Can Russia recover the reputation of once-feared Sukhoi Su-35S?
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Russia has supposedly made enhancements to its once-feared Sukhoi Su-35S jet fighter that is being used in combat against Ukraine.
The single-seat, twin-engined, super-manoeuvrable Russian air superiority aircraft can reach speeds of 2,778km/h, and has a range of around 3,200km (2,000 miles).
However, it is claimed that the aircraft, which has the Nato codename Flanker E, has been modified by its manufacturer after five of them were destroyed in Ukraine.
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They've flown around the clock against a very competent enemy,armed to the teeth with various air defense systems.
Unlike western jets that have only flown against third world militaries,with poor training and poor air defenses.
The aircraft is formidable
It's an evolution of old technology. Probably the biggest issue is that it's radar, while powerful on paper, is PESA technology. Modern AESA radars are just a game changer and Western jets use them. Russia is trying desperately to make an AESA that can fit in a plane but they have been unsuccessful thus far. A PESA puts you at a distinct disadvantage in combat and this is why SU-35 has not been commercially successful in addition to the issues India and other countries have had with service and maintenance.
Quite right.
And not only that, this video isn’t clear on your point:
The SU-35’s weren’t shot down by other planes. They were shot down by SAMs. Even an F-15EX is vulnerable to SAMs if they aren’t cleared out beforehand. Clearly the author of this video did exactly zero homework. The US Air Force sent in F117s to destroy Iraqi air defenses ahead of time so that their F16s and F15s were safe to fly in.
The SU-35 is an air-superiority fighter that often provides support for ground attack aircraft (like the slower SU-34, of which they have lost 25-30). So yeah, it’s gonna encounter SAMs and they are gonna lose a few. It seems to have very little difficulty shooting down other planes, however - the task for which it was primarily designed.
Speed in km/h and range in miles? Nice.
You beat me to it!!
And me.
That's how we in the UK talk however
Aviation across the world measures aircraft speed and altitude in royal measurements, meaning feet, miles, nautical miles, etc. The only exceptions to that rule is China and Russia. So yes the speed if given by a russian source will mention kilometers an hour and if from any other source a royal measurement.
I wonder if the new batch will still have domestic GPS cable tied to the instrument panel like the last ones ? 😂😂
Short answer: NO!!!!
This can probably be extended to most other Russian equipment.
They have some pretty good SAM equipment and everyone respects the AK.
They do actually have a lot of good kit, decent fighters and bombers. Good artillery and excellent anti tank weapons. Their issues are they cannot afford to produce much of the good stuff and what they can afford to produce they lack the components for, sanctions worked.
They have almost zero capability to domestically produce modern thermal imaging and night vision systems, look at the Armata "Universal Combat Platform". They were relying on last gen French imaging systems and a powertrain they were never able to complete development on.
Add in their economy being absolutely decimated over the last few decades and for all their size they have similar actual military power to a single modern western European military.
@@tothethreshold.9965
They do have some good soldiers but too many were killed in the early part of the war.
Their new recruits/conscripts aren’t given much training unfortunately. Or fortunately depending on your stance.
@@damianketcham Aye, it was weird watching that absolute farce of an assault on the airport in the early days of the war. Lost one of their best infantry units almost to a man for nothing. Been a running theme of this war, that and delivering more and more conscripts to pre designated positions to be hit by the same artillery that took out the last group over and over again. Its like their officers have no idea how to solve a problem beyond send more men in.
Like the Challenger 2?
@@dejanperic6770
Yeah!! As well as Soyuz 1!!!
hopefully the upgrades include actually working ejector seats
Thats the update but to make the seat work they had to remove the chute!🤣
_ejector seats_
That wasn't a priority because it couldn't be shot down. 🙂
@@Ed_Stuckey That is what they thought but guess what, it wasn't true!🤣
@@thomasohanlon1060I thought they had to remove the pilot?😂
На жирном пингвине ф35 как с сиденьями🤣?
I’m not sure if the loss of 5 aircraft in this conflict would be considered a significant factor.
It would be if it was a small anti terrorist operation "cough"-afghan"cough" but since it it a large conflict between two nations then the losses is to be expected
@@DZ-qj5br Russia has lost about 250 aircraft in total so far in Ukraine, They also lost about 500 in Afghanistan during the 1980’s
In Ukraine they’re not using their Air Force too aggressively because they know they can’t gain air superiority let alone air supremacy. And they don’t want to lose aircraft they can’t afford to replace. So their aircraft losses have been much lower than their ground equipment losses which now amount to about 3000 tanks destroyed, thousands of artillery pieces destroyed and several thousand other heavy equipment destroyed
@@tylerclayton6081 Absolute and total rubbish 😂😂😂
You people were also saying the soldiers had no more armaments and morale
How has Avdiivka and the aftermath worked for you fools?
Aren't there supposed to be tyres all over the top of it?
Stands no chance compared to the F-35
And the US has made a thousand of them. Shows how Russia has no chance in the air war
@@stranger299a Russian doctrine involves advanced air defence systems. Turkey literally gave up the chance to buy F35 just so they could buy S-400 air defence systems from Russia
It’s just like how the T-14 is an “M1 Abrams killer” it’s half prototype tech that doesn’t fully work and half propaganda promising the next best thing that can destroy all western tech before even moving!
The Russians are laughable 😂
Жирный пингвин ф35 плохо литает🤣
hahahhaahh
Let's see how they replace their shrinking supply of quality pilots.
"Supermanoeuvrable"
Laughs in BVR missile
This video was just about as useless as the su35 itself…
Ok mr expert
"Russian propaganda claims unspecified enhancements to aircraft" is hardly newsworthy. Maybe they added a new ergonomic cupholder.
@@Nainara32вы получили по морде от них во Вьетнаме и Корее🤣
It's such a bad aircraft that india and china have bought them and want more?
It's not the west's fault we were building equipment to counter what Russia said it had
Better jamming capabilities for sure
Flanker is a good updated 1980s jet. It’s the sensors and pilot integration with modern weapons that has given other aircraft the advantage. Russian jets just aren’t on the same level.
It’s still a good aircraft with good range, manoeuvrability but that’s no good if you’re dead from a missile fired from an invisible jet
There are no such thing as invisible jets. What U.S. led Nato operates are at best, low observable jets. Su-35S intercepted the now soon to be retired F-22 over Syria and newer but far less air-air capable F-35's during Syrian War.
@@richardmarsden5610 What?
@@TheKakan1337 Excatly what it says. RuAF Su-35S intercepted USAF 'stealth' jets during the Syrian War over Syria airspace and had thermal weapon locks upon them at times. U.S. led Nato do not have 'invisible' to Russian detection systems warplanes.
An IRST sensor on the Sukhoi Su-35. IRST is a generalized case of forward looking infrared (FLIR), i.e. from forward-looking to all-round situation awareness. Such systems are passive (thermographic camera), meaning they do not give out any radiation of their own, unlike radar.
@@richardmarsden5610 The Irbis-e has already shown poor performance, being vulnerable to jamming and other modern EQ suits. Especially against an adversary with a capable EASA radar.
Trying to compare a 4th gen+ flanker to a F35 is laughable even if you were to compare it to a DAS/EOTS pod.
But to say that it’s on the same level as today’s F-15E, F/A-18E/F, much less ‘superior’ is defying reality.
@@TheKakan1337 F-35 is laughable. Nothing about it works. The Russians and Iranians easily can track it and switch it's systems off. Comparing an F-35 (not a fighter jet) to an actual fighter jet (Su-35S) is pure comedy by an military alliance that is struggling to cope with the bruising it has been given over Ukraine.
India compared the Su-30MKI against whatever the USAF was fielding back in the day and that aircraft was a far superior machine to what the Yanks had put up against it.
Let me tell you one thing
No fighter aircraft it the world is immune to attrition
I repeat no fighter in the world !
Air defenses prevent Russian aircraft from having their way with ukraine wouldn’t even have to worry about that if they had a actual Air Force which Russia is struggling with 😂
Those backview mirrors are definitely 4++ gen.
Russian aircraft are developments of Soviet-era aircraft platforms. They are indeed fabulous aircraft, but that's not what is preventing Russia from projecting airpower outside its own borders. Russia does not have the trained pilots, or the programs to train new pilots, that the West has. Western combat pilots train at least twice a week. Russian combat pilots train twice a month.
In this case, it’s not the aircraft or pilots. Russia has never had the anti air suppression capability that NATO has. And even the US has a hard time destroying all the air defenses.
Russia is only a countrye meanwhile the West is a lot of countries with 1 billion population and halft the world's gdp. I'm actually impressed by Russia to withstand all the western tech in Ukraine by itself without China's help.
@@TheBoobanthey have the pilots and the programs, what you have is over glorified machines that are like any other they arent invincible despite what you may imply.
Not only that but most of the stuff western armies use is cold war era equipment.
Russia isnt a air power focused army, its a primary a land based force.
Idk what soviet era means, the f18, 16, 15, and a bunch others in western air fleets are just as old if not older
Your comment sounds like typical propaganda piece from the Pentagon.
And when did the Su 35 lose its reputation to begin with wise guy. Maybe when it chased away the raptor in Syria several times or when it crushed Ukraine's air force and air defences whether in their Soviet types at the beginning of the war or their Nato types since a year and a half ago. No other 4 generation jet comes even close to the Su 35. So maybe you need to recover your reputation not the Su 35.
Exactly
These clowns have no idea just how many missions these things are flying against a very competent and armed enemy.
You dont think it’s overrated?
Is that why the Egyptians cancelled their order because Irbis-E fell short to the Rafale’s ECM?
Is that why India and Algeria declined orders as well? Is that why India was able to put AESA radars on their SU-30s before Russia did?
Is that why modified Chinese J-11s and J-16s are considered far superior in Avionics, missile capabilities, and radar?
Is that why 20 countries have ordered and fight with the F-35, 8 with the Rafale, 6 with the Gripen, and 1 with the Su-35?
Is that why a Russian missile couldn’t shoot down an unarmed British RC-135?
I’m sorry that the propaganda machine has warped your world view, she’s a beautiful bird that can hold its own against Ukrainian Migs.. but it’s outclassed in literally every other way.
Feel free to educate me if you have a rebuttal, but these aren’t claims from RT or Hindustan times (cHaSeD aWaY a RaPtOr).. this is OSINT that anyone could look up.
Egypt ,as evident from its current position on Gaza, is under total US control and Israeli appeasement. This is why they conceded to their instructions to back away of the deal. As for Algeria it never declined the Su 35 on the contrary it continues to purchase them in addition to the larger beast Su 57. Get your facts right
Zero stealth. Old 1980s design. Move on, nothing to see here...
cars have had 4 wheels for a long time, so it's not about design, it's about performance.
Haven't lost 5 & even if they had they have built more than 5 in 2 years.
SU -35 IS AN UPGRADED VWRSION OF SU-27
SU-30MMK STILL RULES THE SKY WITH 0 SHOT DOWN
Russias tech is a joke
@ddontyy Now how did Russia do in Afghanistan back from the 70's and up through the 80's?🤔 Or maybe Tass didn't remind you of that little "special operation" you had running?
There's approx. 1000 F-35 made to this day. Your talking about 1 plane lost (Found a few days later) due to its tactical supremacy of stealth actually working? Non-stealt (for you info) passenger planes has been lost for weeks/months in deserted areas several times. Is that truly the best the Putler-indoctrinated mind of yours can do?
@@ChipMIK vietnam war,taliban
@@sanidhyakumar5816 I'm not American, but i can tell that in every population where Russia has ever been they hate your guts. Today, yesterday, 30 years ago, 50 years ago. Perhaps a bit of self-criticism and realism could help you from all those wars you need to fight all the time to forget how miserable conditions are in Russia.
No. Russian military hardware orders are being cancelled while US military orders are on an all-time high.
Потому что америка заставляет покупать свой хлам,гейропа зависима🤣
They are being canceled cause they have domeatic market at the moment 😂
US equipment is being annihilated by a Russian military purposely deploying predominantly older systems.
Kh-47M2 Kinzhal was unstoppable until Ukraine started shooting them down.
Sukhoi Su-35S (enhanced version) is likely to meet the same fate.
When. Hoaks
That's just big propaganda by elensky 🤡 😁 as well as his empty words that more than 300k Russian troops have been successfully eliminated.
@@santos54 So why do you need your Putler to keep mobilizing then if your orcs wasn't lost in such massive numbers? Old troops went to disney-world and that's the reason for new meat is needed? Surely they didn't just jump into the grinder.
Living in a reality of your own wishful thinking. Fact here is that the Ukrainian war has shown the U.S. led Nato to be now well behind in the arms race that it pretended to have won against the East.
@@saadzainuri2539 Why do you think the two lead Kinzhal scientists were sent to the gulag after its debut?
They need to modify their own surface to air missiles if they don’t want to lose more planes. 😂
Russian..,. Reputation????
These words can't be used in same sentence.
Distinguish between a great aircraft and a poorly performing air force. If the price is right…..😊
Idk, ask the Ukrainians in Avdivka. Oh wait! Avdivka is in Russia now.
I mean, it is a old jet it can only do so much
Su 35 is actually doing very well in the conflict and has score many kills. The jet is not invincible however. Modern air defence systems can indeed bring them down.
Mig-25 vibes
Might of painted a bear on it to enhance its ability.
Stunt plane 😂
This war hasn't ruined the reputation of the Su-35. In fact, this war has actually proven the lethality of the Su-35 considering it has scored numerous AA kills since the start of the invasion. Even Ukrainians have expressed immense fear for this jet.
One Ukrainian pilot have once said this about the Su-35.
“I wouldn’t even find him on the radar screen by the time he’s already launched a missile.”
Wow they shut down older Soviet jets, impressive😂
That was an Mi 8 helicopter pilot.
@@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr SU-35s has radar, range, range of missiles and maneuverability far better than any Western fighter jet. Anyone who wants to spend just a little bit of time informing themselves will find out that SU-35s is an entire class above all Western made fighter jets.
@@student99bg on papper Russia s weapons always looks better, but in a real fight it does not work how Russia said. Ukraine still has su 24,su 27 and mig29 after 2 years of war. Su 35 will never see f35 or f22 before those 5th gen jets will see su35
This is a lie, the Su-35 has not gotten a single confirmed air to air kill. But it at least 5 have been shot down, and those are only the proven shoot downs, Ukraine claims to have shot down nearly 10 Su-35’s
Either way it’s up against obsolete 1980’s era aircraft without any upgrades over the years. Ukraine’s Mig 29 and Su 27 effective radar range is about 100km and their max missiles range is 60km to 80km.
Even an F-16 Block 50 would have shot down Ukraine’s entire airforce 3 times over by now. Mig-29’s have a 6 wins to 18 losses air to air combat record against western aircraft. They got dominated in Iraq, Serbia and the middle East. The Su-35 has proven incapable of SEAD operations and incapable of dealing with a 40 year old fighter jet fleet.
Su-35’s themselves are just an upgraded version of the Su-27, which was already a technologically inferior aircraft to begin with when it first went into service
Like all Russian planes, the things are beautiful to look at .....thats about it compared to NATO aircraft that are advanced... it might aswell stay on the ground 😁
And don't they know it
The su35 is also advanced. You underestimate the flanker to you're peril.
@@Migthunder no its not. Its a flanker in a fancy suit. Everyone knows it 😁
@BazingaTing ah yes in a fancy suit whilst being better in everyway including thrust vectoring better avionics flight performance. But yk just in a suit you clown🤡.
Вы также думали во Вьетнаме🤣
they already did
Gives speed in kph, range in miles. 😂
Pointless video no information on what the enhancements are or how the 5 aircraft were allegedly lost.
Not likely
No such thing as total stealth American fighters. Just better detection technology is required.
No aircraft is invisible to detection, and no one has ever claimed that. That being said, "stealth" jets are way harder to detect than conventional 4th gen fighters, regardless of new detection methods.
Compare it to the Typhoon., and what do you get?
The best multirole air superiority fighter.
@@richardmarsden5610 do you mean the Typhoon?
@@alanmcmillan6969 Er, no. The Su-35S is the far superior platform and Ukraine War has just proven it. Combat proven, tested in all conditions and the destroyer of the Ukrainian Air Force.
@@richardmarsden5610 But not when the Ukrainian airforce uses a ground man held airdefence system.
It's history.
@@alanmcmillan6969тайфун старое мусорное ведро.
What loses?😅😅
They probably simplified it, it is wartime production after all.
Its a junk like everything else.
Oh look mom, another russian plane made for airshows only.
Он сбил много украинских самолётов а что сбил жирный пингвин ф35?🤣
I know an old lady named su
Johny cash
I think russian still fly biplane nice to know russian have jet after seeing western media I still why union jack still not flying in red square. Then why british citizen are forced into poverty
Essentially an Su-27 but heavily modernised. Itself is a good aircraft but in the modern space against stealth fighters it May struggle
4++ was always a joke but i think it might die to cheaper Mig29 variants rather than better jets.
F35 and raptor never seen war !! Lets see how they do then we can say whose repo is bad !!
@@Rehunauris one on one with whom?
@@muzammilahmad6768no aircraft ever goes one-on-one in actual conflict
@@Orbital_Inclination seriously ? what i said was an air craft worth is known in jet vs jet fight not minor raids against small nation !!!
What does the S stand for?
Stroyevoy "Combatant".
Thanks 👍@@TheTriumfAnt
😅 On Cripton planet S doesn't means S
S=Survivability. They made sure theres a chute in the seat and not just a cup of Putler-tea as they need to try to recover the pilots these days so they have someone to blame for the failure of getting blown out of the sky.
How many tornados did we lose in operation Granny?
Su-35S soon to add F-16's to the list of the aircraft it has successfully engaged and destroyed in combat.
They scrapped that idea, and now they paint the tarmac with their planes outlined so pilots can get simulations during combat exercises.
Don't worry for Russia, mind about yours
One should ask the question, if Ukraine was defending the West, how would its air defences fare?
Well, from what we can tell, the Tornado IDS or Mirage 2000 would not do very well, and neither would the F-16s or F-15s of NATO air forces, the EF2000 or Rafale or Gripen might do a bit better, but air superiority would be denied. Ukraine has the most capable air defence systems that any major nation has gone up against, and many forget that Ukraine was the second most important Republic in the USSR and actually had a good workshare of industrial production: in terms of status it punched above its weight (oh and three or four Soviet premiers were Ukrainian, one Georgian -Stalin- and only two were Russian: even Gorbachev is of Ukrainian origin).
Another way to think of it is, if you go up against the independent Republic of Texas fielding F-15A/B and F-16A/B of the Cold War era, and the MIM-104A (early Patriot models) how would any air force including the USAF) fare against those systems and upgraded HAWK types?
Just from the title, why not? Still got better nukes than usa
That’s not what I’m seeing😂
The Russian Air Force has relied particularly heavily on its Su-35s to tackle Ukrainian fighters, with the aircraft continuing to be acquired in large numbers by the Russian Air Force and designed for air to air combat against far more formidable targets than those in Ukraine’s inventory. Not only is the Su-35 a significantly more modern fighter, using a phased array radar and 21st century avionics against Ukraine’s 1980s combat aircraft, but it is also from a much higher weight range meaning it can carry significantly greater firepower, larger sensors, and heavier longer ranged R-37M air to air missiles which have over triple the range of the R-27s carried by the MiGs. Although modern MiG-29 variants such as the MiG-29M could pose a challenge to Su-35s in air to air combat, the ageing Soviet-built variants used by Ukraine are effectively obsolete and have not seen their capabilities significantly improved since the 1980s. The Su-35’s main combat strengths include its extreme manoeuvrability, triple radars and extreme engagement range, which are not currently seen on any Western fighter classes. Having been widely used in combat in Ukraine, the aircraft were first allocated to an aggressor training unit in September 2022 reportedly to impart experience from the Ukrainian theatre. Deploying from airfields in both Russia and Belarus, the fighter class’ most widely praised engagement was its reported victory over Su-27s over Ukraine’s Zhytomyr region during which four of the older jets were shot down for no Russian losses. The way Su-35s have been deployed indicates it is not unlikely that the bulk of the MiG-29s shot down in recent air to air engagements were engaged by the aircraft.
Source Military Watch Magazine
You really need to go out and get a life Russkie. Richard Marsdon, my arse!
It's easy to spot a non-native English speaker because they are unable to understand colloquialisms, such as "invisible planes" , & have interpreted this literally 😂
The West only has one aircraft that can knock out the SU35 and that is the F22 raptor. Which is no longer manufactured and of the 180 built only 120 are still serviceable. As for the Eurofighter or the F35 fantasy, some people here need to go away and do their homework.
S200 and Patriots are knocking this plane out of the sky with impunity. The West doesn't need the Eurofighter of F35 to defeat this plane.
You have fallen for the hype and propaganda of this plane.
*Russian Su-57 Fighters to Now Serve as ‘Mothership Carriers’ For Miniature Drones*
Small unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) have been developed to be carried by and operate alongside Russian Su-57 fifth generation fighter aircraft, according to an informed source cited by state media. "Mini-UAVs to be used for various purposes have been created for the Su-57, which the aircraft will be able to carry on an external sling and inside the fuselage, and drop in the air. It is planned that the fighter will launch several drones at once and control this group of drones," the source stated. The source elaborated that the UAVs will be able to launch air strikes, conduct electronic warfare, and provide reconnaissance, and will reportedly be dropped in groups by Su-57 units to break through enemy air defences. Doing so can capitalise on the Su-57’s high endurance and stealth capabilities, which allow each fighter to carry a considerable payload of smaller aircraft over long distances while masking its presence from enemy assets. The Russian Air Force is set to form its first full strength Su-57 squadron in 2024, with the fighters’ production rate having reportedly doubled in 2023 to an estimated 12 airframes per year.
Su-57s have been deployed in combat from March 2022 for a range of roles, which have reportedly included strikes, air defence suppression, supporting electronic warfare efforts, and even beyond visual range air to air combat. Operations in Ukraine have made the Russian Air Force the only service in the world with experience operating fifth generation fighters in high intensity combat. The ability to serve as a drone carrier is the latest in a long line of new features announced for the Su-57, with a new communications suite secured by artificial intelligence reported in August, and new data links and radar absorbent fireglass technologies reported in the first half of the year. In the first week of November the fighter class was reported to have integrated a new class of radar evading cruise missile based on the Kh-101/102 carried by strategic bombers, which provides by far the longest air to surface engagement range of any tactical aircraft in the world at around 3500km using either conventional or nuclear payloads.
Source Military Watch Magazine
Where are these mini-UAV's?
No, no it can't. 😆😆
Can Forces News recover the reputation of their never-revered RUclips channel after a video like this and make me not click the "Don't Recommend Channel" button? Probably not.
What on earth do you mean recover its reputation? it never lost it. Hilarious for the click bait headline
No one is going to want this plane except N Korean and Iran, the two most heavily sanctioned Countries on the planet. You're living in a fantasy land.
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Lol.
Server schizophrenia is online
Delirium again,Igor
It’s a great plane let down by older missiles and pilots with too little training.
Lmao it has longest range missiles in any of jet in the world and excellent radar. RUclips experts at it again. Su35 bvr is a nightmare in the skies
@@Stockfish1511it does? Is that why the Egyptians cancelled their order because Irbis-E fell short to the Rafale’s ECM?
Is that why India and Algeria declined orders as well?
Is that why modified Chinese J-11s and J-16s are considered far superior in Avionics, missile capabilities, and radar?
Is that why 20 countries have ordered and fight with the F-35, 8 with the Rafale, 6 with the Gripen, and 1 with the Su-35?
Is that why a Russian missile couldn’t shoot down an unarmed British RC-135?
I’m sorry that the propaganda machine has warped your world view, she’s a beautiful bird that can hold its own against Ukrainian Migs.. but it’s outclassed in literally every other way.
Feel free to educate me if you have a rebuttal, but these aren’t claims from RT or Hindustan times.. this is OSINT that anyone could look up.
Gay forces news..
I for one can't wait to see its enhanced cartwheeling into a forest capabilities.