hi .. thanks for the video .... i have c3 diluc ... can u tell me please the best normal attack skill rotation for diluc so i can vape or melt most of his attacks? when i use him with furina and especially with xingqui they end up being the ones to trigger vape not diluc
Make sure Enemy are affected by Hydro before you start your Combo with Diluc. Xingqiu and Furina shouldn't have trouble keeping with Diluc Pyro Application this way. Normal attack twice between Elemental Skill (N2EN2EN2E) is the most reliable and consistent Combo for Diluc in both Teams, but for Melt it varies between which Support and setup you are using.
@@cavernman4739 Yes, it would be better. Although it was probably necessary to put 20 seconds on this constellation. Otherwise, Diluс always gets this bonus.
Wow, the way you dealt with breaking the shields and with this lil dendro guy is amazing, smooth af. I hate you man 😂 also since I pulled Arlecchino I enjoy using Diluc somehow less xd I tried double hydro XQ, Yelan, Bennett with both of them first side - Diluc with proper build and (to nerf) Arle I gave her R5 white tassel lvl freaking 1. Still did faster clear than with Diluc. I guess I am really trash Diluc player 😂😂😂
I love freeze comp so much! I had all of them except Kokomi, i thought i could use Furina but controlling their hp is so hard. And their energy for rotation is a lot harder than i thought when i build this team, how could u handle their energy so easily 😢?!
This team specifically doesn't have much energy requirement since Kazuha and Kokomi doesn't need Q every rotation & Ayaka and Shenhe can generate enough particle to get their Q back with good rotation. Try adding Favonious on Kazuha or Shenhe to help smoothen the Energy, or do a more optimized rotation (Shenhe E tap Q > Kazuha E > Kokomi / Furina > Ayaka E Q > Kazuha E > Shenhe E Tap > Ayaka E + NA CA until Shenhe CD reset > Repeat) Alternatively use Shenhe E Hold and Pause trick if the chamber is about to finish when you are swapping to Shenhe during Ayaka Q to make sure Ayaka and Shenhe have enough energy to start rotation immediately on the next Chamber.
@@kross4237 Not really. Furina is good Hydro Enabler, sub DPS and buffer for Diluc, but nothing that makes him broken. Xianyun did fix Diluc though IMHO
@@jafaroffmusic7876you can say that to all those players repeating the same sentence though rather than "fix" i'd say xianyun is a steroid for diluc (or anyone + c6 bennett) considering he was fine as is even prior to furina and yelan and xianyun simply skyrocket his potential from his high plunge %
Tried the diluc team a bunch of times and as comfy as it is, it's not alot of dmg without elegy on yelan. Substituting with furina is the way since she's an alternative atk buffer. I have yet to try with zhongli + shenhe's weapon though, but I highly doubt it can compare to either of these teams
Actually, Elegy is kinda minor for this particular Team, it only adds 8~10k Vape upgrade, less than 2k non reaction, so the total increase is less than 100k in one rotation if we exclude Bennett Q. Though by alternative of Atk buffer you are referring to ToM Furina or Furina as Bennett replacement? Assume the former, It'd be better to just give it to Zhongli and let Bennett hold instructor instead or give Zhongli NO as substitute which is ultimately better since the 20% Atk increase is so minor it doesn't worth trading Furina's own DPS tbh, unless your intention was to turn it to a Hypercarry Diluc.
@@cavernman4739 Not sure why my dmg is so low then. Maybe I'll try out some more builds. By furina I was talking about her buffs alone. C0 yelan without elegy is horrible without vape. Zhongli will still be using ToM either way, but yelan compared to furina really sucks from my experience
@@irsyadzakaria8574 Indeed C0 Yelan is kinda meh compared to C0 Furina as support, and has issue with Energy if we run Her full SubDPS (which is Her strong point) without C1. Try adding Instructor if you haven't already, the buff is very apparent for this Team that lacks any form of EM Buff. Tbh I actually find ToM Zhongli to be a bottleneck than anything since His E can occasionally steal Hydro Aura, even with C2 Yelan, this often happen, and if we move His pillars ToM wouldn't proc. Which is why I alwaya opted with Instructor and use Him Last so Instructor can last for Diluc's Entire field time and just better than ToM mere 20% Atk Buff.
If you can properly manage His setup, C2R1 Kazuha is a HUGE upgrade not only for Diluc but Team as a whole, especially for Yelan, XQ, Kaeya, Rosaria and Dragonstrike. C2 Kazuha is practically Him and C6 Sucrose in one package. And FN is basically a free 20% DPS increase for Diluc because He can utilize all of FN Buff. Even better if you have Redhorn since the their passive synergy extremely well.
i'd say just get fn instead c2 kazuha though broken requires extreme min maxing to fully benefit diluc otherwise only his support that can taste the extra 200em for how usually his rotation work most of the time, diluc will only benefit c2kazuha through nuke than full combo so you are not upgrading diluc, but his support
To think Diluc can still that insanely strong without Kazuha or TtoDS Sucrose, is honestly surprising. Makes me wonder if VV Setup is even needed if He can can still do this well without
For the most part, no tbh. Diluc is mostly favorable used on ST or those with minor CC requirement so Kazuha & Sucrose generally there for their Buffs Granted if simply Clear is the sole goal, would be different story if your goal is to speedrun, need the extra DPS from VV or typical Genshin Big Number Showcase.
@@cavernman4739Indeed, mostly I also run Diluc on Boss chambers so i don't particularly need grouper. Looks like I'll be getting Zhongli on His next rerun for convenience sake. Would you also recommend Unforged?
@@nonuteverydayDefinitely no, it's only a minor if not any upgrade conpared to rest of 5 Stars. But yeah, kinda make noticable difference when compared to 4 Stars.
can you do one run with f2p diluc vape (bennett, sucrose, xq) with no one holding 5* weapons next? really surprising diluc can do this well so i'm curious how f2p investment would compare to low spender comfy diluc team
Wow your em sands is so amazing, i wonder if diluc using claymore with atk℅ substat like wgs or the unforged is em sands better than atk sands if for example both have the same substat?
EM is usually better but won't make much different than Atk Sand DPS wise. What decide which sand is better is how you usually play him and which support or team he is using. If you run Sucrose or other good EM Buffer, Atk Sand is generally better. If you run Kazuha, EM Sand is generally Better. This only apply regardless of what Diluc is holding and if He isn't using 4pc GD.
can you try the C6 Diluc trick? The trick is that you do a normal attack but before the attack hit you cancel it with you skill so in final you will hit 3 skills and his last normal attack and all will melt/vape.. My ENG is **** but I'm trying xD i hope you got it 😅 It's like canceling the first 3 normal attacks by the skills then hit with the fourth normal attack..
The ICD will remain the same even when you cancel Diluc's NA. if anything, you'd be wasting DPS by cancelling the NAs because in the end you'd still only able to Melt/Vape 2 of His Final NA. Instead, do N1EN2EN1 > Dash N3EN1 If you want to Melt / Vape both of Diluc Final NA on top of getting 1 extra Vape / Melt from N3 before final E and final NA.
Wait running Zhongli on instructor is mega brain.
Instructor esta infravalorado fr
Just when I asked you about Diluc Benny ZL Hydro team - there you are doing it :D thanks!
I need C6 Diluc real bad lol. Look so fun
Hope you can get your hand on C6 Diluc soon!
Ah yes, the classic Diluc vape. Needing Zhongli cuz i couldn't dodge lmao.
You just remind me the reason why I pulled Him lol
hi .. thanks for the video .... i have c3 diluc ... can u tell me please the best normal attack skill rotation for diluc so i can vape or melt most of his attacks? when i use him with furina and especially with xingqui they end up being the ones to trigger vape not diluc
Make sure Enemy are affected by Hydro before you start your Combo with Diluc.
Xingqiu and Furina shouldn't have trouble keeping with Diluc Pyro Application this way.
Normal attack twice between Elemental Skill (N2EN2EN2E) is the most reliable and consistent Combo for Diluc in both Teams, but for Melt it varies between which Support and setup you are using.
If only C4 worked like this: after 10 seconds, Diluc would receive an effect that increases the damage of all elemental skill strikes by 40%.
Yeah, would be better than needing to wait 2 seconds to obtain the buff.
@@cavernman4739 Yes, it would be better. Although it was probably necessary to put 20 seconds on this constellation. Otherwise, Diluс always gets this bonus.
Wow, the way you dealt with breaking the shields and with this lil dendro guy is amazing, smooth af. I hate you man 😂 also since I pulled Arlecchino I enjoy using Diluc somehow less xd I tried double hydro XQ, Yelan, Bennett with both of them first side - Diluc with proper build and (to nerf) Arle I gave her R5 white tassel lvl freaking 1. Still did faster clear than with Diluc. I guess I am really trash Diluc player 😂😂😂
Nah you are not, Arlenchino is just a league of her own after all lol
I had brain fart and thought it was gonna be Diluc CA run because you use to include Zhongli when you do it in the past
That was the plan.
Though someone asked me to do non VV Diluc run so here we are.
I love freeze comp so much! I had all of them except Kokomi, i thought i could use Furina but controlling their hp is so hard. And their energy for rotation is a lot harder than i thought when i build this team, how could u handle their energy so easily 😢?!
This team specifically doesn't have much energy requirement since Kazuha and Kokomi doesn't need Q every rotation & Ayaka and Shenhe can generate enough particle to get their Q back with good rotation.
Try adding Favonious on Kazuha or Shenhe to help smoothen the Energy, or do a more optimized rotation (Shenhe E tap Q > Kazuha E > Kokomi / Furina > Ayaka E Q > Kazuha E > Shenhe E Tap > Ayaka E + NA CA until Shenhe CD reset > Repeat)
Alternatively use Shenhe E Hold and Pause trick if the chamber is about to finish when you are swapping to Shenhe during Ayaka Q to make sure Ayaka and Shenhe have enough energy to start rotation immediately on the next Chamber.
@@cavernman4739 Thanks for your guide. So smooth combo and optimized rotation are very important in this comp, i got it! 😮
thats cool
Diluc is only good with Xianyun and Kazuha / C6 Sucrose!
Cavernman: *Hold my Unforged*
and furina.
i have seen people mentioning furina "fix" diluc like she did to dehya lol
@@kross4237 Not really. Furina is good Hydro Enabler, sub DPS and buffer for Diluc, but nothing that makes him broken.
Xianyun did fix Diluc though IMHO
@@jafaroffmusic7876you can say that to all those players repeating the same sentence
though rather than "fix" i'd say xianyun is a steroid for diluc (or anyone + c6 bennett) considering he was fine as is even prior to furina and yelan and xianyun simply skyrocket his potential from his high plunge %
@@kross4237He was fine even prior to Kazuha which used to directly get compared to International, the arguably best team for Bennett + Kazuha.
This comment made my day ty.
Thanks a lot! Gotta get some references from this one
My pleasure, hope it could help!
Tried the diluc team a bunch of times and as comfy as it is, it's not alot of dmg without elegy on yelan. Substituting with furina is the way since she's an alternative atk buffer. I have yet to try with zhongli + shenhe's weapon though, but I highly doubt it can compare to either of these teams
Actually, Elegy is kinda minor for this particular Team, it only adds 8~10k Vape upgrade, less than 2k non reaction, so the total increase is less than 100k in one rotation if we exclude Bennett Q.
Though by alternative of Atk buffer you are referring to ToM Furina or Furina as Bennett replacement?
Assume the former, It'd be better to just give it to Zhongli and let Bennett hold instructor instead or give Zhongli NO as substitute which is ultimately better since the 20% Atk increase is so minor it doesn't worth trading Furina's own DPS tbh, unless your intention was to turn it to a Hypercarry Diluc.
@@cavernman4739 Not sure why my dmg is so low then. Maybe I'll try out some more builds.
By furina I was talking about her buffs alone. C0 yelan without elegy is horrible without vape. Zhongli will still be using ToM either way, but yelan compared to furina really sucks from my experience
@@irsyadzakaria8574 Indeed C0 Yelan is kinda meh compared to C0 Furina as support, and has issue with Energy if we run Her full SubDPS (which is Her strong point) without C1.
Try adding Instructor if you haven't already, the buff is very apparent for this Team that lacks any form of EM Buff.
Tbh I actually find ToM Zhongli to be a bottleneck than anything since His E can occasionally steal Hydro Aura, even with C2 Yelan, this often happen, and if we move His pillars ToM wouldn't proc.
Which is why I alwaya opted with Instructor and use Him Last so Instructor can last for Diluc's Entire field time and just better than ToM mere 20% Atk Buff.
that kenki fight was so clean
What do you think of C2 for Kazuha and Freedom Sworn for Diluc teams? I wonder if I should invest into that considering I want to improve my Diluc
If you can properly manage His setup, C2R1 Kazuha is a HUGE upgrade not only for Diluc but Team as a whole, especially for Yelan, XQ, Kaeya, Rosaria and Dragonstrike.
C2 Kazuha is practically Him and C6 Sucrose in one package.
And FN is basically a free 20% DPS increase for Diluc because He can utilize all of FN Buff. Even better if you have Redhorn since the their passive synergy extremely well.
i'd say just get fn instead
c2 kazuha though broken requires extreme min maxing to fully benefit diluc otherwise only his support that can taste the extra 200em for how usually his rotation work
most of the time, diluc will only benefit c2kazuha through nuke than full combo
so you are not upgrading diluc, but his support
To think Diluc can still that insanely strong without Kazuha or TtoDS Sucrose, is honestly surprising.
Makes me wonder if VV Setup is even needed if He can can still do this well without
For the most part, no tbh.
Diluc is mostly favorable used on ST or those with minor CC requirement so Kazuha & Sucrose generally there for their Buffs
Granted if simply Clear is the sole goal, would be different story if your goal is to speedrun, need the extra DPS from VV or typical Genshin Big Number Showcase.
@@cavernman4739Indeed, mostly I also run Diluc on Boss chambers so i don't particularly need grouper.
Looks like I'll be getting Zhongli on His next rerun for convenience sake.
Would you also recommend Unforged?
@@nonuteverydayDefinitely no, it's only a minor if not any upgrade conpared to rest of 5 Stars.
But yeah, kinda make noticable difference when compared to 4 Stars.
can you do one run with f2p diluc vape (bennett, sucrose, xq) with no one holding 5* weapons next?
really surprising diluc can do this well so i'm curious how f2p investment would compare to low spender comfy diluc team
Sure, I'll see what I can do.
Wow your em sands is so amazing, i wonder if diluc using claymore with atk℅ substat like wgs or the unforged is em sands better than atk sands if for example both have the same substat?
EM is usually better but won't make much different than Atk Sand DPS wise.
What decide which sand is better is how you usually play him and which support or team he is using.
If you run Sucrose or other good EM Buffer, Atk Sand is generally better.
If you run Kazuha, EM Sand is generally Better.
This only apply regardless of what Diluc is holding and if He isn't using 4pc GD.
@@cavernman4739 i see, thank you then😁
can you try the C6 Diluc trick?
The trick is that you do a normal attack but before the attack hit you cancel it with you skill so in final you will hit 3 skills and his last normal attack and all will melt/vape.. My ENG is **** but I'm trying xD i hope you got it 😅
It's like canceling the first 3 normal attacks by the skills then hit with the fourth normal attack..
The ICD will remain the same even when you cancel Diluc's NA.
if anything, you'd be wasting DPS by cancelling the NAs because in the end you'd still only able to Melt/Vape 2 of His Final NA.
Instead, do N1EN2EN1 > Dash N3EN1
If you want to Melt / Vape both of Diluc Final NA on top of getting 1 extra Vape / Melt from N3 before final E and final NA.
Do u play masterduel?
Not anymore.
How can my dulic hit this hard
Sell your soul the the Devils.