These guys aren't lost, they keep popping up in major roles in DC Comics, and Plastic Man is constant character in both comics and cartoons (he's my favorite, btw)
Blackhawk was seen in “Justice League New Frontier” along with their battle cry, “Haaaawkaaaaaa” as they fight against the Center. Awesome moment in the movie
What DC has done, or Rather NOT DID- w/ the BLACKHAWKS mythology is A Sin !!!!!!! > Please, allow me to explain. Some of the Greatest Golden Age & Silver-age Villains sit there in A suspended animation like Limbo! AWESOME Villains like; Gas Master, Eel Madden, Death Mayhew, Killer Shark, the Org Black Widow, Baron Bllitz (or Blitzkreig), The Crimson Corsair, Kid Condor, Captain Hood, Red the Executioner, Madam Butterfly, Mind-Master, the Storm King, Overlord Supreme & who could ever forget the War Wheel !!! To name just A few ..... If DC were smart- They would take The BLACKHAWKS & the Lovely Lady Blackhawk- Zinda (from Simone's BoP.) throw in some _"Red Tails"_ (Tuskegee airman) action. An you have A Great dynamic! Along w/ All those great Villains, add in alittle Time travel (noted below) and you have yourself A Blockbuster Movie trilogy! It's this simple DC @Warnerbros ________________ The first movie starts introductory in WW1. You meet the BLACKHAWK patriarchy; 99% of which parish as Pt.1 (the 1st movie) ends.. Falling to the rise of Nazi occult magic! The initial movie secludes, while introducing Immortal like & somewhat super-powered Nazi's! E.g. Death Mayhew, Gas Master, Madam Butterfly & Baron Blitzkreig- following the rise of Overlord Supreme. Who worship the secret Inner-earth Vril-ya (where you get CrAZy Villains like Killer Shark, King Cobra & Negative Man). Pt.2 (the BLACKHAWKS sequel) is during the WW2 era. Where the Tuskegee airman come in w/ Zinda, They pick-up the Blackhawk mantle & creed. Taking the lead as the New BLACKHAWK Squadron! Forming under that BLACKHAWK sigil, they rise up as one & crushe the Nazi's !!! > Of course A few escape (like Hitler did in real life) during the Fall of Berlin. Yet these Evil survivors team w/ the remaining Vril Lords (the origin of the Occult magic) & escape into modern day in like A UFO time machine. Pt.3 (the 3rd Movie) is in modern times. Where THE time displaced BLACKHAWKS (who chased the Nazi UFO into the wormhole) our in the modern JLA timeline. Right alongside w/ your main DC Heroes Superman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern etc. As the relic BLACKHAWKS amazed buy the modern world, search out to find & destroy the now rising 4th reich. But Little do they know, that in Modern times Decades had past (in the mere 30 Seconds that they were behind chasing the Evil UFO into the wormhole). & During those Years - mere seconds to the BLACKHAWKS - the Time traveling Nazi's had impregnated themselves into the American industrial military complex (like in real life, how Nazi science built NASA / see Project: // Op. Paperclip). An essentialy the Battle continues in modern times. Where the roles our somewhat reversed. Because The Time displaced & somewhat Super-Powerd Nazi's & Vril Lords don't quite stand out as the obvious evil, like they once did in the earlier 2 period piece movies. Intresting huh ?? Thus Flipping the Pt.3 dynamic on its head. You could even squeeze in A "Seven Soldiers of Victory" (see: JLoA 100-102) movie, having its occurence in between BLACKHAWKS 2 & 3. Adding even more of interesting character dynamic to A blockbuster BLACKHAWKS trilogy finale. Thus making the scripts over-all timeline now 4 Movies! If you wanted to do the JLoA 100 story that is..
I have the entire Sprit Archives collection. The stories are amazing. I liked the movie too...its not that bad. I'm a huge Plastic Man fan too! We want a movie for Plas!
One of my favorites (in a "so bad that's he's... actually still pretty bad" way) that wasn't mentioned is Just'N'Right. He was a hero whose real name was Justin Wright. He assumed that nobody would ever make the connection between Justin Wright and the superhero named Just N Right. Oh, but he had the perfect disguise: he took one of his mother's scarfs and wrapped it around his face. And that's all he did to disguise himself.
DC had a Blackhawk comic for years after the acquisition. THey've been revived several times with the most famous revivals done by Howard Chaykin in the 1980s(?) as well as Lady Blackhawk being a supporting character in the early 2000s Birds of Prey comic book. They had appearances of the Blackhawks in 3 episodes of the Justice League/Unlimited animated series: a 2-parter that took place in a past where Vandal Savage took over the Third Reich (JL), and a later Justice League Unlimited episode where the Legion of Doom invaded Blackhawk Island to steal the Spear of Destiny.
I would agree that DC never did Plastic Man and Captain Marvel justice aside from the Monster Society of Evil mini by Jeff Smith but I haven't read enough Blackhawk. I only borrowed and read the one DC Archive from the library and it made no great impression on me. I've just never been a fan of war comics. I did like the appearances in the animated shows but am not surprised people don't care for most of the modern interpretations. There a lot of very far-left types in modern comics and they can't tell an entertaining story that isn't a critique on people to the right of Chairman Mao to save their lives.
Plastic Man, and Uncle Sam And The Freedom Fighters are some of my favorites! DC Comics owns them now, but Quality had them first! Thanks for doing this!
Not only is The Spirit my favorite Quality character, he's also may favorite comic character of all time. Eisner was a true master of graphic storytelling.
Hi tartanphantom! I first came across The Spirit when I was in 8th or 9th grade through the Kitchen Sink reprints. The very first comic shop in my area had it on the shelves. It was love at first site. Great book! Eisner is amazing!
@@lindacherone4688 Hi Linda! Yeah, The Spirit movie was lacking a certain zest. It doesn't really have the feel of The Spirit. It's a little tedious to watch.
The Spirit was NOT a Quality Comics character. He was always owned by Will Eisner; the Eisner State (managed by Denis Kitchen), still manages licensing of The Spirit. DC Comics never owned the character -- DC just managed and helped Kitchen restore and curate the original Spirit comic strips. DC had reprint rights for The Spirit even after they stopped creating original, new Spirit comics (under the DC Comics imprint) the best of which were the issues that Darwyn Cooke did. They did a "Red Label" DC Comics imprint of new Spirit stories but sales were awful and that got canceled quickly. In modern times, I think Darwyn Cooke is the only comic creator who really captured the feel of The Spirit. I wish they had adapted his Batman/Spirit crossover story into an animated film, it could have been very good and would have been a shot in the arm for the character after the disaster of the awful Frank Miller Spirit movie! The Spirit's been published or reprinted by Quality Comics, Kitchen Sink Press (defunct; Denis Kitchen's publishing company), Dark Horse, DC Comics, and most recently, Dynamite. ***** ****** Quality Comics just did reprints of the Spirit comic strips. The only original Spirit art for the Quality Comics would probably be the covers featuring The Spirit but the rest of The Spirit stories in those Quality Police Comics issues were reprints. Midnight, the Quality Comics Spirit clone/rip-off, was a Quality character. (DC owns Midnight but has done VERY LITTLE with the character. I think his last new appearance was in an All-Star Comics issue in the 1980s! I think not much has been done with Midnight at DC Comics out of respect for Will Eisner and acknowledgment of his ownership of The Spirit; Midnight is just too obvious a knock-off.) Midnight was created by Jack Cole because the Quality Comics editor/owner was afraid Will Eisner might get killed in a combat zone during World War II and that his company would lose original Spirit material. The funny thing is that Will Eisner later recruited Jack Cole to do artwork for The Spirit comic strip! I don't think Eisner held Midnight against Jack Cole. Eisner understood the comic book game -- there were an awful lot of "homages" back then and even Eisner was contracted to do his own take on Superman called "Wonder Man." I don't think Wonder Man's single issue has been reprinted to this day because of the DC Comics lawsuit. They sued that Superman knock-off out of existence after one issue! They were supposed to reprint the Wonder Man comic book in a Fantagraphics book about Golden Age superheroes over 10 years ago but I think DC Comics blocked it after they saw the solicitation for that book. I used to own that book and I wanted to read the Wonder Man comic. I'm sure it's up online somewhere now...
I'd read about the Spirit and been mildly interested as a kid. Then at a low-grade comic convention, I saw one of the Warren magazine reprint jobs of the Spirit -- I think it was the second or third one with the Spirit facing off against some femme fatale character around a decrepit, chimney-sized building with some kid trapped in a barred cell built into it -- and fell in love with the stories within. Yes, I know, I know... Ebony is almost unforgivably stereotyped in his portrayal, but a shallow dismissal of a character that, at least in Will Eisner's hands, was a real person with a soul, interests, and relatability underneath.
I was fond of The Human Bomb, and when I saw The Spirit listed as #3 on your countdown, I was puzzled. Then I saw Plastic Man as #2, and the Blackhawks as #1 confirmed my opinion of your judgment. You got it.
Ebony at first glance appears to be nothing more than a stereotype. As you read the stories, you realize that Eisner gave Ebony a lot more depth than many of the other characters in his stories.
Another fine episode. My wife & I always enjoy them and get excited when we are notified of a new one. Thank you so much for doing your homework, using your technological skills and paying homage to the heroes, heroines and villains of yesteryear...with class! Well done.
Alright your back I've been waiting patiently to see more of you're awesome content I love hearing about obscured superheroes and comic book companies that I've never heard of so your channel has been missed it's good to see you back again making videos hope you're feeling better now.
I was born in 1950, but I remember "Phantom Lady", especially her "Black Light" that caused several bad guys to crash their cars when they suddenly couldn't see. I also remember, but can't name, a comic about a fat kid who sucked lollipops. I might be confusing the multiple umbrellas belonging to The Penguin, but I believe his lollipops came with different abilities. Could his name have been "Herbie"? No clue who published these comic books, at that time, you bought your favorites, whoever made them, and pretty much ignored the rest unless a friend advised on that character. My all time favorite was Superman, as who didn't want to fly.
His name was Herbie Popnecker, also known as The Fat Fury. He first appeared about 1958 in Forbidden Worlds from the American Comics Group and his adventures ran for most of the 1960s. They were fun adventures, whimsical in the way the original Captain Marvel was. ☺
I never knew the origin of Kid Eternity, but you didn't explain his power: he can call up any person from history to help him take care of a situation. It was always interesting to see who he would call up, and find out just how helpful they actually were in any particular situation. When I first got into comics in the late 70s, I really liked the Freedom Fighters, where DC put several of the Quality comics characters into a super-group. I was a bit disappointed to find out that the FF were a 70s creation, and not a revival of a Golden Age super-team. Roy Thomas or someone should retroactively put the Freedom Fighters into the 1940s! And while I've not always been a fan of the revived characters, there has certainly been some great moments with Blackhawk and Plastic man at different times.
Marvel did this a lot, took some basic c-list character and made it big. Mr Fantastic is SO much more interesting than Plastic Man that we have to thank Kirby and Lee for their 'recycling' ways.
Torchy always holds a special place in my heart. I was introduced to Torchy (and her creator Bill Ward) in the early 90’s because of a series of reprints. Those books ended up being a huge inspiration on my own artistic style.
Those 40s Blackhawk stories are really good. Great artwork. There's no doubt why Blackhawk was so popular back in the 40s and 50s. I believe it was the only character driven book DC continued publishing uninterrupted after they purchased the Quality line.
They reprinted virtually all the Phantom Lady stories from the Golden Age of Comics in the PS Artbooks Phantom Lady Archives. I've got both archives in hardcover. They were available on the second-hand, used bookstores market for less than $20 a piece a few years back. Those PS Artbooks hardcovers reprint a lot of old, public domain comics from the 1940s and 1950s. Most of it IS forgettable but occasionally they have some gems that show up. I got the Phantom Lady books based on visual appeal. The stories are -- to be honest, I can't remember a SINGLE Phantom Lady storyline! LOL Yeah, the stories were mediocre at best. In and out... almost like a mindwipe! I have better memories of Marvel Comics I read in the 1980s than these Phantom Lady stories that I read less than 4 years ago! DC still owns the Phantom Lady character and trademark but failed to renew the copyrights on these stories in the 1960s and 1970s. By then, I bet hardly anybody remembered this character and most of these big companies have no idea of what all they own. I'd say well over half the Golden Age comics ever published are public domain now - that includes virtually every Quality and Fawcett comic ever published! Sad to say, even though they can't really stop reprints, DC owns these characters and you can bet they WOULD sue or be obnoxious if people don't get DC's permission before they do ANY kind of reprint -- especially with the Marvel Family characters, Plastic Man, Blackhawk. These are IP's they consider still have value. For 20 years, they've been talking about doing a Plastic Man movie. Quicksilver doesn't really exist anymore. The character got rebranded as Max Mercury in the early 1990s and while they kept the costume he's an utterly different charactet today. Of course, the reason they no longer call him "Quicksilver" is because Marvel owns that name was well as lot of Golden Age character names that fell into obscurity and weren't renewed when they had to be (Daredevil, Captain Marvel, and a ton of names Marvel Comics trademarked for their own characters in the 1960s). The Spirit really isn't a Quality character. Quality Comics just did reprints of the Will Eisner Spirit comic book specials and strips. The Spirit was always owned by Will Eisner and his Estate controls that now. DC had rights or still retains rights to do Spirit reprints but Dynamite does the new SPirit comics now. Those comics must not be selling well, though. I got a $40 reprint volume of a collection of Dynamite Spirit comics for $10 yesterday! But then again, a LOT of trade collections and hardcovers of comic books are on firesale right now if you've been following the situation with the collapse of the US comic book market and all these graphic novels that have been dumped. A lot of that trash has ended up at discount outlet stores like Ollie's and some used bookstores. The used bookstores tend to get the better-quality stuff...
@@AvengerII You are correct that most of the Golden Age comics are in the public domain. There are two websites, Comic Book Plus and the Digital Comics Museum have just about every Golden Age comic available to read and download. There are some Canadian and British GA comics available as well. DC and Timely books are not available, but Quality, Fawcett and Charleton from the 60s are.
@@tygrkhat4087 The Quality and Fawcett comics I'm aware of are exceptional. Plastic Man, Blackhawk, and of course the Marvel Family and Spy Smasher comics are excellent. Plastic Man, Captain Marvel, and The Spirit are 3 of my favorite Golden Age characters. I daresay The Spirit run is possibly the best comic book from the Golden Age.
Great video dude. I never realized how many classic comic characters I love and enjoy where made by quality. I new for some of them like black hawk and plastic man but i didn't know lady luck or madam fatal where made by them. Facinating
Hi holozlaer 235! Your making comics? Awesome! I'm working on my art skills. I'm trying to get something going. I just move slow on everything these days. lol
@@FizzFop1 same hear. With the comic I'm getting close to making is luckily not super art intensive do to it being a semi revival to an old webcomic character who was originally drawn in Ms paint so I don't feel Uber pressured by myself to get everything right because he's simple to draw my other comic my friend will be mainly drawing and then I have two other personal project comics that are farther down the road including one that has been directly inspired by your channel and videos also there will be public domain superheroes in all my comics and there will be a team which I've been putting together for awhile now but I finally think I got a good roster the only member I will mention hear is dear devil is the leader the rest of the members will be a surprise. Anyways glad to hear you're working on your art skills hope you get to a skill level your comfortable with.
kid eternity was always one of the most underutilised characters DC brought, you've got a guy who can summon heroes and assistants from any point in reality and you bearly have even appeared, given how earth 10 is effectively earth quality comics I'm surprised he never joined the freedom fighters or a teen titans equivalent. have you considered doing a history video on Harvey Comics? it would tie nicely into your atlas comics vids thanks to the great Ernie Colon.
This is probably no longer in continuity, but in the Bronze Age, Kid Eternity was linked with the Fawcett characters, to the point that he and Freddy (Captain Marvel Jr) Freeman were actually brothers.
Kid Eternity *did* join one version of the Teen Titans. His teammates were people like Kid Devil, Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes), Miss Martian, Static, Wonder Girl (Cassie Sandsmark), and Aquagirl II. Not exactly the most iconic version of the Teen Titans, but it still counts.
*Colonoscopy* I'm just reading a 1979 marvel comic with two stories one (a swordwielding barbarian story) by Ernie *Colon* and one by Gene *Colan* - _Starlord_ the origin /adventures of Peter Quill. Harvey would be interesting - I first saw _The Spirit_ in the excellent Harvey reprints.
Even back then characters like this were cringe bruh. African Americans actually got Fawcett to shut down Steamboat, a similar character who assisted Captain Marvel. You don't need to uncritically cheerlead 1940s racism.
Oh man its funny, yesterday I was asking myself when the last time u made a video. I love the history ununcover and i always search nd check out the comics u talk about. Its funny after me asking that, u upload a new one today lol
Great video love the quality. Are you ever going to do a video on how ac comics reprints Golden age comics as well as using public domain characters ( miss victory and phantom lady ) in their femforce books ?
Hi awesomeatronik! I love those AC Comics. They come up in a few of my videos like my Phantom Lady video. I haven't thought about it, but it would be a great topic.
@@FizzFop1 cool i saw the phantom lady video and was surprised that you actually talked about the ac/dc legal situation thanks for all the cool videos about golden age heroes keep up the good work.
One I noticed that you did miss was Black Condor. The fact that he was taking over the identity of a secretly assassinated sitting US Senator (!!) as his alter ego was worth a few words.
I use to love reading comics as a kid of the 70's. Marvel & DC , Battle , Warlord , Victor , 2000AD , Look in , Beano , Topper , Dandy , TV Comic , Roy of the Rovers , others I have forgotten over the years. Shame kids of today don't read comics anymore. Its all Computer games now days.
DC Comics recently put Plastic Man on a team called The Terrifics. There are some similarities to Marvel"s Fantastic Four, but I've loved the book since the first issue! I suggest you check it out.
Nice video! I (and many others) bought Blackhawks as a kid in the 1950's. After DC took over they gradually went downhill and I stopped buying them. They were a WW2 and Cold War thing and became passe in the 1960's. Still trying to complete my collection. Watching recent RUclips videos I see that the Nazis and Japanese actually did have prototypes of some of the "unbelievable" weapon machines seen in Blackhawk. I agree with your ratings, would give The Spirit and Plastic Man very high ratings too. He was originally supposed to be called Rubber Man and I forget why they changed the name.
Hi Camilo! Funny you should mention Zorro...I've got a partially done video listing the other heroes of Johnston McCulley who is the guy who created Zorro. A couple of weeks ago, I even found myself drawing Zorro in some fencing poses. I tried to draw him on a horse-but my horses don't look right.
I know alot of comics fans are saying the Spirit and Blackhawk are their favorites but Plastic Man is my favorite by far. Humor in both classic funny books and modern comics are soo underrated and the Plastic Man comics were a perfect mix of the two
i grew up thru the Plastic Man era and remember reading the comics my uncle had and watching the TV show.. yea, im old..lol really wish my uncle had held onto the books, he is where i got my love of comics from
Kid Eternity, a boy superhero who was attacked and nearly died at sea at the hands of Nazis along with his grandfather, only to be saved thanks to the partial intervention of a white-bearded ethereal being and allowed to live, granted powers that are activated by stating his nom de guerre. Sounds oddly familar... Yes, I am talking about Captain Marvel, Jr. In fact, E. Nelson Bridwell (at least I think it was he) did a then-modern story in the Seventies which revealed the Kid and Junior were brothers and, if not for Captain Marvel saving his life, it was Freddy Freeman and not Christopher ("Kid") Freeman who was meant to die. The nitpicker in me wants to point out Kid Eternity lived on Earth-Quality rather than Earth-Fawcett, but still, the coincidental similarities of the story practically beg to be tied together.
Still thinking about this.... perhaps Kid and Junior are alternate reality versions of one another, not unlike a midway point between the Earth-1 and Earth-2 versions of Batman or Superman (same secret identities and families) and the Flash or Green Lantern (differences in their powers and how they came about).
Hi Jack of All Claws! The Quality characters are in a strange state of public domain...the original quality stories get reprinted from other companies from time to time, but DC's ownership prevents anyone from creating new stories using these characters.
@@FizzFop1 Some people have talked about a separate Earth on the infinite multiverse dubbed "Quality Earth" as their stories on Earth-X and their retroactive existence on Earth-Two don't seem to fit well together. I guess you could say that if it's public domain, it "happened" on "Quality Earth". There's something that I've never been able to figure out, has The Spirit ever been part of a DC continuity? Why does it seem as if he has a whole reality (or realities) for himself?
@Cool Guy So I could put out a Plastic Man comic with the character looking and acting like Plastic Man . All that I'd have to do is call him " The Gumband?"
Quality Comics as well as a host of other Golden Age comics are in the public domain. Anybody in the comments section here can make their own Kid Eternity movie if they wanted.
I'm not so sure about that Kenny...DC somehow managed to save the trademarks...but let the copyright pass into public domain...I think that's what happened...you can reprint the Quality Comics stories all you want, but if you try and make a new story, DC would be all over you in a heartbeat. That's why these characters don't see new relaunches from a dozen different publishers.
Great video. 2:15 there's never before been a more epically pronounced, "Number nine." Lou Fine's art is so good! 3:26 Lou Fine and Gil Kane seem to share similar style of action and page layout, huh! Thanks for creating this cool video, FizzFop1
Hi Bookie Jar! Thanks for watching. I have so many Victor Fox stories I want to tell. I wrote a script, but it would have been an hour and half long. lol.
Although I love the current Freedom Fighters line-up (Black Condor, Uncle Sam, Phantom Lady, Doll Woman, and the Human Bomb), I have been a fan of Plastic Man for many years.
The Spirt. The artwork of Eisner was as much character as the Spirit and the background players. His graphic lettering the Spirt and bending cityscapes into the manifestation of the story rather than just a backdrop. Warren Magazine published a series of full-size magazines back in the mid-seventies, and that was my introduction to the Spirt.
I enjoyed the list, but one thing I'd really like on this type of video is some idea of how you made your decisions on rank. I would have probably have agreed with 6 or 7 of your top 10, but my order would have been almost completely different. Then again, my idea of which of their characters is/was popular is based more on what's been done with them since DC took over, so it would be interesting to know if you were only considering their Quality appearances or if something else went into the decisions.
Hi Jack! Thanks for watching! I based the list on the popularity of characters in the 1940s. For example, Blackhawk was HUGE in the 1940s. He was the only Quality character with a radio show or a serial. He was Quality top selling book from start to finish. Today, he's probably one of the least known. I sort of based the list on what info I could find. Phantom Lady is probably the character that doesn't deserve to be on the list, but i factored in her time with publishers Ajax and Fox. If I really made the list correctly Kid Eternity would have probably been in the number 4 spot.
@@FizzFop1 Thanks - I had kind of guessed that, since I would have put Plastic Man at the top of the last, based on his cartoon and JLA membership, but the list works much better knowing that.
DC needs to have an ongoing that utilizes all of these characters instead of having them all sit on a shelf. Include some of the never used characters like Bozo the Iron Man. Rock Marvel’s world with a character that had the name before Tony Stark did.
This line is a gold mine of characters begging to be re-imagined. DC is such a intellectual wasteland. In the next 10-15 years, these characters will be in public domain (that is as long as the current laws are in place), and I think it will be a great opportunity for fans and indies to show what can be done with them.
@@FizzFop1 DC is to busy putting out nothing but Batman books every month. I always loved the Freedom Fighters. They could do a maxi run and include more characters in it than just the core team.
Hercules was a popular superhero out of Greek/Roman mythology. Quality Comics did stories of him. MARVEL Comics in later years also used him for their superhero collection Stan Lee created. I am sure there were other comics that are defunct did their own Hercules stories too.
I might be wrong, but the Quality Hercules was actually Joe Hercules, a super strong guy. He wasn't literally the Greek demigod. So a little different wrinkle to the typical depiction.
@@FizzFop1 I know Gold Key did Samson as a blind superhero fighting monster villains. Any Charlton and GoldKey comic book heroes in your video collection? There must be dozens of defunct comic book companies and superheroes we don't know about until we visit your channel.
Hi again Jack! DC owns the character, but the original Quality books (for reprint purposes) are in public domain...although I think DC would send lawyers after anyone who would try it.
Hi Kardboard Kenny! Thanks for watching! I know! That line of characters could hold their own any day. It's just a shame DC hasn't given them a real chance to shine.
These guys aren't lost, they keep popping up in major roles in DC Comics, and Plastic Man is constant character in both comics and cartoons (he's my favorite, btw)
Blackhawk was seen in “Justice League New Frontier” along with their battle cry, “Haaaawkaaaaaa” as they fight against the Center. Awesome moment in the movie
they were in Justice League before that, bringing them into their animated universe
I always liked Plastic Man, I used to watch the cartoon as a kid.
The Blackhawks were inspired by the famous Polish fighter pilots. You can see them flying in the Movie, The Battle Of Britain.
Originally, Blackhawk was Polish. Later, probably as a move to forestall any "foreigner" protests, he was retconned as an American.
What DC has done, or Rather NOT DID- w/ the BLACKHAWKS mythology is A Sin !!!!!!!
> Please, allow me to explain. Some of the Greatest Golden Age & Silver-age Villains sit there in A suspended animation like Limbo! AWESOME Villains like; Gas Master, Eel Madden, Death Mayhew, Killer Shark, the Org Black Widow, Baron Bllitz (or Blitzkreig), The Crimson Corsair, Kid Condor, Captain Hood, Red the Executioner, Madam Butterfly, Mind-Master, the Storm King, Overlord Supreme & who could ever forget the War Wheel !!! To name just A few .....
If DC were smart- They would take The BLACKHAWKS & the Lovely Lady Blackhawk- Zinda (from Simone's BoP.) throw in some _"Red Tails"_ (Tuskegee airman) action. An you have A Great dynamic!
Along w/ All those great Villains, add in alittle Time travel (noted below) and you have yourself A Blockbuster Movie trilogy!
It's this simple DC @Warnerbros
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The first movie starts introductory in WW1. You meet the BLACKHAWK patriarchy; 99% of which parish as Pt.1 (the 1st movie) ends.. Falling to the rise of Nazi occult magic! The initial movie secludes, while introducing Immortal like & somewhat super-powered Nazi's! E.g. Death Mayhew, Gas Master, Madam Butterfly & Baron Blitzkreig- following the rise of Overlord Supreme. Who worship the secret Inner-earth Vril-ya (where you get CrAZy Villains like Killer Shark, King Cobra & Negative Man).
Pt.2 (the BLACKHAWKS sequel) is during the WW2 era. Where the Tuskegee airman come in w/ Zinda, They pick-up the Blackhawk mantle & creed. Taking the lead as the New BLACKHAWK Squadron! Forming under that BLACKHAWK sigil, they rise up as one & crushe the Nazi's !!!
> Of course A few escape (like Hitler did in real life) during the Fall of Berlin. Yet these Evil survivors team w/ the remaining Vril Lords (the origin of the Occult magic) & escape into modern day in like A UFO time machine.
Pt.3 (the 3rd Movie) is in modern times. Where THE time displaced BLACKHAWKS (who chased the Nazi UFO into the wormhole) our in the modern JLA timeline. Right alongside w/ your main DC Heroes Superman, Batman, Flash, Green Lantern etc.
As the relic BLACKHAWKS amazed buy the modern world, search out to find & destroy the now rising 4th reich. But Little do they know, that in Modern times Decades had past (in the mere 30 Seconds that they were behind chasing the Evil UFO into the wormhole). & During those Years - mere seconds to the BLACKHAWKS - the Time traveling Nazi's had impregnated themselves into the American industrial military complex (like in real life, how Nazi science built NASA / see Project: // Op. Paperclip). An essentialy the Battle continues in modern times. Where the roles our somewhat reversed. Because The Time displaced & somewhat Super-Powerd Nazi's & Vril Lords don't quite stand out as the obvious evil, like they once did in the earlier 2 period piece movies.
Intresting huh ?? Thus Flipping the Pt.3 dynamic on its head.
You could even squeeze in A "Seven Soldiers of Victory" (see: JLoA 100-102) movie, having its occurence in between BLACKHAWKS 2 & 3. Adding even more of interesting character dynamic to A blockbuster BLACKHAWKS trilogy finale. Thus making the scripts over-all timeline now 4 Movies! If you wanted to do the JLoA 100 story that is..
Didnt Batman in one comic went to Warsaw to search for Blackhawk’s grave ?
Will Eisner was such a great talent. His influence was obvious in the work of Jim Steranko and others.
I have the entire Sprit Archives collection. The stories are amazing. I liked the movie too...its not that bad. I'm a huge Plastic Man fan too! We want a movie for Plas!
One of my favorites (in a "so bad that's he's... actually still pretty bad" way) that wasn't mentioned is Just'N'Right. He was a hero whose real name was Justin Wright. He assumed that nobody would ever make the connection between Justin Wright and the superhero named Just N Right. Oh, but he had the perfect disguise: he took one of his mother's scarfs and wrapped it around his face. And that's all he did to disguise himself.
It comes across less as a parody of superheroes more than an actual attempt at writing one.
Competing with Maxwell Smart and Dudley Doright in intelligence.
Thank you for bringing nostalgic Golden Age to us comic fan's!! I could get lost in them comics. Beautiful!🙏
My pleasure Tazz!!! I love getting lost in those comics because I never know where they will take me.
Somehow despite Plastic Man and Blackhawk Quality died off for no good reason, DC has never done justice to them.
DC had a Blackhawk comic for years after the acquisition. THey've been revived several times with the most famous revivals done by Howard Chaykin in the 1980s(?) as well as Lady Blackhawk being a supporting character in the early 2000s Birds of Prey comic book. They had appearances of the Blackhawks in 3 episodes of the Justice League/Unlimited animated series: a 2-parter that took place in a past where Vandal Savage took over the Third Reich (JL), and a later Justice League Unlimited episode where the Legion of Doom invaded Blackhawk Island to steal the Spear of Destiny.
I would agree that DC never did Plastic Man and Captain Marvel justice aside from the Monster Society of Evil mini by Jeff Smith but I haven't read enough Blackhawk. I only borrowed and read the one DC Archive from the library and it made no great impression on me. I've just never been a fan of war comics.
I did like the appearances in the animated shows but am not surprised people don't care for most of the modern interpretations. There a lot of very far-left types in modern comics and they can't tell an entertaining story that isn't a critique on people to the right of Chairman Mao to save their lives.
Plastic Man, and Uncle Sam And The Freedom Fighters are some of my favorites! DC Comics owns them now, but Quality had them first!
Thanks for doing this!
Not only is The Spirit my favorite Quality character, he's also may favorite comic character of all time. Eisner was a true master of graphic storytelling.
Hi tartanphantom! I first came across The Spirit when I was in 8th or 9th grade through the Kitchen Sink reprints. The very first comic shop in my area had it on the shelves. It was love at first site. Great book! Eisner is amazing!
@@FizzFop1 too bad the Frank Miller ruined him with his movie.
@@lindacherone4688 Hi Linda! Yeah, The Spirit movie was lacking a certain zest. It doesn't really have the feel of The Spirit. It's a little tedious to watch.
The Spirit was NOT a Quality Comics character. He was always owned by Will Eisner; the Eisner State (managed by Denis Kitchen), still manages licensing of The Spirit. DC Comics never owned the character -- DC just managed and helped Kitchen restore and curate the original Spirit comic strips. DC had reprint rights for The Spirit even after they stopped creating original, new Spirit comics (under the DC Comics imprint) the best of which were the issues that Darwyn Cooke did. They did a "Red Label" DC Comics imprint of new Spirit stories but sales were awful and that got canceled quickly.
In modern times, I think Darwyn Cooke is the only comic creator who really captured the feel of The Spirit. I wish they had adapted his Batman/Spirit crossover story into an animated film, it could have been very good and would have been a shot in the arm for the character after the disaster of the awful Frank Miller Spirit movie!
The Spirit's been published or reprinted by Quality Comics, Kitchen Sink Press (defunct; Denis Kitchen's publishing company), Dark Horse, DC Comics, and most recently, Dynamite.
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Quality Comics just did reprints of the Spirit comic strips. The only original Spirit art for the Quality Comics would probably be the covers featuring The Spirit but the rest of The Spirit stories in those Quality Police Comics issues were reprints.
Midnight, the Quality Comics Spirit clone/rip-off, was a Quality character. (DC owns Midnight but has done VERY LITTLE with the character. I think his last new appearance was in an All-Star Comics issue in the 1980s! I think not much has been done with Midnight at DC Comics out of respect for Will Eisner and acknowledgment of his ownership of The Spirit; Midnight is just too obvious a knock-off.) Midnight was created by Jack Cole because the Quality Comics editor/owner was afraid Will Eisner might get killed in a combat zone during World War II and that his company would lose original Spirit material. The funny thing is that Will Eisner later recruited Jack Cole to do artwork for The Spirit comic strip!
I don't think Eisner held Midnight against Jack Cole. Eisner understood the comic book game -- there were an awful lot of "homages" back then and even Eisner was contracted to do his own take on Superman called "Wonder Man." I don't think Wonder Man's single issue has been reprinted to this day because of the DC Comics lawsuit. They sued that Superman knock-off out of existence after one issue! They were supposed to reprint the Wonder Man comic book in a Fantagraphics book about Golden Age superheroes over 10 years ago but I think DC Comics blocked it after they saw the solicitation for that book. I used to own that book and I wanted to read the Wonder Man comic. I'm sure it's up online somewhere now...
I'd read about the Spirit and been mildly interested as a kid. Then at a low-grade comic convention, I saw one of the Warren magazine reprint jobs of the Spirit -- I think it was the second or third one with the Spirit facing off against some femme fatale character around a decrepit, chimney-sized building with some kid trapped in a barred cell built into it -- and fell in love with the stories within. Yes, I know, I know... Ebony is almost unforgivably stereotyped in his portrayal, but a shallow dismissal of a character that, at least in Will Eisner's hands, was a real person with a soul, interests, and relatability underneath.
There was nothing transgender in Madam Fatal. He cross-dressed, as part of his detective work. There is an enormous difference between the two things.
The Spirit is one of my favorite comic book heroes. Eisner’s artwork and stories are superb.
I was fond of The Human Bomb, and when I saw The Spirit listed as #3 on your countdown, I was puzzled. Then I saw Plastic Man as #2, and the Blackhawks as #1 confirmed my opinion of your judgment. You got it.
Hi AlexanderFilmWorks! Thank you. I tried to make the list based on how well the characters were received in the 1940s during their original run.
I always liked The Blackhawks and Freedom Fighters
I LOOOVEEE your videos man, this channel is so underrated. I have learn so much comicbook history thanks to you.
Notification Squad reporting in! You do such an amazing job with this series. Great stuff!
Thank You Rob113!
I remember some of these from their later DC appearances. Love hearing the history of these golden age companies. Hope your doing well.
THE Spirit is my favorite, Wil Eisner is a legendary artisan for a very good reason.
That Doll Man was/is a handsome-looking fellow... ;)
Even more interesting once he was joined by Doll Girl...
You're back!! RUclips ain't the same without you! Great video👍🏽
The Spirit all the wayyyyy
Ebony White may look bad...but last I checked, he WAS written well and treated as an actual character.
Ebony at first glance appears to be nothing more than a stereotype. As you read the stories, you realize that Eisner gave Ebony a lot more depth than many of the other characters in his stories.
Just goes to show that Will Eisner was THAT DAMN GOOD.
Sorry, man, he was a gross caricature.
Another fine episode. My wife & I always enjoy them and get excited when we are notified of a new one. Thank you so much for doing your homework, using your technological skills and paying homage to the heroes, heroines and villains of yesteryear...with class! Well done.
Alright your back I've been waiting patiently to see more of you're awesome content I love hearing about obscured superheroes and comic book companies that I've never heard of so your channel has been missed it's good to see you back again making videos hope you're feeling better now.
I was born in 1950, but I remember "Phantom Lady", especially her "Black Light" that caused several bad guys to crash their cars when they suddenly couldn't see. I also remember, but can't name, a comic about a fat kid who sucked lollipops. I might be confusing the multiple umbrellas belonging to The Penguin, but I believe his lollipops came with different abilities. Could his name have been "Herbie"? No clue who published these comic books, at that time, you bought your favorites, whoever made them, and pretty much ignored the rest unless a friend advised on that character. My all time favorite was Superman, as who didn't want to fly.
Fat kid and lollipops...that sounds so familiar...but I can't think of the name. If I think of it, I will get back to you Alan.
His name was Herbie Popnecker, also known as The Fat Fury. He first appeared about 1958 in Forbidden Worlds from the American Comics Group and his adventures ran for most of the 1960s. They were fun adventures, whimsical in the way the original Captain Marvel was. ☺
Glad to see nothing can keep the fizz down
Hi Sketch! I'm slow, but not out!
I'd have to say Phantom Lady. While her Public Domain Status is shall we say "Ambiguous" at best, she has the most interesting history.
I never knew the origin of Kid Eternity, but you didn't explain his power: he can call up any person from history to help him take care of a situation. It was always interesting to see who he would call up, and find out just how helpful they actually were in any particular situation.
When I first got into comics in the late 70s, I really liked the Freedom Fighters, where DC put several of the Quality comics characters into a super-group. I was a bit disappointed to find out that the FF were a 70s creation, and not a revival of a Golden Age super-team. Roy Thomas or someone should retroactively put the Freedom Fighters into the 1940s!
And while I've not always been a fan of the revived characters, there has certainly been some great moments with Blackhawk and Plastic man at different times.
Nice to see you uploading again.
The Spirit is my favorite, without question. Although Plastic Man is fun, too. Prototype for Reed Richards, n'est pas?:)
Hi Jason! Thanks for watching! This morning I sat around and read Spirit stories. Great Stuff!
It was 'timely' that Marvel already owned the Human Torch - Kirby and Lee both had a strong recycling ethos!
Marvel did this a lot, took some basic c-list character and made it big. Mr Fantastic is SO much more interesting than Plastic Man that we have to thank Kirby and Lee for their 'recycling' ways.
marvelous material. very rare quality video here on youtube.
I'm shocked DC comics didn't sue every other comic company saying that their heros are too similar to DC heros.
Torchy always holds a special place in my heart. I was introduced to Torchy (and her creator Bill Ward) in the early 90’s because of a series of reprints. Those books ended up being a huge inspiration on my own artistic style.
Black hawk Is my favorite.
Just thought you should know I gave a shout out in my latest video .
Those 40s Blackhawk stories are really good. Great artwork. There's no doubt why Blackhawk was so popular back in the 40s and 50s. I believe it was the only character driven book DC continued publishing uninterrupted after they purchased the Quality line.
Only thing changed as far as UNCLE SAM AND patriotic heroes is that CAPT. AMERICA took over the interest of comic fans as he kicked azz like BATS 👍
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The Phantom Lady made a return as part of the Knight family in Starman with Jack Knight. That was a great series.
They reprinted virtually all the Phantom Lady stories from the Golden Age of Comics in the PS Artbooks Phantom Lady Archives. I've got both archives in hardcover. They were available on the second-hand, used bookstores market for less than $20 a piece a few years back.
Those PS Artbooks hardcovers reprint a lot of old, public domain comics from the 1940s and 1950s. Most of it IS forgettable but occasionally they have some gems that show up.
I got the Phantom Lady books based on visual appeal. The stories are -- to be honest, I can't remember a SINGLE Phantom Lady storyline! LOL
Yeah, the stories were mediocre at best. In and out... almost like a mindwipe! I have better memories of Marvel Comics I read in the 1980s than these Phantom Lady stories that I read less than 4 years ago!
DC still owns the Phantom Lady character and trademark but failed to renew the copyrights on these stories in the 1960s and 1970s. By then, I bet hardly anybody remembered this character and most of these big companies have no idea of what all they own.
I'd say well over half the Golden Age comics ever published are public domain now - that includes virtually every Quality and Fawcett comic ever published!
Sad to say, even though they can't really stop reprints, DC owns these characters and you can bet they WOULD sue or be obnoxious if people don't get DC's permission before they do ANY kind of reprint -- especially with the Marvel Family characters, Plastic Man, Blackhawk. These are IP's they consider still have value. For 20 years, they've been talking about doing a Plastic Man movie.
Quicksilver doesn't really exist anymore. The character got rebranded as Max Mercury in the early 1990s and while they kept the costume he's an utterly different charactet today. Of course, the reason they no longer call him "Quicksilver" is because Marvel owns that name was well as lot of Golden Age character names that fell into obscurity and weren't renewed when they had to be (Daredevil, Captain Marvel, and a ton of names Marvel Comics trademarked for their own characters in the 1960s).
The Spirit really isn't a Quality character. Quality Comics just did reprints of the Will Eisner Spirit comic book specials and strips. The Spirit was always owned by Will Eisner and his Estate controls that now. DC had rights or still retains rights to do Spirit reprints but Dynamite does the new SPirit comics now. Those comics must not be selling well, though. I got a $40 reprint volume of a collection of Dynamite Spirit comics for $10 yesterday! But then again, a LOT of trade collections and hardcovers of comic books are on firesale right now if you've been following the situation with the collapse of the US comic book market and all these graphic novels that have been dumped. A lot of that trash has ended up at discount outlet stores like Ollie's and some used bookstores. The used bookstores tend to get the better-quality stuff...
@@AvengerII You are correct that most of the Golden Age comics are in the public domain. There are two websites, Comic Book Plus and the Digital Comics Museum have just about every Golden Age comic available to read and download. There are some Canadian and British GA comics available as well. DC and Timely books are not available, but Quality, Fawcett and Charleton from the 60s are.
@@tygrkhat4087 The Quality and Fawcett comics I'm aware of are exceptional. Plastic Man, Blackhawk, and of course the Marvel Family and Spy Smasher comics are excellent.
Plastic Man, Captain Marvel, and The Spirit are 3 of my favorite Golden Age characters. I daresay The Spirit run is possibly the best comic book from the Golden Age.
The Return of Fizz. Glad to see you back, Brother! 👊👍
Glad to be back Keith! I tried to take on too much and got bogged down. Hope to get more out soon!
@@FizzFop1 Thanks again!
Quality WAS quality...'nuff said
Great video dude. I never realized how many classic comic characters I love and enjoy where made by quality. I new for some of them like black hawk and plastic man but i didn't know lady luck or madam fatal where made by them. Facinating
Also I started work on my comics and am about to start more serious work on one Ina particular which I'm proud of
Hi holozlaer 235! Your making comics? Awesome! I'm working on my art skills. I'm trying to get something going. I just move slow on everything these days. lol
@@FizzFop1 same hear. With the comic I'm getting close to making is luckily not super art intensive do to it being a semi revival to an old webcomic character who was originally drawn in Ms paint so I don't feel Uber pressured by myself to get everything right because he's simple to draw my other comic my friend will be mainly drawing and then I have two other personal project comics that are farther down the road including one that has been directly inspired by your channel and videos also there will be public domain superheroes in all my comics and there will be a team which I've been putting together for awhile now but I finally think I got a good roster the only member I will mention hear is dear devil is the leader the rest of the members will be a surprise. Anyways glad to hear you're working on your art skills hope you get to a skill level your comfortable with.
kid eternity was always one of the most underutilised characters DC brought, you've got a guy who can summon heroes and assistants from any point in reality and you bearly have even appeared, given how earth 10 is effectively earth quality comics I'm surprised he never joined the freedom fighters or a teen titans equivalent. have you considered doing a history video on Harvey Comics? it would tie nicely into your atlas comics vids thanks to the great Ernie Colon.
This is probably no longer in continuity, but in the Bronze Age, Kid Eternity was linked with the Fawcett characters, to the point that he and Freddy (Captain Marvel Jr) Freeman were actually brothers.
Kid Eternity *did* join one version of the Teen Titans. His teammates were people like Kid Devil, Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes), Miss Martian, Static, Wonder Girl (Cassie Sandsmark), and Aquagirl II. Not exactly the most iconic version of the Teen Titans, but it still counts.
*Colonoscopy*
I'm just reading a 1979 marvel comic with two stories one (a swordwielding barbarian story) by Ernie *Colon* and one by Gene *Colan* - _Starlord_ the origin /adventures of Peter Quill.
Harvey would be interesting - I first saw _The Spirit_ in the excellent Harvey reprints.
@@jackwells8107 I remember being shocked when I first read that!
Rember Uncle Sam and the attack on Pearl Harbor before it Happened. But Blackhawk was my first love was Blackhawk.
Cringe? Why? SJW makes me cringe.
Even back then characters like this were cringe bruh. African Americans actually got Fawcett to shut down Steamboat, a similar character who assisted Captain Marvel.
You don't need to uncritically cheerlead 1940s racism.
@@BATCHARRO - Yeah. ..and shall we mention Chop-Chop in Blackhawk - stereotypical 'light entertainment' tropes have a lot to answer for...
Oh man its funny, yesterday I was asking myself when the last time u made a video. I love the history ununcover and i always search nd check out the comics u talk about. Its funny after me asking that, u upload a new one today lol
Blackhawk was my fav. I really enjoyed those as a kid.
Great video love the quality. Are you ever going to do a video on how ac comics reprints Golden age comics as well as using public domain characters ( miss victory and phantom lady ) in their femforce books ?
Hi awesomeatronik! I love those AC Comics. They come up in a few of my videos like my Phantom Lady video. I haven't thought about it, but it would be a great topic.
@@FizzFop1 cool i saw the phantom lady video and was surprised that you actually talked about the ac/dc legal situation thanks for all the cool videos about golden age heroes keep up the good work.
Lou Fine’s The Black Condor and The Ray were standouts in the early Quality line.
Black hawk.
Does Uncle Sam have any connection to the DC comics character?
Hi Chris Crisis! Thanks for watching...Yes, all the Quality heroes are owned by DC today.
Uncle Sam and all of the Freedom Fighters were Quality Comics characters originally.
8:53.....come on man, we need to know more about The Mouthpiece..!!!
Oh yeah!!!
Is the Steven Spiegle Blackhawk project still a thing? Hope so.
Blackhawk was a surprise. I never realized they were from Quality. Of your 10 I would say Plas and Phantom Lady are two if my favorite.
One I noticed that you did miss was Black Condor. The fact that he was taking over the identity of a secretly assassinated sitting US Senator (!!) as his alter ego was worth a few words.
Madam Fatal Is transvestite, in the technical sense, and still in love with his dead wife, and unrelated to transexuality.
Loved MOLDOFF'S work in Quality.
I use to love reading comics as a kid of the 70's. Marvel & DC , Battle , Warlord , Victor , 2000AD , Look in , Beano , Topper , Dandy , TV Comic , Roy of the Rovers , others I have forgotten over the years. Shame kids of today don't read comics anymore. Its all Computer games now days.
I agree with you on that one.
BLACKHAWK OUTSOLD MANY OF THE DC TITLES FOR MANY YEARS THEN THEY WERE BAD WRITTEN SCRIPTS DESTROYED THE TITLE.
DC Comics recently put Plastic Man on a team called The Terrifics. There are some similarities to Marvel"s Fantastic Four, but I've loved the book since the first issue! I suggest you check it out.
Nice to see you again!
Spirit and black hawk were my favoites
Plastic Man is my favorite.
this is awesome. are they all in public domain tho?
I read that New52 Phantom Stranger comic with Lady Luck in it!
I had no idea she was a Quality character! Your vids are great!😁
Doll man is amazing it's deserve a live action film
Welcome back Darrin. Great job as usual man. 👍👍
Thanks Gil!
Nice video! I (and many others) bought Blackhawks as a kid in the 1950's. After DC took over they gradually went downhill and I stopped buying them. They were a WW2 and Cold War thing and became passe in the 1960's. Still trying to complete my collection. Watching recent RUclips videos I see that the Nazis and Japanese actually did have prototypes of some of the "unbelievable" weapon machines seen in Blackhawk. I agree with your ratings, would give The Spirit and Plastic Man very high ratings too. He was originally supposed to be called Rubber Man and I forget why they changed the name.
Outstanding series of videos. Quality was a real star among the comics.
#1. PLASTIC MAN and #2. PHANTOM LADY! I loved both series, especially the art of JACK COLE and MATT BAKER!
Great video Fizz! Lots of support from Colombia! Keep up the good work! Hope you can do a video on Kaliman or Zorro anytime soon. :)
Hi Camilo! Funny you should mention Zorro...I've got a partially done video listing the other heroes of Johnston McCulley who is the guy who created Zorro. A couple of weeks ago, I even found myself drawing Zorro in some fencing poses. I tried to draw him on a horse-but my horses don't look right.
@@FizzFop1 hehehe horse are really complicated to draw, you should post your drawings through here so we can see them! :D
Black Hawks all the way!
HAWKAAAAAA!!!!!
I know alot of comics fans are saying the Spirit and Blackhawk are their favorites but Plastic Man is my favorite by far. Humor in both classic funny books and modern comics are soo underrated and the Plastic Man comics were a perfect mix of the two
i grew up thru the Plastic Man era and remember reading the comics my uncle had and watching the TV show.. yea, im old..lol really wish my uncle had held onto the books, he is where i got my love of comics from
That is awesome crazyivan512! I'm old too...use to watch the cartoon every Saturday morning with my little sister. Good times.
My Uncle was a graphic artist, and got me into comics.
In the 60s,comics from the 30s40s. were all over the place..
Kid Eternity, a boy superhero who was attacked and nearly died at sea at the hands of Nazis along with his grandfather, only to be saved thanks to the partial intervention of a white-bearded ethereal being and allowed to live, granted powers that are activated by stating his nom de guerre. Sounds oddly familar...
Yes, I am talking about Captain Marvel, Jr. In fact, E. Nelson Bridwell (at least I think it was he) did a then-modern story in the Seventies which revealed the Kid and Junior were brothers and, if not for Captain Marvel saving his life, it was Freddy Freeman and not Christopher ("Kid") Freeman who was meant to die. The nitpicker in me wants to point out Kid Eternity lived on Earth-Quality rather than Earth-Fawcett, but still, the coincidental similarities of the story practically beg to be tied together.
Still thinking about this.... perhaps Kid and Junior are alternate reality versions of one another, not unlike a midway point between the Earth-1 and Earth-2 versions of Batman or Superman (same secret identities and families) and the Flash or Green Lantern (differences in their powers and how they came about).
Thank you for mentioning Bill Ward and Torchy! I do wish there had been room for the Human Bomb, though.
Are these guys semi public domain like the Charlton Heroes?
They all got bought out by DC and show up occasionally... But I believe their older versions from Quality count as Public Domain
Hi Jack of All Claws! The Quality characters are in a strange state of public domain...the original quality stories get reprinted from other companies from time to time, but DC's ownership prevents anyone from creating new stories using these characters.
@@FizzFop1 Some people have talked about a separate Earth on the infinite multiverse dubbed "Quality Earth" as their stories on Earth-X and their retroactive existence on Earth-Two don't seem to fit well together. I guess you could say that if it's public domain, it "happened" on "Quality Earth".
There's something that I've never been able to figure out, has The Spirit ever been part of a DC continuity? Why does it seem as if he has a whole reality (or realities) for himself?
@Cool Guy So I could put out a Plastic Man comic with the character looking and acting like Plastic Man . All that I'd have to do is call him " The Gumband?"
@@OM19_MO79 In 2007, there was a one shot crossover comic of "Batman/The Spirit" which won an Eisner award.
The spirit of course!
i love your show thanks a lot
Need one more top.10 list video
This is fantastic 😊
Torchy! Wow! 😃
Seeing a new video of yours almost makes up for the fact you didn't mention Red Bee ;)
Hi Meta Ray! Maybe I should take a second look at the Red Bee!
@@FizzFop1 Have you done one on Red Bee already?
Love your videos bro🤙
Quality Comics as well as a host of other Golden Age comics are in the public domain. Anybody in the comments section here can make their own Kid Eternity movie if they wanted.
I'm not so sure about that Kenny...DC somehow managed to save the trademarks...but let the copyright pass into public domain...I think that's what happened...you can reprint the Quality Comics stories all you want, but if you try and make a new story, DC would be all over you in a heartbeat. That's why these characters don't see new relaunches from a dozen different publishers.
Great video. 2:15 there's never before been a more epically pronounced, "Number nine."
Lou Fine's art is so good! 3:26 Lou Fine and Gil Kane seem to share similar style of action and page layout, huh!
Thanks for creating this cool video, FizzFop1
this channel is amazing i have to ask tho do you ever plan on doing the fox feature syndicate heroes?
Hi Bookie Jar! Thanks for watching. I have so many Victor Fox stories I want to tell. I wrote a script, but it would have been an hour and half long. lol.
I would watch the heck out of a Freedom Fighters animated series
Me too.
Although I love the current Freedom Fighters line-up (Black Condor, Uncle Sam, Phantom Lady, Doll Woman, and the Human Bomb), I have been a fan of Plastic Man for many years.
I love these! Welcome back!
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The Spirt. The artwork of Eisner was as much character as the Spirit and the background players. His graphic lettering the Spirt and bending cityscapes into the manifestation of the story rather than just a backdrop. Warren Magazine published a series of full-size magazines back in the mid-seventies, and that was my introduction to the Spirt.
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I enjoyed the list, but one thing I'd really like on this type of video is some idea of how you made your decisions on rank. I would have probably have agreed with 6 or 7 of your top 10, but my order would have been almost completely different. Then again, my idea of which of their characters is/was popular is based more on what's been done with them since DC took over, so it would be interesting to know if you were only considering their Quality appearances or if something else went into the decisions.
Hi Jack! Thanks for watching! I based the list on the popularity of characters in the 1940s. For example, Blackhawk was HUGE in the 1940s. He was the only Quality character with a radio show or a serial. He was Quality top selling book from start to finish. Today, he's probably one of the least known. I sort of based the list on what info I could find. Phantom Lady is probably the character that doesn't deserve to be on the list, but i factored in her time with publishers Ajax and Fox. If I really made the list correctly Kid Eternity would have probably been in the number 4 spot.
@@FizzFop1 Thanks - I had kind of guessed that, since I would have put Plastic Man at the top of the last, based on his cartoon and JLA membership, but the list works much better knowing that.
Which Quality hero should be in their own video? There's already Phantom Lady,so who do you think deserves their own video???
Hmmmm...Plastic Man? Blackhawk? The Spirit? All three of those characters deserve one.
Uncle Sam.
great video!!! glad to see you back!!
DC needs to have an ongoing that utilizes all of these characters instead of having them all sit on a shelf. Include some of the never used characters like Bozo the Iron Man. Rock Marvel’s world with a character that had the name before Tony Stark did.
This line is a gold mine of characters begging to be re-imagined. DC is such a intellectual wasteland. In the next 10-15 years, these characters will be in public domain (that is as long as the current laws are in place), and I think it will be a great opportunity for fans and indies to show what can be done with them.
@@FizzFop1 DC is to busy putting out nothing but Batman books every month. I always loved the Freedom Fighters. They could do a maxi run and include more characters in it than just the core team.
Kid Eternity! yah. caught him in a seventies comic , maybe Tarzan Family.
Hercules was a popular superhero out of Greek/Roman mythology. Quality Comics did stories of him. MARVEL Comics in later years also used him for their superhero collection Stan Lee created. I am sure there were other comics that are defunct did their own Hercules stories too.
Hi Lurvy1963! I'm pretty sure Charlton had a Hercules title and maybe Gold Key?
I might be wrong, but the Quality Hercules was actually Joe Hercules, a super strong guy. He wasn't literally the Greek demigod. So a little different wrinkle to the typical depiction.
@@halfmadjesus Oops! Someone in the comics department screwed up.
@@FizzFop1 I know Gold Key did Samson as a blind superhero fighting monster villains. Any Charlton and GoldKey comic book heroes in your video collection? There must be dozens of defunct comic book companies and superheroes we don't know about until we visit your channel.
Wait, The Spirit is public domain? Or am I wrong?
Hi again Jack! DC owns the character, but the original Quality books (for reprint purposes) are in public domain...although I think DC would send lawyers after anyone who would try it.
Is The Spirit going to be a character you’ll cover on the show?
even more Heroes crapped on by being assimilated by the Borg...ugh...DC
Hi Kardboard Kenny! Thanks for watching! I know! That line of characters could hold their own any day. It's just a shame DC hasn't given them a real chance to shine.
@@FizzFop1 DC seems to only want to push the Bat-cash cow nowadays.