Is Being An Introvert Impossible in Fashion?
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- The fashion industry is known for extroverted, social people at extremely luxurious parties. Are introverts able to be a part of fashion if they don't enjoy doing that? Who is my favorite high fashion female menswear designer who shows at a major fashion week (New York, London, Milan & Paris)? How am I supposed to start in fashion as a 16 year old, should I go to fashion school or take a good fashion course? All this and more on today's questions video.
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I work in fashion design and I’m introverted,
I found as easy at it was for me to land very coveted entry position in global brands, extremely hard to grow out of that entry position. There is a game happening in the fashion industry where once you make it in you just need to talk your way up. And I do find it frustrating as I seen many people without competence going up due to their friends instead of hightly skilled people it’s happen all the time.
*JOBS IN FASHION* there are a thousand jobs in fashion that are not "fashion designer" - my friend is an American polymer chemist designing new fabrics in the Netherlands
Another is a fashion historian researching old patterns and digitising them...
Why would it be impossible for an introvert to be able to take part in the world of fashion? I'm an extreme introvert, to the point of an INFJ on Myers Brigg, but I still have to play a part in life. As far as showing up to every shindig going on in fashion to further my career... yeah, that would be a tough one, but every introvert knows how to cut corners, do what they have to do to get it done with minimal pain. Isn't Hedi Slimane an introvert? He managed to succeed.
Thanks for sharing 🦾 Could you share what makes you feel ready to go to an event? Is it just time in a room by yourself? Is there a process?
@@BlissFoster Yes! I absolutely DO need to just sit, and for a long while, convincing myself that I HAVE to go, I can't skip the event. Attending any event sucks all the energy out of me. Just the act of getting ready for an event drains me. It is so bad that I will not do ANYTHING before said event, nothing, no shopping, no errands, no visit with friends earlier in the day. I have to devote all my energy into attending that days event. Just hang out at home, nap, read, watch Bliss Foster vids, etc. I also need to do as much as I can the day before, such as wash my hair the night before. Any sort of preparation that can be done the day before, will be done the day before said event.
@@Lucretcielathis is so accurate, having that lingering thought in your head that you have to go and literally laying in bed all day until it’s time to get ready
@@LucretcielaThis is super similar to my process. I’m also an INFJ and I do a lot of modeling, so on a different side of the process but I have a similar routine so that I have enough energy to go out and model. The day-before routine as well as keeping the day leading up to the job super chill is all super helpful. I’m also a huge organizer so I make sure to have the commute planned out and I pack a bag the night before of essentials. Afterwards I try to take some time to decompress day of or day after and that’s super helpful too!
@@mjay8626 When said event/job/whatever it is that wipes you out is over & done, do you ever feel a sense of euphoria? I always feel somewhat elated when it's all over. I guess I'm just happy I got thru it, and didn't blow it off, and I can relax. I never really took note of that until I read what you said about "decompressing" afterwards.
9:40 As someone who works in a “dream job” industry and has a couple of young family members who are about to enter and/or graduate from university, here’s what I say to them: if you don’t have access to the people who you see as industry mentors, at least start cultivating the working habits of the world that you’re looking to work in. 99% of the work I get is because people want to work with me. Key words here being “want” and “work”.
Currently in college for fashion design. This is all what I’ve learned in school and through networking.
You can absolutely be an introvert and be in fashion. There are even jobs that can be done remote, although they are often not the most creative. To be frank, unless you are the creative director of a brand, most fashion jobs aren’t that creatively driven.
If you are newer to the fashion industry or want to find a career in it, a great set of skills to get yourself into the door of the DESIGN world is learning Excel Spreadsheets and Adobe Illustrator. People make pretty decent money because brands and creative directors outsource work to people who can make tech-packs with Adobe Illustrator or crunch numbers in Excel.
I’m not saying it’s the end all be all, but knowing those two programs is EXTREMELY helpful in the industry.
3:12 "NO!!" And the first person who popped in my head when Bliss said this was Pharrell Williams...
same
I just want to say that being an introvert doesn’t stop you from working on your social skills and doesn’t stop you from being able to act like an extrovert sometimes.
I went to living my life alone speaking so little i couldn’t even talk properly and not being able to stay 30 sec in a room with people in it; to being able to casually talk to anyone on the street, being able to speak to a room of full of people and making friends easier than most extrovert.
I didn’t change im still an introvert, but social relationships is a skill that can be worked on and mastered, and few people actually work on that especially extrovert who thinks they have that skill naturally and thus don’t work on it.
Introvert means that you tend to recharge you batteries while being alone, it’s not a burden or a handicap
so true.. I'm also an introvert. Which book or video helped you the most to learn these social skills?
for me it was a challenge where i would everyday talk to 3 strangers on the street and doing harder and harder tasks, and also answering yes to allmost everything
starts from calling a random number to ask for a movie reccomendation to asking people to give you a compliment to sing out loud in public etc
The real deal was realising not only that nothing bad happens, that most people are even more scared and shy than you, and also that crazy scenario tend to happen when you go out of your confort zone.
in a month of doing that, i saved a girl from suicide, i met 3 of my best friends, i got invited to events and restaurants, i got job opportunities and contacts all just by talking to strangers and seeing how far you can go from that, was really life changing@@tomfordlegacy4271
@@jonathanvitesse9471 thanks for sharing bro! You can be proud of yourself for making this decision and fighting your inner demons.. I'll try it the same way you did!
@@jonathanvitesse9471 wow thanks for sharing! I'm in the same position, currently trying to start conversations with random people.
Omg!! I love your point about Virgil's use of bright colors. I never thought about it that way. It actually made me shed a few tears. I was never a huge fan of his but now l see him in a totally different light. Thank you.
Most famous people are introverted,music has less introverted people because it attracts narcissistic people,but most famous people if they aren’t narcissistic they like privacy,you will appreciate it when you deal with the public eyes on you all the time.
so many celebrities are introverts - being an introvert doesn’t mean incapable of human interaction
as an introvert, don’t use introversion as a crutch / excuse to not be a productive member of society and to not pursue things you want to
no one is born a successful designer, and there’s things you have to do to get there
and if socializing is one of them it’s just a skill to build same as sewing or creativity or drawing
I think the actual definition of this word has been diluted. I thought that it was after socializing you find peace in not interacting or having a cut off point. Vs an extrovert where they thrive in being social and their tolerance for socializing is higher.
You got any tips for building this skill?
@@Ivanmolaritalk to strangers in situations where you’re interacting with them - ask the cashier how their day was, ask the front desk person at the dentist their name or something
everyone loves talking just get people to talk to
The whole introvert extrovert dualism is so stupid
@@karigrandii it is kinda
Generalizations as a whole are
The designer Renli Su is the perfect example. You don’t need to have a protagonist character to have a fashion brand.
I never believed your clothes should “compliment” your skin color. think dark skin people look good in all colors and same with light skin people. Wear whatever you want.
When we talk about work in fashion or careers in fashion, we need to remember that there are hundreds, perhaps even thousands of job descriptions, which aren't model or designer! There are cutters and ateliers and artisans and economists, creative and consultants, buyers, advertising specialists, etc. If you think you might want a career in fashion, find out which of these best suits your personal needs. We can't all be models or designers, and we wouldn't have models and designers without the amazing teams behind the scenes.
I am going to do some hottaking;;
I don't think the classification of extravert/introvert is useful in any way as an individual without considering the context in which they are currently in. With context I mean in what social context you exist. With the right people I can be either an "introvert" or "extravert" and I have a hard time understanding it to be any different for other people, especially reading the comments here .
I think it makes sense for a company/job context because people won't have a choice within this context; you have the job and you're not going to leave. What I mean is that if you want to leave that's besides the point; my point is that the company cannot assume people want to leave all the time. This means that they need to work with what they got and that's why some companies do personality testing to see how to work with the people that are part of the company. Usually this involves defining people as either introvert or extravert because that gives them some framework to maybe improve how to deal with what people identify as. For example if you have an employee that is considered to be an introvert maybe write a message before calling them.
I am rambling a bit but I hope my point makes sense? Maybe I haven't met ''real'' extraverts. Every person I know that I would've considered extravert also becomes tired after interacting with people. I've both lost and gained energy by talking with people I either liked to spend time with or haven't liked to spend time with.
Fashion has been historically designed for lighter skin.
Thank you for that insight.
- Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
I'm an introvert and I never studied fashion because I'm not interested in a career as a designer, but I know people who currently study fashion. They are all kind of extroverted. I don't know if it's just by chance.
first time seeing Bianca Saunders.. good stuff... gateway brand
As a leather design student, newcomer in the world of fashion and your fan, id love to hear your take on leather in fashion or the absence of it
*CELEBRITIES - THANK YOU...!!!* my absolute pet hate in the UNIVERSE is celebrities doing things outside thier wheelhouse that DEPRIVE other people of jobs and income
Lets say launching a new vodka or beer - its a success BECAUSE of their name and nothing more and 100% for sure - someone's dream died...!!! That money didn't go to that boutique distillery and they could not make rent that month and they gave up. Or they launch a fashion brand so they company cuts back on new designers that year. *I HATE IT WITH A PASSION*
I agree. Well said. The greed of the famous is shocking.
@@markbailey5393 - It irrationally angers me when they do it. As if they don't have enough money already
At the minimum, their profit margins would be better to give the actual people doing work behind the scenes more money vs your big business companies. But I doubt that happens or it’s super rare.
So are you saying as soon to be graduated with master's in information systems science with minors in SCM, marketing and IB I can become better designer :O
You’re amazing Bliss, keep doing this, you’re the best at it. IN THE WORLD. And this is coming from an industry professional. Yes, I will be joining your Patreon. God bless.
Ayyyyy you’re the best 🙏🙏
anyone approaching the arts at any age need to draw, a lot
i think the answer to the last question was kind of biased 😂😂
what should i do to figure out what i want to do bliss?
bliss: "interview proffesionals"
lol
sorry about the english it is a 2 language
As a 23 year old, the career question was so important to answer and the advice given was so so valuable. Wish I'd heard that at 16 lol
Extreme TALENT = Extreme INTROVERT , think Michelangelo
As someone who is at times obnoxiously extroverted I feel like introvertedness is over romanticized and foxused upon in the creative industries as though its so wildly uncoomon but I never see much on how to manage my want to engage with everyone i meet at all times when say networking or collsborating idk just a thought
networking/rubbing shoulders at clubs and private parties is a big part of the game. like the real work to actually move up happens after you clock out.
I think most greatest artist we know in human history are introverts and eccentric one ,
Peace and Quiet are needed to taking input of brilliant idea before creating an art as most artist do this kind of approach
I am not conservative with many things but phone throwing goes to far
I am politically liberal on the issue of international phone tossing, lobbing, and throwing 😤
@@BlissFoster I always knew you where on of those radical phone throwers 😆
I’m 18 and I’m getting really interested in fashion could you make a video on what skills you actually need to become a fashion designer please
Is it possible being an introvert in the world of fashion ?
WTF & HILARIOUS question is that ?
put some good outfit on & go to a jazz club - there you enjoy the real life - the luxury feel THE REAL TIME you live, every second you constantly realise how rare life is,...... (....,yeah and all that buddism-jazz,..... you know what i mean !!!! )
i’m 19. i’ve been into clothes since i was younger. i’m quite shy but i’d say an attractive guy. i really can’t wait to make my mark
Celebrities as creative directors 😜
We need more Bianca
When is Bliss coming to Cape Town🇿🇦
Funny enough, I became a designer at 14 and did my first show at 16. I'm now almost 23, by brand turns 10 years old this April, and it's still hard man. I wish I hot that childhood back, but man does it make you shoot ahead in your skills. Just make sure to give yourself time to take a night off or spend a weekend not working. It is terrible for your nervous system, and now I feel like I'm constantly stressed.
The introvert question is more about marketing yourself. As an introvert how are you doing that? Since you don’t find peace in talking to a lot of people.
Sharing Virgil’s background in architecture, he gets praise from me because I def see the architecture conversations happening in his work. The only design form that is all encompassing, like architecture, where you have to create a “world” within the parameters of physical materials is fashion. At the time he was hot in the fashion scene there were so many imitators that were def only copying superficial elements. I finally pulled the trigger on LV when I was on a trip to Paris and I don’t think I would’ve done that if it wasn’t for Virgil.
Also I got out of the architecture industry because it wasn’t for me. Don’t get me wrong I love architecture and it’s the reason I do photography and travel but doing it is a whole different story. Doing it for a firm is where I was at my breaking point and switched to another design field. Which knowing architecture def helped me. Not to say I would go back voluntarily but I would do it on my own terms. That field has terrible working hours for the amount you get paid. Also fairly toxic attitudes towards professional “loyalty.” Glad I left it because I only appreciate architecture more.
You got any tips for building this skill?
I came to see you in paris after yuima nakazato’s show, i’m a big introvert but fashion requires boldness so meeting people, connecting, creating a network and keeping it active
introverts make the best artists - team introverts!!!!!
The video is too short 😭 the ending caught me off guard
What do you think of the Cristobal Balenciaga tvshow on Disney?
Haven’t seen it yet unfortunately 💫💫
The talk on color reminded me of this TikTok by HRH SHAN, she mentions the book Chromophobia by David Batchelor. In summary, the book talks about the West's reaction to color
That sounds fascinating! Is this something where I could just read it as an audiobook or should I get the book
so I can see pictures?
@@BlissFoster Honestly, not too sure if there are many pictures within the book, but I did check online and the audiobook is available.
How do I start in fashion as a 14 y/o
8:49 Did you just say "and stuff" four times in five seconds!? 😂 Too cute
relatable topic
my very minor connection to the collection / piece discussed at 5:30 is that I sold Virgil a 90s prada holster bag that was used as reference for those gorgeous neon ones. I always love when I see those, and the comments on the colour palette were really interesting !
Virgil having an architecture background, in architecture school we are taught that unlike art or other artistic fields you have to have a reason for any proposed design element. Just like in fashion with references. Tho you have to be more subtle about it in architecture because your clients don’t care what your referencing because its for their own personal use and unlikely that they’ll be talking about those references to their guests. It’s nice for us architecture people who see it in works tho.
Thesaurus, please❤
Thank yooouuu bliss!!! I really needed that advise 13:00
I look at it like any industry, there are people in the scene and there are people behind the scenes. A huge amount of fashion (most of it) takes place behind the scenes and it’s an ideal creative or business environment for any introvert to thrive. The extroversion on the exterior is intimidating, but no one should let that fool them into thinking that’s how it works.
Great advice
well creating a fashion piece with monograms are helpful if your logo is trademarked :D helps making alot of money
lol how much did your Cartier watch cost ugh I want one…the tank to be specifically
More group runway analysis please :)
Yes yes yes!! The first quarter of the year is our busiest time because men’s and women’s fashion weeks are so close together. I can’t wait to do another group analysis when we gave more time. We’ll likely do one in late March 💫💫
i feel like you would make a supper cool dad! (not in a weird way)
Cool to see Bliss taking watches :) beautiful TT Pasha btw.
Thanks so much! I’ll admit I know very little about watches, but it’s interesting to me when it’s not just big-man-big-watch-big-status type stuff 😅
@@BlissFoster yeah, I get it haha. Feel free to hit me up if you ever have watch questions, etc. Glad you got your Pasha repaired, it suits you perfectly.
lol will they buy us a cup of coffee or will we have to buy them a cup of coffee
I wish I could like this video 100 times
Has bliss ever hit his elbow on the edge of that glass table in a video? Yet? I get sensory anxiety about that every time while watching every video 😂
That table has claimed a lot of blood lmao. my buddy had to get 4 stitches in his forehead because he fell and hit the corner of that iron+glass table in middle school.
Finally joined your Patreon; your work should definitely be supported. Excited to watch the exclusive content. 👌
🙏🙏 means a ton to me
I love you a bunch too darling 😘
I like this video❤❤❤❤
Excellent answer for the last question
As a full time student without a steady income, I cannot support the patreon just yet. But I do genuinely love what you guys are doing here and I always learn so much. Keep up the amazing work🫶
"8:26" are the pants draped too?
Love ❤️ this channel
clothes are overrated
The most relatable topic nobody ever talked about ❤
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