Back in the 60s there were a few times deadline was looming, and there was no time to letter the pages. Charlton did the lettering with a special font on an IBM Selectric typewriter. The lettering credit was given to A. Machine.
Honestly, I think that was part of my motivation...a lot of people I talk to are trying to get a graphic novel off the ground. I thought that something like this might help.
Regarding the "Ben Day Dots", I remember back in the 80s when I was in London, the racks and racks of Letraset (lettering) and Letratone (dots and other patterns) at the London Graphic Centre. It's amazing how much things have changed. Letraset was a brand name as well known as "Biro" and now it's completely gone. There was a special kind of misery to getting a letter slightly wonky, or running out of one letter.
I love these kind of vids. I do have to say that you have gotten me hooked on the pulps. It started w/The Shadow, then i moved on to the spider, Phantom and so on. Now I'm also hooked on the ol' timey radio shows. Thank you for introducing me to something that I would have never found on my own.
I remember being a very young kid reading Charlton's Emergency! comic, and I also remember reading E-Man # 1 and trying to figure out just what an "exotic dancer" was (she made her living performing dances from foreign lands, I guessed).
I was fortunate enough to meet Nick Cuti IRL. A nicer guy you will never find. His enthusiasm for comics, movies, science fiction and life, in general, is unbounded.
Back in the 60s, Carmine Infantino did a feature called, "How I draw the Flash" that explained the process of producing comics pages from thumbnail sketches of page layouts, penciling and finally inked pages. I think this feature appeared in two issues of The Flash. Until I saw that, I had assumed that cartoonists picked up a pen and brush and drew everything in ink.
@@FizzFop1 If I'm not mistaken, the pages were reprinted in DC Special #1 which was a collection of stories done by Infantino, featuring his work on the Flash, Adam Strange, Detective Chimp, Strange Sports and more. The first installment showed how he drew the Flash, from basic figure drawing to his trademark speed lines and multiple images he used to portray super speed. The second installment showed the process of drawing a comics page from small thumbnail layouts, drafting the panels and penciling the illustrations. It was a real learning experience for me.
@@FizzFop1 ok I will. I'm also probably going to get another classic comic how to book known as "manga in theory and practice" by the same dude behind JoJo's bizarre adventure
Just got my copy in the mail today and looked at the back. I'm going to definitely look into send a story in or something. Thanks for making this video dude.
Now I just need to figure out which story to send in. I don't want a situation where the publisher takes the rights of one of my main stories away from me.
I like the approach to this video. Of course, you're always so informative, but this laid-back style was nice. I'm glad someone is covering the history of comics and not just worshiping at the alter of he big two. I admit to being a DC girl, but I've always loved comics from the past, particular Jungle adventures and super hero stuff from the 40s. So this channel really speaks to me.
That's why I watch channels like FizzFop1 and Comic Book Historian as well as collectors like Charlton 66, Jambo Comics , Captain Strangelife Comics and Collectibles to see more than just keys and graded books from the big two. As FizzFop1 suggested to another fan go to the website Comic Book Plus where you can read entire issues of Golden Age and Silver Age books from various companies except DC and Marvel. Mike's Amazing World of Comics is another website his website shows the covers of books that were on the newsstands for each month of the year you select to view. There is a website devoted to Atlas Comics : Atlas Tales which is a favorite of mine because it features the other genres from the company; teen humor, war, westerns, jungle, fantasy and horror.
I remember Zipatone (Ben Day dots). I was still working with those overlay sheets and dry-transfer letters for a lot of projects I was doing after getting out of school. I still had some sheets as late as the New Orleans Flood of 2005 all yellowing up somewhere. These days, you could as easily define a Zipatone pattern for your graphics app or to print out on your own dry transfer sheets off the computer.
@@StephenAnderson98403 Zipatone was very much a stick-on overlay, although I do remember dry-transfer halftone screen sheets from the day. You basically cut out the general shape of the area to be covered, peeled off the back, and did a little trim-up with the Exacto knife on the (bristol) board as needed after putting down the overlay. Takes me back quite a few years talking about using Zipatone again. And yes, halftone screen sheets are still available for about $4.50 a sheet from JetPens. Artists doing Manga-style artwork go for them to get that authentic Manga look: www.jetpens.com/Deleter-Jr.-Screen-Tone-182-mm-x-253-mm-JR-114/pd/11214?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIl_jh8Oft5QIVlJJbCh26yQ4XEAkYASABEgKSJvD_BwE
Cool video. I love that little book. I showed an original copy on one of my latest vids. I found a copy at Baltimore comic con. It is a welcome addition to my collection. I had Joe Staton sign it. He was happy to see a copy. Enjoyed the video. Take care. Best\Steve.
Someday all comic reviews will be done poolside at a luxury resort. Cool video. Interesting to get a little more Charlton history, as well as a look at the nuts and bolts of comics.
Love it. Love it. Love it!! Great vid, I'd be very interested to see more on the Charlton lines or company philosophy, love your channel dude, many thanks :)
I have copy of the original book somewhere in my files. I got it at a comic shop in the late 70s or early 80s. The only other Charlton books I have are the original 10 issues of E-Man.
While I was making this video, I broke out my Charltons...I don't have a complete run of E-Man...I'm missing issue 6 and I have a couple of Modern Comics reprints...but they were fun to read.
@@FizzFop1 I scored a pretty impressive stack of Charlton's this past summer at a second hand store on the Jersey Shore. Mainly the horror ones, bur a few 'action heroes' titles too.
Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing... So many of their books listed credits as "Lettering by: A. Machine" Oh, and re: your avatar-- "Be seeing you!"
First thing I thought of when I saw this book was how bad their lettering was and how they use to credit "A. Machine" as the letterer....can't believe I forgot to mention that when I made this video.
On Ben Day dots ... you can actually make your own with access to sheets of acetate (non-acidic), digital files of dot screens, and a b&w laser printer. Print the screens onto the acetate, cut it to size, and then glue it onto the drawing with matte finish acrylic varnish or emulsion. Yeah, it's involved, but fun, and you can make your screen patterns however you want. Heck, you could scan hand made textures and print those on your sheets!
Two videos in a couple of days. You’re on fire 🔥 🔥 🔥 I didn’t really give golden age comics a second thought until I found your channel. Sounds like marvel stole the idea of how to do comics the Marvel way off Charlton.
Hi Mark, I remember Stan Lee at a convention panel mentioning that people ran to him with the book after it came out. They liked the idea, but thought they could do it better.
I meet Stan Lee at a con in 2016. I feel so bad now I know he was being taken advantage of. If knew what I know now I wouldn’t have got him to sign my comic, he seemed sad. Anyways for the first time in my life I was speechless, all I said was thanks and shook his hand. He looked pained, he was 91 at the time and I remember thinking why is he still doing this? I could of had a much more meaningful conversation with him, like what it was like to work with Jack? But no I did the most normie thing to do and just took advantage of him. I’ll take this regret to my grave.
@@marktrafford1572 I was lucky. Met him a couple of times. I actually got to talk to him back in the 90s and have a real conversation with him back in the 90s.
I had a Charlton comic when I was a kid, I don't remember if it was from a series or if it was just a one-off, but it had a cat superhero named Captain Catnip. I have never seen that character turn up anywhere else...
@@FizzFop1 the planets must have lined up just right, because I actually just found the comic: www.amazon.com/CHARLTON-BULLSEYE-Horse-Charlton-store/dp/B075JXY7LM
@@FizzFop1 Belatedly, but it was Charlton. If you search for the character name you can see images of him on the cover of Bullseye #2 - whether he appeared anywhere else I'm not sure. Funny animal super, ala Captain Carrot.
I just bought a copy on kindle; thanks for the tip, Fizz-pop! Also: if anyone within the range of this text is interested, an 2019 reprint of the Lee/Buscema How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way may be found at the local Five Below store...I still have my copy from the 80s, but I bought two more for reference...not too bad for five dollars each...
I got really excited when Zack started to talk about using public domain characters. I thought he might bring back some older characters. It’s unfortunate he got scared off by the thought of possible legal action. I totally would have back him.
PD is complicated. There's a lot of usable characters right now. I don't know if anyone is really going to get the chance to use characters like Tarzan or Superman. Would not be surprised if laws are made to protect those characters.
@@FizzFop1 Zorro is a prime example of this. There is a group who goes after anyone who uses Zorro, even though he's in the Public Domain. As to keeping the characters, the companies use Trade Mark laws to artificially keep the copy right going.
I found some ben day type dots but as a png...find a copy shop that still does transparency. oN a quick search found IC Manga Screen Tone S-61 on amazon. Anyway, keep up the good work
Hi Vance! I wanted this book way back when also--only seen it for sale a couple of times until Charlton NEO reprinted it. The price for the original was a little too expensive for my wallet.
I'm a big fan of Charlton Neo and the Charlton Arrow. One of my favorite Charlton characters is Gumbo Galahad, a golden age character from Hillbilly Comics. He recently made an appearance in The Arrow and I was wondering if you could maybe do a video on him one day. Maybe talk about his similarities to other characters like Li'l Abner. If not him maybe you could cover some of Charlton's bronze age horror hosts, like Colonel Whiteshroud, who arguably could be considered a "hero". Just some suggestions. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
Hi El Coyote Channel! Thanks for watching! I've seen Charlton NEO ads, but haven't seen any of their books. One of the videos I'm working on is a top ten horror hosts from comics and a few of the Charlton characters made the list...I was surprised that there were so many.
@@FizzFop1 I know Countess Von Bludd and Baron Weirwulf off the top of my head, but I think Whiteshroud is the best. I'm so glad you're gonna talk about them.
Hi your show is awesome can you feature these characters these are my father's favorites The Lone Ranger or Zorro. Tarzan. Flash Gordon. or The ghost that walks The Phantom. John Carter of Mars. These are characters my father raised me up on and of course Marvel and DC so something featuring these classic characters would be amazing.
@@FizzFop1 I don't doubt. They are not that much in favor in the west except among manga inspired artists. Though I'd not a lot of them put them in using computer programs which make using them a considerable amount less of a pain.
Um...Summer is already done, Bub. Also, is Zorro getting an episode on your channel? It’s still his centennial...and no one else has really done anything.
Hi Jack of All Claws...I need to get something on Zorro/Johnston McCulley out. I've sort of gone down a rabbit hole with McCulley. He lived in Columbus Ohio for a while which is where I live. I really want to discover some sort info on him that isn't known...but YES, I need to get a Zorro video out. 100 Years of Zorro-WOW!
@@FizzFop1 I actually wrote Steve when I got out of the Marines in 1976 offering to go to New York and work for free as his apprentice ala some famous guy (Tesla maybe?) I read about who did the same for Thomas Edison. Unlike Edison, Ditko sent me a two or three page handwritten letter telling me I needed to make up my own mind about life's choices and then preached the (thankfully) cliff notes summary of Ayn Rand's objectivism outlook. I kept the letter for a long time but it eventually went the way of my collection of "No-Prizes", "Merry Marvel Marching Society" membership paperwork, the singalong record and a half-dozen handwritten postcards from the likes of Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Flo and the gang from back in the beginning when they took the time to personally respond to the letters of praise they received. If I had a few of (the right ones) now I might be able to pay off my house selling a couple on the internet. Who knew?
There are a couple of large pieces by Roy Lichtenstein in my local art center. (I like the originals they have by Grant Wood, Francis Bacon, Edward Hopper and Georgia O'Keefe.) Ben Day Dots are also called by some, zip-a-tone.
@@vilstef6988 I like Edward Hooper's work. There is a feeling that Roy Lichtenstein lifted the work ( without due credit) to a well known comic artist. Honestly, all artwork is either inspired or derivated of previous works.
Thanx Fizz Fop you are quickly becoming the third go to guy I go to when I need my comix jones fix, naw just kidding your #1. I wish you had a multi million dollar home too, replete with large leisure wading pool. Maybe one day. So now, thank to you, I can pronounce Buscema and Charlton correctly. Isn't Charlton where Steve Ditko originaly started ? Or did he leave Marvel and go there ? It was awhile ago you know ? And now I also have a better idea how to make my own comic. I already did one, just don't know what to do with it. Except maybe see if the Onion wants to run a strip. What do you think ?
Hey Stefan! Thank you for your kind words. I think Ditko did work at Charlton before working for Marvel. If you're interested in making your own comic, I'm working on another video right up your alley. As for your comic...self publish...there's places like Print Ninja where you can get published-small print runs are affordable. I'm working on a comic too...I might go that route. Also, Alterna Comics offer help for self publishers. You could always sell it on Indiegogo or I was thinking about making a giveaway comic for my local comic shops.
@@FizzFop1 Thanks a lot. I need help publishing, and I need an artist. Plot, script, dialogue, all come naturally to me. But I can't even draw decent stickmen. I will look into things you sggested. Thank you for the direction. When my autobiography is published you'll understand where all the grist for the mill came from. All the best. Peace.
Also some one need to make conservaite Anarchism. If Paul josphes Watson Said conservaite is new punk rock so fuck make it happend Conservaite punk rock exist so fuck it i don,t care is oxymoron Hey if ancaps and libertarian socialism is a thing so fuck it Don,t Believe in race or gender only DNA
Charlton characters definitely had potential. The Peacemaker particularly had huge potential that sadly will never be realized. This hero could have been great combination of James Bond, Batman, more--a really high-brow, and perhaps even a prestigious character. I don't care how popular it may be, I don't like the low-brow muscle-bound anti-hero DC has turned the character into.
How to Make Comics the Charlton Way... meet your business partner in prison, pay the lowest page rates in the industry, print your products on paper that is one quality grade above toilet tissue, destroy original art as soon as it has been pantographed to printing plate size, and operate as a soft money laundering front for the Mob. XD Seriously, I have a great affection for Charlton books. There are some great tall tales (and some that are strangely true) about this company. Thanks for your 2nd video inside a week!
Thought about the new Battlestar galactica reboot Remake second time You become the go to Every thing thought some make Remake or reboot in say 60s or 70s
Also i want know i never heard story of Orwell Said he quit soicalism i never heard that part of it The main of animal farm is showing think like Hey Every stalin did is bad as hitler
When you do black cat the Harvey comic one I say this kinda weird series is first being as a superhero then ec comic knock off then a western staring black cat then silver age sci fi comic
When I made my first list of ten heroes to do...she was on the list. I did the research and wrote a script...and it has just sat in my computer. I would love to do her with some live action scenes like I did with the Black Bat video. I talked to a female martial artist I know about portraying her. She was game but I didn't have the resources to follow through with it.
What a great video! I love Charlton stuff! This book was just a very basic pamplet with very little information to would-be artists, but it was awesome all the same. I still have an original copy: www.lostonwallace.com/charlton1.jpg and the original envelope it came in: www.lostonwallace.com/charlton2.jpg Also, I attended the Joe Kubert Art School, and I went on to become a professional comic book artist. That little book was quite inspiring! It's also Joe Staton, not "Stanton". I used to make that same mistake. It's just something about Joe's last name I guess. Heh.
Hi Loston Wallace! Thanks for watching! That's awesome! I always wanted that book, but I didn't know about it until long after the offer was over. From time to time, I would see it at a con, but it was way out of my price range. Last time I saw it was a few years back and the dealer wanted $60. Sorry, I'm not familiar with your work...I had to look you up. Your art looks great! I'm currently organizing my collection and I'm pretty sure I have some of your Elvira books. I might even have one or two autographed by Cassandra. I met here a couple of times at horror cons. Yep, I butchered Staton's name. It's funny, I can spend weeks working on a video...months/years if you include research...and there will be something that slips through that I won't catch until after the video is posted. It drives me crazy, and it happens on almost every video. The worst part with this one...I knew the guy's name. I said it wrong when I was reading the script and never caught it. When I edited the audio, it never jumped out at me. When I edited the video, it never jumped out at me. It was about a month after posting to RUclips when I discovered the mistake. LOL! How does this happen?
@@FizzFop1 I spent 11 years doing licensing work for DC Comics kids books from BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES, SUPERMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES, SUPER FRIENDS, etc. My most recent comic book art was the cover for IDW's ROM #4 (also the cover for ROM: COLD FIRE, HOT WAR): www.lostonwallace.com/rom4.jpg and I pencilled issue #2 of the IDW/DC Comics mini series ROCKETEER/SPIRIT: www.razorfine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/pulp-friction-2-cover.jpg I was an RPG game illustrator for 5 years before doing the kids books, and I do comics whenever I get a chance to. Currently, I'm illustrating packaging art for action figures for Boss Fight Studio. I've been providing the backing card packaging art for FLASH GORDON and PHANTOM figure lines in the past few months. I once pencilled a FLASH GORDON Sunday strip for King Features back in 2003, so it's a treat to be drawing those heroes! I'm very much into vintage and pulp heroes. No wonder I enjoy your channel, eh? Anyway, a google image search of my name should garner you many examples of my work. I have a website, deviantart gallery, and there's even a wikipedia entry. Since 1996, I've been constantly working, so there's a lot out there. Recently I did a cover for HEROES OF THE GOLDEN AGE #6 that I thought you might enjoy, so I'll include that here also: www.lostonwallace.com/BlackAngelCover100.jpg An original copy of the Charlton COMIC BOOK GUIDE FOR THE ARTIST/WRITER/LETTERER is indeed hard to find these days, but I'm happy to still have my copy with the mailing envelope. I've had it forever, and it really was one of the first books of its kind. HOW TO DRAW COMICS THE MARVEL WAY was also a big inspiration on me as a kid. Thank you for doing these great videos! I always look forward to learning more about characters from the Golden Age of comicdom!
i WONDER IF THE FOLLOWING IS EVEN POSSIBLE: I've never seen anyone ever talk about/examine in any detail what the heck was going on with Charlton Comics of the 50's and early 60's--ie pre-super hero SF, Mystery-Horror titles with their abysmal childish art and writing---some would say the stories weren't so much written as, er, wrotte!) Ditko would do beautiful covers and some interior art, but most of the stories in titles like SPACE ADVENTURES, OUT OF THIS WORLD, UNUSUAL TALES etc were WAY below everyone else's standards. Maybe this is being mean and negative, but---being someone always interested in the "behind-the-scenes" story---I always wondered who was behind their comics at the time, and just what the heck was going on. Some of the stories looked like they weren't even drawn by artists, but just by anyone who happened to be in the office or walked by in the street (or alley). Is it possible you could unravel some of that strange and very, uh, unique history? And thanks for the very informative videos, including this one which prompted the above question (challenge?) Good stuff!
Hey RSEFX! I did a video on Charlton's superhero line. I go into the founding of the company...that may give you more insight into how the company was run. Charlton was largely the way it was because they had very cheap owners. Charlton also didn't pay very well...one reason why their books are so poorly done.
I just bought 2 books on Basil Wolverton. I teach art to high schoolers and I used to want to draw for marvel/DC but I dunno the new stuff is too slick, and everyone looks like an instagram exaggeration. No charm to the work. I feel like the story has become secondary.
I agree. One thing about digital coloring and current printing is that it really zaps the soul of what the artist brings to the table. Most of it comes off as generic and soul-less. I think this is one of the many reasons why comic book sales have declined over the last 20 years.
Lik i am libertarian ish but i never like ayna rand or robert A. Heinlein Robert A. Heinlein ok people say starship troopers Novel was fascism. Which robert a heinlein was not he was basic a proto sjw ( i am not joke which i found sargon want his liberal World in our and 2 ok i don.t what liberal mean in heinlein time dude i don.t know ) also read Farnham's Freehold dude. Which have a family of White go the future When black people took over and make White people into slaves i am not joking Ayn rand I don,t like being asshole is good for you
Also free Heathcare and free education is not free sort You go whatever collage you want but the tax you pay go to collage and same with free heathcare is free but you pay taxes and in your Hospital and same with Hospital stay so is not free free But again this work.
Nope sorry. I don't remember any of that. Must have been drunk. So I'm guessing you want to borrow some money? Tell you what you laugh while I get you some.
Hi kris! Comicbookplus.com has a lot of the 60s Charltons online...free to read. It turns out that Charlton (in the 1960s) did not properly copyright protect the books they published. When I did my Charlton Action Hero video, I spent weeks reading those Charlton hero books. Fun stuff.
Also with George Orwell is same thing with ayn rand Ayn rand hate religion right hate She hate Ronald Reagan She hate pro life. She also hate capitalism. She also hate gay people ( but that is other story ) Also When Wait George Orwell was socialism that it. Like he would not join Antfia. If George Orwell was alive he would write about how Antfia ruin soclism and berine sanders is the true soiclism god or soical democraft ( soical democraft is fine is work but that is diffrence) and democratic socialism
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Back in the 60s there were a few times deadline was looming, and there was no time to letter the pages. Charlton did the lettering with a special font on an IBM Selectric typewriter. The lettering credit was given to A. Machine.
I only remember seeing this on Ditko's Blue Beetle books. It might has happened elsewhere as well. I did not read the full Charlton line.
Charles Schulz worked at an art school before that. Comic ads also had ads about information on how to draw.
Charlton was first to produce a machine that printed. This book was hard to get I picked it up at the from the Editor.
A lot of *modern* comic book writers and artist can learn a thing or two from books like this, they sure as hell need them.
Honestly, I think that was part of my motivation...a lot of people I talk to are trying to get a graphic novel off the ground. I thought that something like this might help.
Can I get a Amam say it's a again
Regarding the "Ben Day Dots", I remember back in the 80s when I was in London, the racks and racks of Letraset (lettering) and Letratone (dots and other patterns) at the London Graphic Centre. It's amazing how much things have changed. Letraset was a brand name as well known as "Biro" and now it's completely gone. There was a special kind of misery to getting a letter slightly wonky, or running out of one letter.
I love these kind of vids. I do have to say that you have gotten me hooked on the pulps. It started w/The Shadow, then i moved on to the spider, Phantom and so on. Now I'm also hooked on the ol' timey radio shows. Thank you for introducing me to something that I would have never found on my own.
Here is a good resource for OTR. archive.org/details/oldtimeradio
Doc Savage.
Great job
I remember being a very young kid reading Charlton's Emergency! comic, and I also remember reading E-Man # 1 and trying to figure out just what an "exotic dancer" was (she made her living performing dances from foreign lands, I guessed).
Emergency was great, so was The Six Million Dollar Man and Space 1999
I was fortunate enough to meet Nick Cuti IRL. A nicer guy you will never find. His enthusiasm for comics, movies, science fiction and life, in general, is unbounded.
Very cool Robert!
Back in the 60s, Carmine Infantino did a feature called, "How I draw the Flash" that explained the process of producing comics pages from thumbnail sketches of page layouts, penciling and finally inked pages. I think this feature appeared in two issues of The Flash. Until I saw that, I had assumed that cartoonists picked up a pen and brush and drew everything in ink.
Oh wow, now that you mention that, I vaguely remember seeing that as a kid somewhere. I must go and look that up!
@@FizzFop1 If I'm not mistaken, the pages were reprinted in DC Special #1 which was a collection of stories done by Infantino, featuring his work on the Flash, Adam Strange, Detective Chimp, Strange Sports and more. The first installment showed how he drew the Flash, from basic figure drawing to his trademark speed lines and multiple images he used to portray super speed. The second installment showed the process of drawing a comics page from small thumbnail layouts, drafting the panels and penciling the illustrations. It was a real learning experience for me.
@@photoboyjet My collection is an unorganized mess, but I think I might have that book. Thanks!
Sick video dude. I'm actually probably going to pick this up. It looks like it could help me with my own projects.
This book is pretty solid...by the way, when you get the book, check out the back cover!
@@FizzFop1 ok I will. I'm also probably going to get another classic comic how to book known as "manga in theory and practice" by the same dude behind JoJo's bizarre adventure
Another fine production. Quick, to the point and concise. Well done!
Just got my copy in the mail today and looked at the back. I'm going to definitely look into send a story in or something. Thanks for making this video dude.
Now I just need to figure out which story to send in. I don't want a situation where the publisher takes the rights of one of my main stories away from me.
I like the approach to this video. Of course, you're always so informative, but this laid-back style was nice. I'm glad someone is covering the history of comics and not just worshiping at the alter of he big two. I admit to being a DC girl, but I've always loved comics from the past, particular Jungle adventures and super hero stuff from the 40s. So this channel really speaks to me.
That's why I watch channels like FizzFop1 and Comic Book Historian as well as collectors like Charlton 66, Jambo Comics , Captain
Strangelife Comics and Collectibles to see more than just keys and graded books from the big two. As FizzFop1 suggested to another fan go to the website Comic Book Plus where you can read entire issues of Golden Age and Silver Age books from various companies except DC and Marvel. Mike's Amazing World of Comics is another website his website shows the covers of books that were on the newsstands for each month of the year you select to view. There is a website devoted to Atlas Comics : Atlas Tales which is a favorite of mine because it features the other genres from the company; teen humor, war, westerns, jungle, fantasy and horror.
I remember Zipatone (Ben Day dots). I was still working with those overlay sheets and dry-transfer letters for a lot of projects I was doing after getting out of school. I still had some sheets as late as the New Orleans Flood of 2005 all yellowing up somewhere. These days, you could as easily define a Zipatone pattern for your graphics app or to print out on your own dry transfer sheets off the computer.
Hi LordZontar, I ordered some...well see how they work. I hadn't thought about making them...but that would work.
Is it clear like scotch tape .. Or .. I'll just wait for the video.
@@StephenAnderson98403 Zipatone was very much a stick-on overlay, although I do remember dry-transfer halftone screen sheets from the day. You basically cut out the general shape of the area to be covered, peeled off the back, and did a little trim-up with the Exacto knife on the (bristol) board as needed after putting down the overlay. Takes me back quite a few years talking about using Zipatone again.
And yes, halftone screen sheets are still available for about $4.50 a sheet from JetPens. Artists doing Manga-style artwork go for them to get that authentic Manga look:
www.jetpens.com/Deleter-Jr.-Screen-Tone-182-mm-x-253-mm-JR-114/pd/11214?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIl_jh8Oft5QIVlJJbCh26yQ4XEAkYASABEgKSJvD_BwE
Cool video. I love that little book. I showed an original copy on one of my latest vids. I found a copy at Baltimore comic con. It is a welcome addition to my collection. I had Joe Staton sign it. He was happy to see a copy. Enjoyed the video. Take care. Best\Steve.
That's Awesome! Just out of curiosity, what did you pay for the original? I saw it 25 years ago for $50 and I saw it about 10 years ago for $100.
It was $25.00 in vf condition. So happy to have It in the collection.
Someday all comic reviews will be done poolside at a luxury resort.
Cool video.
Interesting to get a little more Charlton history, as well as a look at the nuts and bolts of comics.
Love it. Love it. Love it!! Great vid, I'd be very interested to see more on the Charlton lines or company philosophy, love your channel dude, many thanks :)
I have copy of the original book somewhere in my files. I got it at a comic shop in the late 70s or early 80s. The only other Charlton books I have are the original 10 issues of E-Man.
While I was making this video, I broke out my Charltons...I don't have a complete run of E-Man...I'm missing issue 6 and I have a couple of Modern Comics reprints...but they were fun to read.
@@FizzFop1 I scored a pretty impressive stack of Charlton's this past summer at a second hand store on the Jersey Shore. Mainly the horror ones, bur a few 'action heroes' titles too.
The link for Patreon isn’t in the description.
That lettering thing is kinda ironic, considering the basic typeset Charleton used in the 50's and 60's.
Funny, I was thinking the exact same thing... So many of their books listed credits as "Lettering by: A. Machine"
Oh, and re: your avatar-- "Be seeing you!"
First thing I thought of when I saw this book was how bad their lettering was and how they use to credit "A. Machine" as the letterer....can't believe I forgot to mention that when I made this video.
On Ben Day dots ... you can actually make your own with access to sheets of acetate (non-acidic), digital files of dot screens, and a b&w laser printer. Print the screens onto the acetate, cut it to size, and then glue it onto the drawing with matte finish acrylic varnish or emulsion. Yeah, it's involved, but fun, and you can make your screen patterns however you want. Heck, you could scan hand made textures and print those on your sheets!
Love it! Great video!
Man, I remember seeing this in old Charlton comics!
Omigod! 2:27 Ive had this comic in my memory for decades but I never remembered the title so I didnt even know how to search for it.
Now, that you know it! You can order the reprint off Amazon like I did. It was cheap!
Happy New Year to you my good Sir
Two videos in a couple of days. You’re on fire 🔥 🔥 🔥
I didn’t really give golden age comics a second thought until I found your channel.
Sounds like marvel stole the idea of how to do comics the Marvel way off Charlton.
Hi Mark, I remember Stan Lee at a convention panel mentioning that people ran to him with the book after it came out. They liked the idea, but thought they could do it better.
I meet Stan Lee at a con in 2016. I feel so bad now I know he was being taken advantage of. If knew what I know now I wouldn’t have got him to sign my comic, he seemed sad. Anyways for the first time in my life I was speechless, all I said was thanks and shook his hand. He looked pained, he was 91 at the time and I remember thinking why is he still doing this?
I could of had a much more meaningful conversation with him, like what it was like to work with Jack? But no I did the most normie thing to do and just took advantage of him. I’ll take this regret to my grave.
@@marktrafford1572 I was lucky. Met him a couple of times. I actually got to talk to him back in the 90s and have a real conversation with him back in the 90s.
Great video! However, Joe's last name is "Staton" - pronounced with a long "a" sound.
Would you do a video about the book Seduction of the Innocent?
Your not the first person to request that video...seems to be a popular topic. I didn't have anything in the works, but I may have to re-examine it.
I had a Charlton comic when I was a kid, I don't remember if it was from a series or if it was just a one-off, but it had a cat superhero named Captain Catnip. I have never seen that character turn up anywhere else...
I vaguely remember a Captain Catnip book...it might have been a Gold Key title?
@@FizzFop1 the planets must have lined up just right, because I actually just found the comic: www.amazon.com/CHARLTON-BULLSEYE-Horse-Charlton-store/dp/B075JXY7LM
@@FizzFop1 Belatedly, but it was Charlton. If you search for the character name you can see images of him on the cover of Bullseye #2 - whether he appeared anywhere else I'm not sure. Funny animal super, ala Captain Carrot.
I just bought a copy on kindle; thanks for the tip, Fizz-pop!
Also: if anyone within the range of this text is interested, an 2019 reprint of the Lee/Buscema How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way may be found at the local Five Below store...I still have my copy from the 80s, but I bought two more for reference...not too bad for five dollars each...
I'm the same way Angus...Still have the copy I got for Christmas when I was a kid and have picked up another copy at a Library used book sale.
great vid!
this is great. i used the marvel one a lot. in the 80s
I got really excited when Zack started to talk about using public domain characters. I thought he might bring back some older characters. It’s unfortunate he got scared off by the thought of possible legal action. I totally would have back him.
PD is complicated. There's a lot of usable characters right now. I don't know if anyone is really going to get the chance to use characters like Tarzan or Superman. Would not be surprised if laws are made to protect those characters.
@@FizzFop1 Zorro is a prime example of this. There is a group who goes after anyone who uses Zorro, even though he's in the Public Domain.
As to keeping the characters, the companies use Trade Mark laws to artificially keep the copy right going.
How about a video on The Karate Kid, (not the movie,) and other assorted kung fu characters from comics past?
Oh I wanted that so bad when i was a kiddo! LOL...Charlton Neo forever
I found some ben day type dots but as a png...find a copy shop that still does transparency. oN a quick search found IC Manga Screen Tone S-61 on amazon. Anyway, keep up the good work
Hi Vance! I wanted this book way back when also--only seen it for sale a couple of times until Charlton NEO reprinted it. The price for the original was a little too expensive for my wallet.
I bought the four sheet package I found on Amazon. I thought it might be fun to play with. Now I have to draw a picture worthy of them.
If I had a time machine
I'm a big fan of Charlton Neo and the Charlton Arrow. One of my favorite Charlton characters is Gumbo Galahad, a golden age character from Hillbilly Comics. He recently made an appearance in The Arrow and I was wondering if you could maybe do a video on him one day. Maybe talk about his similarities to other characters like Li'l Abner. If not him maybe you could cover some of Charlton's bronze age horror hosts, like Colonel Whiteshroud, who arguably could be considered a "hero". Just some suggestions. Love your videos. Keep up the good work.
Hi El Coyote Channel! Thanks for watching! I've seen Charlton NEO ads, but haven't seen any of their books. One of the videos I'm working on is a top ten horror hosts from comics and a few of the Charlton characters made the list...I was surprised that there were so many.
@@FizzFop1 I know Countess Von Bludd and Baron Weirwulf off the top of my head, but I think Whiteshroud is the best. I'm so glad you're gonna talk about them.
Oh yeah!!!
When Charlton went out,it stopped giving you a choice of comics in all different kinds of stories to enjoy..
Great video! By the way, they sell zip-a-tone/Ben Day dots at art supply stores like Blick.
Do they? I need to check out Blick...not sure if we have one in my town anymore. Thanks blackphoenix77!
AKA: Deleter Tones
Hi your show is awesome can you feature these characters these are my father's favorites The Lone Ranger or Zorro. Tarzan. Flash Gordon. or The ghost that walks The Phantom. John Carter of Mars. These are characters my father raised me up on and of course Marvel and DC so something featuring these classic characters would be amazing.
Hi Draven, I'm working on a video that's close to what you're asking for.
I used to draw comic books back in the days.... also do you live in Jacksonville Florida I used to live over there in that complex 2 years ago.😉
Hi Fernando! Thanks for watching! No, I live in Columbus Ohio where there's an Applebees on every corner.
@@FizzFop1 well I live in North Carolina now, if you get a chance I make superhero customs look me up on figure realm Wind block 2007
Fun fact. Charlton were the only American comic book publisher to have an English Football League team en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlton_Athletic_F.C.
Is it coincidence that the colours of the Charlton comics logo and those used by the football club are pretty much the same? I don't think so :D
Like the esp. Could you do a show on Com-X made during WW 2. That were just about the war. Or a show on Epic Comics (I loved Alien Legion).
Manga still uses a LOT of Ben Day/zip dots for shading. Though they also have their apprentices do it too.
Hi Michael! Thanks for watching! I bought some Ben Day dots and they had Manga branding on them. They were the only ones I could find.
@@FizzFop1 I don't doubt. They are not that much in favor in the west except among manga inspired artists. Though I'd not a lot of them put them in using computer programs which make using them a considerable amount less of a pain.
Um...Summer is already done, Bub. Also, is Zorro getting an episode on your channel? It’s still his centennial...and no one else has really done anything.
Hi Jack of All Claws...I need to get something on Zorro/Johnston McCulley out. I've sort of gone down a rabbit hole with McCulley. He lived in Columbus Ohio for a while which is where I live. I really want to discover some sort info on him that isn't known...but YES, I need to get a Zorro video out. 100 Years of Zorro-WOW!
FizzFop1 good luck 👍🍀 with the research.
I'm showing my age! I had one of these all those years ago when I thought I might be the next Steve Ditko!
" I thought I might be the next Steve Ditko!" Didn't we all! Lol!
@@FizzFop1 I actually wrote Steve when I got out of the Marines in 1976 offering to go to New York and work for free as his apprentice ala some famous guy (Tesla maybe?) I read about who did the same for Thomas Edison. Unlike Edison, Ditko sent me a two or three page handwritten letter telling me I needed to make up my own mind about life's choices and then preached the (thankfully) cliff notes summary of Ayn Rand's objectivism outlook. I kept the letter for a long time but it eventually went the way of my collection of "No-Prizes", "Merry Marvel Marching Society" membership paperwork, the singalong record and a half-dozen handwritten postcards from the likes of Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Flo and the gang from back in the beginning when they took the time to personally respond to the letters of praise they received. If I had a few of (the right ones) now I might be able to pay off my house selling a couple on the internet. Who knew?
When you do a story with Ben Day Dots, be sure to include the work of Pop Artist Roy Lichtenstein.
There are a couple of large pieces by Roy Lichtenstein in my local art center. (I like the originals they have by Grant Wood, Francis Bacon, Edward Hopper and Georgia O'Keefe.) Ben Day Dots are also called by some, zip-a-tone.
@@vilstef6988 I like Edward Hooper's work.
There is a feeling that Roy Lichtenstein lifted the work ( without due credit) to a well known comic artist. Honestly, all artwork is either inspired or derivated of previous works.
Thanx Fizz Fop you are quickly becoming the third go to guy I go to when I need my comix jones fix, naw just kidding your #1. I wish you had a multi million dollar home too, replete with large leisure wading pool. Maybe one day. So now, thank to you, I can pronounce Buscema and Charlton correctly. Isn't Charlton where Steve Ditko originaly started ? Or did he leave Marvel and go there ? It was awhile ago you know ? And now I also have a better idea how to make my own comic. I already did one, just don't know what to do with it. Except maybe see if the Onion wants to run a strip. What do you think ?
Hey Stefan! Thank you for your kind words. I think Ditko did work at Charlton before working for Marvel. If you're interested in making your own comic, I'm working on another video right up your alley. As for your comic...self publish...there's places like Print Ninja where you can get published-small print runs are affordable. I'm working on a comic too...I might go that route. Also, Alterna Comics offer help for self publishers. You could always sell it on Indiegogo or I was thinking about making a giveaway comic for my local comic shops.
@@FizzFop1 Thanks a lot. I need help publishing, and I need an artist. Plot, script, dialogue, all come naturally to me. But I can't even draw decent stickmen. I will look into things you sggested. Thank you for the direction. When my autobiography is published you'll understand where all the grist for the mill came from. All the best.
Peace.
Now you are like a patreon
And also do the golden amazon
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Also some one need to make conservaite Anarchism. If Paul josphes Watson Said conservaite is new punk rock so fuck make it happend
Conservaite punk rock exist so fuck it i don,t care is oxymoron Hey if ancaps and libertarian socialism is a thing so fuck it
Don,t Believe in race or gender only DNA
Charlton characters definitely had potential. The Peacemaker particularly had huge potential that sadly will never be realized. This hero could have been great combination of James Bond, Batman, more--a really high-brow, and perhaps even a prestigious character. I don't care how popular it may be, I don't like the low-brow muscle-bound anti-hero DC has turned the character into.
How to Make Comics the Charlton Way... meet your business partner in prison, pay the lowest page rates in the industry, print your products on paper that is one quality grade above toilet tissue, destroy original art as soon as it has been pantographed to printing plate size, and operate as a soft money laundering front for the Mob. XD
Seriously, I have a great affection for Charlton books. There are some great tall tales (and some that are strangely true) about this company. Thanks for your 2nd video inside a week!
Hi tartanphantom! You make Charlton sound so glamorous. It might give Marvel ideas.
Call me a patron. 😁
Hi Kardboard Kenny! I think you're the first!
Thought about the new Battlestar galactica reboot Remake second time
You become the go to Every thing thought some make Remake or reboot in say 60s or 70s
Also i want know i never heard story of Orwell Said he quit soicalism i never heard that part of it
The main of animal farm is showing think like Hey Every stalin did is bad as hitler
When you do black cat the Harvey comic one
I say this kinda weird series is first being as a superhero then ec comic knock off then a western staring black cat then silver age sci fi comic
When I made my first list of ten heroes to do...she was on the list. I did the research and wrote a script...and it has just sat in my computer. I would love to do her with some live action scenes like I did with the Black Bat video. I talked to a female martial artist I know about portraying her. She was game but I didn't have the resources to follow through with it.
Will this channel be affected by COPPA?
Hi masterpainter72! It will probably affect my channel. I don't know how yet.
Other idea i have this parody religion ala Flying Spaghetti Monster
New here. Nice work!
Welcome aboard James!
What a great video! I love Charlton stuff! This book was just a very basic pamplet with very little information to would-be artists, but it was awesome all the same. I still have an original copy: www.lostonwallace.com/charlton1.jpg and the original envelope it came in: www.lostonwallace.com/charlton2.jpg Also, I attended the Joe Kubert Art School, and I went on to become a professional comic book artist. That little book was quite inspiring!
It's also Joe Staton, not "Stanton". I used to make that same mistake. It's just something about Joe's last name I guess. Heh.
Hi Loston Wallace! Thanks for watching! That's awesome! I always wanted that book, but I didn't know about it until long after the offer was over. From time to time, I would see it at a con, but it was way out of my price range. Last time I saw it was a few years back and the dealer wanted $60.
Sorry, I'm not familiar with your work...I had to look you up. Your art looks great! I'm currently organizing my collection and I'm pretty sure I have some of your Elvira books. I might even have one or two autographed by Cassandra. I met here a couple of times at horror cons.
Yep, I butchered Staton's name. It's funny, I can spend weeks working on a video...months/years if you include research...and there will be something that slips through that I won't catch until after the video is posted. It drives me crazy, and it happens on almost every video. The worst part with this one...I knew the guy's name. I said it wrong when I was reading the script and never caught it. When I edited the audio, it never jumped out at me. When I edited the video, it never jumped out at me. It was about a month after posting to RUclips when I discovered the mistake. LOL! How does this happen?
@@FizzFop1 I spent 11 years doing licensing work for DC Comics kids books from BATMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES, SUPERMAN THE ANIMATED SERIES, SUPER FRIENDS, etc. My most recent comic book art was the cover for IDW's ROM #4 (also the cover for ROM: COLD FIRE, HOT WAR): www.lostonwallace.com/rom4.jpg and I pencilled issue #2 of the IDW/DC Comics mini series ROCKETEER/SPIRIT: www.razorfine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/pulp-friction-2-cover.jpg I was an RPG game illustrator for 5 years before doing the kids books, and I do comics whenever I get a chance to. Currently, I'm illustrating packaging art for action figures for Boss Fight Studio. I've been providing the backing card packaging art for FLASH GORDON and PHANTOM figure lines in the past few months. I once pencilled a FLASH GORDON Sunday strip for King Features back in 2003, so it's a treat to be drawing those heroes! I'm very much into vintage and pulp heroes. No wonder I enjoy your channel, eh? Anyway, a google image search of my name should garner you many examples of my work. I have a website, deviantart gallery, and there's even a wikipedia entry. Since 1996, I've been constantly working, so there's a lot out there.
Recently I did a cover for HEROES OF THE GOLDEN AGE #6 that I thought you might enjoy, so I'll include that here also: www.lostonwallace.com/BlackAngelCover100.jpg
An original copy of the Charlton COMIC BOOK GUIDE FOR THE ARTIST/WRITER/LETTERER is indeed hard to find these days, but I'm happy to still have my copy with the mailing envelope. I've had it forever, and it really was one of the first books of its kind. HOW TO DRAW COMICS THE MARVEL WAY was also a big inspiration on me as a kid. Thank you for doing these great videos! I always look forward to learning more about characters from the Golden Age of comicdom!
@@lostonwallace1396 The Black Angel cover looks sweet.
I gave a shout out in my newest video .
Thanks Bucky749!
i WONDER IF THE FOLLOWING IS EVEN POSSIBLE: I've never seen anyone ever talk about/examine in any detail what the heck was going on with Charlton Comics of the 50's and early 60's--ie pre-super hero SF, Mystery-Horror titles with their abysmal childish art and writing---some would say the stories weren't so much written as, er, wrotte!) Ditko would do beautiful covers and some interior art, but most of the stories in titles like SPACE ADVENTURES, OUT OF THIS WORLD, UNUSUAL TALES etc were WAY below everyone else's standards. Maybe this is being mean and negative, but---being someone always interested in the "behind-the-scenes" story---I always wondered who was behind their comics at the time, and just what the heck was going on. Some of the stories looked like they weren't even drawn by artists, but just by anyone who happened to be in the office or walked by in the street (or alley). Is it possible you could unravel some of that strange and very, uh, unique history?
And thanks for the very informative videos, including this one which prompted the above question (challenge?) Good stuff!
Hey RSEFX! I did a video on Charlton's superhero line. I go into the founding of the company...that may give you more insight into how the company was run. Charlton was largely the way it was because they had very cheap owners. Charlton also didn't pay very well...one reason why their books are so poorly done.
I just bought 2 books on Basil Wolverton. I teach art to high schoolers and I used to want to draw for marvel/DC but I dunno the new stuff is too slick, and everyone looks like an instagram exaggeration. No charm to the work. I feel like the story has become secondary.
I agree. One thing about digital coloring and current printing is that it really zaps the soul of what the artist brings to the table. Most of it comes off as generic and soul-less. I think this is one of the many reasons why comic book sales have declined over the last 20 years.
@@FizzFop1 Same. It all looks the same to me. Something has been lost.
Ok again golden amazon which was basic female tarzan not really John carter ish more but
Other idea is maybe Filmation retrospective whatever is there cartoon or live action no one talk filmation love action
Or The Six Million Dollar Man
Lik i am libertarian ish but i never like ayna rand or robert A. Heinlein
Robert A. Heinlein ok people say starship troopers Novel was fascism. Which robert a heinlein was not he was basic a proto sjw ( i am not joke which i found sargon want his liberal World in our and 2 ok i don.t what liberal mean in heinlein time dude i don.t know ) also read Farnham's Freehold dude. Which have a family of White go the future When black people took over and make White people into slaves i am not joking
Ayn rand
I don,t like being asshole is good for you
Also free Heathcare and free education is not free sort
You go whatever collage you want but the tax you pay go to collage and same with free heathcare is free but you pay taxes and in your Hospital and same with Hospital stay so is not free free
But again this work.
Nope sorry. I don't remember any of that. Must have been drunk. So I'm guessing you want to borrow some money? Tell you what you laugh while I get you some.
"Borrow Money?"
If my post confused you go to 5:14 read page 7 and end with my post
@@nooctip Nice one!
I wish they would re-release all the old comics so we could read them online.
The old comics were NORMAL compared to today's sjw flavor of the week.
Hi kris! Comicbookplus.com has a lot of the 60s Charltons online...free to read. It turns out that Charlton (in the 1960s) did not properly copyright protect the books they published. When I did my Charlton Action Hero video, I spent weeks reading those Charlton hero books. Fun stuff.
@@FizzFop1 Thank you I did not know that!
If you don't hear from me for awhile you'll know where I am! :P
Also with George Orwell is same thing with ayn rand
Ayn rand hate religion right hate She hate Ronald Reagan She hate pro life. She also hate capitalism. She also hate gay people ( but that is other story )
Also When Wait George Orwell was socialism that it. Like he would not join Antfia.
If George Orwell was alive he would write about how Antfia ruin soclism and berine sanders is the true soiclism god or soical democraft ( soical democraft is fine is work but that is diffrence) and democratic socialism