How to repel boarding parties? Normal answer: marines with swords and maybe boarding pikes to fight off the boarders. Turtle ship answer: "they're welcome to jump down one or more stories from one rolling ship to another onto the spiked iron plates that are our ship's roof if that's really how they want to die. No biggie. I hear Samurai have a thing for death by self-disembowelment, and we're happy to be accommodating hoasts."
They were occupied for a long period of time by Japan if I remember correctly Edit: I dont mean to dunk on Koreans, more to call out the colony that Japan had on Korean land Second Edit: I'm totally wrong, most archaeologists have found no evidence of a Japanese outpost in Korea from 300-700 CE, but the area that existed there sent many goods and trade to Japan, including Korean iron.
@@Awes0m3n3s5 realitvely, but yes, korea, as in the area, had very little independence throughout it's existance Edith: as the comment of "Jae Kim" made me aware of, the koreans were more in a tributary relationship with china, back then, with some form of relative autonomy. Still, what I meant to say, is that the idea of korea as in the nation, is a relative new thing
I thought most of the turtle ships were lost but then I remembered that was under the other admiral due to the fact he got fired for no reason so he definitely didn't lose a ship and also only "lost" the final battle if lost means you die being the war drum having your son and nephew lead in your stead even winning the battle despite your death
After one battle, he held a meeting with his war council, during which he loosened his robe, drew his knife, used it to DIG A BULLET OUT OF HIS SHOULDER, and immediately began planning the next battle. All while his commanders and advisors were staring in shock, since none of them knew he had been hit.
Alot of Admirals who knew history regarded him as the greatest. And for good reason the man basically singlehandedly won the war for the Koreans. While conducting his campaigns, Admiral Yi got virtually no support from his colleagues or the Korean court. A famous quote from Japan's greatest admiral, Heihachiro Togo the victor of Tsushima, said: "It may be proper to compare me to Nelson, but not to Korea's Yi Sun-sin. He is too great to be compared to anyone."
He is literally the greatest admiral in history. Dude had maybe over a dozen ships or so, but was able to beat a Japanese force of a few hundred ships.
@@JohnYoo39 The fact that the ship is so well thought of and have perfect balance, that when you fire a cannon it doesn't immediately went off balance and tip over is the proof of master craftsmanship and impeccable ship design. The designer is without doubt, a genius. Owh... Wait... The designer of the ship is non other than Chadmiral Yi Sun Shin Himself.🤣
You should replace Korean navy with admiral Ye. Their navy was absolutely pathetic. Their first actions against the Japanese was to ignore the invasion and then burn all their own boats. When admiral Ye took over, most of Korea's navy had imploded.
@Ban this youtube South Korea lost their balls about the same time they lost International support. They're just lucky their cowardice is surpassed by North Korea's incompetence. My only amusement in the matter is found in the fact both sides of the dmz complain about it but don't take any real steps to end it.
@@clothar23 You do know that the reason North Korea is so poor is because they spend all their money on the military to prevent South Korea invading them with western support right?
You mean china and the us are so good at fightint that it's still a stalemate. Get ur facts straight. North Korea was pushed into china, and then it was china who pushed south Korea back, and then the us had to intervene so as to not lose an ally.
@@adrianhoraciosantanavaldes1908 North Korea was never pushed into china originally that area between china, korea, and siberia and Mongolia was korean however fairly recently like the 1800's that part of what would later become North Korea decided we'll be chinese officially even though they're more like a korean protectorate so if anything north korea just got backed up against former korean peoples.
I don’t think there is a single “best” naval commander in history. I think Yi was certainly the best in his era, but with how much naval engagements have changed throughout history you can’t do a comparison between Yi and sir Francis Drake or Spruance. Yi like many great admirals saw a glaring weakness in the enemy and exploited it.
@@Nale_Ckleysho I think the biggest difference between yi and some of the people you are talking about is they were all amazing at commanding battles. But yi was also incredible at running a war. Every time he was demoted then promoted again he pretty much had to start over from scratch, he made his own supply lines, he set up his own infrastructure since he was cut off from the rest of the government. He won battle after battle with a handful of ships and for the first few months before the government started getting in his way he never lost a soldier. Though two were wounded, one was hit by a bullet and the other was standing too close to a barel of gun powder that went up in flames. Now these are my thoughts of course and the thoughts of a few others I talked to but obviously you can have your own opinions and I look forward to a fun conversation about naval strategy :)
@@chimera6485 Seriously, the man’s military career was a yo-yo: down, then up, then down again. All due to the fact that he had an annoy little thing called “principles.”
He is the best, no one comes close - both as a person and as a commander. Also he died the most honorable death there is - on his magnum opus battle that ended the war and dreams of Japanese expansion for decades.
Admiral Yi was one of the biggest badasses of history, genuinely one of if not the best admiral who ever lived. Seriously. He never lost a single ship in any of his battles. Without him, Korea probably wouldn't have survived.
@@TheSimmr001 I kid. I adore The Admiral. That wasn't his own developers patching him, that was his developers being too stupid to realize this one character they didn't want anyone to give a shit about is the one thing keeping them afloat. They gave him a posthumous title and DLC tributes after he died to placate the fans, but KoreaSoft were actually quite relieved to know they won't be known as the Admiral Yi people.
They have one replica you can see in Korea along with a massive statue of Yi. The war museum also has a scaled down version. I remember playing age of empires as a kid thinking how cool they were. Ended up marrying a Korean, and man are they proud of Yi and his turtle ships. Korea is so small and squashed between China and Japan that they've been forced to be extremely inventive and stubborn. Definitely recommend visiting the war museum in Seoul if you can, outstanding military museum up there with the ones in the UK.
For those that want a deeper dive on the history, Extra Credits did a pretty good series on the naval portion of the war these were used in a while back.
@@misternich4935 says the 5 day old account that's TOTALLY not still seething over that video because he's a Nazi and his ideology being called out one time is the only thing he knows about their channel.
Admiral Yi, also one of the inventors of the ship, was truly a genius of finding a small advantage and just wedging it open as far as he could. And not just with the turtle ships against Japanese boarding tactics. His cannons slightly outranged the Japanese cannons so he studied the tides to keep his ships juuuuust out of range as they fired on the Japanese navy. He was incredible. I can't find a record of him ever even losing a ship. To quote Japan's much later Admiral Togo, on being compared to Admiral Yi and Horatio Nelson, "It may be proper to compare me with Nelson, but not with Korea's Yi Sun-sin, for he has no equal."
The Koreans only need one advantage over the Japanese: Admiral Yi Sun Shin. Single handedly saves his country's existence and never lost a ship under his command
His entire story sounds like some mythical heroics story with miniscule truth in the legend. It's insane to think everything about his story is absolutely true. Dude was literally every super hero ever. And the level of incompetence around him was equally astounding.
@@projectdaaltaran The vast, vast majority of the time, reality gives us people who are just, well, people. Even the best of whom is limited, flawed, and fallible. And then every once in a while, very occasionally, reality forgets to do that, and instead gives us a goddamn D&D character with 180 hit points and +38 to Knowledge (naval tactics).
@@jarrakul he didn't even know how ship works before he was assigned as naval commander, yet he prevailed and created such a strong navy capable of single handedly preventing Japanese invasion without any help from central government. Dude was literally Korean WN protagonist.
They were perfectly designed, even down to the nails locking the planks together being made of wood. They expanded when exposed to water and thus held things together better and also didn't rust like metal ones did.
God : “How did you die my son?” Dead sailor : “…I…Don’t wanna talk about it.” *A few seconds later* God : “Turtle ship?” Sailor : “Turtle ship…” Edit : Wow 611 likes! New record. I didn’t even think my joke was good!
@@danielleayala2171 even bigger ships would be wrecked by a cannon going of so close. The blast would just set everything on fire and widespread fire is game over for a wooden ship.
I can imagine a middle aged and fed up samurai bobbing in the water thinking something like "The fuck is this? Fighting on water sucks. I wanna swing swords on land, not get smacked by a spiky turtle boat."
“Their ships, called fune…” fune or 船 just literally means “ship” not a specific type of ship. Edit: the Japanese mainly used ships called Atakebune and Sekibune.
@@elbolainas4174 I mean, with naval powerhouses like china and japan as your neighbor, it's pretty difficult to even manufacture different ship classes, much less name them
You forgot the best part! The dragon head in the front isn't for decoration. It serves a very important function. After you've rammed the opposing ship at full speed, the dragon head will begin to release poison gas onto the enemy ship, causing the enemy to die.
I was fascinated by these ships since I was a boy, and this spring I got to finally go to Korea, specifically Tongyeong, and step foot onto them. I took more pictures in my 3 days in Tongyeong than I did the other 5 weeks I was in Korea. A truly wonderful experience.
Well, if you like history about that period(Imjin war) then Jinju Museum is good for you. That museum is specialized for that war and some gun powder weapons. If you visit again Korea. Then that museum is not bad option for you.
@@PetitIne unfortunately I went during the height of Covid, and not every place accepted my US vaccination card. I definitely plan on going back. My trip was far too short for such an interesting place and people.
The Koreans focused an cannons for stand off fighting as well. The Japanese used muskets instead as part of the boarding attack. Korean ships were made of oak and used wooden pegs to hold the ship together. The Japanese ships were pine with iron nails. The pine splintered easily when hit by cannon or rammed and the nails were prone to rusting. Japanese ships quite literally fell apart when engaging the enemy.
Love how I've known about this ship for years because of AoE2 lmao. I remember playing it as a kid not knowing it was historical for awhile. I thought Joan of Arc was just an epic video game character and i was accidentally learning things.
Well under Yi it won 16 of 16 battles. It was more like "the turtle ship is a good idea, and Yi is a brilliant admiral." The Korean Navy fared about as well as the Korean Army when not under the command of Yi.
It's a bit surprising this ship was not copied elsewhere or developed further. The closest type ship didn't come until the USS Monitor vs. Merrimack hundreds of years later. What an amazing innovation this was!
The Sengoku period was a very funny and interesting time. Also Yi Sun Shin deserves his own video that guy was a leviathan at sea and his rise to that point is really interesting. He’s a real patriot for his dedication to the country.
As a Korean obviously have pride in the history especially of Admiral Yi. His background is interest and I recommend anyone to look him up. I also when I’ve went to Korean not only went to a museum to see a life scale (not sure if it was real or a replica) but also went and saw the large statue of admiral Yi.
I love Civ5 for introducing me to this. Turns out you can learn from video games, after all. Also, general Yi fought until he died, and he told his troops not to tell anyone that he was dead so that they wouldn't lose morale.
The Turtle ship had so many cool weapons - Canons -an Armoured spiked top -some sources say the dragon mouth spewed some kind of weapon aswell but I can't recall what atm
The Korean Navy didn't win 16 out of 16 battles, they won 15 out of 16 battles and the one battle they did lose, they lost their entire navy because of their replacement admiral, Won Gyun
Korea only had a few of these turtle ships called Geobukseon. They were good but way too few to make a difference. Their role in the Imjin War is greatly exaggerated. The real reason Admiral Yi defeated the Japanese so many times was that the basic Korean navy ship Panokseon (of which they had many more) was also quite good and admiral Yi was a strategic genius and was a good leader - his forces had great morale. Geobukseon had almost no actual impact on the war.
This is incorrect. While u are right that the ships alone werent suficient reason to win outright, they definitly made a turning point, actually giving more strategical room to handle some of the few japanese advantages on sea like numbers.
@@adrianhoraciosantanavaldes1908 Battle of Myeongnyang says No. 13 normal Korean ships vs 130 Japanese Ships Korea win All Turtle ships were destroyed in The Won Kyon accident (also known as the Only Korean Navy defeat in the War)
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 the won kyon also was the only battle not directed by Yi. Probably why it happened. But returning to the point, what I say is that the turtle ships did have an actual impact on the war. If you take as an example only one battle to make a statement about a whole war, that took many battles, skirmishes and events to decide the outcome, then I could say that Korea is a land filled with worthless and incompetent men, which is of course incorrect, just as saying that turtle ships had no actual impact on the war.
@@tylerrobbins8311 thanks, unfortunately southeast Asian historical warfare wasn't focused on very much in my various educational experiences from private school, public school, home school, military training (focused more on other combat histories) and University. Sad really, I might have missed a course at the University they had a pretty diverse range of majors and electives. Too many electives got expensive even with military covering most of my School there were always those damn random costs that like books and lab fees
@@Hyper_Fox06 Ah I gotcha, honestly the reason it's not covered much is because it doesn't impact they way warfare has evolved in our modern era. Given excluding the first ironclads was odd. Japan would've completely reshaped history if not for them. End of the day though there is a reason they focus mostly on Greek, Roman, British, and american history. History is underrated and it should get more focuse an attention, but most trim it to the barest minimum. I recommend looking into it, particularly the Mongolian faild invasion of Vietnam as it shows the huge weakness in their logistics.
I am grateful that you showed a real life picture of one of these. That was from the military museum in Seoul South Korea. Its even cooler up close and in person! You’d need about 4-6 hours to see everything they have there on display
The fact that yi took SOOO MUCH SHIT and was demoted to the lowest military rank MULTIPLE TIMES just proves his badassnes and still kicked Japanese ass is amazing
Admiral Yi Sun-sin was a hero an a patriot, where he has been disregarded by the court and dishonored many time even after he stopped an invasion for his country, he just never quits being in service for his country when called for.
Admiral Yi was a military genius, constantly beset on all sides by political inaction and corruption; and yet he still managed to not only save Korea but have some of the coolest ships ever created in the process.
I just love how cool and unique the turtle ship is.
How to repel boarding parties?
Normal answer: marines with swords and maybe boarding pikes to fight off the boarders.
Turtle ship answer: "they're welcome to jump down one or more stories from one rolling ship to another onto the spiked iron plates that are our ship's roof if that's really how they want to die. No biggie. I hear Samurai have a thing for death by self-disembowelment, and we're happy to be accommodating hoasts."
If AOE 2 got it right, I believe they were called Kobukson.
@@redclaytanto geobukseon*
@@chungfa1851 I figured I misspelled it. Thank you for the correction.
That's the biggest Fuck you
Korean history be like
>get invaded by China or japan
>extremely outmatched
>do some crazy shenanigans
>win war
Afghans of the east
@@f3tsch906 that's a strange way to spell Vietnam
@@eccentricthought4511 the afghans of the south east
They were occupied for a long period of time by Japan if I remember correctly
Edit: I dont mean to dunk on Koreans, more to call out the colony that Japan had on Korean land
Second Edit: I'm totally wrong, most archaeologists have found no evidence of a Japanese outpost in Korea from 300-700 CE, but the area that existed there sent many goods and trade to Japan, including Korean iron.
@@Awes0m3n3s5 realitvely, but yes, korea, as in the area, had very little independence throughout it's existance
Edith: as the comment of "Jae Kim" made me aware of, the koreans were more in a tributary relationship with china, back then, with some form of relative autonomy.
Still, what I meant to say, is that the idea of korea as in the nation, is a relative new thing
If I remember correctly admiral Yi never lost a single ship. This man's accomplishments cannot be overstated
I thought most of the turtle ships were lost but then I remembered that was under the other admiral due to the fact he got fired for no reason so he definitely didn't lose a ship and also only "lost" the final battle if lost means you die being the war drum having your son and nephew lead in your stead even winning the battle despite your death
He lost a lot of ships. But destroyed way more than he lost while being outnumbered.
@@giovannicervantes2053 the turtle ship didnt exist at the start of the war nor was it the only ship they built.
Admiral Yi has no equal in History or I'm present day
@@Julian-df2pj legit only reason he died was some arquebusier got lucky
Admiral Yi Sun Shin, being regards one of the greatests navy admirals for his feat of beating the odds that is not in their favor.
His own son finished a pivotal battle as him when fatally wounded
After one battle, he held a meeting with his war council, during which he loosened his robe, drew his knife, used it to DIG A BULLET OUT OF HIS SHOULDER, and immediately began planning the next battle. All while his commanders and advisors were staring in shock, since none of them knew he had been hit.
Absolutely Captain Jack Sparrow behavior
Alot of Admirals who knew history regarded him as the greatest. And for good reason the man basically singlehandedly won the war for the Koreans. While conducting his campaigns, Admiral Yi got virtually no support from his colleagues or the Korean court. A famous quote from Japan's greatest admiral, Heihachiro Togo the victor of Tsushima, said: "It may be proper to compare me to Nelson, but not to Korea's Yi Sun-sin. He is too great to be compared to anyone."
He is literally the greatest admiral in history. Dude had maybe over a dozen ships or so, but was able to beat a Japanese force of a few hundred ships.
"Why is that ship spiky, smoking, and armed with one cannon?"
"Run"
"Sir we are on water."
It had more than one cannon. Its also theorized the dragon head breathed poison gas or fire out.
More like: "Sail!"
What's hilarious is that it had 26 cannons... which is absolutely insane for a ship its size.
@@JohnYoo39 The fact that the ship is so well thought of and have perfect balance, that when you fire a cannon it doesn't immediately went off balance and tip over is the proof of master craftsmanship and impeccable ship design.
The designer is without doubt, a genius.
Owh... Wait... The designer of the ship is non other than Chadmiral Yi Sun Shin Himself.🤣
Koreans also invented the wheeled rocket barrage. Today we know them as MLRS
Hwacha!
Katuchucha?
Dude they had a frickin hellfire rocket system too
Primitive but still mindblowing 🤯
Like medieval missile pods and shit
@@lo-rez "I say, Sir Godfrey, this almost feels like wizard craft, for I cannot resist the urge to fire it!"
@@alexandrefillot9600 oh wait I just described what he described didn't I? 😂😂
Japanese Army; "Its over Anakin, i have the high ground."
Korean Navy; "I fail to see the part where thats my problem."
Hahaha, this comment works everywhere.
"Then jump. Do a flip."
“Double the height, twice the fall”
Pulls the ground under Japan.
You should replace Korean navy with admiral Ye. Their navy was absolutely pathetic. Their first actions against the Japanese was to ignore the invasion and then burn all their own boats. When admiral Ye took over, most of Korea's navy had imploded.
Koreans are so good at fighting that when they fought each other, they're still in a stalemate to this day.
Only because South Korea has no real interest in fighting and North Korea is too busy trying to find food.
@Ban this youtube South Korea lost their balls about the same time they lost International support. They're just lucky their cowardice is surpassed by North Korea's incompetence.
My only amusement in the matter is found in the fact both sides of the dmz complain about it but don't take any real steps to end it.
@@clothar23 You do know that the reason North Korea is so poor is because they spend all their money on the military to prevent South Korea invading them with western support right?
You mean china and the us are so good at fightint that it's still a stalemate. Get ur facts straight. North Korea was pushed into china, and then it was china who pushed south Korea back, and then the us had to intervene so as to not lose an ally.
@@adrianhoraciosantanavaldes1908 North Korea was never pushed into china originally that area between china, korea, and siberia and Mongolia was korean however fairly recently like the 1800's that part of what would later become North Korea decided we'll be chinese officially even though they're more like a korean protectorate so if anything north korea just got backed up against former korean peoples.
Ah yes, the Korean special unit from AoE2.
Man of culture.
Now after watching this video I feel like playing some AOE
The war wagon was okay
Civ V as well.
Wololol time
@@FilthyGaijin I was the same aha. Soon as I seen it thought might have to have a few games tomorrow
The Japanese would go on to plagiarize this tradition of driving human-piloted explosives into enemy ships.
Ironically some were piloted by Koreans
Turtle Ships weren't suicidal
They were covered in armor and could resist gunfire
one must be destroyed to do damage, other just need to be existing
@@ShebastianReyes ye through forced conscription
@@thfkmnIII not all of the time.
Korea has a rough history but my god they are resilient as hell
Admiral yi is considered by many to he the best naval commander in history.
Myself included
I don’t think there is a single “best” naval commander in history. I think Yi was certainly the best in his era, but with how much naval engagements have changed throughout history you can’t do a comparison between Yi and sir Francis Drake or Spruance. Yi like many great admirals saw a glaring weakness in the enemy and exploited it.
@@Nale_Ckleysho I think the biggest difference between yi and some of the people you are talking about is they were all amazing at commanding battles.
But yi was also incredible at running a war. Every time he was demoted then promoted again he pretty much had to start over from scratch, he made his own supply lines, he set up his own infrastructure since he was cut off from the rest of the government. He won battle after battle with a handful of ships and for the first few months before the government started getting in his way he never lost a soldier. Though two were wounded, one was hit by a bullet and the other was standing too close to a barel of gun powder that went up in flames.
Now these are my thoughts of course and the thoughts of a few others I talked to but obviously you can have your own opinions and I look forward to a fun conversation about naval strategy :)
@@chimera6485
Seriously, the man’s military career was a yo-yo: down, then up, then down again. All due to the fact that he had an annoy little thing called “principles.”
He is the best, no one comes close - both as a person and as a commander.
Also he died the most honorable death there is - on his magnum opus battle that ended the war and dreams of Japanese expansion for decades.
The Hwacha and now this. Korean tech, people, food, history, culture, etc. is amazing. Much respect to Korea.
Admiral Yi was one of the biggest badasses of history, genuinely one of if not the best admiral who ever lived. Seriously. He never lost a single ship in any of his battles. Without him, Korea probably wouldn't have survived.
Admiral Yi has one of the most amazing stories out there and his genius was crazy
In one battle the Koreans had 13 ships against 333 Japanese ships… the Koreans didn’t lose a single ship.. it was a massacre….
Name of the battle?
@@sparky2721 the Battle of Myeongnyang en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Myeongnyang
Nah, it was hax. Hax, I tell you. Someone needs to patch Yi. He's totally broken.
@@Borderose considering his own country kept trying to kill him, they WERE trying to.
@@TheSimmr001 I kid. I adore The Admiral. That wasn't his own developers patching him, that was his developers being too stupid to realize this one character they didn't want anyone to give a shit about is the one thing keeping them afloat. They gave him a posthumous title and DLC tributes after he died to placate the fans, but KoreaSoft were actually quite relieved to know they won't be known as the Admiral Yi people.
Admiral Yi was truly a Legend
I love the Korean turtle ship, I find it so cool.
I'm not sure but I think even till now Yi Sun Shin is the greatest admiral of all time. In naval warfare he is the G.O.A.T.
😂
I went on one at a museumin Korea, it's a litteral floating tank. It's a masterpiece
Hi! Did you visit Jinju national museum? Or not then if National Central museem have same model about turtle ship? I don't know well for it.
@@PetitIne the National Central Museum my guy.
@@theeinqusition1 ahhhhh yes! National Central museum is good!! I was visit there 4 times. But i didn't saw all monuments yet.
Japan: No! You can't just ram our ship and then shoot it😭
Korea: Ship go Zoom Zoom and Boom Boom
It wasnt just the ships. Admiral Yi was a fucking magician! After he was replaced they started losing battles until Yi returned
They have one replica you can see in Korea along with a massive statue of Yi. The war museum also has a scaled down version. I remember playing age of empires as a kid thinking how cool they were. Ended up marrying a Korean, and man are they proud of Yi and his turtle ships. Korea is so small and squashed between China and Japan that they've been forced to be extremely inventive and stubborn. Definitely recommend visiting the war museum in Seoul if you can, outstanding military museum up there with the ones in the UK.
It's kinda incredible how these ships kinda look like early ironclad vessels
For those that want a deeper dive on the history, Extra Credits did a pretty good series on the naval portion of the war these were used in a while back.
Ah yes extra credits the guys who complained about playing as a nazi in a ww2 game
@@misternich4935 says the 5 day old account that's TOTALLY not still seething over that video because he's a Nazi and his ideology being called out one time is the only thing he knows about their channel.
True. One of their better episodes.
True. One of their better episodes.
@@misternich4935 every corproation when it grows large enough has the political activists infect it eventually.
The Yi turtle ship is so famous it's in EVERYTHING, Mobas, anime, manga, you name it. That's badass
Admiral Yi was a GENIUS and I love his story
Admiral Yi, also one of the inventors of the ship, was truly a genius of finding a small advantage and just wedging it open as far as he could. And not just with the turtle ships against Japanese boarding tactics. His cannons slightly outranged the Japanese cannons so he studied the tides to keep his ships juuuuust out of range as they fired on the Japanese navy. He was incredible. I can't find a record of him ever even losing a ship. To quote Japan's much later Admiral Togo, on being compared to Admiral Yi and Horatio Nelson, "It may be proper to compare me with Nelson, but not with Korea's Yi Sun-sin, for he has no equal."
And now you know why one of the most famous villains in Japanese media is a giant spiked turtle that spits fireballs.
The Koreans only need one advantage over the Japanese: Admiral Yi Sun Shin. Single handedly saves his country's existence and never lost a ship under his command
And still, petty politics and aristocratic infighting damaged him more than the Japanese
His entire story sounds like some mythical heroics story with miniscule truth in the legend. It's insane to think everything about his story is absolutely true. Dude was literally every super hero ever. And the level of incompetence around him was equally astounding.
@@projectdaaltaran The vast, vast majority of the time, reality gives us people who are just, well, people. Even the best of whom is limited, flawed, and fallible. And then every once in a while, very occasionally, reality forgets to do that, and instead gives us a goddamn D&D character with 180 hit points and +38 to Knowledge (naval tactics).
@@jarrakul he didn't even know how ship works before he was assigned as naval commander, yet he prevailed and created such a strong navy capable of single handedly preventing Japanese invasion without any help from central government. Dude was literally Korean WN protagonist.
@@projectdaaltaran 한국, 중국, 일본의 기록에 의해 확인된 사실입니다. 그의 업적이 기록된 가장 비판적인 기록물은 제독의 일기 입니다.
Admiral yeee was a genius
They were perfectly designed, even down to the nails locking the planks together being made of wood. They expanded when exposed to water and thus held things together better and also didn't rust like metal ones did.
Age of empires introduced me to these ships. I used to love playing koreans and spamming these things
God : “How did you die my son?” Dead sailor : “…I…Don’t wanna talk about it.” *A few seconds later* God : “Turtle ship?” Sailor : “Turtle ship…”
Edit : Wow 611 likes! New record. I didn’t even think my joke was good!
😂😂😂
But yeah these must of worked WONDERS at least for small to medium ships!
@@danielleayala2171 even bigger ships would be wrecked by a cannon going of so close. The blast would just set everything on fire and widespread fire is game over for a wooden ship.
Japanese: pull up to Korea with hundreds of ships
Yi Sun Shin: "haha, turtle ships go BOOM BOOM"
I can imagine a middle aged and fed up samurai bobbing in the water thinking something like "The fuck is this? Fighting on water sucks. I wanna swing swords on land, not get smacked by a spiky turtle boat."
“Their ships, called fune…” fune or 船 just literally means “ship” not a specific type of ship.
Edit: the Japanese mainly used ships called Atakebune and Sekibune.
that’s what he meant
They were pretty unimaginative with their naval warfare didn't they?
Ha thats kind of fune
@@elbolainas4174 I mean, with naval powerhouses like china and japan as your neighbor, it's pretty difficult to even manufacture different ship classes, much less name them
@@kyleterry5190 I was talking about the Japanese, the korean "turtle ships" have a cooler name but the japanese ones are just called "ships"
Never seen this! Just shows how well a superior strategy can make such a big difference. Use your brain, not your force! Great vid
You forgot the best part! The dragon head in the front isn't for decoration. It serves a very important function. After you've rammed the opposing ship at full speed, the dragon head will begin to release poison gas onto the enemy ship, causing the enemy to die.
I was fascinated by these ships since I was a boy, and this spring I got to finally go to Korea, specifically Tongyeong, and step foot onto them. I took more pictures in my 3 days in Tongyeong than I did the other 5 weeks I was in Korea. A truly wonderful experience.
Well, if you like history about that period(Imjin war) then Jinju Museum is good for you. That museum is specialized for that war and some gun powder weapons.
If you visit again Korea. Then that museum is not bad option for you.
@@PetitIne unfortunately I went during the height of Covid, and not every place accepted my US vaccination card. I definitely plan on going back. My trip was far too short for such an interesting place and people.
imagine someone rams your ship and the next moment it blows up
And the enemy ship is still intact and is moving at yours
I like to imagine these turtle ships inspire the creation of Bowser and encourage aware japanese youth to beat Bowser.
I wish they would add these to CIV 6 it would make Korea so much better
The Koreans focused an cannons for stand off fighting as well. The Japanese used muskets instead as part of the boarding attack.
Korean ships were made of oak and used wooden pegs to hold the ship together. The Japanese ships were pine with iron nails. The pine splintered easily when hit by cannon or rammed and the nails were prone to rusting. Japanese ships quite literally fell apart when engaging the enemy.
Love how I've known about this ship for years because of AoE2 lmao. I remember playing it as a kid not knowing it was historical for awhile. I thought Joan of Arc was just an epic video game character and i was accidentally learning things.
Admiral Yi’s story is just so cool in general.
It's admiral yi that won the battle
If they didn't had such a good general no ships no army could have saved them
Anyone else remember his mission on Age of Empires 2. That game started my journey into a love of history
“Japan invaded Korea”
Japanese government and people and : *I’ll pretend I didn’t see that.*
War? What war? What do you mean Nagasaki was bombed? Look how vibrant it is!
@Shhhhh Yeah they did some BAD shit back then but so did we
The Korean invasion being discussed here refers to the Imjin War.
We need more of these Korean history!! Its not only very interesting, it shows us how Korea survived all that invasions and wars
Well under Yi it won 16 of 16 battles. It was more like "the turtle ship is a good idea, and Yi is a brilliant admiral."
The Korean Navy fared about as well as the Korean Army when not under the command of Yi.
I believe it was 26 something
It's a bit surprising this ship was not copied elsewhere or developed further. The closest type ship didn't come until the USS Monitor vs. Merrimack hundreds of years later. What an amazing innovation this was!
The Sengoku period was a very funny and interesting time. Also Yi Sun Shin deserves his own video that guy was a leviathan at sea and his rise to that point is really interesting. He’s a real patriot for his dedication to the country.
I like how excited the commenter is.
Admiral Yi was baller. There's a great Extra Credits - Extra History series on him.
Extra history is probably my 2nd favorite thing to learn history from.
Number 1 is Sabaton.
As a Korean obviously have pride in the history especially of Admiral Yi. His background is interest and I recommend anyone to look him up. I also when I’ve went to Korean not only went to a museum to see a life scale (not sure if it was real or a replica) but also went and saw the large statue of admiral Yi.
Yi life story makes Korea look bad through
extra credits will have you in tears with Yi
As Extra History said: “Turtle Ship was OP.”
Boom boom boi :)
I love Civ5 for introducing me to this. Turns out you can learn from video games, after all. Also, general Yi fought until he died, and he told his troops not to tell anyone that he was dead so that they wouldn't lose morale.
Boomer Turtle? I thought this was going to be a video about Mitch McConnell!
I am Mitch McConnell feed me Poor People
Whoever came up with that strategy is a crazy genius.
I was expecting the ship to just explode on impact but this wasn't the Japanese.
The Turtle ship had so many cool weapons
- Canons
-an Armoured spiked top
-some sources say the dragon mouth spewed some kind of weapon aswell but I can't recall what atm
It remembers me of game "dokdo" this is how max level ship looked like
The game is nice hard but nice
>japan sinks your ship
>build a turtle mech that rams japanese ship
>give japanese ship a cannonball enema
>win
in English, when a wall is on the top, we call that a "roof". good try tho
Think of watching a tv show about this like game of thrones but this battleship. Man that sounds amazing
The Korean Navy didn't win 16 out of 16 battles, they won 15 out of 16 battles and the one battle they did lose, they lost their entire navy because of their replacement admiral, Won Gyun
Norsemen/Vikings: We put a roof on our Ships and it made us unsinkable. Koreans: hold our Rice and Wine.
Korea only had a few of these turtle ships called Geobukseon. They were good but way too few to make a difference. Their role in the Imjin War is greatly exaggerated. The real reason Admiral Yi defeated the Japanese so many times was that the basic Korean navy ship Panokseon (of which they had many more) was also quite good and admiral Yi was a strategic genius and was a good leader - his forces had great morale. Geobukseon had almost no actual impact on the war.
This is incorrect. While u are right that the ships alone werent suficient reason to win outright, they definitly made a turning point, actually giving more strategical room to handle some of the few japanese advantages on sea like numbers.
@@adrianhoraciosantanavaldes1908
Battle of Myeongnyang says No.
13 normal Korean ships vs 130 Japanese Ships
Korea win
All Turtle ships were destroyed in The Won Kyon accident (also known as the Only Korean Navy defeat in the War)
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 the won kyon also was the only battle not directed by Yi. Probably why it happened. But returning to the point, what I say is that the turtle ships did have an actual impact on the war. If you take as an example only one battle to make a statement about a whole war, that took many battles, skirmishes and events to decide the outcome, then I could say that Korea is a land filled with worthless and incompetent men, which is of course incorrect, just as saying that turtle ships had no actual impact on the war.
There’s a really good comic by Onrie Kompan by the name of Yi Soon Shin. It’s a really good comic based around this war and all of the battles
If anyone wants more info on Admiral Yi , I suggest looking up Extra Credits’ series on him, it’s very good
Repeat it with me "And not a single Korean Ship was lost"
Admiral Yi is literally one of the greatest military minds of all time.
I watched the early torpedo video and can you do a video on other bombs on sticks I think it would be a great video :)
Literally EXACTLY how I play as a Stug in War Thunder😂
Is that the same period that the Koreans invented the hwacha??
Wait they where maid by koreans i thought the chinese made em
No that was a chinese invention the Koreans adopted for then most part. The turtle ships though are 100% Korean and they first ever ironclads.
@@tylerrobbins8311 tho you got the tekkousen though its a atakebune reinforced with iron so I wouldt consider the tekkousen a ironclad
@@tylerrobbins8311 thanks, unfortunately southeast Asian historical warfare wasn't focused on very much in my various educational experiences from private school, public school, home school, military training (focused more on other combat histories) and University. Sad really, I might have missed a course at the University they had a pretty diverse range of majors and electives. Too many electives got expensive even with military covering most of my School there were always those damn random costs that like books and lab fees
@@Hyper_Fox06 Ah I gotcha, honestly the reason it's not covered much is because it doesn't impact they way warfare has evolved in our modern era. Given excluding the first ironclads was odd. Japan would've completely reshaped history if not for them.
End of the day though there is a reason they focus mostly on Greek, Roman, British, and american history. History is underrated and it should get more focuse an attention, but most trim it to the barest minimum.
I recommend looking into it, particularly the Mongolian faild invasion of Vietnam as it shows the huge weakness in their logistics.
I am grateful that you showed a real life picture of one of these. That was from the military museum in Seoul South Korea. Its even cooler up close and in person! You’d need about 4-6 hours to see everything they have there on display
The fact that yi took SOOO MUCH SHIT and was demoted to the lowest military rank MULTIPLE TIMES just proves his badassnes and still kicked Japanese ass is amazing
The Leroy Jenkins approach to war. I'm glad to see the tradition is older then I thought
It's interesting, how they did the "art over practicality" by making the canons dragon faces.
Admiral Yi was literally that guy.
Little beats Big,
When Little is Smart.
First with the Head,
And then with the Heart.
Finally know why turtle ships represented korea so much
Honestly the most genius counter possible
The turtle ships were rare. Admiral Yi was just that good, even without them.
"I call this move the snapping turtle"
**rams ship and lights cannon**
"Enjoy :)"
They piloted those ships like I pilot the Jackdaw and the Morrigan in the AC games of 2014/15
Basically, they were all screaming "ram ram ram" before heading head first against the enemy
When I heard boomer turtle, I just pictured baby boomer teenage mutant ninja turtles.
Admiral Yi Sun-sin was a hero an a patriot, where he has been disregarded by the court and dishonored many time even after he stopped an invasion for his country, he just never quits being in service for his country when called for.
At severe disadvantage. Designs a completely offensive ship. Wins. Super chad move
Admiral Yi was a military genius, constantly beset on all sides by political inaction and corruption; and yet he still managed to not only save Korea but have some of the coolest ships ever created in the process.
Not gonna lie naval turtle battering ram is kinda my favorite tactic in Assassin's Creed fallowed by boarded if possible
Imagine being the first person to jump onto it thinking you could dodge the spikes.
Not to mention the literal fire breathing dragon head on top.
It was also designed to shoot noxious gas.
Admiral Yi's Ships: Better Pucker up cause I'm coming in Dry!
The weakness was prolly being flipped on its back, turtles hate that.
Age of empires Turtle Ships were UNSTOPPABLE
How dope should we make our navy vessels?
Koreans: Yes