Chennai 🇮🇳💓
Both of you are amazing. I always like to listen to you. You are lively and homely. Continue to inspire us.
Being naga wandering between the 2 clash communities,
This talk sweetens my coffee and understanding 😅
It's a shame fighting for one piece of meat when you have 4 pieces in your plate.
One of the most knowledgeable show I've seen so lately on RUclips 👍💯
I am Naga and support kuki cause they have right to defend their 10:/: share
Yes that's very true #Bro earlier the people see the tribes as inferior and backward but now they want to become ST.
@Nirvana not everyone is involved in this plantation everyone has their own problem keep your own problem to yourself you don't know anything about it everyone has their own problem
@Nirvana we may be short tempered and raw but we also have a heart to love big our Dimag don't plan and kill people.
@Nirvana Meetei Want Kuki and Naga hill land in Manipur.This clear.
@@Huithu178 it's about SC and ST not about Hindu and Christian why trying to escalate the issue.
"I'm the only sane person in Nagaland" punchline of the show😅
He is a great guy but he has this attitude problem. What can we say. He is also a doer. He lives up to his words.
But he will never win elections with this attitude.
@@okay19903 ha ha... Good one...
Kahuto chishi was so wise in giving answers what's been asked, coz he tagged as 'jealousy' of few individual instead of 'scared' generally when it comes to reservation policy... The same thing might occur in nagaland soon due to unequal representation in government department, fund distribution, social and economic development.
It was worth listening to two great men lecturing..... ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Meitei as a community does not have a big population. This is not about being jealous of kukis or being insecure. Our demand for ST is to protect our rights and culture. We don’t have to brag about how rich our culture and identity is to anyone because most of you know how Manipur once was- a prosperous independent Kingdom with its own language, script, culture, dance, dresses, festival, flag, emblems. We want to protect our rich heritage. End of discussion and I don’t think people from other state should comment some half baked one sided narrative on an issue which is creating massive destruction to a state because for one as we all can see from the video itself you don’t know our history and two not your state, not your problem!!!
After owning SC, OBC, being majority and and after all demanding ST for protecting rights and culture is clueless. Moreover, does the KUKI hurt the Meitei's rights and culture? No..i don't think so!!
@@Unikam does the Meiteis hurt kukis rights n identity? That’s a question u need to answer for yourself. OBC, SC? What do we gain from that when 95% of the population belong to the general category! Majority? Where? We as the oldest indigenous tribe of the state is fighting for our rights with everyone. But then again people who started settling in the state from 18th century won’t be able to understand this. Because you turned blind to the long 2000 years of history. Brahmins who? Just because you are one of the crowd don’t jump into the bandwagon and start proclaiming everyone is a Brahmin! Lol cho2 history of Manipur parucho
@@Bluebubsbli don't reveal to others that Meitei are corrupted,,
@@Unikam this is the only thing you can come up with now that you are slapped with the facts. Lol lol lol again. Shhh don’t reveal to everyone that you can twist the truth with your lies. Do you all take a stance “ lets lie till our last breath” when you start all this. Bye take care. Whatever happens truth always wins. Much love
No tribal group should dictate or feel entitled to decide who gets St or not it's upto the Indian administration.
MEITEIS don't need st if an article similarly provided to st ppl wil prevent hill PPL and immigrants from buying land in imphal.
We don't need hill lands. Its underdeveloped with no opportunities, so many tribal law restrictions, Militants and drug issues. Which Meitei would want to stay in hills
Illegal immigrant kukis from Myanmar can get st status while Meiteis that are the indigenous PPL can't get st what a joke. Nagas better check illegal immigrants in Dimapur before worrying about illegal immigrants kukis in Manipur
Biren should resign, these type of conflicts happens only in bjp ruled states.
Then go to afganistan, Pak, Iraq, Iran You can go wherever you want to go. 😂😂😂
@@AshokNagarkoti04 2₹ credited to ur account 😂
@Nirvana well.. we all knw that nothing like this happened while it was under the rule of the wise ones. While all these kind of crisis happen only under a foolish leader who think that they r wise. The most dangerous person are those🤦
@@AshokNagarkoti04 what can we say! It's because we the tribal still want to be on the land where our forefathers fought for while the Meiteis were on the run and even the tribals were the one who rescued ur King while the British invade Manipur. Even in History by the Britishers only the Kuki warriors name were mentioned not a single Meitei. Now who is really the one who deserves to stay!? Whoever wants to stay they may stay and whoever doesn't want to they may stay behind. Thankyou brother/sister. 🙏
Exactly ❤
That was awesome more respect to Sir Kahoto Sumi.
Eagerly waiting for the next show.
Thank you so much for giving such a brilliant talk
There are still many tribals not aware of all this informations.. It is must to share.. ‘Brilliant Talks’!👍
Thank u so much for enlightening us with basics and logic🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
very well said sir kahuto! you really have my gratitude!
love you!
The only candidate of Nagaland with real balls of steel. Dude fears nobody!❤
Kahuto chishi the wise man
I am just wishing both meitei and Kuki talking and sorting and sharing and trying to solve with peace like both of you 🙏🏻 so insightful 👍 educational as well 👍
This is the power of education..thumps up
I've heard lot's about the reason why they fighting....
Thank you so much Boss Kahuto for making the viewers understand everything clearly ... 👍👍👌👌👌👌
Thank you for clarifying this issue, now I know better.
God has blessed Sir Kahuto with wisdom, may he continue to educate the young minds.
I wish Sir Kahuto was my uncle.
I could sit with him in his kitchen & ask him all my doubts and educate myself and equip myself with his knowledge. I don’t even mind 2 to 3 hours of podcast with him. The longer the better.
I agree, it's illogical of Meiteis to demand for ST. I really don't understand why the different tribal bodies of Manipur state are silent on this issue.
Manipur is burning right now. It's gonna be a disaster if we add more fuel now. They are all gonna stand up for sure.
if you understand whole story... please tell me what going on there curious to know???
Government should remove article 371c from Manipur n give some land protection against outsiders thats the only solution left😊
I agree with your opinion.👍👍
@@puthdelonge watch this video again and again, until you understand what they are talking about 😅..
We dont have to depend commentators everytime 😂
Such a great talk show, cool and calm talks with so much logics and reasonable answers without blaming any one, other than the government. So much positivity and good vibes.
Thank u The Lungleng Show
A mature and responsible discussion. Appreciate such shows
I am the only sane person in nagaland relates to the people who are standing for their rights in Manipur. Thank you lunglang show and sir kahuto
N who's right ur referring to.. the kukis or the meeties. Confusing ho🤔🤔🤔
He is brave man, without fear speaking the truth.
We need more like him❤❤❤
@@momonofficialyt yes he's brave but don't u think it not the right time to speak about this when the matter is still hot. It might ignite the fire and create communal clash again. Wisdom doesn't come from age it comes from experience which I think the host lacks it.
@@Zapinfot4 we r not telling about the sakthu Meitei
@@Zapinfot4 talk when it is relevant .. after wards it will be just useless words
I found your interview very informative and interesting. So, may I also share my opinion with you on the ongoing Manipur crisis in the form of a comment:
I have been closely watching the current crisis in Manipur. Actually, the fates of the Manipuris (Meitei) and at least the northern Chins, who identify themselves as Zomi and Thadou inside Chin State, are inseparably intertwined. The Manipur River flows through northern Chin State and enjoins the Chindwin River in Sagaing Region. It, thus, serves as the bloodline for a large part of the northern Chins. In return, the Meiteis' long-term survival as a nation depends heavily on the northern Chins. A vivid example: If the Chins built a dam on the Manipur River in Chin State, most of the Imphal Valley would be underwater.
So, all the people concerned - leaders of both communities and the Indian government - should consider such matters in their attempts to solve the problem. And the two communities should make every effort to live side by side in harmony for their own long-term survival. I am the author of more than 40 political papers on Burma and a 960-page history paper on the Chin-Kuki-Mizo-Zomi people to which I belong.
I have never looked at the matter in this angle. However, I do think that restoring harmony is going to take generations and miracles. Maybe it’s time we part ways, in good terms. And live side by side (cause of the geography), in our own terms.
Just sharing my opinion.
We Sanatani Hindus are an ancient civilization. There are Hindu temples in Authaya Thailand and Cambodia an Champa Vietnam. Evem in Indonesia. We have been in Burma Thailand whole of Asean for 5000 years.Mietis are part of this culture. You have sold your souls to western Evengalists a hundred years ago. You have no right to lecture us on anything.
@@subhranshuganguly2246exactly. And that is the reason why Meiteis should NOT CLAIM ST STATUS.
@@subhranshuganguly2246 And why do you think ST is important to you
@@subhranshuganguly2246 5000 years history and you still need st status? Ridiculous!
Well spoke n was on point n he's well aware of what's going on
Sir kahuto he's not only smart but also well aware of his left n right👏👏 salute sir
Well done,so proud of you,Ran!
love to watch each interview, it's
worth...
Great show.. Amazing talk. Yes Indeed it's a fight against injustice by Tribals
SIGMA MALE KAHUTO AS ALWAYS❤Meitei shouldn't be given ST, They have more than enough and they want more from the tribals. God be with you all my tribal brothers and sisters❤
Your comments sounds right to me in one side..
@@TennyiPhom-zk3hw n wrong in the other side.
What more than enough?
@@jivsvlogs2399 watch what Kahuto had said.
@@StMimin by telling us we have advanced and all .. diverting topic from main reason.
Aren't the naga advanced ? The total population is above 25 lakhs + still considered as st
When the good people silence the bad people overtake it ❤
Huge respect to both of u sir. 🙏🙏👍
The most Unbiased Naga I've ever come across, Sir Kahuto ❤
It was a great broadcasting reveal of interaction and communication and Mr. Kahuto chishi that was great words giving to public, worth with appreciation to you🤗🤗
I am a meitei and I totally support the fact that Meiteis demand for ST is illogical. It is indeed a selfish act of a certain group of population.
No tribal group should dictate or feel entitled to decide who gets St or not it's upto the Indian administration.
MEITEIS don't need st if an article similarly provided to st ppl wil prevent hill PPL and immigrants from buying land in imphal.
We don't need hill lands. Its underdeveloped with no opportunities, so many tribal law restrictions, Militants and drug issues. Which Meitei would want to stay in hills
Menai macha kuki gi mathi chao shkthu
@@nunu12264 ST oijaro....Haothu. eidi oijaningde
@@robningom Kuki na faidork pa oirmmnine shkthu
North Easten states have still a very high literacy rate....and it can be clearly seen here....loved this discussion from Assam
Here GB looks like South Korean uncle 😁
Because of good camera
Hmmm he looks like JAV star .
Hmm you line marieeng our hero huh😂😂😂😂
Women ☕
I m a big fan of Sir GB kahuto chishi at the same time i really like ur show,u both r well educated person ,the ways u both took is another level.
Great discussion I sincerely thank you both host and panelist for your intellect - I am a Meitei. Yes we also sense that we are relatively more advance sensible civilization than the other civilization around us in the history. We have our own script, religion and culture even though many of them were destroyed.
Bear with me, I am trying to decode what is deep root cause of the current issue and trying to put my analysis what future will look like.
Being more advance civilization our forefathers rule the land with open heart, embracing all, respecting all in reasonably peaceful form. I am not saying this out of nowhere, is very clearly reflected in our multiple cultural events existed from many centuries. For example "Lai Haraoba" & "Mera wayungba". Being advance and sensible civilization we were, our forefather was fulfilling the bigger responsibility of uniting people in the kingdom. "Our core value was peace, unity and co-existance".
But some force deceived the Meitei ruler and divide the hill people and Meiteis in their mind and that eventually leaves a deep scar in the heart of hill people. Hill's people heart and mind were filled with hated and sense of revenge in some form since then. This started to manifest in last 4-5 decades from now. The Meitei quietly bear this painful manifestation of hate and revenge considering as the price of the fault their forefather made centuries ago. Still modern Meitei community constantly looking to restore the peace and harmony that used to exist as core value of advance civilization. Every attempt to bring peace and prosperity was hampered by hated and revenge mindset.
In this process under the Indian Constitution, Meitei are degrading their social status and pain turned into wound and opening wider but still hold the hope of uniting again. But unfortunately a small spark in Churchandpur triggered the chain reaction of mayhem. I strongly believe a Meitei wouldn't dare to burn religious church in the Meitei minority district Churchandpur of Manipur for no reason(It is a common sense). Rather I believe this was planted by few miscreants of the majority community people in the district as a hatred mindset manifestation to blame Meitei as spoiler of peaceful rally.
What will future look like - Just like hill people had pain in the heart and mind, Meitei are also having pain from at least last 4-5 decades. This slowly opening the eye and recognizing the absolute need for the revibal of our ancestoral sprit and more importantly stand together more united. This may not be good in this little state.
Although I choose to take side for Meitei. I will still pray for all communities to quickly return to the peace.
Favourite with Kahuto G B👍😊
Separate administration is the only solution in Manipur.
I support you
"Manipur and Nagaland are the most lawless state " 12:43 😂. So true
Sir Lungleng the best director in Nagaland and sir Kahuto the best actor (John Wick)... We've learned a lot.
War prevent human from thriving. Manipur was so peaceful despite ethnic diversity. People from across the world look at us in wonder how we thrive together. Manipur are advancing far ahead comparing to their neighbouring states. Most of the Northeast bureaucrats in this country are from Manipur. Every year people from this state put their names in UPSC, SSC and All India competitive exams compared to those people in the neighbouring states. Varieties of talents have originated from Manipur including in sports. Scientific farming started flourishing. We have started experienced more in using our resources. Vlogger are thriving. Old people are happy. Young people dreams high. We are well cultured people. We have more important things to do than this trivial mindset. Manipur have a potential to excel in so many ways. So I appeal to everyone to let this conflict end at once so that we can thrive together again
It's easy to say that when the problem does not your door and requires your immediate intervention to save yourselves and your loved ones.
imphal city will go back to 20 yrs again...no one will dare to work in imphal valley anymore
why 10% of land for meeteis, because before the Independence of India, Meeteis kingdom was just in the valley, very fertile land, and Tribals were not under them, but Bristisher clubed tribal lands for their administrative purpose. Meeteis considered tribals as Lost People or unclean (mangba in their languange). Kukis invaded Nagas Hills land and occupied and now meeteis wants to encroach our lands. We are happy and supportive of illigal immigrants evictions and against poppy plantations on our Lands. For centuries we are the protector and preservors of Forest and our lives depend on them. Without inform and consent, state Govt. take tries away our lands and forests by declaring Reserved/protected Forest and no provisions or rehabilatation for Hill Tribals. And now meeteis want to grab Tribal Lands by becoming ST, they said openly on local TV channels. For centuries their kingdom lies in the valley called Kangleipak, never ever in the history were in Hills, they despise us. All of a sudden they want us because we have lands? imagine yourself...
don't buy land or any property in assam...specially in guwahati.
Kuki and naga has been friends since ages my grandfather was a pastor and he would talk about his friendship with the nagas, our foregrandfather also fought the british war known as the kuki anglo war.
But at some point as the population grows more villages are established in which our neighbors naga burnt down villages, killed children,women,men raped women and child, killed pregnant women, elderly people, which is known as the Black friday for the kuki.
we forgive but we do not forget.
we are all tribals we are not immigrants.
you naga have your rights, we kuki have our rights.
we are all christians.
naga and kuki are the oldest tribe in manipur ❤
Bro u must understand the population growth and peoples were untouchables but it's 21st century
Excellently put!
@@tikz_patriot9207 not only guwahati all over assam.....we have population crisis here....
It was really a great conversation 👍🏻..i think the main reason why meitei demanded st was missed out…you hv covered the criteria for ST not the exact reason.. and this has been demamded from almost 10 yrs. recently the court has approved to process further as it was valid…but still ppl from other communities can file for rejection..not in violence
Their demand is purely political and totally against the tribals.
Manipur solution is separate adminstration for kuki tribal
Good program with lots of information why Manipur is disturbed.....I have been to Nagaland recently and it is not as bad as the mainland portrayed it....people are nice, so many historical place and it is quite an interesting story behind each of them... good infrastructure is coming up, but great disappointment with roads hopefully the state govt will take care of it
Sir GB Kahuto is such an intellectual man.. Worth watching
I'd be glad to witness other educated people as well. This channel can create an impact upon the naga youths. Today we have many youths with degree but uneducated mind.
Wow Sir KAHUTO ❤️ 💯👍 God bless you 🙏
I notice the discussion to be very generic and unsubstantiated without delving into any socio-political and anthropological depths. I appeal for an issue of such importance to be discussed with an expert. Otherwise, whatever that's been stated here in the discussion turns out only to be a claim. Below are some points the host and the discussant are not aware of: the Meiteis and how the constitution define a community to be a Scheduled Tribe in India.
1) Not all Meiteis are hindus. Hinduism/Vaishnavism among Meiteis got spread around the early 18th Century. You will find many Meiteis still practicing traditional Sanamahi religion, and even among Meiteis who worship Hindu gods, they still follow Sanamahi too.
2) Among Meiteis who follow Hinduism, there is no Verna system of caste classification as Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Sudras. Vedic caste is a foreign concept among Meiteis. Scheduled Castes among Meiteis emerged out of groups of Meiteis who agitated against and refused forced conversion of Vaishnavism/Hinduism by the then king of Manipur.
3)In the recognition of Scheduled Tribe in India, religion plays no role in this process. Gonds, Santal, Meena, Naikda/Nayak, etc. are Hindus and still a Schedule Tribe in India. Bhutia, Monpa, Chakmas, etc. are Buddhist and still a Schedule Tribe in India. Kuki, Naga, Khasi, etc. are Christian and still a Schedule Tribe in India.
4) Having established a kingdom and having a long written history do not refrain any community from inclusion in ST. The continuity of a community from ancient times to present days is also no reason to bar a community from recognising as a Scheduled Tribe in India. Munda Scheduled Tribe developed their own institutions as early as 1500 B.C.E. The Meena Scheduled Tribes established their kingdom as early as 6th Century B.C.E. Bhutia Scheduled Tribe was the ruling community of Sikkim (as king) till the inclusion of Sikkim to the Union of India. Ahoms in Assam were also the ruling community. Tripuri Scheduled Tribe of Tripura has its own kingdom for ages and still has a titular king. In simple words, the survival of ancient civilization is not a valid reason to object to the inclusion of some communities in the Scheduled Tribe list. India is a secular country, the practice of one’s religion is one’s personal choice and the Supreme Court and Constitution of India guarantee this right.
5) There are 25 lakh people identified as Kuki themselves in India, 20 lakh people identified as Naga themselves in India and 15 lakh people identified as Meitei in India. The Big Statement of Meitei as a major/big community is a hoax. The largeness of community also is not a subject matter in the recognition of Scheduled Tribe in India. There are “1.6 crores Bhils Scheduled Tribe, 74 lakh Santal Scheduled Tribe, 30 lakh Gonds Scheduled Tribes, 15 lakh Bodos.
5) Manipur nationalist movement is not a recent one and dates back to the formation of UNLF in the early 1960s.
In 2014, a committee formed and led by Union tribal affairs secretary Hrushikesh Panda to review the guidelines of recommendation and recognition of a community or part of the community in Scheduled Tribe list of India, and they are as follow: (a). Autonomous religious practices, although practicing the Hindu way of life would not be a bar; (b). Marital relationship with another tribe (the majority in the tribe should marry within the tribe or with other tribes); (c). Distinctive Culture; (d). Historical and geographical isolation; (e). Social-Economic and educational backwardness; and (f). Distinctive Language.
(a). Autonomous religious practices, although practicing the Hindu way of life would not be bar: it is well documented that Meitei was mass converted into Hinduism in the 18th century and still retain many themes of its traditional religion and even still many follow the traditional religion, which is a type animism, pagan, totemic, ancestor worship. For example- Meitei believes that Mount Koubru is the cradle of human origin and here all the god and goddess visit observer their creation. The Institution of Amaibi-Amaiba (Sherman, Priest, traditional medicine man, etc.), Umang Lai-haroba (Forest God festival), Chagumba (first solid food feeding to child), etc. still exists in Meitei society.
(b). Marital relationship with another tribe (the majority in the tribe should marry within the tribe or with other tribes): Majority of the Meitei still married within the Meitei community. Within the same surname, there is no marriage at all; within the same clan, marriages are avoided; a different clan is preferred to engage in marriage relations.
(c). Distinctive Culture: Culture is a very broad term which is reflected in the institutions, tradition, arts, dance, dress, etc. of the community. Manipuri dance, Maibi jagoi, leima jagoi, thougal jagoi, thabal chongba, etc. form of Meitei dances shows its uniqueness. Sports and games of Meitei like Yubi lakpi, sagol kangjai (Polo), Mukna kangjai, Khong kangjai, Kang sanaba, etc. shows its distinctive culture from others. Martial arts of Meitei like Tang-Ta, Huyen-lanlong, Mukna, Ta khaosaba, chaibi chainaba, Arambai, etc. also show in distinctive and unique culture.
(d). Historical and geographical isolation: In the history textbooks of India, Manipur and Meitei history will not present in any amount as Meitei till the event of the British having no connection with the other communities of India. This shows the historical and geographical isolation. Most of Meitei live in Imphal Plateau which is above 2000 meters above the sea level. The nearest effective railway station is 561.9 KM (National Highway 2) on mostly mountainous roads.
(e). Social-Economic and education backwardness: According Reserved Bank of India 2015 reports, the urban area of Manipur i.e. area where Meitei lives is the poorest in India (RBI, 2015). This translated Meitei is one of the poorest communities in India.
(f). Distinctive Language: Meitei language also known as Manipuri language is one of the languages under the 8Th Scheduled of Indian Constitution. UNESCO identified this language as one of the vulnerable languages of the world (Moseley, 2010). This inclusion in 8th Scheduled of Indian Constitution and UNESCO identification as one of the vulnerable languages of the world shows the distinctiveness of Meitei language.
Very nicely explained.. 👏👏
And don't mind this two ignorant man.. They are just letting out the little knowledge they have about Manipur out of their tiny minds.. 🤭🤭
You really want meiteis to lower their social status to tribals. Going backwards is not advisable😂😂
There is no as truth and as simple as this explanation. .,,,🙏👍🙏 Thanks so much Sir.