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could you do biology degree ranking please Shane? I love your videos . I have also been bummed out tho because none of your videos have mentioned biotechnology (as engineering degree). But again, love your videos!
I hate the idea that art majors and art universities are so insanely expensive if you want a high level education but you aren't guaranteed an annual salary even close to the tuition you ended up paying. It's insane
Yeah the things is, usually you’re going to go there to find what art you’re going to pursue in. If you found one like painting or animating, it’s better to just develop your own skill on your own or people on the internet( there plenty of artist to go there just and plenty of online classes which plenty of them are free, just look for the right video or see their art). And develop online skill there and make art friends that can also help you. Success is dependent on how much you advertise or having to go to companies and studios( in which most of them will look at your portfolio, and degree usually don’t matter) or make your own collaboration studio( which can be just your art friends). If you’re taking animation the studio is optional and online can be possible.
@@YEDxFILMS when it comes to art it pretty much is since with a fair few art related careers you present a portfolio of your work But with other fields it’s a rlly bad idea
My sister got a bachelors of fine arts in painting she then went on to get a masters degree in counseling and started doing art therapy. She also wrote a two best-selling books for kids, and now does speaking engagements all over the country. Last year she made over $800,000 in income. So I guess her art degree really payed off.
LoL even the best artists died before got famous. Picasso became famous and his artwork became expensive after he was dead. Unless you got a full scholarship, FAFSA (which covers housing), grants. Then yes go for it this way you don't end up in debt. A college grant will help too
When you get an art degree remember that you are getting the degree for the skills and mentorship and you are essentially an ENTREPRENEUR. You can be very successful but the real problem is a lot of creative people are not good business people and don't know how to sell their talent. If you don't want to be an entrepreneur and want a regular 9 to 5 job where you just get a paycheck, get a degree in something more generic and practical
That's very true. Many art students I know failed to see the importance of finding a marketable niche. And many also lack the drive to be an entrepreneur. I hesitate to say it has to do with a lack of "talent," because any art school grad should have at least a few tricks up their sleeve that can be brought to market.
i was going to major in fine art or illustration until i realized that was a bit silly (the art school i had in mind would have sent me into 40k debt minimum) so i settled for graphic design at my (much cheaper) state school with hopefully no debt. not exactly what i had in mind but i still like it, and it actually has demand and the possibility of a stable position. maybe not the most valuable degree in the world, but we can't all be brain surgeons or engineers. i'd rather make a decent living doing what i enjoy every day than make six figures doing something i hate every day. my backup plan is tattooing, so i'm continuing to build my illustration skills on the side.
I agree. I only know a select few people who make and sell their artistic creations for a living and none of them have an art degree. It’s more of a personal passion that works because they are incredible artists. It’s seems the people who go to college to get an art degree end up doing some random shit instead of what their degree is in. Seems like a giant waste of money. My first year of college I took some art classes that left me unfulfilled and angry as I was also working full time to pay for the classes.
So conclusion: Most Art degrees ARENT actually “useless” just that it’ll be harder to find a relevant job and get a stable salary off of them. Oh and debt. Also as much as Dance is undercut in this video I will say that in my experience, there IS potential to make a living out of being a dancer/teacher/choreographer/studio owner. Though the dancers that book the most and teach at the major dance conventions and make the “most” money out of dance.... yeah they don’t have dance degrees. MAJOR ETA: BUT with COVID, COVID has widely wiped out the dance, acting, and theatre industries. Knowing this would you suggest for incoming college kids to major in these degrees now or would you steer them away?
I’m swayed towards doing an art degree for gaming, COVID shouldn’t affect it much because a lot of jobs in the art industry you can work from home as long as you have a good enough computer and drawing tablet, etc etc.
as a professional artist for 10 years doing graphic design /animation... I will say it is definitely possible to live a decent life doing art... but you need to learn and have technical skills .. and it won't be easy to find jobs, because every other artist is trying to get the same job and this field is very neitch .... I had jobs where I made 14 an hour starting out and 27 an hour in my later career..now I plan my next job to make 50 an hour or 100k a year.... my advice is to learn more technical skills ... learn the stuff that most artists doesn't like or is scared to get into like...Development /programming-computer science, video editing, 3d modeling /animation, UI/UX Design,Cad Etc.. I know this is not art ... but if you have technical abilities it will help you land a higher-paying art job in the tech world... it's why I got into programming... look I wanted to make animations on tv , or anime, etc but does job only like 5-10% of the artist make it into that career path .... and it's not as glamours as it may seem a lot of OVERTIME.... a lot of companies work their artist and animators like work mules etc especially in japan. The same thing can be said for the Video game industry where animators, artists 3d modeling, etc all work crazy hours ... I feel like the software industry or commercial industry is the best place for a modern digital artist these days.. find out more on fine art and illustration /cartoon training on my youtube @midorisArtpage and mrmidori85 on tik tok, sorry no technically training there
@@ShaneHummus yes becuase as a digital artist in modern times.. you start off as a jr designer... and usually to become a senior designer you need 5+ years of experience.. while you dont need a degree to accomplish this , if you want to further advance your career as a art director or creative director often times you need 5+-10 years of experience plus a formal art degree... not all companies ask for one but alot do have it as a requirement ..... and i'm all about options so if the degree gives me options than its worth it in the end.. But the portfolio is the key factor
@@levi9922 There are not many degree's that are focused and just in 3d modeling , when it comes to 3d its usually bundled with another area of focus , like animation .. for example my major was like a jack of all trades major or dual major... the title is 3d computer animation & interactive media... meaning i studied 3d modeling, 3d animation, 2d animation, graphic design and web design... with some video editing in there... the majority of work was in 3d... but we learned everything else also... while in school i learned that i didn't like 3d as much,,,,,, yeah it was fun the modeling and animation ... but towards the end i found myself liking 2d web animation more or graphic design.. that the best part of a dual major you get to see what you like the most. the problem with dual majors is you really don't get enough time to focus on what you like the most becuase you have to do everything in a short amount of time... the good thing is , that with my degree i can get animation jobs 3d jobs and graphic design jobs... graphic design jobs being more practical , now there are schools that just focus on 3d modeling but there are few of them.... most of the schools will teach you a general workflow of 3d animation so it will be , 3d modeling , texturing, animation, and rigging... all of these are so complicated that they can be their own majors and there are their own position in the workplace.. my advice is find a major that teaches you all 4 and that allows you to focus on 3d modeling for your thesis project.. that way, your strongest work will be 3d modeling ,,,,, but you learned how to do the other stuff in 3d so if you can't find a job doing 3d modeling then maybe you can be a animator or a texture person etc.. the problem with my major is that they wanted us to create a thesis project, which was suppose to be a short story in 3d.. we only had 1 semester to learn everything and the second semester to learn some more while the last 8 weeks working on the project.. which is not enough time to do anything great with 3d modeling , animation , rigging and texturing ... my degree program is a 4 year but you can transfer form another 2 year school etc which is not the best thing to do in 3d world.....some degree's allow you too have a thesis thats just in modeling you need to find one like that but also learn the other things i mentioned ... becuase in the job market sometimes you will be asked to help out in other areas ...
@@msg360 Im in college right now My degree is is simillar to yours I think its called BMMA bacherlor in multi-media arts Im specializing in animation. Right now Im improving my drawing skills since im still kinda bad at it but Im getting better I feel it but Im also doing things writing on the side since I want to animate stories. Also video editing since some of my subjects makes us do vids I enjoy doing it and a bit of acting since I want to sound real when I practice lipsyncs on animation
If executed right I feel that art degrees can be worth it when combined with tech. UX/UI is on the rise along with ai design, animation, and digital graphics. Can’t complete tech without creatives to execute it correctly. (Loved the video).
You're absolutely right. Software engineers tend to be awful at design. They need people with an artistic eye and creativity to guide them, otherwise they'd be lost. Most coders downplay the importance of UI/UX, but they're just wrong.
Helpful video. As someone who always struggled with math and who was only good in art and music class it was helpful to know that I’m not completely doomed. Thinking of majoring in graphic design with a minor in marketing or business, and being an artist/musician on the side.
You're probably not getting a theatre job with a minor. That's enough credits to take a few intro-to-theatre classes, but that's it. The good, steady jobs in theatre are in production, set design, stage management, directing, etc. A theatre minor does not prepare you for these jobs.
Is cyber security easy to learn I wanna get a job in coding but I don’t know if I would be able to understand and also want learn animation or just art
@@josemachina3996 cyber-security is really broad. What in cyber-security? Network security(firewalls, servers)? Incident response? Cloud security? Reverse engineering? There is a lot out there. Start by setting virtual machines and playing in a Linux environment, and try to break some stuff. Checkout Kali Linux there is a lot of good info. Its challenging but rewarding!!
If you get one of these degrees in undergrad because it’s your passion then that’s fine but make sure you have a good backup plan such as grad school or trade school in the event that it doesn’t work out. Also, don’t be delusional and think that something like a film degree is going to be your free pass to become the next Brad Pitt.
I was at one point trying for an illustration degree, but I quickly found that it would take all my life to pay the student loans if I graduated. So I decided that illustration and fine art and painting would only be hobbies and went with my other high school loves: math and physics. Thank you so much for the video!
Worth looking into STEM degrees or some type of Math Analysis type degrees which might interest you. Both can be applied in MANY fields. Art can definitely still be a fun Hobbie or side hustle to make money. I'm a Junior Mechanical Engineering student who does quite a bit of art on the side. Nothing wrong with it. 👍🏼
omgg same i here some people say it great and other have terrible luck only thing i can say is look into ux u don't need a degree for it specifically but grahphic design is one of the popular degrees to get and maybe take a boot camp or read a book about ux and set up a portfolio and ur set for entry level which can range from 60k-90k
I know this half a yr late but whatever. When you get to uni/college you need to network and talk to others like your peers and professors. You will make connections that will help you later in your prospective career (Graphic Design) like job opportunities, mentors/apprenticeship, etc.
There’s a newer degree called “arts management” or “arts administration” which I think is created to train people to work in art galleries or cultural institutions, i’d like to hear your opinion on that in terms of the ranking lol, do you think its worth it?
America’s crazy. Like here in Ireland yes you mightn’t have the best job but you can do what you love and make a living, without incredible student debt
Literally thank you so much, you basically saved me! I was so confused with everything and couldnt even choose a degree, but as soon as i heard you explain about industrial design i got so hyped up it immadiently became a dream.
3rd year ID student here! With a degree in ID you can go into so many different fields.I’ve learned to much from working in a woodshop to machine shops, Adobe programs, cad programs, 3D printing, creating soft goods, etc.
I will say, if you want to peruse architecture....and I can’t stress this enough, GET CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE!!! A lot of student now are realizing this and going into construction management and other roles which can double your salary in about 10 years if your good. A B.arch can help you in many industries like real estate development, construction, architecture, and other related fields. Also, get internships in both architecture and construction while networking with industry people at events and other social activities!!! Best of Luck!!
true. during my apprenticeship in architecture for a year, I learned a lot than the ones that I could get from office works drafting and designing. Though, there is nothing wrong with that but construction management helps a lot in familiarizing equipment, the process and the materials and it's quality. I got a lot of shit from my boss since I was still a rookie in the field but it was all worth it. He was not a toxic boss though, he was sorta like Gordon Ramsey but in Architecture. Lol
yo agree kelvin sounds like Kevin, easy points there. Plus Celsius and Fahrenheit are hard to spell and pronounce. And don’t even get me started on how the USA uses Fahrenheit instead of Celsius. Kelvin >Celsius > Fahrenheit
Cost is definitely THE MOST important thing to consider, especially if, as you mentioned, debt hinders future opportunities. But sometimes the extra expense will pay off depending on the school/program itself (and your skill level I guess). Many graduates are recruited from high caliber arts schools/programs. I went to a HS and college where we had access to private auditions with companies and agencies as well as work/performance opportunities as part of our training. The same resume-building opportunities are not the same if you're trying to make it on your own, especially in concert dance.
One thing you are leaving out. It’s not the degree that counts. It’s the connections you make while in school that you would not have made on your own. Most school have direct access to industry recruiters.
well, I guess its time for me to animate a video saying "I'm sorry for following my heart" to my mum who warned me that picking an art degree is like having the Grimm Reaper walking next to you
@@ahahahahhahaha192 i ended up studying graphic design as its a more broad course for artsy kiddos. Personally, i dont like it very much, who knew people cared about the exact spacing measurement in between lines of text on magazines. The small bit of animation studies that i did i actually found the most enjoyable so i think that animation would be fun if you plan on doing it as a degree but I heard the animation industry isnt very well-paid from where i live (australia) though and it isnt very sought for. by all means, if you like animation, do it, people will hire especially if you have the passion and dedication for it
@@zenzenebrave im on my final year of my graphic design course. i so wish i picked animation cause goddamn i hate Adobe InDesign and the Helvetica font with a passion
@@biktolia_7223 but guess 😆 what u did it , that's some nerve of steel for doing it, just keep moving forward 😆🤭 And maybe you'll like it the more u know it hshahshhs ☺️
I met a lot of actors or wannabe actors in catering/restaurant. It became so common that the supervisors and management staff kept telling us : "We are working this is not the time to hand out your acting/business cards or chatting with directors to land a gig, they are here to have fun and relax not for work" "Please act with a smile and treat this event as if you are acting and putting on a show smiling, never frown and take a hit if a guest is rude to you just let it go and kill them with kindness" "This is your time to shine" It really got to the point
One thing about Graphic Design. if you're working In-House, or in angency, YOU HAVE NO CREATIVE CONTROL MOST OF THE TIME. There's either lots of intervene by clients / employers, or your art director / head of team. There are some places that do offer some sort of creative freedom. but most doesn't. Meaning what ever shit happens, you'll almost always taking the blame. If you're planning going into the graphic design industry, freelancing is the better option here. At least you can set your own terms, & you can directly communicate with your clients
Graphic design and interior design higher than architecture??? Shouldn't it be S tier alongside industrial design or at least A tier? I think it's important enough because it also involves a fair overlap with civil engineering and urban planning. Plus, any decent-sized house, building or related project/structure has had an architect involved. Love your vids nonetheless 🙌 helped me a lot with deciding!
Good Concept artists earn tons of money, thats a good career but also one of the hardest. You can earn a lot of money and have fun at work as an artist as long as you put the time and effort to learn how to draw well to be able to turn objects in space and if you learn how to solve design problems with your drawing skills. Also, add 3D skills such as modelling and sculpting and you automatically become a high value professional for the entertainment industry and more. Ive known concept artists that earn around 500 k a year working for the film and game industry. others that earn a lot as well working as weapon designers, vehicle designers and much more. A good artist is not someone who smokes weed and have random ideas. A good artist is someone who can solve problems and communicate them with clear and grounded ideas with a visual language to help industries create new physical or digital products. No artists means no films, no games, no vehicles, no planes, no buildings, no machines for water treatment, no machines for medical purposes, etc. Its all about going for the hardest skills to develop and working hard and smart to acquire those skills. Thats what makes an artist become valuable in many industries and be able to earn pretty good money in the process.
I think graphic design has a wider variety of options, while industrial design feels like it’s too specified to the point your might not have as many options to work in something else
For all those haters out there, this guy actually makes some pretty accurate statistics. Honestly, hands down agree with the degrees on the F are actually just garbage.
When I was young I always wanted to draw cartoons, and I thought animation would be cool to work in. But the fact that many art schools are for profit spells a huge gamble for debt. I found out you don’t technically need an art degree in animation (although for some people they want to if they want a structured routine and networking opportunities in school). There are some online courses like Animation Mentor that can help students learn how to get into the industry.
as an Visual Communicatio Design aka Graphic Design major. we taugh: print production. 2d and 3d form in motion. 3 levels of typography, 2 levels of photography, 2 lvls of UX/UI, and all other class for degree which is "Bachelors Degree of Fine Arts". So we can major in anything after undergrad
I'm in marketing communications as a content writer. Our company has offices in Houston and India. I write the content and the graphic designers do layout. The graphic designers are in India. I can definitely relate to this video.
I received my Adobe Certification in high school and took Graphic Design for four years eventually reaching the most advanced class they had. I was thinking of going with a degree in Animation or New Media. That way i’ll have a bunch of skills, right? What do you guys think?
Hi Shane. I have a video suggestion for you. Can you make a list of the top best countries to study abroad? This can help some people who are looking for high quality education to see and decide on the other countries available apart from the USA. Thank you in advance!
I’m kind of confused because it seems like you don’t actually know what a music degree is or does. Not many people get a degree in just music. It’s Music Performance with a specific instrument focus, or Music Technology, or Music Theory, Music Composition, or Music Education, or Music History. Music performance majors go on to join orchestras, jazz ensembles, or military bands. And yes, most people in these groups have music performance degrees. Have you heard of Juilliard? The University of North Texas? Why are you putting B-roll of people playing guitar hero on the music degree?
Something a lot of people don't know about graphic design is that it isn't just the designing part that's our job, we have to write creative briefs and design branding projects to give a flow of what we want and could need, we have to manage time and deal with the hassle of other people not doing their job and putting us into a heavy crunch period. Graphic Design is writing, and managing a timeline and then being forced into a 2 week crunch for a project that would take a month and a half.
I was studying graphic design but left the course as I felt art was my passion and I didn't want to turn it into a profession. If you're talented and passionate, I believe most of these skills can be gained outside of a traditional course. It's all about honing your craft in your spare time.
Getting a degree in animation at a public school with a pretty good art program. You don't need a degree to get into the industry (unless you're going into teaching), so a public school is good enough to make projects for a portfolio and have some networking, especially if the school is so close to LA. And it's easy to pay off the expenses so there is 0 debt. Boom, everyone is happy. Also could you do History/Social Studies related degrees if you haven't already?
Some of these I can from the skills that I acquire as a civil & arch engineer, i.e. interior design, graphics design, illustration and even industrial design
As a Graphic Design major, you don't just learn to make pretty art with Photoshop; you also learn advertising, copywriting, marketing and a little bit of UX/UI Design. Well....Atleast in my country. It probably depends on the college and the individual.
as an Visual Communicatio Design aka Graphic Design major. we taugh: print production. 2d and 3d form in motion. 3 levels of typography, 2 levels of photography, 2 lvls of UX/UI, and all other class for degree which is "Bachelors Degree of Fine Arts". So we can major in anything after undergrad
i like how im going into Industrial Design before watching this video, though im still not quite sure this is what i want to do i believe want > stats but i see why this tierlist is useful for some people
Quick correction about architecture: there is a difference between a bachelor of science/art, with a major in architecture, and a B.Arch. the first, only takes 4 years and if you want your license, you have to get a masters. The second, typically takes 5 years but you will be eligible to take your licensing exams. Take it from some one who thought she would do fine with just an associates in arch. Its about as useful as a high school diploma.
Video idea: You give us your higher education journey, all the classes you took in undergrad and pharmacy school and what you wish you did and didn't do.
I make more than any of these at 21yrs old and a college dropout, and I only work 6 months out of the year. The other 6 months? Whatever I want to do, like take classes for minors for fun and rock climbing. College isn’t for everyone and honestly that’s ok
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could you do biology degree ranking please Shane? I love your videos . I have also been bummed out tho because none of your videos have mentioned biotechnology (as engineering degree). But again, love your videos!
Hi Shane.
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I hate the idea that art majors and art universities are so insanely expensive if you want a high level education but you aren't guaranteed an annual salary even close to the tuition you ended up paying. It's insane
Yeah the things is, usually you’re going to go there to find what art you’re going to pursue in. If you found one like painting or animating, it’s better to just develop your own skill on your own or people on the internet( there plenty of artist to go there just and plenty of online classes which plenty of them are free, just look for the right video or see their art). And develop online skill there and make art friends that can also help you.
Success is dependent on how much you advertise or having to go to companies and studios( in which most of them will look at your portfolio, and degree usually don’t matter) or make your own collaboration studio( which can be just your art friends).
If you’re taking animation the studio is optional and online can be possible.
happens in many other fields too unfortunately...social work, etc
@@user-vs3gc4cn3t Unfortunately, it’s statistically not better to do it on your own.
@@YEDxFILMS when it comes to art it pretty much is since with a fair few art related careers you present a portfolio of your work
But with other fields it’s a rlly bad idea
They really do be scamming people 😔
My sister got a bachelors of fine arts in painting she then went on to get a masters degree in counseling and started doing art therapy. She also wrote a two best-selling books for kids, and now does speaking engagements all over the country. Last year she made over $800,000 in income. So I guess her art degree really payed off.
What's her name?
Omgg what is her name pls ??
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@RunOs3 sounds like bs they'll never give the name and theres no proof their related to her
@@yuyanglong225 there’s no proof of you doing anything. Move on.
Art majors after graduating college:
“I am never going to financially recover from this”
Good luck guys
LoL even the best artists died before got famous. Picasso became famous and his artwork became expensive after he was dead. Unless you got a full scholarship, FAFSA (which covers housing), grants. Then yes go for it this way you don't end up in debt. A college grant will help too
@@s45gr32 Picasso was ultra famous and super rich while he was alive. What are you talking about?
Jokes on you, I’m European
@@s45gr32 Dali was pretty much famous and that's way before his older years even. Heck, he bought his lover a bloody castle
My ex graduated with a theatre degree. She performs every day at the McDonalds drive thru.
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Wow that’s tough...😬
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Sometimes being an artist is not about finding a job, is about creating opportunities for yourself, similar to entrepreneurs.
exactly my thoughts.
the opportunity to work at a burger king
@@KicksPregnantWomen No shame on that, people do what they gotta do to survive. Besides, there a different kinds of artists.
these people don't get you cause they have loyal employer mindset and it's not a joke
@@kendrick4 exactly
When you get an art degree remember that you are getting the degree for the skills and mentorship and you are essentially an ENTREPRENEUR. You can be very successful but the real problem is a lot of creative people are not good business people and don't know how to sell their talent. If you don't want to be an entrepreneur and want a regular 9 to 5 job where you just get a paycheck, get a degree in something more generic and practical
That's very true. Many art students I know failed to see the importance of finding a marketable niche. And many also lack the drive to be an entrepreneur. I hesitate to say it has to do with a lack of "talent," because any art school grad should have at least a few tricks up their sleeve that can be brought to market.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this LA
So true
So, should you get some kind of Business Degree?
@@hatanohifumi4645if you get an art degree you should minor in business or entrepreneurship so you can learn how to start your own business.
i was going to major in fine art or illustration until i realized that was a bit silly (the art school i had in mind would have sent me into 40k debt minimum) so i settled for graphic design at my (much cheaper) state school with hopefully no debt. not exactly what i had in mind but i still like it, and it actually has demand and the possibility of a stable position. maybe not the most valuable degree in the world, but we can't all be brain surgeons or engineers. i'd rather make a decent living doing what i enjoy every day than make six figures doing something i hate every day.
my backup plan is tattooing, so i'm continuing to build my illustration skills on the side.
Good luck Kali. Thanks for sharing that
Update?
Did you end up tattooing?
Update?
Same. Im doing a BFA for probably graphic design and then be a tattoo artist afterwards.
art should be a trades type. youll do much better learning form an artist than in classes
James eliz true!
Right James
.... art teachers are usually artists.
art professors are usually highly trained artists.. you're paying for that mentor-ship and hands on experience. thats kinda the point..
I agree. I only know a select few people who make and sell their artistic creations for a living and none of them have an art degree. It’s more of a personal passion that works because they are incredible artists. It’s seems the people who go to college to get an art degree end up doing some random shit instead of what their degree is in. Seems like a giant waste of money. My first year of college I took some art classes that left me unfulfilled and angry as I was also working full time to pay for the classes.
-Animation/3d Animation (B teir)
-Architecture (B teir)
-Art History (F teir)
-Fashion Design (B teir)
-Film (C teir)
-Fine Arts (F teir)
-Graphic Designer (A teir)
-Illustration (D teir)
-Interior Design (A teir)
-Industrial Design (S teir)
-Music (D teir)
-Painting (F teir)
-Photography (F teir)
-Textile Design (C teir)
-Drama/ Theatre (D teir)
-Dance
SO MUCH EASIER THANK YOU
Thank you
tanks ....
Makes me super glad I made a smart choice going into Graphic Design 😎
Me just wanting to go into illustration in the future
So conclusion: Most Art degrees ARENT actually “useless” just that it’ll be harder to find a relevant job and get a stable salary off of them. Oh and debt. Also as much as Dance is undercut in this video I will say that in my experience, there IS potential to make a living out of being a dancer/teacher/choreographer/studio owner. Though the dancers that book the most and teach at the major dance conventions and make the “most” money out of dance.... yeah they don’t have dance degrees.
MAJOR ETA: BUT with COVID, COVID has widely wiped out the dance, acting, and theatre industries. Knowing this would you suggest for incoming college kids to major in these degrees now or would you steer them away?
COVID will be not be a problem in 4-5 years by the time they graduate.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
I’m swayed towards doing an art degree for gaming, COVID shouldn’t affect it much because a lot of jobs in the art industry you can work from home as long as you have a good enough computer and drawing tablet, etc etc.
a lot of art jobs are/can be work from home depending on the employer
as a professional artist for 10 years doing graphic design /animation... I will say it is definitely possible to live a decent life doing art... but you need to learn and have technical skills .. and it won't be easy to find jobs, because every other artist is trying to get the same job and this field is very neitch .... I had jobs where I made 14 an hour starting out and 27 an hour in my later career..now I plan my next job to make 50 an hour or 100k a year.... my advice is to learn more technical skills ... learn the stuff that most artists doesn't like or is scared to get into like...Development /programming-computer science, video editing, 3d modeling /animation, UI/UX Design,Cad Etc.. I know this is not art ... but if you have technical abilities it will help you land a higher-paying art job in the tech world...
it's why I got into programming... look I wanted to make animations on tv , or anime, etc but does job only like 5-10% of the artist make it into that career path .... and it's not as glamours as it may seem a lot of OVERTIME.... a lot of companies work their artist and animators like work mules etc especially in japan. The same thing can be said for the Video game industry where animators, artists 3d modeling, etc all work crazy hours ... I feel like the software industry or commercial industry is the best place for a modern digital artist these days.. find out more on fine art and illustration /cartoon training on my youtube @midorisArtpage and mrmidori85 on tik tok, sorry no technically training there
Great feedback Prince, would you say getting a degree is worth it or no? Cheers!
@@ShaneHummus yes becuase as a digital artist in modern times.. you start off as a jr designer... and usually to become a senior designer you need 5+ years of experience.. while you dont need a degree to accomplish this , if you want to further advance your career as a art director or creative director often times you need 5+-10 years of experience plus a formal art degree... not all companies ask for one but alot do have it as a requirement ..... and i'm all about options so if the degree gives me options than its worth it in the end.. But the portfolio is the key factor
@@msg360 so say, if i want to be a 3d modeler, what degree do i study?
@@levi9922 There are not many degree's that are focused and just in 3d modeling , when it comes to 3d its usually bundled with another area of focus , like animation .. for example my major was like a jack of all trades major or dual major... the title is 3d computer animation & interactive media... meaning i studied 3d modeling, 3d animation, 2d animation, graphic design and web design... with some video editing in there... the majority of work was in 3d... but we learned everything else also... while in school i learned that i didn't like 3d as much,,,,,, yeah it was fun the modeling and animation ... but towards the end i found myself liking 2d web animation more or graphic design.. that the best part of a dual major you get to see what you like the most. the problem with dual majors is you really don't get enough time to focus on what you like the most becuase you have to do everything in a short amount of time...
the good thing is , that with my degree i can get animation jobs 3d jobs and graphic design jobs... graphic design jobs being more practical , now there are schools that just focus on 3d modeling but there are few of them.... most of the schools will teach you a general workflow of 3d animation so it will be , 3d modeling , texturing, animation, and rigging... all of these are so complicated that they can be their own majors and there are their own position in the workplace.. my advice is find a major that teaches you all 4 and that allows you to focus on 3d modeling for your thesis project.. that way, your strongest work will be 3d modeling ,,,,, but you learned how to do the other stuff in 3d so if you can't find a job doing 3d modeling then maybe you can be a animator or a texture person etc..
the problem with my major is that they wanted us to create a thesis project, which was suppose to be a short story in 3d.. we only had 1 semester to learn everything and the second semester to learn some more while the last 8 weeks working on the project.. which is not enough time to do anything great with 3d modeling , animation , rigging and texturing ... my degree program is a 4 year but you can transfer form another 2 year school etc which is not the best thing to do in 3d world.....some degree's allow you too have a thesis thats just in modeling you need to find one like that but also learn the other things i mentioned ... becuase in the job market sometimes you will be asked to help out in other areas ...
@@msg360 Im in college right now My degree is is simillar to yours I think its called BMMA bacherlor in multi-media arts Im specializing in animation. Right now Im improving my drawing skills since im still kinda bad at it but Im getting better I feel it but Im also doing things writing on the side since I want to animate stories. Also video editing since some of my subjects makes us do vids I enjoy doing it and a bit of acting since I want to sound real when I practice lipsyncs on animation
If executed right I feel that art degrees can be worth it when combined with tech. UX/UI is on the rise along with ai design, animation, and digital graphics. Can’t complete tech without creatives to execute it correctly. (Loved the video).
Completely agree! Am on my way to getting a degree in Visual Communications but am angling my FYP towards UI/UX.
Noyumi Ao love it! Wish you luck on your journey
You're absolutely right. Software engineers tend to be awful at design. They need people with an artistic eye and creativity to guide them, otherwise they'd be lost. Most coders downplay the importance of UI/UX, but they're just wrong.
Yep, agreed
GOing to uni to do UI/UX
Tier list for degree programs that end with the word "studies"
Noted Naasik.. That kinda sounds interesting
@@ShaneHummus lol the only ranking i would know would be Gender Studies in F tier, I'd be surprised if it wasn't
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS the F tier would be half the list
@@jahhaj1020 There really is no point in Gender Studies whatsoever so yeah. They are studying something that doesn't exist. (2 genders only *cough*)
Easy! Gender Studies, Triple S
Really loving the college degree topics, keep it coming
More to come!
Helpful video. As someone who always struggled with math and who was only good in art and music class it was helpful to know that I’m not completely doomed. Thinking of majoring in graphic design with a minor in marketing or business, and being an artist/musician on the side.
Just learn math.
@@ActionAffection65 Then teach math better way.
This video was very informative! I would have loved to have this about all the other non-art degrees at the time I made my choice
I’m not even into art majors, but you make interesting videos
Thanks for watching Karen
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS Even though that’s her name, your reply could low-key feel like an insult read out of context.
same lol
Same
@@Mr.Sniffles Feel sorry for the cool Karens of the world now
you give better advice on degrees compared to my careers teacher. For that you have my respect ✊🏽
I do my best!
If you’re passionate about something artsy, minor in it instead. I’m studying cybersecurity and minoring in theatre
That works. Thanks for sharing that David
You're probably not getting a theatre job with a minor. That's enough credits to take a few intro-to-theatre classes, but that's it. The good, steady jobs in theatre are in production, set design, stage management, directing, etc. A theatre minor does not prepare you for these jobs.
Minor arts needs time to build while major in cyber security to work computer company
Is cyber security easy to learn I wanna get a job in coding but I don’t know if I would be able to understand and also want learn animation or just art
@@josemachina3996 cyber-security is really broad. What in cyber-security? Network security(firewalls, servers)? Incident response? Cloud security? Reverse engineering? There is a lot out there. Start by setting virtual machines and playing in a Linux environment, and try to break some stuff. Checkout Kali Linux there is a lot of good info. Its challenging but rewarding!!
You should do degrees with the word “studies”
That would be interesting. I might consider that
If you get one of these degrees in undergrad because it’s your passion then that’s fine but make sure you have a good backup plan such as grad school or trade school in the event that it doesn’t work out. Also, don’t be delusional and think that something like a film degree is going to be your free pass to become the next Brad Pitt.
Good input
Brad pitt is an actor and obviously a film degree would not get u to his level. No one thinks that, but u
It does land you as a server/banquet server. Wait that doesn't sound right nevermind
Art is only good as a side hustle.
Learn to hustle and trick people into buying your art
I was at one point trying for an illustration degree, but I quickly found that it would take all my life to pay the student loans if I graduated. So I decided that illustration and fine art and painting would only be hobbies and went with my other high school loves: math and physics.
Thank you so much for the video!
Worth looking into STEM degrees or some type of Math Analysis type degrees which might interest you. Both can be applied in MANY fields. Art can definitely still be a fun Hobbie or side hustle to make money. I'm a Junior Mechanical Engineering student who does quite a bit of art on the side. Nothing wrong with it. 👍🏼
You did a good job planning that out Jessica. Very smart decision. Cheers!
I’m a senior and I want to do graphic design but I’m afraid that I won’t be able to find a job.
omgg same i here some people say it great and other have terrible luck only thing i can say is look into ux u don't need a degree for it specifically but grahphic design is one of the popular degrees to get and maybe take a boot camp or read a book about ux and set up a portfolio and ur set for entry level which can range from 60k-90k
Also develop your creative eye by looking at top work on Behance and Dribbble
Read a book called "burn your portfolio" it's about art and jobs and stuff like that
I know this half a yr late but whatever. When you get to uni/college you need to network and talk to others like your peers and professors. You will make connections that will help you later in your prospective career (Graphic Design) like job opportunities, mentors/apprenticeship, etc.
dont worry Graphic design is pretty much on demand(in my country atleast)
There’s a newer degree called “arts management” or “arts administration” which I think is created to train people to work in art galleries or cultural institutions, i’d like to hear your opinion on that in terms of the ranking lol, do you think its worth it?
America’s crazy. Like here in Ireland yes you mightn’t have the best job but you can do what you love and make a living, without incredible student debt
Literally thank you so much, you basically saved me! I was so confused with everything and couldnt even choose a degree, but as soon as i heard you explain about industrial design i got so hyped up it immadiently became a dream.
3rd year ID student here! With a degree in ID you can go into so many different fields.I’ve learned to much from working in a woodshop to machine shops, Adobe programs, cad programs, 3D printing, creating soft goods, etc.
@@nicosantiago71hi, which college/university did u go to
YES SAMEE. I thought I had no other choice but to major in graphic design or illustration… but that degree is great and I’m so doing it
I will say, if you want to peruse architecture....and I can’t stress this enough, GET CONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE!!! A lot of student now are realizing this and going into construction management and other roles which can double your salary in about 10 years if your good. A B.arch can help you in many industries like real estate development, construction, architecture, and other related fields. Also, get internships in both architecture and construction while networking with industry people at events and other social activities!!! Best of Luck!!
Great input here, thanks!
true. during my apprenticeship in architecture for a year, I learned a lot than the ones that I could get from office works drafting and designing. Though, there is nothing wrong with that but construction management helps a lot in familiarizing equipment, the process and the materials and it's quality. I got a lot of shit from my boss since I was still a rookie in the field but it was all worth it. He was not a toxic boss though, he was sorta like Gordon Ramsey but in Architecture. Lol
As a architecture major at the moment, I have to agree with this. Get construction experience before you even start.
Thank you so much for covering graphic design!
My pleasure!
you have earned my fullest respect for saying the weeknd’s after hours was one of the good things that happened in 2020. +10 cool points
🤣
I respect you for having the guts to make this video.
Thanks
The two that I’m interested are in A so I’m satisfied
Nice. Good luck
Creative Direction?...hows it going? I'm looking into that career path but I'm still so unsure
Could we get a Celsius degree tier list?
Kelvin>>>Celsius, Kelvin ftw
haha 🤣🤣🤣
yo agree kelvin sounds like Kevin, easy points there. Plus Celsius and Fahrenheit are hard to spell and pronounce. And don’t even get me started on how the USA uses Fahrenheit instead of Celsius. Kelvin >Celsius > Fahrenheit
Cost is definitely THE MOST important thing to consider, especially if, as you mentioned, debt hinders future opportunities. But sometimes the extra expense will pay off depending on the school/program itself (and your skill level I guess). Many graduates are recruited from high caliber arts schools/programs. I went to a HS and college where we had access to private auditions with companies and agencies as well as work/performance opportunities as part of our training. The same resume-building opportunities are not the same if you're trying to make it on your own, especially in concert dance.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this Kira
as an industrial designer, I'm flattered :)
Nice.. Thanks for watching Caroline
One thing you are leaving out. It’s not the degree that counts. It’s the connections you make while in school that you would not have made on your own. Most school have direct access to industry recruiters.
What about humanities tier list !!!
Maybe in the future Jose
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS yeah please do it 🙏🏻🙏🏻🤷🏻♂️
@@ShaneHummus please do it
Y’all are underestimating Illustration. There’s a boat load you can do with that- that includes concept artist
Great video Shane!. Love how you keep your word and deliver what your viewers request
I try
This is what is needed, college will never be this transparent, advisors never give you this talk
A lot of my friends say that connections and marketing your art are the most useful things you need if you want to pursue an art degree
well, I guess its time for me to animate a video saying "I'm sorry for following my heart" to my mum who warned me that picking an art degree is like having the Grimm Reaper walking next to you
Is ur course animation? Is it worth it? Did u get a stable job? I also want to do animation idk
Hahahaha that's funny, rooting for yah, even if it's already 2 years 😅😅
@@ahahahahhahaha192 i ended up studying graphic design as its a more broad course for artsy kiddos. Personally, i dont like it very much, who knew people cared about the exact spacing measurement in between lines of text on magazines. The small bit of animation studies that i did i actually found the most enjoyable so i think that animation would be fun if you plan on doing it as a degree but I heard the animation industry isnt very well-paid from where i live (australia) though and it isnt very sought for. by all means, if you like animation, do it, people will hire especially if you have the passion and dedication for it
@@zenzenebrave im on my final year of my graphic design course. i so wish i picked animation cause goddamn i hate Adobe InDesign and the Helvetica font with a passion
@@biktolia_7223 but guess 😆 what u did it , that's some nerve of steel for doing it, just keep moving forward 😆🤭 And maybe you'll like it the more u know it hshahshhs ☺️
I met a lot of actors or wannabe actors in catering/restaurant. It became so common that the supervisors and management staff kept telling us :
"We are working this is not the time to hand out your acting/business cards or chatting with directors to land a gig, they are here to have fun and relax not for work"
"Please act with a smile and treat this event as if you are acting and putting on a show smiling, never frown and take a hit if a guest is rude to you just let it go and kill them with kindness"
"This is your time to shine"
It really got to the point
Thanks for sharing that
You forgot medical illustrator/animator. Also, still looking forward to a public health degree tier list.
Stay tuned
Awesome video bro! You covered some really important points about choosing an Art degree.
Glad you think so!
One thing about Graphic Design. if you're working In-House, or in angency, YOU HAVE NO CREATIVE CONTROL MOST OF THE TIME. There's either lots of intervene by clients / employers, or your art director / head of team. There are some places that do offer some sort of creative freedom. but most doesn't. Meaning what ever shit happens, you'll almost always taking the blame.
If you're planning going into the graphic design industry, freelancing is the better option here. At least you can set your own terms, & you can directly communicate with your clients
As someone that plans on majoring in graphic design and minoring in marketing/business, I agree with this list
Yes, with a sizeable portfolio, good work can speak for itself without a certificate of any kind.
Agreed Debbie
Graphic design and interior design higher than architecture??? Shouldn't it be S tier alongside industrial design or at least A tier? I think it's important enough because it also involves a fair overlap with civil engineering and urban planning. Plus, any decent-sized house, building or related project/structure has had an architect involved.
Love your vids nonetheless 🙌 helped me a lot with deciding!
Thanks for watching and for leaving a feedback
As an architect, I totally agree!
I agree with that. Although all three degrees are pretty useful.
*Me waiting to see an urban planning in one of these videos*
@@jacob9229 Hello Jacob. Although it may be rude to ask but can i ask for your salary?
Good Concept artists earn tons of money, thats a good career but also one of the hardest. You can earn a lot of money and have fun at work as an artist as long as you put the time and effort to learn how to draw well to be able to turn objects in space and if you learn how to solve design problems with your drawing skills. Also, add 3D skills such as modelling and sculpting and you automatically become a high value professional for the entertainment industry and more. Ive known concept artists that earn around 500 k a year working for the film and game industry. others that earn a lot as well working as weapon designers, vehicle designers and much more. A good artist is not someone who smokes weed and have random ideas. A good artist is someone who can solve problems and communicate them with clear and grounded ideas with a visual language to help industries create new physical or digital products. No artists means no films, no games, no vehicles, no planes, no buildings, no machines for water treatment, no machines for medical purposes, etc. Its all about going for the hardest skills to develop and working hard and smart to acquire those skills. Thats what makes an artist become valuable in many industries and be able to earn pretty good money in the process.
100% this
I’m glad you covered 3d animation
Cheers!
The color contrast I chose for my like button art going from a light grey to a beautiful blue really shines and I'm kind of proud of it. Not to brag.
Thanks for sharing that. I might try it out. Cheers!
i’m struggling a lot between industrial design and graphic design
I think graphic design has a wider variety of options, while industrial design feels like it’s too specified to the point your might not have as many options to work in something else
For all those haters out there, this guy actually makes some pretty accurate statistics. Honestly, hands down agree with the degrees on the F are actually just garbage.
Thanks for your comment Isaac
He's just reaing a website. He doesn't actually know what he's talking about.
www.bls.gov/ooh/
You're wrong. And so is the Brainlet behind the camera.
When I was young I always wanted to draw cartoons, and I thought animation would be cool to work in. But the fact that many art schools are for profit spells a huge gamble for debt.
I found out you don’t technically need an art degree in animation (although for some people they want to if they want a structured routine and networking opportunities in school). There are some online courses like Animation Mentor that can help students learn how to get into the industry.
as an Visual Communicatio Design aka Graphic Design major. we taugh: print production. 2d and 3d form in motion. 3 levels of typography, 2 levels of photography, 2 lvls of UX/UI, and all other class for degree which is "Bachelors Degree of Fine Arts". So we can major in anything after undergrad
I'm in marketing communications as a content writer. Our company has offices in Houston and India. I write the content and the graphic designers do layout. The graphic designers are in India. I can definitely relate to this video.
omg please do humanities majors ranked!!! (english, history, geography etc.)
Maybe in the future. Stay tuned
I received my Adobe Certification in high school and took Graphic Design for four years eventually reaching the most advanced class they had. I was thinking of going with a degree in Animation or New Media. That way i’ll have a bunch of skills, right? What do you guys think?
What did you end up deciding?
Finally, I’ve been waiting for this for way too long 🎉🎉
Enjoy
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS thank you dear
Since psychology is so broad and popular having a rank of all psychology related jobs would be cool
Hmmm.. I'll keep that in mind Bryan. Sounds like an interesting topic
I am so happy he made this.
Thanks for watching Cesar
Hi Shane. I have a video suggestion for you. Can you make a list of the top best countries to study abroad? This can help some people who are looking for high quality education to see and decide on the other countries available apart from the USA. Thank you in advance!
Noted Anthony!.. Maybe in the future
This was some good video. It was fast and detailed and easy to catch
I’m kind of confused because it seems like you don’t actually know what a music degree is or does.
Not many people get a degree in just music. It’s Music Performance with a specific instrument focus, or Music Technology, or Music Theory, Music Composition, or Music Education, or Music History. Music performance majors go on to join orchestras, jazz ensembles, or military bands. And yes, most people in these groups have music performance degrees. Have you heard of Juilliard? The University of North Texas?
Why are you putting B-roll of people playing guitar hero on the music degree?
yeeaaa!!!! this was very interesting and helpful Animation and film degree prepare to be in my palms
Glad it was helpful!
Social Science tier list?
Maybe in the future?
@@ShaneHummus yes please. If you do can you include geography? It is kinda both a social science and physical science. There are a lot of jobs in gis
Yesssss! I will be looking out for this one!
Fiver graphic designer dont charge $5 unless your buying from a highschool student.
Lol this was a interesting video tho I’m definitely fine with my studio art major😂 if I go to college might as well be in debt for something I like😂
You got this!
Im also a studio art major 😭😭
A huge factor is also location. There are certain areas that lack certain jobs and other locations that are a hot spot for art jobs.
I always watch your videos man glad to see you’re a fellow weeknd fan. I had tickets for the after hours tour sadly postponed till next year.
Thanks for watching
Something a lot of people don't know about graphic design is that it isn't just the designing part that's our job, we have to write creative briefs and design branding projects to give a flow of what we want and could need, we have to manage time and deal with the hassle of other people not doing their job and putting us into a heavy crunch period. Graphic Design is writing, and managing a timeline and then being forced into a 2 week crunch for a project that would take a month and a half.
Was hoping to see culinary arts in the list lol.
Your videos are great and entertaining to watch. Keep them coming!🙌
Thank you! Will do!
I was studying graphic design but left the course as I felt art was my passion and I didn't want to turn it into a profession.
If you're talented and passionate, I believe most of these skills can be gained outside of a traditional course. It's all about honing your craft in your spare time.
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Agreed. I took art in school thinking I liked the subject but it was so draining and stressful that I ended up hating the subject.
@@NegativeAccelerate so sorry to hear that, hopefully you found something fulfilling 🙏🏾
Interesting a passion u didn't want to turn into a profession, good quote 👌👌
I don't understand that🤷♀️Then what did you choose as a profession? If not passion what then....
Hey man! Good job making a video for Art degrees. Love all of your videos. Not skipping ads because you deserve it.
I appreciate that!
Getting a degree in animation at a public school with a pretty good art program. You don't need a degree to get into the industry (unless you're going into teaching), so a public school is good enough to make projects for a portfolio and have some networking, especially if the school is so close to LA. And it's easy to pay off the expenses so there is 0 debt. Boom, everyone is happy.
Also could you do History/Social Studies related degrees if you haven't already?
Good luck. and stay tuned for upcoming videos
Money would be cool but I would love learning how to draw and paint it’s a skill that I’d like to have for myself in order to draw or paint anything.
Yes. And there are plenty of books, videos, and classes where you can learn without going into student debt. Just start.
Some of these I can from the skills that I acquire as a civil & arch engineer, i.e. interior design, graphics design, illustration and even industrial design
Your videos are awesome shane
It's hilarious how low the pay is for all the degrees
As an Illustration major, you're right
as an Visual Communicatio Design aka Graphic Design major. he's sort right
Do u have regrets? If u didn't major in illustration what do u think u will pick?
As a Graphic Design major, you don't just learn to make pretty art with Photoshop; you also learn advertising, copywriting, marketing and a little bit of UX/UI Design. Well....Atleast in my country. It probably depends on the college and the individual.
as an Visual Communicatio Design aka Graphic Design major. we taugh: print production. 2d and 3d form in motion. 3 levels of typography, 2 levels of photography, 2 lvls of UX/UI, and all other class for degree which is "Bachelors Degree of Fine Arts". So we can major in anything after undergrad
i like how im going into Industrial Design before watching this video, though im still not quite sure this is what i want to do
i believe want > stats but i see why this tierlist is useful for some people
7:21 “no pUN intended” nice voice crack Shane
😂
holy shit. I'm about to apply to a fine arts+ art history program in Rome.
and then I see this video. BOTH? what do I do now
I cry.
Plan it out
some colleges list what jobs you can get with that degree, maybe get a fine arts minor and study something for your major?
Nice tier list. I wonder where would UX/UI design land. I know that it wouldn't be difficult for a graphic designer to transition to UX/UI design
i was just about to comment this lol
Hey Shane. Nice video. Can you make one about the top master’s degrees?
Yup! that one's cookin.. stay tuned for that..
List with biology related degrees! Like biotechnology, biochemistry, enviromental etc...
I think I covered some of that on my Science tier list video
Right on time🙌🏻
Great video :)
Yay! Thank you!
These income amounts are very inflated. I feel most don’t even have a job
You should do a video someday on art "institutes" like Full Sail University, Art Institute of X, etc...
Quick correction about architecture: there is a difference between a bachelor of science/art, with a major in architecture, and a B.Arch. the first, only takes 4 years and if you want your license, you have to get a masters. The second, typically takes 5 years but you will be eligible to take your licensing exams. Take it from some one who thought she would do fine with just an associates in arch. Its about as useful as a high school diploma.
Video idea: You give us your higher education journey, all the classes you took in undergrad and pharmacy school and what you wish you did and didn't do.
Maybe in the future Charley. But thanks for the idea. Cheers!
Please make a video about studying "Media and Journalism"
Any specific aspect you want me to cover?
Shane Hummus - The Success GPS is it even worth it
@@ShaneHummus After graduation, what are the opportunities of a student of this particular subject?
@@ShaneHummus graduate prospects, value of undergraduate degrees in the media field e.g. media and communications
Great video shane I'm looking forward to your next video
Thanks 👍
My dad is a painter, y'know paints homes, works in a business. He very obviously doesn't have a college degree.
Thanks for sharing Hunter
How much he makes
I make more than any of these at 21yrs old and a college dropout, and I only work 6 months out of the year. The other 6 months? Whatever I want to do, like take classes for minors for fun and rock climbing. College isn’t for everyone and honestly that’s ok
me, an English major, clicking on this video: oh boy
Let me know your thoughts
I love these videos so much 🔥
Thanks a lot
im on my third year of my illustration diploma and i'm lowkey regretting it now
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Why? I want to go for either animation or illustration so im really curious as to why you regret it