Zenless Zone Zero Is Actually Fun

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024

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  • @PixelatedTheLostie
    @PixelatedTheLostie 2 месяца назад +10

    You're so brave for that 75% comment lmaooo definitely one of my main gripes, but the game just came out and I have faith that the roster will get better over time

    • @alien_liwil
      @alien_liwil Месяц назад +2

      Funny you say that, they drip marketed another child

  • @tr11na32
    @tr11na32 2 месяца назад +17

    YOU ARE SO RIGHT ABOUT 75% OF CHARACTERS BEING ILLEGAL it’s literally probably the only thing in the game that rubs me the wrong way. i would’ve been luciana’s BIGGEST FAN if she just didn’t look like a twelve year old bro 😭 or at least if they gave her pants or something. bc details and aesthetic of her outfit are SO cool but then i see her thighs and i just want to delete the game 😭💀

  • @yubaa
    @yubaa 2 месяца назад +11

    TV system is literally just a tile board puzzle system with a bit of Sokoban. I like it.
    It reminds me slightly of an old game I used to play, called Supaplex (do look up YT videos on it, it's really fun). Except without the gravity mechanic.

  • @larcade1329
    @larcade1329 2 месяца назад +4

    Maybe it's because it's the start of the game, but at the moment I really like the tv system. To me it feels better than having to fight in over 17 floors in Honkai Impact's Elysian realm or fight every single mob in HSR's sim universe pre-archeron.

  • @mysteryfirecat673
    @mysteryfirecat673 2 месяца назад +2

    Hoyo and young looking characters that are old and old looking characters that are young. They sure love those character tropes.
    I know for a fact that Piper was designed like that just for that trope, in one of the promotional arts she's drinking beer, so I know she's a midget adult, but still, they could've make her look a bit older while still being a midget, like Koleda, but no, she got stuck with a child design

  • @haikal5e
    @haikal5e 2 месяца назад +12

    2:37 bro plays to much of *Wuthering Waves* huh

    • @wyattskyy
      @wyattskyy  2 месяца назад +5

      Lmao oops

    • @mazethemercenary
      @mazethemercenary 2 месяца назад

      Was gonna comment but was sure someone beat me to it 😂

  • @ninetyninenights6226
    @ninetyninenights6226 2 месяца назад +21

    I must be doing something wrong since I don't need the characters to be f-able.

    • @Handlerhandlerhand
      @Handlerhandlerhand 2 месяца назад

      Yeah. Plus, HSR and GI suffer from the exact same thing except they just throw around the "noooo, the loli is 4x10e9 years old actually". At least ZZZ is honest in its portrayal.
      Anyway, content creators are not the pinnacle of intellectuality or anything, nor are they often good at making judgements or building criticism. Their role is merely propagandistic, they serve no actual purpose when it comes to information - your own judgement is more reliable than someone like guoba, moon, tectone etc. So long you are provided the same source. They just read stuff on reddit and pretend to be smart.
      CCs are necessary for the capitalist internet, they generate frequent exposure to a product and that exposure generates affinity which generates desire, thus feeding into FOMO. It's way cheaper to rely on chronically online losers to do for some bananas what would've been costly for a marketing agency. They will even do so without being asked or contacted, it's "organic". The gaming landscape relies on them and i can guarantee that without CCs, day 1 sales wouldn't be as high as they are today, nor would Gacha generate as much revenue due to the effects of FOMO losing one of its many defining factors: The belonging to a community.

    • @tonyf.8166
      @tonyf.8166 2 месяца назад +9

      it's not that they're "not f-able." it's that they're children and hoyo is designing them with revealing, skimpy clothes. And the intention becomes very clear when you realize that all of the underage characters are female.

    • @ninetyninenights6226
      @ninetyninenights6226 2 месяца назад +2

      @@tonyf.8166 If so, why do people keep using the word "legal"? "Legal" for what? It's only one thing.

    • @tonyf.8166
      @tonyf.8166 2 месяца назад +6

      @@ninetyninenights6226 Because if you're going to sexualize a character and give them booty shorts and garters and leather, they should at least look like a "legal" adult.

    • @ValentinoNicko
      @ValentinoNicko Месяц назад

      @@tonyf.8166 It's always the western that always discussing about f-able thingy, is this the first thing that came on everytime they saw a content?
      Also looks like a "legal" adult is very subjective and of course looks different from countries to countries.

  • @leedevee
    @leedevee 2 месяца назад +5

    My man decided to kill his channel today? 😂 Can’t agree more with you about the pediatrics bait that characters like Piper and the little cat abomination are, it’s so gross. But in the community you get skinned alive for voicing that opinion. Mostly agree with you, although I…kind of like the TV system? Yes, it sometimes drags on for no reason, but I really like the retro, nineties MTV meets Matrix aesthetics and the puzzles are sometimes fun(*ish). I also see the necessity of some kind of dungeon type mechanic, because of the lack of open world exploration. All in all, I’ve been enjoying this game so so so much. Lvl 32 and can’t wait to see what they are cooking for future updates. I hope some more ADULT characters and please some (S-Rank) male agents too…

    • @alien_liwil
      @alien_liwil Месяц назад

      They drip marketed another child lmaooo

  • @young__blacksmith
    @young__blacksmith 2 месяца назад +1

    I actually really like the tv system. To me its a fun little break from the combat. I’m also really impressed how much intuitive storytelling they managed to tie in with it

    • @TraceguyRune
      @TraceguyRune Месяц назад

      Anyone who says they like the TV system is lying to themselves

    • @young__blacksmith
      @young__blacksmith Месяц назад

      @@TraceguyRune I guess I’m a liar then

  • @spawnfire443443
    @spawnfire443443 2 месяца назад +9

    I dont hate the tv system. Its kinda cool and unique, but I think it shouldn't be as heavily relied on as a core gameplay mechanic.

  • @iprowafflez506
    @iprowafflez506 2 месяца назад +9

    Made it to interknot 30 today and tbh I really don’t understand the hate that it’s apparently getting. Like at all actually. And also hot take I suppose but the tv system is actually a really good puzzle mode and I feel like they’ve been pretty creative with the applications of it up to this point in the story and commissions I’ve done (this part is an edit but to add to my opinion about the TV mode, while I personally don’t find it unfun most of the time the issues I do have with it are similar to some things wyattsky listed in the video which are some of the text box interactions for random side events and that one 777 spinner do indeed take WAY too long to complete for what they are and that is definitely something that needs changing. Other than that I think the TV’s work very well in the main story they’ve been super engaging with all the new mechanics each chapter throws at you. however when it comes to exploration commissions where the only thing is the TV mode they can be a bit tedious depending on the kind of puzzle presented, some have been really uninteresting but also I genuinely love some of the exploration comms I’ve done they really did a good job to make it work as an engaging puzzle system it’s just that some of the puzzles aren’t nearly as creative as others which is when I think the TV mode can certainly fall flat)

  • @jaceee4154
    @jaceee4154 2 месяца назад +2

    atm id be lying if i said i didnt have a negative leaning feeling but im also hopeful. the next dev livestream will say a lot if they choose to acknowledge what ppl are criticizing and if theyre working on addressing those issues.

  • @juanbarron5403
    @juanbarron5403 2 месяца назад +1

    fortunately in terms of the kid characters, almost all of the new characters they've shown that would supposedly release slowly over time seem to be atleast young adults

  • @dantez3600
    @dantez3600 2 месяца назад +1

    Can you imagine if all of HSR story was told through simulated universe? Well that's TV mode.
    Maybe for a game mode it was cool, but for the story? I absolutely hate it.

  • @bentcbkietlam7492
    @bentcbkietlam7492 2 месяца назад +2

    I love everything the game bring tbh. From the style to combat system, i knew someone may think it was too simple but it is not, some characters require certain combo to activate what they are good at and the rotation is a skill to learn. Parry system was hard on phone, this game is perfect for multiple platform and worked really well.

    • @wyattskyy
      @wyattskyy  2 месяца назад +1

      My phone gets twice as hot as it did for wuwa. I wonder if it’s the same for everyone else

    • @bentcbkietlam7492
      @bentcbkietlam7492 2 месяца назад

      @@wyattskyy it is the same for me with the battery drained faster than my saving for gacha. But there is battery saving setting in the game, i may use this mode later and accept the graphics only okay.

    • @Persimmonism
      @Persimmonism 2 месяца назад

      I really don't know what "rotation" and "combo" that require skill you are talking about. I played soldier 11 with lucy and ben and ellen with soukaku, lycaon. If you exclude timed attacks of soldier 11(which is also pretty easy even vs overleveled enemies that require you to dodge stuff), the rest is literally mash every single button into the direction of the enemy. Yes, there's certain sequence of chain attacks that you wanna do, but that's just nothing.
      And don't get me wrong, I'm happy that you and other people enjoy the combat, I just completely disagree that it's not simple.

    • @bentcbkietlam7492
      @bentcbkietlam7492 2 месяца назад

      @@Persimmonism soldier 11, lucy and ben are simple team to play with enough basic knowledge you got from this game, the skill combo and rotation is different when coming to other teams such as ellen von and the oni girl, the chain attack was not hard to learn but it is easy to mess up the rotation since all buff has specific time and there are snapshot in this game, even nicole from the beginner has combo reactions when playing right you can constantly switch out the characters after using the skill and manage to build up 3000 points fast. All the buff and debuffs are quite hard to see as fast but the game managed to put a time countdown in some content, which makes rotation will be a thing to count for in the future.

    • @Persimmonism
      @Persimmonism 2 месяца назад

      ​@@bentcbkietlam7492 I don't have even the slightest idea how it's "easy to mess up" the ellen rotation and also what buffs are hard to see/track. But as I said earlier: if it's fun and challenging for you, then I'm happy that people enjoy it.

  • @EnjoyGengar
    @EnjoyGengar 2 месяца назад +1

    It was so fun that i went to season 6 torchlight infiinent and never looked back.

  • @luiss428
    @luiss428 2 месяца назад +1

    i think the tv system is pretty neat, but i get your frustration! i think they fit better as small puzzles scattered throughout the hollows but unfortunately idt they will change this as its pretty integral to hollow exploration. they cooked with this navigation system but i admit its boring

  • @RalchRI
    @RalchRI 2 месяца назад +10

    I honestly don't understand the HATE the TV system has. At the end of the day, it's just an abstraction of what the main character is doing. It's the same sort of classic JRPG maze, where you have some light puzzles and the illusion of exploration so there is something more than just fighting.
    There are some parts that could definitely be improved, like the fact that you can't move while other characters are talking, or how dialogues are unskippable. But I'd rather have something like this, where there is some sort of player input, than having the whole train segment in Ch.1 being told in visual novel style. People should just accept that the inicial scope of this project was smaller to something like Honkai: Star Rail. It's the same reason why there are many comic style cutscenes in the game, which are also quite charming.
    If the game has great success, this may change, but I still think it's a solid compromise so far. And I'd gladly take more TVs if that means we get story chapters and new areas more often than in their bigger games, all things considered.

    • @requinox
      @requinox 2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, it's basically like those old tile-based dungeon roaming games (or something more modern like Etrian Odyssey). I'm not up to IK30 yet, but I already saw how the devs have tried to inject a variety of mechanics into it (bombs, moving stuff, breakables)

    • @anrypettit3112
      @anrypettit3112 2 месяца назад +1

      no.
      stop the cope

  • @JasonJtran
    @JasonJtran 2 месяца назад +1

    Yeah around 27 the game opened up for me. Combat is fun now

  • @Julia_Lopez
    @Julia_Lopez 2 месяца назад

    i was debating wether to play or not because i rlly liked the overall aesthetics but i was not aware the characters looked like that who is this game for 💀

  • @jonathanhh3728
    @jonathanhh3728 Месяц назад

    The only place where the TVs make sense is Hollow Zero, I like the rogue-like aspect of it.
    Anywhere else, yeah I hate the TVs.

  • @gianlucabrambilla9665
    @gianlucabrambilla9665 2 месяца назад

    2:38 "now let's get into the overqorls of Wuthering Waves"

  • @user-nq1tp2qi8s
    @user-nq1tp2qi8s 2 месяца назад +1

    Love ur content! Keep up the good work :)

  • @evasofiaboyer3183
    @evasofiaboyer3183 2 месяца назад

    i like the game the only problem I have with TVs is there’s no variety. It’s always the same mechanic and it gets so redundant like the third time I had to do a TV I was already annoyed and it was the first day
    so they could keep the TVs, but they should implement more puzzles or more ways to do the things that the TVs allow you to do

  • @california_wang8078
    @california_wang8078 2 месяца назад

    Im one of those tv enjoyers in the game so i just wanna ask whats the replacement of tv for story telling? More comics and animation slides are great but they took out the fun cuz you're just watching stuff at that point. If you give me more in-combat dialogue, then im gonna get distracted by the combat while they're stretching out more fights for fitting the scripts, which more energy consuming than it already is. So i dont get this we want this thing gone argument, i see the pros and cons of it and i dont see a good alternative towards the current system.

  • @BlackRuby67
    @BlackRuby67 2 месяца назад +16

    I LOVE this game and no amount of people bitching and moaning in my ear about how “bad” it is is gonna get me to stop playing! Personal opinion, but I like it more than WuWa.

    • @Zilla010
      @Zilla010 2 месяца назад

      🫂same buddy let those people bitch

    • @dudeguyforever3742
      @dudeguyforever3742 2 месяца назад +2

      True. I found myself liking it more over wuwa and I always thought of zzz as dead on arrival.

    • @aciesara5444
      @aciesara5444 2 месяца назад +4

      I don't play ZZZ, but the amount of "hate" that this game gets actually makes me want to try it. In my experience, this kind of game will have a better community since incompatible players will be weeded out and the devs can focus on that specific audience that actually loves it.
      The reason I never tried it before is that I didn't think the gameplay was good. But Skyy gave it an 8/10 gameplay-wise, so (probably) good enough for me.

    • @BlackRuby67
      @BlackRuby67 2 месяца назад +1

      @@aciesara5444 Give it a try. If you don’t like it hey at least you gave it a shot. Every game is not made for everyone. :)

    • @anrypettit3112
      @anrypettit3112 2 месяца назад

      ok

  • @strykeralpha9650
    @strykeralpha9650 2 месяца назад +5

    ZZZ's biggest downfall is the lack of twinks in the game

  • @Planeta1951
    @Planeta1951 2 месяца назад

    TV minigame would be ok if not that yapping, animations and interruptions in the middle. It should be fully interactive thing that doesn't get interrupted all the time. No talking "fairy" nodes, no yapping when your controls are blocked and no blocking animations on picking up stuff - then we have some simple minigame in between fights. Imo idea is ok, but the execution is garbage.

  • @LorenzoFisher-i5p
    @LorenzoFisher-i5p 2 месяца назад +2

    I made it to lvl 32 and I’m loving the game. No issues in my book

  • @kingorengo4226
    @kingorengo4226 2 месяца назад +1

    Hey, I liked the tv system.. If only I could understand what each tv do.

  • @averangesoulsgamesenjoyer
    @averangesoulsgamesenjoyer 2 месяца назад

    It's very fun, i just hit lv 30. Been enjoing my week off (grinding 10h a day) ;) Optymalization on mobile is pretty bad rn. I have last year flagship phone and it runs 40-50 fps on medium 60fps which is just bad ngl. Also most important thing there is full support for controllers on android, first time did mihoyo not sell them selfs to apple and skip android. Even wired controllers like Backbone works.

  • @hihiya9806
    @hihiya9806 2 месяца назад +2

    thank god someone said it. i feel like too many cc are glossing over the very clear sexualization of minors in this game. its very weird and people that say oh they’re animated it doesn’t matter 😐 weird af

    • @Ronttt
      @Ronttt 2 месяца назад

      Honestly when they revealed Piper and Lucy my jaw dropped to the floor, and the worst part that they're are cool, and I want to like them! But they'd be better if they were older than 12 or at least wear more clothes. Otherwise I don't have any problems with characters like Corin (personal favorite), Ellen and even Koleda

  • @EightySixthFunamuseaFan
    @EightySixthFunamuseaFan 2 месяца назад

    only problem i got is with the great depression rate of resources... but it's fine because of the Lycorin duo 😀

  • @dabstablook7774
    @dabstablook7774 2 месяца назад

    damn this man is not scared of voicing his opinions

  • @yokologuy9766
    @yokologuy9766 2 месяца назад

    Only mission where I liked the tvs was the golden bun mission where you had to collect money otherwise it’s kinda lame I don’t hate it but I’d prefer actually walking like in the rally coms.

  • @Handlerhandlerhand
    @Handlerhandlerhand 2 месяца назад +1

    Infantile tastebuds of someone who doesn't like dungeon crawlers. I like the tv system. Way faster than the "walk to point a and point b".
    Also, genshin spiral abyss card system sucks, sometimes gamers seem to not like making decisions.
    You treat TV the same way you would treat SU GNG and SD boards, except they are faster. Look ahead, plan your route and go.
    I see advantages to it when compared to the slow pace of puzzles, it's very snappy.
    Also, you just look like someone who doesn't like to read much. I bet you didn't read HSR SU occurence texts nor the datalogs. Gamers brains are rotten, you all are safe if a zombie apocalypse ever happens. "I don't understand this therefore it's bad".
    I don't want ZZZ to be another slog like Genshin. I like solving genshin's puzzle though they often lack difficulty, but the animations and how slow it all feels. Eh.
    Anyway. If you read the texts while in the TV mode, you could've at least criticized them, but you literally just claimed to not have done it. So rely on someone better than you to do it for you:
    The texts are poor, at least in this part of the story. They are just instructions basically, but there could be some character reactions and comments the way we get in games like FF15 and FF7R2. The information within the bubble text is minimal so far, but reading them doesn't take much and if it annoys you so much then you need to get that checked.

  • @the_man861
    @the_man861 2 месяца назад +1

    Im loving zzz the combat is honestly so fun

  • @sexychicken1
    @sexychicken1 2 месяца назад

    based

  • @ondironc5535
    @ondironc5535 2 месяца назад

    I'm lvl 21 so far I like the tvs. I'm I weird? I kinda find the tvs cute.

  • @BuiltSimilarG
    @BuiltSimilarG 2 месяца назад

    5:15 Huohuo 2.0 is great tho

  • @JackiShadow
    @JackiShadow Месяц назад

    The whole TV system point is - time sucking. Your time.
    It is cheap and easy to made/develop, Genshin developers at it finest. Remember all that cheap stuff they introduce into Genshin 4 years straights, instead of making actual content/endgame all players beggin for all these years.
    It is hard to do good and entertainment gameplay, so they are hoping to put a little bit of it behind huge TV(and other puzzles/minigames) walls, to make game cheaper in development, for obv reason - increase profit.
    Thx God, I mean thx Kuro, which released WuWa and saved me from that HoYo time and money sucking abomination.
    PS I was so exited about ZZZ year ago and as result, watched few reviews and streams for it at the release day to make final decision - not even worth storage space to launch this game once and delete, lol.

  • @goroshek5444
    @goroshek5444 2 месяца назад

    2:38 wrong game bro

  • @foxtaunt
    @foxtaunt 2 месяца назад +3

    TV system is still way better than that god awful wall walking minigame in Penacony....

  • @hisdudeness690
    @hisdudeness690 2 месяца назад +1

    I don't hate the tv system. In fact, I hate the character interactions in HSR quests where NPCs and our main character only know two poses, which looks so cheap. So, I appreciate that ZZZ cut all these useless character interactions and only have few cut scenes which are genuinely good and interesting.

  • @GabeHowardd
    @GabeHowardd 2 месяца назад

    People that say it's bad never played a JRPG in their entire life.

  • @ForTheViolence
    @ForTheViolence 2 месяца назад

    Too many kids and furries. Combat doesn’t feel as dynamic as wuwa to me. Don’t have time to play them both so it’s be better than wuwa or bust.

  • @OverlordMango
    @OverlordMango 2 месяца назад

    TVs suck. I'm at interknot 26 and the game is starting to get more fun, primarily because of Hollow Zero. It has a minimal amount of TVs and interesting buffs that give power to my ungeared and underleveled characters.
    As an interface, animations playing everywhere on my screen do nothing positive for clarity and add too many unnecessary clicks. As a mode of entertainment, it's essentially forced puzzles. I have not touched the arcade in this game since the first tutorial, and that's okay. I just want to fight with these characters dammit.

  • @TraceguyRune
    @TraceguyRune Месяц назад

    How much did the devs pay you to say that?

  • @Saberdud
    @Saberdud 2 месяца назад +3

    ez skip