@@nighthawk0077 98amp is very low for a 6s 80mm fan. 98amp peak for a 100A is fine. Its draw midrange and throughout is very low compared to other 6s 80mm motors too (xfly 2200, fms 2100). That's why they give slightly more flight time and that's why I was able to up the timing and still be within range. Peak with the 2100 is 115A. Peak with the 2200 is 120A. That's on stock timing too. Thats why the sirius gets very hot. Id definitely not run these motors on 7s.
What your referring to is the difference between static thrust and in flight thrust, in flight you have a rush of air based on your speed, the air coming into your fan increases your thrust. Some fan profiles are better for this than others
That’s really impressive !! My 80mm jetfan 1865kv on 8s is meant to be 3.7kg of thrust. I’m tempted to buy the fms unit and try it. I would be lighter on 7s and in theory fastest and have a better vertical! 😎
@@ghoustanable I might give it a go. Will let you know 😎 Iv already got a 150 amp ESC and some 4/3s lipos. I will see if I can buy the edf unit in the UK.
@@ghoustanable I have got a question for you tho mate. I’m building a Sebart avanti. So I’m looking at 90mm edf units, Jetfan Wemotec and Schübeler. They all cost WAY more than the 90mm FMS 1500 KV unit, Would you try the FMS unit on 10s in that model? I can’t see why it’s not worth trying. All the above units put out about 5.5KG of thrust on 10s. Iv seen your testing and that it puts out over 6kg on 10s. Worth a go fitting it, for long term use? What would you put in a Sebart Avanti. Much appreciate the help. And I enjoy the videos. Keep them coming. 👍💪👍
@@tomling9310 I wouldn't hesitate one bit the setup is rock solid. I've had over 100 flights on four different airframes with no problems. 9s would also work as well.
@@ghoustanable after watching your videos, i’v got a 1500kv unit installed on my eflite Viperjet. Only flown it with 8s but have 9S to try. I will give it a go too in the Sebart Avanti and let you know. 👍💪👍
Being that motor more heavy than the 3280 2100 kv from FMS would have probably more power and handle better that extra power than the other? Interesting, that the Freewing one clocked just more thrust on the bench... maybe the number of blades make a difference... or motor power reserves for working under heavy load
That's impressive. Shame it drops to about 2.7ish kg when installed in the futura. It's a big drop. Motor might pick up a little after running in though
i have the fms futura v3 which comes with the 3665 motor but plastic EDF its on 6s stock, can it take 7s out the box ( i have upgraded the ESC to a HW 130A)
@Garfield Houstan thanks mate. Its just basically the the same as the Predator/FMS 120A 3s-8s esc but with Hobbywing logo on it. Would u also recommend yo go for the metal housing and not the plastic? Found the metal ones online at a reasonable price. Now you're making me consider 7s for my Mig29!!
@markmcc21 that would be a sweet setup in the MiG-29. I would go metal over plastic. Yes, you do have additional weight from the metal. However, you also have additional cooling because the metal shroud acts like a great big heatsink. Additionally, a lot of the freewing 80 mm jets need a bit more tail weight anyway, so this is a great solution and gives you more options to move your batteries forward.
Hands down, the WeMo Tech 8s setup is the best I've come across. Sound Performance can't go wrong. shop.wemotec.com/Midi-Fan80-evo-ducted-fan-unit-HET-700-60-1865-8s-112A-375-N-completely-mounted-balanced-and-harmonically-tuned
Sweet! I have two of these and on 6s they are at about 98amps!! The power is great too! Love them!
Yes agreed very low draw. I just up the timing from med to high and its Amp draw is still low enough for stock 100A with the gain of about 80g thrust
@@M4rkmcc21 I wouldn't call 98amps on 6S very low. I would definitely advise caution running full throttle too long on 7S.
@@nighthawk0077 98amp is very low for a 6s 80mm fan. 98amp peak for a 100A is fine. Its draw midrange and throughout is very low compared to other 6s 80mm motors too (xfly 2200, fms 2100). That's why they give slightly more flight time and that's why I was able to up the timing and still be within range. Peak with the 2100 is 115A. Peak with the 2200 is 120A. That's on stock timing too. Thats why the sirius gets very hot. Id definitely not run these motors on 7s.
What your referring to is the difference between static thrust and in flight thrust, in flight you have a rush of air based on your speed, the air coming into your fan increases your thrust. Some fan profiles are better for this than others
Dynamic thrust is less than static according to engineers.
At least this guy is getting ten times the thrust of others! Love it!😅😅
Awesome man, thanks on the info
Good work man, thanks for sharing. Disregard my previous question lol
That’s really impressive !! My 80mm jetfan 1865kv on 8s is meant to be 3.7kg of thrust.
I’m tempted to buy the fms unit and try it. I would be lighter on 7s and in theory fastest and have a better vertical! 😎
I have that exact same setup in my Avanti for and I can tell you any hesitation ation the FMS set up is better in the exact same plane.
@@ghoustanable I might give it a go. Will let you know 😎 Iv already got a 150 amp ESC and some 4/3s lipos. I will see if I can buy the edf unit in the UK.
@@ghoustanable I have got a question for you tho mate. I’m building a Sebart avanti. So I’m looking at 90mm edf units, Jetfan Wemotec and Schübeler. They all cost WAY more than the 90mm FMS 1500 KV unit, Would you try the FMS unit on 10s in that model? I can’t see why it’s not worth trying. All the above units put out about 5.5KG of thrust on 10s. Iv seen your testing and that it puts out over 6kg on 10s.
Worth a go fitting it, for long term use?
What would you put in a Sebart Avanti. Much appreciate the help. And I enjoy the videos. Keep them coming. 👍💪👍
@@tomling9310 I wouldn't hesitate one bit the setup is rock solid. I've had over 100 flights on four different airframes with no problems. 9s would also work as well.
@@ghoustanable after watching your videos, i’v got a 1500kv unit installed on my eflite Viperjet. Only flown it with 8s but have 9S to try. I will give it a go too in the Sebart Avanti and let you know. 👍💪👍
Being that motor more heavy than the 3280 2100 kv from FMS would have probably more power and handle better that extra power than the other? Interesting, that the Freewing one clocked just more thrust on the bench... maybe the number of blades make a difference... or motor power reserves for working under heavy load
Fms also puts more time on designing their fans and fw does not. Hence the performance in the plane being better with fms… my experience anyway
That's impressive. Shame it drops to about 2.7ish kg when installed in the futura. It's a big drop. Motor might pick up a little after running in though
Sounds like the thrust tube is too restrictive for that fan if it drops that far down apples to apples
@@edfhobbies556 futura has no cheater holes. Maybe some might help.
i have the fms futura v3 which comes with the 3665 motor but plastic EDF its on 6s stock, can it take 7s out the box ( i have upgraded the ESC to a HW 130A)
@@ThomasColeman yes you can
At least he told us the specs/number😅
Can you bench test 8S setup?. I'm keen to run my FW Jas39 on 8s like you promoted on your other video
8s on this motor is too high. I wouldn't do it, but you're welcome to try it.
So what set up do you have in your gripen? Have you tried to lower down the esc timing to run it cooler?
@Henry Airconcepts I actually sold the Jet.
How much does the fb weigh? AliEx says 350g but that's what the fan weighs in plastic form and not the metal one. Cheers
All the specifications are here www.rc-castle.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=256_568&product_id=9147
@@ghoustanable do you think the Hobbywing 120A esc will be sufficient? 120A constant and 150A peak. Cheers
@markmcc21 couldn't say I've never run that ESC. That's said, I would go with Castle creation 130 or 120 guarantee it will handle it.
@Garfield Houstan thanks mate. Its just basically the the same as the Predator/FMS 120A 3s-8s esc but with Hobbywing logo on it. Would u also recommend yo go for the metal housing and not the plastic? Found the metal ones online at a reasonable price. Now you're making me consider 7s for my Mig29!!
@markmcc21 that would be a sweet setup in the MiG-29. I would go metal over plastic. Yes, you do have additional weight from the metal. However, you also have additional cooling because the metal shroud acts like a great big heatsink. Additionally, a lot of the freewing 80 mm jets need a bit more tail weight anyway, so this is a great solution and gives you more options to move your batteries forward.
What timing are you running?
Low
What’s a good 80mm 8s fan
Hands down, the WeMo Tech 8s setup is the best I've come across. Sound Performance can't go wrong. shop.wemotec.com/Midi-Fan80-evo-ducted-fan-unit-HET-700-60-1865-8s-112A-375-N-completely-mounted-balanced-and-harmonically-tuned
@@ghoustanable ok with that motor would you use a 120 , 130 , or 160 cc esc or what would e your recommendation for esc
@mr.maneuver287 Castle Creations 120 HV or 130 is fine.
Here is a video of my MiG 29 with this setup for the power! ruclips.net/video/ye2951U-ECA/видео.html Wow this setup is a winner!
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