美丽的 Sylvia Chan, Covid 19 virus should be held accountable for all the misfortune and unhappiness around the world, If I can, I really want to give the Covid 19 virus the death penalty in order to save everyone in this world and everyone in this world can lead a normal life again. Covid 19 virus cause many people around the world to suffer, death penalty is the only punishment for this covid 19 virus.
agree ! KTV owners who break the rule ! ..those men are also very irresponsible ! but also wondering why no spot checks by relevant authority on these night spots ? so many of them flouting rules ?? !!
I blame: 1. The gov, caz I rly don't believe they so stupid think such ktv is clean. I blame them for not sending the police raid frequent enough and go do regular spot check. Caz I even saw a lot girls boldly walk around tanglin area hooking up on guys. So obvious. Means the police nv do enough wah. They shld have the mindset that ktv might not abide n do illegal activities etc. So shld do regular check. I know if police keep come maybe will ruin biz but can at least send some plainclothes police do more checks w/o affecting their business n the patrons mood? 2. I blame the ktv bosses, and i think shld shame the people who go and put there out in the news, the bosses and patrons. But they dw to. Then why the satay guy kena exposed big big on news, is not fair. Does it means got big shots ppl in the ktv so don't dare exposed but hawker assistant see him no up so exposed. The news make it so explicit. Anyone work in that hawker or always go there also know exactly who liao right. So if want expose, expose everyone. Who tell them cheat on their partners, and ktv bosses earn this kind of no conscience money.
Besides cheekopek activities, my guess is that some of these business owners/workers/hosts/customers also indulge in narcotics. The environment of these sleazy KTV's just breeds undesirable behavior that is swept under the rug by Singapore Gov't. MOH sending discreet texts is also a concern. Why so discreet? They don't apply the same courtesy with people who litter and have to perform CWO but they are being discreet with people who visit KTV? Sounds like maybe some of the visitors were senior government workers so there's some special treatment? I thought Singapore Gov't is free from corruption? Sigh....
I really facepalm at those people who blame MOH for 'ruining' families. It's completely their own wrongdoing for cheating behind their wives, don't push the blame to someone else.
Totally agree with ur viewpoints. The main culprits are still the men that patronise those KTV, especially those who go behind their families’ backs. And we now have to bear the brunt of their irresponsibility 😖
@@TheThirstySisters think we leave that to the gov agencies to do. Some matters is best leave it to them. We just have to do our part and stay safe. And protect our family and friends.
Not only ktv owners should be held responsible, everyone that go should also be responsible, never let our guard down for covid 19. If everyone is responsible, this will not happen. Hope now they just own up and isolate themselves.
i think that the people in the ktv is the most responsible because they had a choice on whether to go anot. if no one went, it would not spread so much uk :(
I can give you the overview of the whole nightlife entertainment in SG that you can never find in the news etc. KTVs, Siamdiu/GMC, Joo Chiat/Geylang bars, Massage parlours, online services and many more. There are still many hidden things still missing in the videos. But great effort. Thumbs up!
I love this episode very much , you guys are spot on, on every single note, yea I agreed with Nina that the ktv bosses should b held responsible for this outbreak, and MOM is not to blame for this. I agreed that most importantly is for all those man to own up n stop hiding ,go get it check out n let us live in peace . By the way , I hv no idea that ktv is not karaoke ;) learn something new from u guys today ;)
The KTV operators but they fiend ignorance. Both operators and patrons are aware every of their moves is sleazy and will do everything to avoid being caught in the open, covid or not. Chance of survival in marriage is zero while there is more chance of survival from covid. Tbh, I don't think the govt is totally ignorant of such ktv which exist since decades ago though I don't blame them on this case.
KTV owners must pay severely for this mess in one way or another. Patrons must be investigated for the breach and if they get into shit with their wives, well you reaped what you sowed
I think that what they said in the conclusion was right, same as the one night stand video, if they have these thoughts ,that means that there was a flaw in the relationship to begin with, so they better break up or divorce first. *FYI this is just my opinion pls don't attack me tq very much😀*
They did. But they didn't report some of the KTVs, bcos they were. threatened by some gangs, or else they (the safe ambassador) n their family will get into trouble. I heard it from 1 of my cols just ytd, that 1 of the KTVs was called Supreme or Suprem...(not sure how the name is spelled). But yea, is true
These places should get banned for both single/non-singles. The behavior at these places objectify women even more. Plus, having these establishments around make some men think "it's ok" when it's not. How does allowing single men to indulge themselves prevent the same men from continuing their habit after they get married? If they are "thirsty", they should buy the right "toys".
Thank you Nina & Sylvia! I am pineapple here. I really got a good laugh on this episode, especially the ‘rambutan rub’ part is so funny! I think you guys are amazing for being so creative yet funny to even come out some biz ideas for all these irresponsible ktv owners how they should do they biz ‘right’ w/o creating such ‘Mess’ now. Really disgusted by all this non-single man for blaming the government for your own mess. This is truly irresponsible and disgrace to your family members and unfair to your wife/kids. 🤬 p.s I think the live stream works and you guys can consider investing in the live stream business I think confirm huat! 🤣
omg Nina's laughter at 1:54... i cannot... it got me laughing.... then 18:05 when Slyvia say, if I am MOH, i go your house, catch you, drag you out wor ... like talking to her nephew or niece.... hahahah....!!!
haha..people blaming MOH..take responsibility for own action la..the married people who go find chicken that's their own choice & responsibility...they have a choice to go to their wife and family but they chose KTV so..action = consequences. Just because its there doesn't mean you have to enter it...like many things in life..you have a choice.
LOL. I ever seen. Men scolded wife for asking 20 dollars to pay things for the family. And Men give 100 dollars to hostesses when they said they haven't have their dinner.
I don't think there is a single party you can pin ultimate responsibility on. Government side, I'm just surprised that they are still issuing social visit pass, and that bf/gf are considered familial ties until they changed it after this whole saga.
OMG SISTERS!!!! i really thought the KTV is the singing KARAOKE type ehhhh. now that i know, oh goshhh i feel so dumb HAHAHA. anyway, i would like to say stay strong to all my SG neighbors. If Malaysia can go thru it, you guys can too!! hwaiting! and yes I agree that the KTV's should be responsible for this issue because if you don't open then people cannot go, then less Covid infections then no clusters what. lastly, i love all the suggestions that you sisters are throwing out like hazmat suit, onlyfans and the green screen thing. it might actually work eh! hahaha :D
Pre-Covid, these KTVs are very popular entertainment places for a lot of industries. Construction industry, marine industry, all kinds. Many are familiar with the concept of business and deals being made on the golf course. KTVs are where the relationship and rapport is built between business associates. Especially the non-atas type.
Great podcast, thank you for delivering great content :-) Definitely agree that KTV owners should be held responsible but at the same time I disagree that the hostesses are not at fault for this breakout. As much as they are employees of the establishment, what they are doing is 1. Illegal like what the both of you mentioned, since they are just on visiting pass. 2. Also morally wrong to sell your body to exchange for money. - Just like how it is morally wrong for the KTV owners to operate such businesses even if they know that they are flouting the rules and this could lead to an outbreak. There are many ways to earn money; people can work many odd jobs to support their family to get the same amount that the hostesses earn, but how can we say that what they are doing is not seeking the easy way out? If their families really need so much money from them, they are probably choosing a lifestyle that is way out of their reach. You can wish and work hard for a better life through right outlets. It is important for them to consider how their actions will impact others, in this case the entire Singapore. Even with the theory of dd & ss, the supply is also created by these hostesses who choose the easier way out to earn money. They chose to follow these establishments even if they were on visiting passes, so I feel that the blame towards them from the general public is still justified.
Thank you for this message you are sending out to Singaporeans.🥺 I was actually pissed at the government for bringing back the restrictions, but your opinions actually gave me a better perspective on the situation 🥰❤️
I don't get why the govt is giving them a choice instead of doing their usual fine and close the business down. And if those men are already doing shady things behind their wives' backs and having unprotected sexual activities, I wouldn't expect them to be worried about covid nor have integrity to come forward and own up.
That's why LOL Red district safer than KTV MOH must make sure these men go for HIV testing 6 months later from now.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 If not. Not only covid-19 HIV case also rising.
just wanna add that the hostesses are not exactly poor and struggling to feed their families. they can make a lot of money doing this, always in branded goods, young and playful. i doubt they were really forced to work during the pandemic, they just wanna make quick cash.
@@TheThirstySisters agree. I would put more responsibility on the KTV. Nonetheless. sylvia seemed to imply that as if they are so poor thing and shouldn't be blamed. just saying it may not be the case.
Hi there, I am trying to clarify that didn't the government already published in the newspaper through media that the root cause of this spread wasn't started first from KTV through the Vietnamese? Instead it was then explained that it started from Jurong Fishery Port which the fishermen mingled with the Indonesian fishermen side?
Thanks for the video it s gd and fun. Totally agree tat the owners who run this should should the biggest responsibility. However on the point tat the hostess is just doing their job and they should not be blame is debatable. First thsir job is illegal, 2nd even its legal they will know the risk involved under such circumstances even u Don get covid u may get something else. I would say is a fair trade high risk comes with higher returns. The 3rd point is on the supply and demand, blaming on the demand tat cause for the supply is not totally true or fair. Example for drugs why the supply or drug trafficker shoulder great legal responsibility than the drug addict facing death penalty so in ur case u blame the demand then those drug addict should also face the death penalty too right. If so then there will be less demand. Then those drug trafficker or Lord will be out of job. Lol. I understand why most ppl blame on the hostess as b4 this cluster the community spread is low and under control hence it low possibility tat those guys are carrying the virus although not 100%. So chances the virus is import in which mean higher possibility is the hostess tat carry the virus. In my personnal opinion all parties are to be responsible. Understand why ppl blame the gov as its their responsibility to manage all these. You are right to say they are not possible to monitor the movement of those hostess but they can increase surveillance on illegal business operations like those KTV. Public should take part of the blame as if they found something suspicious activity like those illegal gathering all or most of us just turn a blind eye rather to report to the authorities. Those illegal gathering may also cause another cluster. Last but not least fighting thses covid war we need everybody effort so all of us should stop blaming one another unless you have done ur part (including report or bao toh ppl who have breach the rules).
The TV in KTVs is just for show lah, these chikobei go there not for the "TV", but for the hostesses. Garmen can be so stupid to think these KTVs were doing "F&B"???? Faintz!!!!
Those working illegally should be punished. Those who come into the country knowing that we are already in a pandemic and deceiving our laws to work here illegally, should be severely punished. But in the first place if this KTVs did not operate in such a manner " butterfly", during a pandemic ,none of this would have happened. Now everyone in singapore has to pay the price ... haish.
Should take serious actions against bosses behind these KTVs, hostesses and patrons. All were IRRESPONSIBLE. I also thought KTVs are for karaokes and drinking only with bar girls but didn't know that bang bang and bj can take place inside the KTVs. Unbelievable that govt allows so many KTVs here.
Do you think there were first the patrons or first the ktvs? Kinda like the eggs or chicken first question isn't it? But to how i see, i'm pretty sure the ktvs or brothel kind of business come first. Humans in its earliest form never had ktvs or brothels, sexual intercourse and attraction is free game for everyone in its natural form. Its only when human society progress that people start to capitalize on it and we then have our first sex industry. From brothel in the past to ktvs today, or even pornography. Who knows in future VR sex or sex dolls can be commercialize the same was as ktv or brothels. The demand has always been here since the first human exist, its always going to be someone who is able to come up with a new type of supply to capitalize on that demand. The demand has always been the same, its just that the supply is ever evolving to be competitive.
I think the government IS at fault, though not the main culprit. Because I believe they would have known this kind of industry existed for so many years and did nothing effective to stop it. I mean these KTV can send recruitment msgs and advertisements online how can the govt not know. They KNOW but did nothing or at least not taking big movement. Singapore is a very small society one piece of shit can easily affect the entire society. So strict regulations must be implemented. Also, the demander and supplier who keeps this shit going on are the most reprehensible culprits. Some people might say "what's wrong with prostituting, they also working hard to earn a living wah". This is wrong. Because your body and your dignity is not something that can be quantified with money.
The KTV, hostesses and patrons are all equally to be blamed. All for the same reason, breeching the social distancing rules and restrictions. Simple as that. I don't care if the KTV has need to earn money or the hostesses are pitiful, or the men are cheating. Those are all personal problems that should be addressed differently, through different channels like applying for relief grant or getting counseling for marriage or whatnot. I find it appalling that people are trying to shift the blame to these irrelevant problems or even justify it. The fact remains that all parties concerned broke the law and breeched the social distancing rules which is the root of the problem, they should all be punished for that. Simi ideas to make ktv fun or they could have kept people in one room, simi you'd do the same if you also illegally trying to work and earn money overseas, simi single is okay or married then cannot. If you are visiting or working in these illegally operated ktvs, you are all at fault.
Should talk about the gym closures for us who worked real hard for the gyms and for competitors and lastly for people whole has to adapt crazily to the new demands anddddd people who lost their income over GYMMMMMMMMMMM CLOSURES
I think the government could have done better. If these normal ppl like thirsty sister can easily know what kind of settings the KTV are, then im sure the gov know that too .. considering sg government are some very smart ppl. i believe they already have a list of very high risk businesses setup in terms of covid. i wonder why they are still allowed to operate? if they are stll allowed then at the very least gov ask the to put cctv all over inside the establishment and ask them to report every night to ensure compliance. forget abt privacy. we are all using tracetogether alreadyto keep everyone save. so forget about privacy outside your home. .. so in short gov could hv done better
I blame: 1. The gov, caz I rly don't believe they so stupid think such ktv is clean. I blame them for not sending the police raid frequent enough and go do regular spot check. Caz I even saw a lot girls boldly walk around tanglin area hooking up on guys. So obvious. Means the police nv do enough wah. They shld have the mindset that ktv might not abide n do illegal activities etc. So shld do regular check. I know if police keep come maybe will ruin biz but can at least send some plainclothes police do more checks w/o affecting their business n the patrons mood? 2. I blame the ktv bosses, and i think shld shame the people who go and put there out in the news, tje bosses and patrons. But they dw too. Then why the satay guy kena exposed big big on news, is not fair. Does it got big shots ppl don't dare exposed but hawker see him no up so exposed. The new make it so explicit. Anyone work in that hawker or always go there also know exactly who liao right. So if want exposed, expose everyone. Who tell them cheat on their partners, and ktv bosses earn this kind of no conscience money.
In general, Men have 2 heads..... "One BIG Head" and "One SMALL Head" , they tends to use their SMALL Head to think. For the KTV clusters, I'm very sure they use their Small Head to think
I blame the old guys cos if they didn't have the urge to go then even if is there, they also won't go what? Cos of the urge that's why. Is not an excuse for them? Everyone have urge also??
Ktv have been around for so long already. Responsible shld of course be the owner. But e G shouldn't allow it to be turn into a bistro without supervision. G shld know what ktv mean when ey hv so much Intel on e ground.
As i know most of the female partners they know their male partner do goes to KTV ,as saying all cat goes for fish , they just pretend not knowing does not want to bring out the matter as long as the guy still love them and the family. As their female partner knowly that they will not do what the KTV girls can and will do those "exciting Activities " with them .Don't get me wrong i am still single and do not patronise KTV just know it when chit chat with friends ,
well I hope MOH would be descreet as not to mention the "cluster" in the sms when informing someone to take the test .....ultimately..what matter most is to take the test and not the "cluster"
This nightclub KTV is for chi ko pek mah. you open night club ktv sure kena covid 19. this ktv call 夜总会 and not ktv. The hostress are legal but temporary pass are not legal. Sex is very normal bc that is the purpose of going there. This place is there for many years and is legal .
Hey TTS fam 🙆♀️ Who do you think should be held accountable for this? 🤷♀️😜
美丽的 Sylvia Chan, Covid 19 virus should be held accountable for all the misfortune and unhappiness around the world, If I can, I really want to give the Covid 19 virus the death penalty in order to save everyone in this world and everyone in this world can lead a normal life again. Covid 19 virus cause many people around the world to suffer, death penalty is the only punishment for this covid 19 virus.
agree ! KTV owners who break the rule ! ..those men are also very irresponsible ! but also wondering why no spot checks by relevant authority on these night spots ? so many of them flouting rules ?? !!
I blame:
1. The gov, caz I rly don't believe they so stupid think such ktv is clean. I blame them for not sending the police raid frequent enough and go do regular spot check.
Caz I even saw a lot girls boldly walk around tanglin area hooking up on guys. So obvious. Means the police nv do enough wah. They shld have the mindset that ktv might not abide n do illegal activities etc. So shld do regular check. I know if police keep come maybe will ruin biz but can at least send some plainclothes police do more checks w/o affecting their business n the patrons mood?
2. I blame the ktv bosses, and i think shld shame the people who go and put there out in the news, the bosses and patrons. But they dw to. Then why the satay guy kena exposed big big on news, is not fair. Does it means got big shots ppl in the ktv so don't dare exposed but hawker assistant see him no up so exposed. The news make it so explicit. Anyone work in that hawker or always go there also know exactly who liao right. So if want expose, expose everyone. Who tell them cheat on their partners, and ktv bosses earn this kind of no conscience money.
Besides cheekopek activities, my guess is that some of these business owners/workers/hosts/customers also indulge in narcotics. The environment of these sleazy KTV's just breeds undesirable behavior that is swept under the rug by Singapore Gov't. MOH sending discreet texts is also a concern. Why so discreet? They don't apply the same courtesy with people who litter and have to perform CWO but they are being discreet with people who visit KTV? Sounds like maybe some of the visitors were senior government workers so there's some special treatment? I thought Singapore Gov't is free from corruption? Sigh....
Lets band together to expose these KTV bosses 👏🏻👏🏻
I really facepalm at those people who blame MOH for 'ruining' families. It's completely their own wrongdoing for cheating behind their wives, don't push the blame to someone else.
Take accountability for your mistakes 📢📢
Ya man they are rly irresponsible
Typical singaporean blaming other instead taking responsibility.
Totally agree with ur viewpoints. The main culprits are still the men that patronise those KTV, especially those who go behind their families’ backs. And we now have to bear the brunt of their irresponsibility 😖
The wives and children most poor thing. If they get covid from the men 😢
The owners of those ‘KTV’s be held responsible. Pivot into F&B, just stick to it. Not give add-ons or ‘specials’. Nothing beats family bonding time.
Let's start calling them out 👏😛
@@TheThirstySisters think we leave that to the gov agencies to do. Some matters is best leave it to them. We just have to do our part and stay safe. And protect our family and friends.
Owner of the KTV got the F&B term wrongly. They thought is F something, B something.
I think the Gov-ment should just fine these KTVs big time, one time shoot them all.... then they will learn their lesson.
Not only ktv owners should be held responsible, everyone that go should also be responsible, never let our guard down for covid 19.
If everyone is responsible, this will not happen.
Hope now they just own up and isolate themselves.
Lets push these men to GO 👏🏻 GET 👏🏻 TESTED 👏🏻
lowkey everyone teachers say "i just went for a swab" the whole class goes "he's that kind who would do these things ???" great episode !!
Teachers have to go for swab test every 2 weeks if they are involved in no-mask activities (eg: sports cca, PE classes)
@@Chloe-dl3lh my teacher not in this category leh
i think that the people in the ktv is the most responsible because they had a choice on whether to go anot. if no one went, it would not spread so much uk :(
omg nina's comment on green screens killed me
Ah!! i've been waiting you guys never fail to make me smile
I can give you the overview of the whole nightlife entertainment in SG that you can never find in the news etc. KTVs, Siamdiu/GMC, Joo Chiat/Geylang bars, Massage parlours, online services and many more. There are still many hidden things still missing in the videos. But great effort. Thumbs up!
I love this episode very much , you guys are spot on, on every single note, yea I agreed with Nina that the ktv bosses should b held responsible for this outbreak, and MOM is not to blame for this. I agreed that most importantly is for all those man to own up n stop hiding ,go get it check out n let us live in peace . By the way , I hv no idea that ktv is not karaoke ;) learn something new from u guys today ;)
Good idea TTS! Online dancing session + OnlyFans + Alcohol delivery is the way to go 👍🏻
I totally agree, glad to have this ranting session with you both hahaha ! And wow I learnt new things about these "ktv" too
The KTV operators but they fiend ignorance. Both operators and patrons are aware every of their moves is sleazy and will do everything to avoid being caught in the open, covid or not. Chance of survival in marriage is zero while there is more chance of survival from covid.
Tbh, I don't think the govt is totally ignorant of such ktv which exist since decades ago though I don't blame them on this case.
Wife killing them is worse than covid killing them 🤪🤪
KTV owners must pay severely for this mess in one way or another. Patrons must be investigated for the breach and if they get into shit with their wives, well you reaped what you sowed
I think that what they said in the conclusion was right, same as the one night stand video, if they have these thoughts ,that means that there was a flaw in the relationship to begin with, so they better break up or divorce first.
*FYI this is just my opinion pls don't attack me tq very much😀*
Im just wondering... we see safe ambassadors going round everywhere, anyone went to check on the 'f&b' ktv in the first place?
They did. Saw them go into pub and check .
They did. But they didn't report some of the KTVs, bcos they were. threatened by some gangs, or else they (the safe ambassador) n their family will get into trouble. I heard it from 1 of my cols just ytd, that 1 of the KTVs was called Supreme or Suprem...(not sure how the name is spelled). But yea, is true
Love this topic. But this is just the tip of an iceberg. There are so much illegal activities out there.
These places should get banned for both single/non-singles. The behavior at these places objectify women even more. Plus, having these establishments around make some men think "it's ok" when it's not. How does allowing single men to indulge themselves prevent the same men from continuing their habit after they get married? If they are "thirsty", they should buy the right "toys".
Hi gals
Really enjoyed your show n humour thrown in
Keep it up
Cheers, take care
Stay safe
MOM giving the best bro code 🤣
Thank you Nina & Sylvia! I am pineapple here. I really got a good laugh on this episode, especially the ‘rambutan rub’ part is so funny! I think you guys are amazing for being so creative yet funny to even come out some biz ideas for all these irresponsible ktv owners how they should do they biz ‘right’ w/o creating such ‘Mess’ now. Really disgusted by all this non-single man for blaming the government for your own mess. This is truly irresponsible and disgrace to your family members and unfair to your wife/kids. 🤬 p.s I think the live stream works and you guys can consider investing in the live stream business I think confirm huat! 🤣
omg Nina's laughter at 1:54... i cannot... it got me laughing....
then 18:05 when Slyvia say, if I am MOH, i go your house, catch you, drag you out wor ... like talking to her nephew or niece.... hahahah....!!!
I had the wrong idea about KTVs. 😂 Thanks for clearing it up. I agree with putting the hammer on the KTV owners and husbands.
Lol I like it how sylvia and Nina make a joke on the Ktv men
haha..people blaming MOH..take responsibility for own action la..the married people who go find chicken that's their own choice & responsibility...they have a choice to go to their wife and family but they chose KTV so..action = consequences. Just because its there doesn't mean you have to enter it...like many things in life..you have a choice.
LOL.
I ever seen.
Men scolded wife for asking 20 dollars to pay things for the family.
And
Men give 100 dollars to hostesses when they said they haven't have their dinner.
Sylvia is so charismatic
I early!!!! Welcome back TTS we was waiting
I don't think there is a single party you can pin ultimate responsibility on. Government side, I'm just surprised that they are still issuing social visit pass, and that bf/gf are considered familial ties until they changed it after this whole saga.
OMG SISTERS!!!! i really thought the KTV is the singing KARAOKE type ehhhh. now that i know, oh goshhh i feel so dumb HAHAHA. anyway, i would like to say stay strong to all my SG neighbors. If Malaysia can go thru it, you guys can too!! hwaiting! and yes I agree that the KTV's should be responsible for this issue because if you don't open then people cannot go, then less Covid infections then no clusters what. lastly, i love all the suggestions that you sisters are throwing out like hazmat suit, onlyfans and the green screen thing. it might actually work eh! hahaha :D
We’re glad we could give you abit of insight into the shady world of KTVs 😜❤️
Anything goes inside lup sup KTVs as long you splash the cash
Pre-Covid, these KTVs are very popular entertainment places for a lot of industries. Construction industry, marine industry, all kinds. Many are familiar with the concept of business and deals being made on the golf course. KTVs are where the relationship and rapport is built between business associates. Especially the non-atas type.
ktv and fishing port cluster are linked!
just realised the rambutan looks like covid spike protein
Thank you , I first time learn so much slang 🤭
My one and only dream girl is 甜美可爱的 Sylvia Chan.
We need more KTV to uplift our boring lives.
Great podcast, thank you for delivering great content :-) Definitely agree that KTV owners should be held responsible but at the same time I disagree that the hostesses are not at fault for this breakout. As much as they are employees of the establishment, what they are doing is
1. Illegal like what the both of you mentioned, since they are just on visiting pass.
2. Also morally wrong to sell your body to exchange for money. - Just like how it is morally wrong for the KTV owners to operate such businesses even if they know that they are flouting the rules and this could lead to an outbreak. There are many ways to earn money; people can work many odd jobs to support their family to get the same amount that the hostesses earn, but how can we say that what they are doing is not seeking the easy way out? If their families really need so much money from them, they are probably choosing a lifestyle that is way out of their reach. You can wish and work hard for a better life through right outlets.
It is important for them to consider how their actions will impact others, in this case the entire Singapore.
Even with the theory of dd & ss, the supply is also created by these hostesses who choose the easier way out to earn money. They chose to follow these establishments even if they were on visiting passes, so I feel that the blame towards them from the general public is still justified.
Thank you for this message you are sending out to Singaporeans.🥺 I was actually pissed at the government for bringing back the restrictions, but your opinions actually gave me a better perspective on the situation 🥰❤️
Glad we could help babe 💞🥰
21 dislikes from cheating husbands who went to ktv and kena virus 🤣
Hey wives, please ensure your men to "empty magazine" before going out without you... Hahahahahaaha...
oooh.. new word taynaynay. i will tell everyone i learnt it here.
I don't get why the govt is giving them a choice instead of doing their usual fine and close the business down. And if those men are already doing shady things behind their wives' backs and having unprotected sexual activities, I wouldn't expect them to be worried about covid nor have integrity to come forward and own up.
I follow some but the singlish is too dark I'm lost for parts, I hope they cut out the singlish and go for a more global audience
Both the men and the ktv operators.
Wonder who are the real OWNERS of these KTV
I think I go to my bathroom and sing karaoke 😅 during this convid 19 situation
That's why
LOL
Red district safer than KTV
MOH must make sure these men go for HIV testing 6 months later from now.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
If not.
Not only covid-19
HIV case also rising.
just wanna add that the hostesses are not exactly poor and struggling to feed their families. they can make a lot of money doing this, always in branded goods, young and playful. i doubt they were really forced to work during the pandemic, they just wanna make quick cash.
Lets give these ladies the benefit of the doubt, they’re definitely not the only ones to blame here! 🙆🏻♀️🙆🏻♀️
@@TheThirstySisters agree. I would put more responsibility on the KTV. Nonetheless. sylvia seemed to imply that as if they are so poor thing and shouldn't be blamed. just saying it may not be the case.
Hi there, I am trying to clarify that didn't the government already published in the newspaper through media that the root cause of this spread wasn't started first from KTV through the Vietnamese? Instead it was then explained that it started from Jurong Fishery Port which the fishermen mingled with the Indonesian fishermen side?
On the topic of "anyhow use vocabulary", violate but with permission. Hahahaha.
Thanks for the video it s gd and fun. Totally agree tat the owners who run this should should the biggest responsibility. However on the point tat the hostess is just doing their job and they should not be blame is debatable. First thsir job is illegal, 2nd even its legal they will know the risk involved under such circumstances even u Don get covid u may get something else. I would say is a fair trade high risk comes with higher returns. The 3rd point is on the supply and demand, blaming on the demand tat cause for the supply is not totally true or fair. Example for drugs why the supply or drug trafficker shoulder great legal responsibility than the drug addict facing death penalty so in ur case u blame the demand then those drug addict should also face the death penalty too right. If so then there will be less demand. Then those drug trafficker or Lord will be out of job. Lol. I understand why most ppl blame on the hostess as b4 this cluster the community spread is low and under control hence it low possibility tat those guys are carrying the virus although not 100%. So chances the virus is import in which mean higher possibility is the hostess tat carry the virus.
In my personnal opinion all parties are to be responsible. Understand why ppl blame the gov as its their responsibility to manage all these. You are right to say they are not possible to monitor the movement of those hostess but they can increase surveillance on illegal business operations like those KTV. Public should take part of the blame as if they found something suspicious activity like those illegal gathering all or most of us just turn a blind eye rather to report to the authorities. Those illegal gathering may also cause another cluster. Last but not least fighting thses covid war we need everybody effort so all of us should stop blaming one another unless you have done ur part (including report or bao toh ppl who have breach the rules).
The TV in KTVs is just for show lah, these chikobei go there not for the "TV", but for the hostesses. Garmen can be so stupid to think these KTVs were doing "F&B"???? Faintz!!!!
These girls, mamasan, and club earn tons of money without paying tax!!!
well the question is, should we make it legal in the first place to get a better control?
Those working illegally should be punished. Those who come into the country knowing that we are already in a pandemic and deceiving our laws to work here illegally, should be severely punished. But in the first place if this KTVs did not operate in such a manner " butterfly", during a pandemic ,none of this would have happened. Now everyone in singapore has to pay the price ... haish.
Should take serious actions against bosses behind these KTVs, hostesses and patrons. All were IRRESPONSIBLE. I also thought KTVs are for karaokes and drinking only with bar girls but didn't know that bang bang and bj can take place inside the KTVs. Unbelievable that govt allows so many KTVs here.
In other asean countries the mayor and police are in charge of the premises and the girls ??????
Blame the patrons, if no patrons KTV will close down
Do you think there were first the patrons or first the ktvs? Kinda like the eggs or chicken first question isn't it? But to how i see, i'm pretty sure the ktvs or brothel kind of business come first. Humans in its earliest form never had ktvs or brothels, sexual intercourse and attraction is free game for everyone in its natural form. Its only when human society progress that people start to capitalize on it and we then have our first sex industry. From brothel in the past to ktvs today, or even pornography. Who knows in future VR sex or sex dolls can be commercialize the same was as ktv or brothels. The demand has always been here since the first human exist, its always going to be someone who is able to come up with a new type of supply to capitalize on that demand. The demand has always been the same, its just that the supply is ever evolving to be competitive.
well.. HK was in a similar situation last year with the rich ladies social dancing with their 'instructors'. same sh!t different style only.
Two wrongs cannot equal to Right
How about a topic on gender equality where women bring in the money and men work from home as househusband?
At this rate anything is also the G's fault lol so sad being them
*This did not age well.*
So will ICA ban the import ????????
No wonder this channel allowed to prosper
Cheating is legal btw. Why need to punish anyone for that
In the end it is the sexual weakness of men.
We place nation before community and society above self.
Lai liao~😂
I think the government IS at fault, though not the main culprit. Because I believe they would have known this kind of industry existed for so many years and did nothing effective to stop it. I mean these KTV can send recruitment msgs and advertisements online how can the govt not know. They KNOW but did nothing or at least not taking big movement. Singapore is a very small society one piece of shit can easily affect the entire society. So strict regulations must be implemented.
Also, the demander and supplier who keeps this shit going on are the most reprehensible culprits. Some people might say "what's wrong with prostituting, they also working hard to earn a living wah". This is wrong. Because your body and your dignity is not something that can be quantified with money.
I like how one is android cult and the other is ios cult
Im very lucky i never go KTV.
A bit peculiarly hilarious how both nyona converse in English Singapore style. Irritatingly exhausting to listen though..lawak la ahso
wad about bus and mrt? no social distancing
Buy some dolls and a ktv sound set. Problem solve
2000 is too expensive lol..
When some men are excited no price is too high 😉👅
Excruciatingly painful to listen to both ahso
The KTV, hostesses and patrons are all equally to be blamed. All for the same reason, breeching the social distancing rules and restrictions. Simple as that. I don't care if the KTV has need to earn money or the hostesses are pitiful, or the men are cheating. Those are all personal problems that should be addressed differently, through different channels like applying for relief grant or getting counseling for marriage or whatnot. I find it appalling that people are trying to shift the blame to these irrelevant problems or even justify it. The fact remains that all parties concerned broke the law and breeched the social distancing rules which is the root of the problem, they should all be punished for that. Simi ideas to make ktv fun or they could have kept people in one room, simi you'd do the same if you also illegally trying to work and earn money overseas, simi single is okay or married then cannot. If you are visiting or working in these illegally operated ktvs, you are all at fault.
Irresponsible, supply and demand.
Should talk about the gym closures for us who worked real hard for the gyms and for competitors and lastly for people whole has to adapt crazily to the new demands anddddd people who lost their income over GYMMMMMMMMMMM CLOSURES
I think the government could have done better. If these normal ppl like thirsty sister can easily know what kind of settings the KTV are, then im sure the gov know that too .. considering sg government are some very smart ppl. i believe they already have a list of very high risk businesses setup in terms of covid. i wonder why they are still allowed to operate? if they are stll allowed then at the very least gov ask the to put cctv all over inside the establishment and ask them to report every night to ensure compliance. forget abt privacy. we are all using tracetogether alreadyto keep everyone save. so forget about privacy outside your home. .. so in short gov could hv done better
Hazmat lol 😂
I blame:
1. The gov, caz I rly don't believe they so stupid think such ktv is clean. I blame them for not sending the police raid frequent enough and go do regular spot check.
Caz I even saw a lot girls boldly walk around tanglin area hooking up on guys. So obvious. Means the police nv do enough wah. They shld have the mindset that ktv might not abide n do illegal activities etc. So shld do regular check. I know if police keep come maybe will ruin biz but can at least send some plainclothes police do more checks w/o affecting their business n the patrons mood?
2. I blame the ktv bosses, and i think shld shame the people who go and put there out in the news, tje bosses and patrons. But they dw too. Then why the satay guy kena exposed big big on news, is not fair. Does it got big shots ppl don't dare exposed but hawker see him no up so exposed. The new make it so explicit. Anyone work in that hawker or always go there also know exactly who liao right. So if want exposed, expose everyone. Who tell them cheat on their partners, and ktv bosses earn this kind of no conscience money.
In general, Men have 2 heads..... "One BIG Head" and "One SMALL Head" , they tends to use their SMALL Head to think. For the KTV clusters, I'm very sure they use their Small Head to think
Its more of One is with Brain and the other does not
tts not on thUrsdAy 🤤🤤
Maximum profit in the shortest time that is why all cramp in the room.
I blame the old guys cos if they didn't have the urge to go then even if is there, they also won't go what? Cos of the urge that's why. Is not an excuse for them? Everyone have urge also??
Durian n mangosteen
The microphones are different, if you know what i mean.... - Yeolo
Definitely not the type of microphones we’re using 🤭🤭
@@TheThirstySisters not forgetting the food they eating only dim sum..
1) char Siew bao
2) Siew Mai
3) lor mai gaiiiiiiii
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ktv have been around for so long already. Responsible shld of course be the owner. But e G shouldn't allow it to be turn into a bistro without supervision. G shld know what ktv mean when ey hv so much Intel on e ground.
13:07 Nina be snitching.
Then is some countries stoned to DEATH
As i know most of the female partners they know their male partner do goes to KTV ,as saying all cat goes for fish , they just pretend not knowing does not want to bring out the matter as long as the guy still love them and the family. As their female partner knowly that they will not do what the KTV girls can and will do those "exciting Activities " with them .Don't get me wrong i am still single and do not patronise KTV just know it when chit chat with friends ,
well I hope MOH would be descreet as not to mention the "cluster" in the sms when informing someone to take the test .....ultimately..what matter most is to take the test and not the "cluster"
By the way this country is most wealthy compared to other asean countries. So all want to come here to make all types of money.
This nightclub KTV is for chi ko pek mah. you open night club ktv sure kena covid 19. this ktv call 夜总会 and not ktv. The hostress are legal but temporary pass are not legal. Sex is very normal bc that is the purpose of going there. This place is there for many years and is legal .
Eh....how to have safe measures when SEX is the main thing inside a KTV. How to pivot or improvise?...also how to help MEN with needs...🤣🤣🤣
And our current wave is a result of chee ko peks. While the rest of us take a step back from our slight progress... 👿
very shallow..