Tobacco Storage and Cellaring 101
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
- Tobacco storage and cellaring is can important part of the pipe smoking hobby. Here are some helpful tips on doing so.
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The best video on the subject out there!! Thanks!
Thanks man!
Really? He sounded like he was guessing for a lot of it.
@@brokenrecord3523 Still was the best video on the subject at the time. Most talk about Mason Jars, but no one compared all the sizes like this. It helped me to decide what to buy before designing and building my wooden custom storage unit for pioes ans jars!
Easy tip to figure out what size mason jar you need: multiply tobacco amount by 4, and that’s the size of jar you need. For example, 2 Oz tobacco will fit in an 8 Oz jar. Just like your 8 Oz tobacco fit in a 32 Oz jar. Works for any amount.
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I bought an unopened large tin of Half and Half tobacco from the 60s at an antique store. I opened it up and it was still moist! I put it in my pipe and smoked it, and it was delicious!
Being a pipe smoker for 40 years, one of the most important things I've learned is to try to smoke aged tobacco. Especially of course, a Virginia based blend. Even just a year or two can make a big difference. I can only suggest Virginia based blends to age for the most part. Burley seems to get that "antiquey" taste, I've had aros completely lose their flavor sitting in a jar, I haven't noticed much difference with latakia or Oriental blends except maybe just more time for flavors to marry. Nice video on an important topic.
100% agree. Good addition.
Something I just heard discussed on a podcast regarding tobacco mold, namely for prevention during storage. Make sure the jars are washed clean. Even better boil them before using. Also wash your hands before handling the tobacco. Any spores that get in there will otherwise have a lot of time to work on ruining your sweet leaf. Thanks for the video!
Accidentally cellared some tobaccos 10 years ago. They taste absolutely amazing. Mostly English blends but they have gained an almost sweetness. Unfortunately I was broke at the time and there’s only 2 jars. Going forward I’m going to be cellaring as much as I can afford 😂 best, Dave
Aging definitely makes a difference!
Excellent video. Agree about those small jelly jars; they're perfect for the 1oz bulk samples, and they can stack easily. I even get a few 2oz tins that can fit in them as well, though most 2oz blends take up two of those jars.
Theology, tobacco, middle earth! That’s my kind of good time!
Nice video! I am also using jars and I am happy with the results. Regarding ageing in vacuum sealed tins vs jars: I am currently runnind an experiment. Two tins of Night Cap, same batch: left one in tact, filled the other one into a jar. 5 years will be reached, soon, and I'll compare. Greetings from Switzerland!
Very interesting experiment! When and where might you share your results?
@@blakerwalk I just took the tin and the jar out of my cellar. Still thinking about the best set up for a comparison. I’ll start the test in a few days and will share my results here and maybe on tobacco reviews.
@@blakerwalk Dunhill Nighcap, bought 2 tins same day, same shop, March 2016. One tin was opened and content filled into jar with air tight screw cap. Tin and jar left in cellar until Nov. 2023. Results: Tin had maintained vacuum. Color of jared tobacco slightly darker. Moisture similar and perfect for smoking in both jar and tin. Tin with more intensive latakia scent. Test smoke: paralell in similar tasting old Dunhill root briars. There may be subtle differences in taste, but to small for my palette to describe. Great smoke for both jar and tin. My take: for this specific blend no relevant difference between ageing in tin or jar. I’ll keep tinned mixtures and their tin and bulk tobacco in jars.
A very educational video on cellaring tobaccos!
Great video, I live in Arizona (Dry) desert and you have to store your Tobacco in Mason Jars. The Tobacco will dry out in a week if you keep it in the open Tins. Just a heads up climate has a huge effect. Have a great weekend Brother.
Good additional info
Great video brother. Lots of great information. Thanks
I appreciate it!
Always like your videos . Very intelligent
I appreciate it!
Great video sir! Lots of good info. Thank you!
I’ve started keeping some of my larger bull and multiple bags in tupperdores that I’m not currently using for cigars or with complementary cigars.
Thanks for the video. A lot of great information. Have you ever considered storing in Mylar Bags? I do not have a lot of space for storage at the moment and was wondering how that would work.
I watched this one a while back when I was first getting into the hobby and before I was just storing them in ziplock bags, but noticed the room always smelled like tobacco, which my wife did not like and I noticed them drying out. So the mason jar is a great way to go for sure.
Good content brother
Does it matter if you open the jar to get some tobacco out of it several times a year? Or will that hasten the drying out? Should you "burp" jars that haven't been open in years? Thanks for the informative videos! I am new to pipes, coming from the cigar world.
I see that OBU shirt! You a fellow Oklahomie!? Dig the vids and God Bless you man!
Thanks for the support! Actually I don't love in Oklahoma but in Texas. The shirt was Swag from a convention
Rule of thumb is container size divided by four so expect a 16 oz mason jar to take 4 oz of loose cut tobacco. I think you can stuff more in but I try to use 8 oz wide mouths.
Overall I don’t agree with the notion of a comparison to cellaring wine. There are so many excellent blends I’d prefer to keep no more than 8 oz and then re-order.
Take his advice about laws changing and stock up, I was blending all my own vape liquids for a decade and in the last 2 years they've made it illegal to ship pure nicotine extract in the mail so I can no longer blend my own and be able to know what's in it.
Great video, thank you!
Just wondering, what is the map on the wall behind you in this video?
Looks like Middle Earth (Tolkien)
Hey, great video, I just found it and was wondering what your thoughts on storing under humidity are? I.E. a desktop humidor. I've had my pipe tobacco stored in the tins at 69% humidity for about 3 years. I haven't noticed anything off, but I wanted your opinion. Side note they are aromatics from Cult. Thank you.
Would the mason jars (like one of the taller 32oz ones) work for cigars, most people talk about how cigars need to be humidified at a consistent level, 68% to 73%. I’m ask since they are both tobacco, I’m starting to get tired of worrying about boveda packs/humidor. It would be nice to store them without constantly worrying about all the gizmos, gadgets, and gauges
Yes I've seen it done. I've also seen guys use large Tupperware containers with boveda packs. Works well too
Love that middle-earth map
Cool vid man! How often should I change the filter in my pipe? Thanks man!
Damn I’m a poop smoker. Wrong video.
I’m curious if, like beer, keeping light out is beneficial for the long term. I’m sure most people keep the jars in a dark place, but I wonder if having dark glass would help as well.
I believe it would. Though as you say, most already keep their jars in dark places.
I have yet to try anything other than aromatics, but soon hopefully. Your videos are inspiring me to just go buy something random, either a Virginia or English, maybe buy two of same, smoke one and cellar one.
7:38 tin to jar
Could you please elaborate on cellaring different kinds of tobacco, like Virginia, Burley, cavendish and so on.
When it comes to cellaring methods, nothing changes no matter the blend. They are jarred and stored the same. The only difference I may give attention to is the blend cut. I typically put flakes, coins, and cakes in smaller jars and ribbons, shags, ready rubbs in the more normal, standard jars.
@@TheSpurgeonPiper I meant more like can you benefit from cellaring all kinds of tobacco.
Oh I see. Overall, I believe so. As someone else mentioned in the comments, aromatics dont seem to improve with cellaring and in fact, may be hindered by it. But that's speaking of more long-term storage
Burley and Latakia based blends will "mellow" out which may or may not be a benefit for the smoker. With that said, I still cellar them.
Virginia based blends are the best to cellar due to their sugar content.
Hey! Great video! I have a question, if I get a tin and then transfer it to a jar, can I open the jar whenever I want to smoke some of the jar content?
Yes you can certainly open it whenever you want. However, if your desire is long term storage, then it's best to leave it closed.
@@TheSpurgeonPiper thanks sir!
@@TheSpurgeonPiper Hi, I had the same question . I was about to buy some Mason jars but the website mentioned that the seal only lasts once I.e. you need to add a new seal/lid every time you open the jar. Just wondering what the solution is if you are opening the jar regularly? Adding a new seal each time would end up a bit expensive? Thanks
@@daniel08october1969 they are referring to sealing the jars with jaring food, like when you make homemade jam or salsa. In the process, you heat the jars, place the lid on, and the seal sticks to the jar.
For a pipe smokers purpose, they can be used continuously, as we are only keeping out air.
Thanks for clearing that up for me and taking the time to respond. I’ve bought some Mason jars now.
What do you think about putting the filled jars back in the original boxes for storage? Makes stacking much easier IMO
Yup, sounds like a good idea
Could you use the Sistema klip it clamp down Tupperware with boveda packs for multiple tins? (Opened tins)
Maybe? Personally, I wouldnt trust them for long term storage.
Q. the tobacco stays fine in these jars, humidity pads are not necessary ?? Thanks
Correct. If you plan on opening the jars time to time over a long period of time, then you may want to throw in humidity pads.
I bought a tin of an aromatic at my local B&M. Thing had like 2 years of age. Tin note is amazing but the taste is incredibly weak, even for an aro. I wonder if the age did this like you suggested.
It's possible. The tobacco and flavoring quality play a role as well.
Do you suggest transferring SPC blends straight to jars due to their packaging?
Actually most would say that the the tin processing that SPC blends come in (American style) is better for cellaring than the European. So keep them in the tin if you dont plan on opening them for awhile.
does jar color play a role if you can not store them out of sunlight?
I would imagine so, but for long term storage, it's quite critical you store the jars out of sunlight. Even if that means covering them up with something. Put them in a box or some type of extra container.
If you are concerned about short term storage (going camping, being outside and smoking, etc.), it's not a huge concern.
Do you clean out the jars between different blends?
Sometimes. If it was holding an English or Aromatic blend and I'm going to put a different blend type in, then likely.
let them bulge. you really shouldn't do anything for a bulging tin.
A smoking Baptist ? Lol!
A smoking Dr? Lol
All good theologians do! Haha... Honestly, the contemplative nature of pipe smoking lends itself to deep Bible study.
Agreed👍
One of my elders and I started meeting during the lockdowns to smoke pipes and discuss theology. He's been a casual piper for about 40 years and I'm fairly new to the hobby (about 2 years). It turned into something of a book club. Just finished Sam Renihan's The Mystery of Christ.
It's a great time of additional fellowship every couple weeks. We switch it up with cigars on occasion, and always enjoy an adult beverage (a glass of port pairs very well with tobacco, in my estimation).
But we're 1689 LBC guys, so that makes us a little different anyway. So was Spurgeon and he enjoyed the "Indian herb" as well.