Mistakes of the Emperor - Part 4 - Perturabo

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  • @darkinnovator2479
    @darkinnovator2479 Год назад +20

    The Lion and Perturabo should have been the best of friends among the Primarchs, they would just sit down and social awkwardly turn silence into bemoaning the incompetence of all their other siblings, and really how they should be put in charge of the Great Crusade's agenda.

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 Год назад +1

      Funny that Perturabo should consider himself competent, considering his tactics were basically just power armored Krieg, throwing bodies into the woodchipper til the woodchipper gets clogged, then whining about how he gets no glory instead of actually, y’know, revising his tactics and NOT killing his commanders in a temper tantrum when they dare to talk back. The Lion actually has good cause to bemoan the incompetence of others. Because he’s actually competent.

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 Год назад +1

      Basically, Perturabo only looks competent when you compare him to the other traitors, I.E, Angron, Lorgar, Konrad, or Mortarion, because all the other traitors are just so unbelievably deranged that they’d make a 13 year old playing call of duty competent by comparison. Funny as all hell.

    • @themather1
      @themather1 6 месяцев назад

      @@venerablebrothergoriate5844 They were the same, because the follow the same mindset; war is a numbers game, you win it because you sacrifice less valuable resources than you force your enemies to sacrifice. And sometimes, those resources are lives.
      They are the absolute worst armies to fight for, but they win. Because victory has to be achieved at any cost, and they calculate the cost upfront.

  • @blank8460
    @blank8460 Год назад +1

    So funny

  • @chrisvillanueva5553
    @chrisvillanueva5553 Год назад +11

    Maybe the Emperor should’ve had Perturabo help him build The Webway project

    • @teezzmegee972
      @teezzmegee972 4 месяца назад

      Add Magnus into the mix and it will be impervious by the definition ✨️

    • @teezzmegee972
      @teezzmegee972 4 месяца назад

      Oh wait...

  • @loyalcav1575
    @loyalcav1575 Год назад +14

    Time to get this video back on the Algorithm!!

  • @nachinachi5085
    @nachinachi5085 7 месяцев назад +4

    Perturabo is the literal embodiment of "Dude, where's my respect?" from TV tropes.

  • @dakotalange2858
    @dakotalange2858 Год назад +9

    YES PETER TURBO IS BACK!!!

  • @Archivist001
    @Archivist001 Год назад +13

    Was Perty meant to be the “Teacher” primarch? One meant to impart his limitless wisdom unto his brothers and mankind

    • @cpaul562
      @cpaul562 Год назад +8

      He was meant to build the cities of the imperium, Dorn would have built its fortresses, Magnus would have sat upon the Golden Throne, Guilliman would have run the administration, Alpharius would have been the head of the secret police, Fulgrim and Sanguinius would create art and culture, Angron would have been an empath, Konrad would have been the normal police and the others I don’t know.

    • @migrivp2672
      @migrivp2672 Год назад +1

      Konrad would have been the justice system not police, bird boy would have been the public face leader Vulcan would have been the police they are more personable

    • @Archivist001
      @Archivist001 Год назад +1

      @@migrivp2672 I think Konrad would’ve been the Emperor’s Himmler

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@cpaul562 Ferrus would have been the liason between the Imperium and Mechanicus, Sanguinius would have been the Imperium's seer and posterboy, working with Fulgrim to craft a pretty face for the Imperium. Guilliman would have been the head of the Administratum, Lorgar would be the head of the Iterators prommelgating the imperial truth, The Lion likely would work with Alpharius in secret policing, Mortarion and The Khan would have been the Imperium's outriders, exploring and charting the most dangerous and hazardous places in the galaxy, and it's also likely that Mortarion would have bent his efforts to terraforming, in which Vulkan would likely assist, among additional humanitarian duties.

  • @dakotalange2858
    @dakotalange2858 Год назад +17

    I feel Perturabo is most like the emperor in mind set willing to do whatever is necessary even if he doesn’t want to because he wants to create a perfect utopia for humanity just like Perturabo who was forced to war but wanted to build wonders

  • @steevyos94
    @steevyos94 Год назад +6

    Yoo that flame sesh was perfect 💀💀

  • @b3rz3rk3r9
    @b3rz3rk3r9 9 месяцев назад +2

    If I were to offer a way to prevent Perturabo from becoming a traitor, as unlikely as that could be, it would probably have been pertinent to allow Perturabo to begin reconstruction effirts of the worlds he took and destroyed in Siege warfare. True, this would give Perty Boy the incentive to just raze the planet, but if Peter Turbo were taught by the Emperor to maintain or use buildings that were still usable or had better value remsining where they stood, then that could effectively scratch the itch of having him build items of peace. That, and maybe have a greater split between rebuikding decimated worlds and taking them for the Imperium.
    The reason I say this, while outwardly manipulative, is because it is the same rational thinking of giving ice cream ir cake to the kid who ate his salad or helping him find ways to make salad how he likes, or even letting your kid play computer games after homework: it is positive reinforcement through rewards in response to doing undesireable tasks. The crux of Perturabo's problem was that he was repeatedly forced into doing things he despised with barely any sense of recognition for overcoming it. As such, the best answer would be to allow him to pursue his dream within allotted periods of time with Iron Warriors remaining with some laborers to achieve these projects when he is called away. And if you're about to say that "this is applying childlike thinking to a full-grown man," then you'd be correct. Mainly because Perturabo is acting like a child: not a spoiled one, mind you, but a needing one. A child that's being pushed into class after class, assignment after assignment, chore after chore; all without being able to read, play, socialize, explore, or even take an Emperor-Damned nap. He needs some form of reward for his actions, like his brothers, and needs greater positive reinforcement to help him put up with things that he hates being good at. That, and maybe helping him to see some analytical challenge in shifting warfare, since he clearly has a problem with chaotic factors. He thinks statically, unopen to shifting change. Thus, he needs to be taught how to accept these factors, and maybe even find challenges in overcoming these factors

  • @GreyFrost99
    @GreyFrost99 Год назад +3

    Sister Everly on a rant is... Mmph

    • @mide2476
      @mide2476 Год назад +1

      I am shocked speechless and very impressed.

  • @djchappell1726
    @djchappell1726 Год назад +7

    Every ork hearing the Medicae rip into Perturabo, "Oooh! I likes her! ...Youz fink she's gonna dregz da git moar?"
    Medicae berates the 'Lord of Iron' further.
    Orks, "Whoooooo! Shakka!"

  • @bbbbKeJodddd
    @bbbbKeJodddd Год назад +1

    Imagine if Perturabo had been given command of the Heralds.
    Every city would be Monarchia without the emperor worship.

  • @Overanalyse_This
    @Overanalyse_This Год назад +3

    So when did Peter get the head pipes though?

    • @lordtritus2261
      @lordtritus2261 Год назад

      The "head pipes" are wired into a central processor that connected him to the entire server of his forces from radios to automata, but they are also often misinterpreted as the butcher's nails on Angron. Those same people also "mistake" Angron's punishment for failing to kill a planet's worth of people fast enough of repetitive decimations while Perturabo had done it once.

  • @ВиталийГлинкин-ж1э

    21:06 it's a great moment. A war is only this way. There's no glory. Only death and torment.

  • @richter6699
    @richter6699 Год назад +11

    It's often said that the Emperor could have avoided it all by being a better father, but I disagree. The one he treated most like a son is the one who led the rebellion.
    I would counter that the Emperor would have done a lot better had he executed the Primarchs who failed him. Both Lorgar and Angron would be gone. Horus would not have been introduced to Chaos, and there would be less defectives available to join the rebellion even if he did still fall.

    • @venerablebrothergoriate5844
      @venerablebrothergoriate5844 Год назад +1

      Yeah, and something about Perturabo specifically, you’d think that being sent on some of the most difficult campaigns in the crusade might have taught him some fucking humility, which would’ve done him a world of good. And I do believe that that was in fact the Emperor’s intention. But Perturabo had his head so far up his own ass that humility was a concept utterly beyond him.

    • @thetowerofbabble6307
      @thetowerofbabble6307 Год назад +6

      ⁠how does chucking someone into the most grueling, attritional and depressing campaigns supposed to teach humility? Your giving them trauma and making them accustomed and numb to the amount of lives lost in the effort of achieving victory. In fact, I’ll go as far as to say that it would teach them that the ends justify any and all means to achieve it, no matter how much war machines and lives you have to throw to achieve it.

    • @naciabell7903
      @naciabell7903 Год назад

      @@thetowerofbabble6307 I'd agree. But at the same time Perturabo was also responsible for this as well. He never really spoke up about how much he hated these assinments and wanted to do something diffrent. He just kept doing it and doing it and most of his tactics weren't even that good or that brilliant. Was he a master at seige? Absoultly. But did he also tend to take complelty unneccecary casulties and have absoulutly rock bottom morale ? Also yes. Frankly if not for the complusion to obey their primarch and that many iron warriors were jealous and frusrated to, it feels at times like a coup should of happend to overthrow perturabo and or just kill him and take the legion in a diffrent direction. Cause he was not a very good leader, due to how he even delibartly screwed over his own sons and was far too volitle and chilidsh.

    • @durrangodsgrief6503
      @durrangodsgrief6503 11 месяцев назад

      the issue with that is that hes the one that chose that type of warfare he the one that hurled his skull into a wall and complained when the wall didnt break instead of getting the proper tool all while pissing and moaning for attention while doing it hes the worst@@thetowerofbabble6307

  • @mandaloretheangry9043
    @mandaloretheangry9043 Год назад

    remember to always say thanks

  • @nekon_ravenfox
    @nekon_ravenfox 11 месяцев назад

    god daum that burn/rant session was beautiful A+

  • @ВиталийГлинкин-ж1э

    0:28 another great moment

  • @blank8460
    @blank8460 Год назад

    'Mistakes of the Emporer'....heretic