This was a great review, and it came at the perfect time for me. I’m thinking about switching to a G9 and this lens has definitely caught my eye. I do a lot of backpacking and rock climbing, so having a simple kit is essential. Something like the 12-100 and a good wide angle would probably cover most of my bases. I was planning on doing the 8-18 2.8, 12-35 2.8 and 35-100 2.8... but I like the idea of simplifying my setup to two lenses for my extended trips.
Thank you for your review. My friend who shoots Olympus, says this 12-100 is his "go to" lens. He raves about how sharp it is. Losing the dual IS is a big item for me, especially on the lens at 100mm. In some cases I would use a tripod, but of course that's just extra gear to carry around. Personally, I have 2 Olymus M4/3rds lenses I use. The 40-150mm, and the 300mm F4. I do not use the 40-150 that much any longer, and will probably sell it soon. It has a very interesting, but fragile, build in, lens shade that can breaks very easily. In fact I do not know anyone who has this lens who has not had issues with that "built in" lens shade. However, the 300mm F4 Olympus, is by far the sharpest "Prime" M4/3rds telephoto lens, I have for my M4/3rds cameras.(plus there are Olympus tele extenders) In fact, I woud rate it up there with the new Nikkor 600mm F4, full frame, prime. In my opinion, Olympus manufactures very quality optics and their lenses are 1st class, A+. You just lose the dual IS on Panasonic Lumix cameras. The built in IS is very good in any case.
I’m a landscape photographer living in a moist place. This lens lets me hike and shoot almost everything without changing lenses. The stabilization lets me hand hold at low shutter speed to blur moving water, etc.
I have had my G9, coupled to this lens, for about 6 months now and really like it. True it could be faster, but I was switching from Canon to Panasonic to save weight and took f/4 as a compromise. It has been a great walk around/landscape lens for me enabling the somewhat wide 12mm (24mm equivalent) for the landscapes and then being useful at the longer end for wildlife, or just wanting that longer reach. It has actually surprised me at how sharp this combination can be when free-handing some bird shots, then cropping in even more during post processing. I fall for the manual clutch on the lens too. The first time I accidentally disengaged it I was confused for quite a while, and I have several times looked for the AF/MF switch on the side of the lens to disengage it. Overall I am very happy with it.
I am thinking about switching from a Canon 5DMk iv to a G9. I have the 24-70 f4 and the 70-200 f4 lenses. The G9 with 12-100 eliminates having to carry one extra lens and the lens size is smaller than my 24-70. Now that’s a compelling package!
@@normstangl3499 I still love this combination. I switched from a 5D mkii with the 24 - 105 lens, which I still use from time to time. I find I still get a kick out of the G9 where the 5D is more a tool, still works quite well but doesn't bring the smile the G9 does. The only G9 downside is the Canon's better performance in low light, but the fun factor still wins.
Legacy Oly user here, who finally moved to the G-9 and have never looked back. Paired with my personal favorite the Oly 12-40 pro lense is my default go to.
I have started using the Olympus 12-100mm f/4 Pro lens for landscape and cityscape photography mounted on an E-M1ii. I choose it over carrying my 12-40mm and 40-100mm f/2.8 Pro lenses on separate bodies, much lighter and more compact. I have seen no reduction in optical IQ and a step up in Image Stabilisation allowing me to consistently hand hold with a shutter speed of 1-second, quite an achievement as I have a strong tremor. I also carry a Lumix 7-14mm f/4 for the occasional ultra-wide shot but generally prefer to stitch a panorama with the 12-100mm if possible. For hand held night cityscapes I carry an Olympus 17mm f/1.8 for use if I cannot use a tripod. I think the 12-100mm f/4 pro makes a fantastic landscape and travel lens.
I am thinking of getting the same camera and lens. If you didn't lose the dual IS I would have bought the G9 but the Olympus is a great camera too. 12-100 F4 and 25mm f 1.2 will probably cover 90% of your video and photography needs. I would get the 40-150mm f2.8 also. It is an extremely useful lens.
A reason for constant aperture is to keep the same exposure value whilst zooming video. Lumix do run to hybrid cameras where movie shooting is a thing. Which is why the 12-35 f/2.8 and 35-100 f/2.8 are constant aperture. The "X" designator on those two (and the two PZ lenses) denotes a video lens.
@@raksh9 I no longer have a m4/3 camera. However, eventually I'd like to get a Lumix G95 but I doubt I'd buy the 12-100 for it though since the G95 would just be a lightly used second camera.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist Ah, that makes sense. I've been shooting with m43 for over five years and the 12-100mm looks like a great all-in-one lens for travel. That and a couple of fast primes and you wouldn't really need much else in a m43 setup.
For next time you review an Oly lens could you tell us which alternative Lumix lens you'd recommend? But thanks for the video, it is great to see you and Peter working together. Both Oly and Pany make excellent products. It is a strength of M43 to have two major camera companies involved.
I have used this lens on both my GH5 and EM1 lll extensively, it is such a fantastic lens in both photo and video. And I’ve got some of the best images of my career using it. Especially on the GH5, it was so well suited to that body.
Nice review, I am will be purchase one soon. You should remember to to talk about the functions on the lens, ie, function button. which does not work with Panasonic lenses.
I really like the idea of you and Peter working together to investigate cross-brand compatibility. It is a shame that Panasonic and Olympus don’t make m43 a completely open standard with seamless compatibility. On a technical note: am I correct in believing that one should also be able to use sensor-only stabilisation with a G9 with Oly lens, as an alternative to the lens-only stabilisation? Personally, I would like to find out how well Olympus flash works with Panasonic bodies. I am also interested in using the Olympus 60mm macro on a G9. It seems to be much faster at focussing than the relatively elderly Panasonic 45mm macro. As the Olympus lens has no optical stabilisation, how well does the G9 ibis perform?
Thanks for your comment. As far as I understand, those Olympus lenses (currently two) that have OIS can't use Panasonic's IBIS. Other lenses are compatible with the IBIS. I have not tested Olympus 60mm macro on the G9, so can't really say anything.
@@mattisulanto It should be that if you switch off the lens OIS, the IBIS should just works fine. At least this is what I found on my Olympus Pen F with Panasonic lenses. So you should be able to see which stabilization works best for you and just use it this way. They are just excluding each other.
In June of 2020 I purchased a new G9 with the newest firmware. I tried a few Pany lenses but returned them to the camera store - they were either wide enough but short on reach or had good reach but limited on the wide end. I then tried the Olympus 12-200mm f 3.5 - 6.3 which I liked but the zoom ring was stiff & notchy. When I returned it to the store they took out 3 more new ones for me to try. The 2nd one's zoom ring was nice and smooth. The camera place simply exchanged them. Defiantly a benefit by buying local & not on line. The 12-200 is weather sealed but hasn't any lens stabilization, but with the G9's IBS, once I press the BB focus on the camera things get real steady & the photos come out sharp - even at 200mm ( which is 400mm equ. ) I wonder if you might try this lens on your G9 & let us viewers know what you think in a video ?
I was curious as to how effective the lens optical stabilization might be standing alone since you can't take advantage of Panasonic Dual IS system with an Olympus lens. Thanks for covering that!
This might be the channel I am looking for. I shoot with an Olympus EM10 and I have two problems with Olympus. They seem to be divided between Hybrid Phase/Contrast detection with pro bodies and lower end with only contrast. They need to show me they are aggressively improving contrast detection or put phase detection in the next E-M5. Panasonic on the other hand is dedicated in making contrast DFD work well. Lack of grip on the EM10 and 5 is a bit annoying. I bought a 3rd party grip and it helps but the feel of it isn't perfect. EM5 has an optional grip that adds buttons in a better place but for the cost, you can buy G9 or G95 with a good built-in grip. When I plan on buying heavier glass, I want the body to be well balanced with a good grip. Olympus wants you to pay top dollar for good autofocus and grip, where as most every other brand at $1000 are kicking Olympus butt and Panasonic seem to have the form factor with the grip I am looking for. I am planning on buying another body next year, look forward to what you have to say. Sorry my rant is long. Thanks!
Both Olympus and Panasonic make great cameras, but there are some differences that can make it or brake it for you. I find the G9 one of the best handling cameras, compared to just about anything.
@@mattisulanto I have heard on other videos( if my memory is correct) that some Olympus lenses do not work with the Lumix cameras as far as the electronics such as the auto focus and other features don't work. Have you seen this or heard of this?
@@SteveSacramento Lumix and Oly are not 100% compatible, but there are no major incompatibilities. Many people mix and match both brands happily. I think it's better to search some user groups and see what people are saying.
Hey, you should put Amazon affiliate links in your videos! I’d love to have an easy place to look up what you’re talking about and you’ll probably be able to make a little bit of extra cash just by linking the product in the description. Thanks for the awesome videos! Keep it up! I love my Lumix G9 and I love hearing about your experiences with it as well
Thank you, this has been very insightful! I would really be interested in a comparison for the Pana-Leica 50-200mm between Olympus and Panasonic cameras. AF on my E-M5 II can hunt sometimes when trying to focus on tiny birds. Depending on the AF performance I might even buy a Panasonic camera next!
@@chrisgill4187 Thats not exactly true, it depends on the motive. My G95 performs better on stills, my em5 iii on continiues focus. Depends on what you shoot. Overall my g95 performes better and faster but i dont shoot sport.
Thanks for sharing. The motto on your teeshirt makes me smile. It's like hearing : "People who really like chocolate only eat black chocolate". Or "people who really like coffee drink it without sugar" etc... It sounds a bit snobby to me. And I wonder what were photographers in film camera time...
Thanks! Well, it's supposed to be a fun slogan😀There were mirrorless film cameras, like Leica M for example, but of course my t-shirt refers to digital.
Matti; with the recent unfortunate news about Olympus; perhaps it may be time again for you to discuss Panasonic bodies (like the G9 and hopefully a G9 replacement with Phase Auto-Focus) with existing and future Olympus lenses. Hopefully Panasonic takes advantage of its position in the MFT market and moves to entice Olympus camera users to use their lenses on current and future Panasonic camera bodies. I am and always will be a supporter of Olympus and I still believe in the MFT market. The question is simply will Olympus lenses with in lens stabilization work as well on Panasonic camera bodies.
The situation is interesting to say at least. Fortunately so far there are only two Zuikos with OIS, but of course it would be ideal, if all lenses were cross compatible. However, it can be, that Olympus and Panasonic stabilizers don't work exactly the same way and it might require a completely new firmware for Olympus lenses to be Dual IS compatible. It's good to remember, that Panasonic had to update many of their own lenses to be Dual IS compatible. So, it's well possible, that Panasonic can't make Olympus lenses Dual IS compatible even, if they wanted. I'm only guessing and can be wrong, but sometimes those things are not as simple as they look.
@@mattisulantoGeorge Bacon; understood; if you look at the various comments to this video there were a number of ideas for future Olympus lenses on Panasonic bodies you may want to consider for future videos. Encouraging Olympus users for the future should be the focus.
Hello Matti! I've got a extraneous question and maybe an offer for a future video. So, my question is... is there a big difference in terms of image quality between the g9 and gx9 models (i shoot stills only), or they have absolutely the same sensors? I'm looking to buy the gx9, and there is no good comparison videos between these models. So, maybe, if you have both cameras, it will be very nice to see a comparison video from you.
Thanks. At the moment I don't have the GX9 so unfortunately can't compare. However, I'd say the image quality is probably very similar. There is a comparison in DPR, I think your answer is there: www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-gx9/6
Hi I think you'll find that the GX9 has the sensor out of the GX8 but with the AA filter removed. It also comes with the older IBIS out of the GX8 rather than the updated version in the G9. If you look at the sensor output profiles on www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm you'll see the GX9 output is identical to the GX8 but not the G9.
The GX8 is known to exhibit a shutter shock problem, within a specific range of shutter speeds, with the Lumix 14-140mm lens in particular. It would be useful to know how it behaves with this Olympus 12-100mm f/4. Would you, kindly, comment on this?
I bought this lens to replace the Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 35 -100 mm f/2.8 Ii Asph. Power O.I.S. because 35mm was not wide enough for me, but I am still not sure that the Olympus lens is right for me. It's a big trade-off to go from f2.8 to 4, and the lack of bokeh on the Olympus is a bummer. But the range of zoom on the Olympus is awesome, the images look quite beautiful so far, but I am worried about shooting indoors, which I do for work quite often. The decision between the wide zoom range of the Olympus and the fast Lumix lens with nice bokeh is really difficult!
I own a G9 And just purchased an EMD1 Mii. I want to buy the Olympus 12-40 pro lens for the EMD. I know they are very different but l love using my PL 12-60 lens. Smaller. Lighter. Faster. Does not have the longer reach of the 12-100. For the G9 the PL is perfect. Less so for the Olympus. Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Enjoyed the video. I love this lens but it’s also worth pointing out the Olympus lens zooms in a different direction to Panasonic lenses. Having been with Panasonic through the G1, GX8, and GH2-5 it was a deal with this lens that made me buy the EM1 mk2.
Buenas tardes , una consulta, he comprado la lumix g9 ii y quería comprar el olympus 90mm f3.5 macro. Cree usted que será compatible en todas las funciones o al ser de distinta marca algo no pueda funcionar ? Muchas gracias
Nice to see you trying other options in the M43 outside the brand, anyway, as Robtrek shown in a video, keeping with the in brand lens often avoid small issues with autofocus especially in video. One question: you told about good IS in the lens, but I'd like to know if for these relative long lenses is better to keep the ibis active or switch to the lens IS when dual IS is not available. Thanks!
I own one Lumix lens and that's the 25mm f1.2 and I hardly ever use it because of the fact that it does not have a focus clutch like the Olympus Pro lenses. I use the focus clutch almost exclusively so for me the Lumix was a huge disappointment. The lens was given to me as a gift and I will keep it for that reason, but it's not really a quality product in my estimate. I wanted a fast lens for low light, but the Lumix is nearly uses in that regard because it focuses by wire. I will only buy Olympus Pro lens from now on. Anyway thanks for a good video, I always enjoy what you post.
@@mattisulanto - I have always heard the term fly by wire in regards to the type of focus ring that spins without stops so I have most likely been using the wrong terminology. What I mean to say is that with the clutch focus ring it enables me to set a distance on the lens and it will stay there. In low light situations this is very critical. I do understand however that for most people this may not be all that important, but it is for me.
Thanks for the review! Does lens OIS work generally when using them on Lumix bodies? I'm considering pairing an Olympus 100-400mm with a GH4, but GH4 has no IBIS. Will the lens OIS work on it and will the shots be usable? Thank you.
This lens is the degault lens (out of 10) when I do not have a special purpose or do not want to carry other lenses with me. And the Focus Clutch enables a real manual focus NOT by wire but directly to the interior lens system.
Such a shame you can’t turn off the lens IS and use ibis. I’ve had the lens for 6 months and now have a gh6 and would love to use the ibis instead for video
Salve complimenti per questa recensione, volevo chiederle per cortesia se l aG9 va bene per fotografare i matrimoni e se meglio in accoppiata con questa lente olimpus 12-100 oppure meglio lumix 12,35 2.8? grazie mille in anticipo per la risposta
Thanks! I think the G9 is great for weddings, but I'd get faster glass than F4. The Lumix 12-35 F2.8 would be good and if you like longer the Lumix 35-100mm F2.8 could be the second lens. A pair of fast primes like the 15mm F1.7 and the 25mm F1.4 could also do the job.
There is no Lumix or Leica pro superzoom. If I roll those karjalanpiirakka sheets any thinner, they become transparent. Remember, the picture is a close up and in close ups everything looks bigger than it really is. I use a lot of rye flour (I have fine tuned my flour mixture over the years to perfection), I roll them very thin and I don't over stuff them. Mine are very tasty and better than anything you can buy. Baking has been a hobby for me for the last 25 years and I don't claim to an expert, but I definitely know something about it😀
@@mattisulanto When I came to Finland I trained as a chef. Then one of the village mummu's thought me how to really make those piirakka's. Now you can see 7 churches through those sheets.
@@ruuddirks5565 Wow, great! However, I don't think my karjalanpiirakka needs to be any thinner. I also find that many bakers are using too much stuffing to my taste. Maybe some day I can offer you to taste mine and then you can give your opinion😀
I have the 17mm prime with the focus clutch. Great for manual focus in videos but bad at minimum focus distance and keeping focus when switching from auto to manual or other way around. It will bounce out of focus every time.
hello, thanks for your video. I have a question, would you use lens stabilisation priority or body stabilisation priority? Do you know which can get the best stabilisation if use Panasonic body but Olympus lens?
In the video I talk about the IS at 4:15 and as far as I can remember you can only use optical IS with this lens if mounted on Panasonic camera. This video is already more than three years old, I'm not a brand ambassador anymore and I don't remember any more exactly how the IS function works. I'm really sorry about that.
@@mattisulanto Thank you for your reply, I love your video, you have help me a lots with my G9 for better setting and get better result. Recently I want to buy this lens and just come up this question in mind. Thank you
Matti; please clarify for me when you get a chance; in your video you mentioned the Lumix IBIS could not use the dual-IS feature of the 12-100mm Olympus lens, did you intend to suggest that the Lumix IBIS as a result would not function or only that both the Lumix IBIS and the lens stabilization would not work together providing additional stabilization beyond that already provided by the camera body? Thanks great video, very helpful.
@@Bakin I don't think it's a significant reason. As far as I understand, there are many happy users of this combo. You'll get 5 stops of stabilization and if you mainly take photos, the IBIS is not necessary. The Dual IS is better, but I think 5 stops is pretty good still.
@@mattisulanto Thanks for the help. I have a number of Olympus lenses that I could use on a G9 if I purchased that camera in the near future. The current G9 price is very interesting.
I can't verify it right now, because I don't have the Olympus lens any more. However, I think both the Ex Tele Conv and Digital Zoom work with any lens.
There is something I don't understand here about stabilization. You say that with this lens on the G9 there is only lens stabilization, but the Lumix G9 lens page here av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/connect/g9.html says that with the G9 and this lens there is only in body stabilization. So you turn off the lens I.S and turn on the G9 body stabilization. So what is correct? I don't have either, but I'd like to know because this is a camera/lens combination I'd like to get.
More Better if you can shoot with an Olympus shooter so you can compare cross-brand lenses. I have heard DFD doesn't work on Panasonic. I would be interested in comparisons both ways.
My wish is that Panasonic and OM System colaborate more with each other. Wouldn't it be be Great If the Olympus lenses worked with dual is and the Panasonic lenses worked with sync Is.?
Thanks Matti! It would be awesome if someone could figure out how to enable dual-IS on Lumix cameras when using Olympus stabilized lenses! Could you do a video trying out some older full-frame lenses (35mm film lenses!) adapted to Lumix cameras -- with both the "dumb" adapters as well as the focal reducer/speed booster type. Thanks again! Oh, I hear that Peter is looking for that lens! :-)
I think matching those stabilizers is not easy, but would be great if someone figured it out. Thanks for your comment. Peter is on his way to get his lens😀
Olisi mielenkiintoista nähdä vertailu Olympuksen M.Zuiko ED 40-150mm F2.8 PRO linssin ja Panasonicin oman Lumix G X Vario 35-100mm f/2.8 II Power O.I.S. linssin kanssa. Miten tuo Olympus pärjää pidemmällä polttovälillä ilman omaa kuvanvakainta, kun vertaisi tuohon Panasonicissa Dual IS vakaimeen.
Great to see you reviewing Olympus lenses on the G9 ! Please do continue. How about the Olympus 12-40mm F 2.8 Pro lens? Curious to see how that performs on the G9 and compared to the Lumix Leica 12-60.
How does this lens compare to the Panasonic/Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4? As a pet photographer, I am looking for a sharp zoom lens that I can use for indoor portraits of dogs and cats during the long winters in Maine, USA, but I want one that is sharp all the way through the zoom range so that I can make large prints if that's what the customer wants. Since I use an OMD E-M1 II, I've been considering the old Olympus Zuiko 12-60 f/2.8-4 SWD pro lens for the four thirds mount (with an adapter, of course) but the testing I've seen on imaging-resource.com indicates that at f/4, which is about where I'd like to be most of the time in terms of aperture, the 12-100 is much sharper in the 40-60mm range. It's just kind of hard to justify the price of the 12-100. How does the Leica compare?
Coul you do a comparison of the Lumix 12-60mm Vs Leica 12-60mm. Is there much difference between them as I never tried the Leica version of the lens, but I really enjoy the other Leica lens offerings Lumix produce.
I have a G9, a 25 F/1.4 Panasonic, a 12-40 F/2.8 and a 75 F/1.8 Olympus. You have to know that before this combo I had a Sony A7RIII with some awesome lenses. And before the Sony, I had a Leica M. Just to say that I'm quite demanding in termes of sharpness... The 75 is the lens with the best sharpness of those 3. I wasn't expecting such a good performance mainly because of its size. It is incredibly small and light for a 150mm equivalent. And if I had to go back to a FF one day, I'll certainly keep my G9 to be able to keep this lens.
sulantoblog I haves the g9, 12-60 & the Olympus 12-100. I purchased another G9 for my wife but she wanted a lens with more reach than my P/L 12-60. I think the Olympus lens works very well with the G9 in terms of stabilization, autofocus and ergonomics. I noticed the extra 8.7 ozs but it was not anything to be concerned about. I still prefer the P/L 12-60 f2.8-4 for my use because I have found this focal range the most useful over the years with my Nikon when traveling. I also have found that the P/L 12-60’s f/2.8 at 24mm to be very useful for interior photos and I think you will need to crank the Olympus 12-100 ISO up to get enough light in some situations vs the P/L. The Olympus is constructed very well but no better than my P/L lenses. I also have the P/L 50-200 and it provides better image quality than the Olympus 12-100 and also gets the f/2.8 when I need it. My wife likes the all in one lens and I prefer the better IQ of the smaller focal range of P/L lenses. You pay your money and take your choices. It is all good. Good luck.
If one owned this lens would you be better to use IBIS or OIS for video? I am interested in this lens because I have the Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 and the 35-100mm f2.8 but sometimes I have video work that falls right in this overlap.
I double checked it today and as far as I can understand you can only use the OIS. If you turn off the OIS you have no IS at all and the stabilizer menu on the camera is grayed out. If you find out how to turn on the IBIS with this lens, please let me know.
sulantoblog I don’t doubt you. It is a bit odd. I have the Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 Pro and the Olympus 17mm f1.8. Neither of these lenses have OIS but I can use IBIS on my GH5s.
@@gcprost With Oly lenses without OIS you can use your Lumix camera's IBIS. The GH5s does not have IBIS though, it only has electronic stabilizer for video.
I am a G9 owner trying to fins a high quality super zoom! Would lika to have dual IS and have heard about the new weather sealed Panasonic 14-140/3,5-5,6. How is optical quality?
Thanks for your comment. I have not used the 14-140mm for a log time, but as far as I can remember it was a pretty decent lens. I plan to review it again, but right now I can't say exactly when. I'm sorry, but I can't give a better answer.
I just bought the G9 today retiring my em1 mark1 that died and have the Olympus 12-40 version that is weather sealed. Will it still be weather sealed with the G9?
I’ve been looking to get a OMD EM-1 M II to upgrade my little EM10 MII and now I think I might just get a G9 since the Panasonics is $400 less than the Olympus right now.... argh what to do! I have a question: whe using the g9, do you have to turn the camera's IBIS off when using the Olympus lens?
I'm not sure what you mean. The weather sealing of the lens is built into the lens and the weather sealing of the body is built into the body. There is a seal around the mount and that makes sure no moisture or dirt gets in from there.
@@mattisulanto I think he want to know if by combining Olympus weather sealed lenses on Lumix weather sealed bodies (and vice versa) the combo is still weather sealed. Will the combination of weather sealed products from the two manufacturers compromise the weather sealing of the system?
@@fabioarodrigues That's what I was trying to explain with the seal around the mount, because that's the meeting point of the two brands. The lens is what it is on any camera and vice versa.
The most unfortunate things that you are using lumix, missed out the dual/sync I.S...the sad thing to m43 is lumix and olympus they themselves are stabbing each other at the back, they should've made it compatible with both m43 body sync/dual IS. Hope OMDS aware of this and initiate the move.
Thanks for sharing. That is really sad indeed. I'm afraid OMDS is not going to initiate the move and it's not going to happen. I hope I'm wrong though.
@@mattisulanto oh that's sad news...because that's the only way they could strengthen M43, else olympus user wouldn't consider high-end leica dg, same goes to lumix users won't consider m.zuiko pro series. Like I'm using e-m1iii I'll ditch leica 100-400mm because the procapture limitation. Only H sequential, it can't support L with autofocus.
It is unfortunate that Olympus and Panasonic although sharing the same mount do not share the stabilisation features and the lens profiles from each other. Putting an Olympus lens on a Panasonic body and vice versa is always a compromise. Some "foreign" lenses work fine others do not.
@@mattisulanto I am referring to the lens opcodes embedded into the raw files. I remember a couple of years ago some m43 optics struggled on a different body. Perhaps these issues has mostly been ironed out. Using an Olympus lens on a Panasonic body you will probabely lose the DFD focussing features.
It's possible that some lenses have problems, but I've cross mounted quite a few m43 lenses over the years and never seen any bad incompatibilities. The DFD is probably lost with Olympus lenses, which is not a big deal for me, but might be for some.
At $1299 and 700 grams, A6400 + 18-135 kit is much compact and cheaper. IS capability is similar since you'd lose dual IS with a Olympus lens on G9 anyways.
Some considerations, that might be of consequence: a. The Sony 18-135mm, being an APS-C lens, is a 27-202.5mm 35mm, aka “full frame” sensor, equivalent and f/3.5-5.6 variable aperture, that is why the Olympus, which is a *constant f/4 aperture* 24-200mm equivalent lens, *with a movable focusing ring that locks by pulling it towards the camera in order to engage manual focus,* is bulkier, heavier, branded as “pro” and also, *being of much higher quality build and with robust weather sealing* [while neither the a6400 nor the 18-135 lens is even minimally weather-sealed], naturally, commands a much higher price b. Sony vs Panasonic JPEG processing c. Olympus is an optics company [with more than a century of history at that], while Sony is an electronics corporation
I have the Sony combo and the 18 to 135 is pain when shooting raw. Massive vignettes and distortions. It is very portable though. The A6400's is kind of crippled by the slow focussing 18-135. The 18-135 isn't weather sealed at all
Thank you for reviewing this combination. I own the G9 with a P/L 12-60 f/2.8-4, P/L 8-18 f/2.8-4 and Sigma 16 f/1.4. This is my travel kit and it has worked very well for me but the Olympus 12-100 would be nice for extra reach. I had been wondering what the real life stabilization difference would be between the 12-60 and this lens as well as the loss of DFD. It seems that you believe there is not much to lose in using the Oly 12-100 with the G9. I have been very pleased with the 2.8 wide end on the 12-60 for interior photos and I was wondering what you thought about the Oly 12-100 f/4 abilities to handle this scenario? As a side note I have been considering the P/L 50-100 2.8-4 as well but I would like to use the Panasonic 1.4 teleconverter with it some of the time but it is not available in the USA at this time. Is this a good combination? Thank you.
Optically there's nothing wrong with the Oly and in that regard it's fine for interiors, but you lose a stop of light of course. But then again, you may want to stop down to f/4 anyway for interiors to make sure there is enough DOF. But why would you like the Oly for that if you already have the 12-60 and 8-18?
Thanks. I can only speak for myself and I don't know how it is with other ambassadors, but in my case reviewing Olympus lenses is ok with Panasonic, because they are native m4/3 lenses.
Thank you, this has been very insightful info. I'm very curious to know is focus stacking feature available on Panasonic G9 with this lens particular ?
when these Old f/4 lenses started coming out I thought they were the dumbest lenses. Fast forward a couple years and with the G9 IBIS maximum aperture seems to be a thing of the past... and the last time I was shooting landscape I changed between the 12-35, and 35-100 dozens of times. Then I thought of this lens and instantly became much more open to the idea. Looks great but still can't justify it.
I would just prefer to keep my 14-150mm 3.5-5.6 in my bag. way compact longer range and also weather seared. Only lack is on lens stablization. But consider the price and the size. Sorry Olympus no way I m in for 12-100mm f4 pro.
The name of this review should be "Review of the Olympus 12-100 f/4 Lens". You only mention briefly at the end that the focusing on the G9 was "OK". How about continuous AF and tracking? How about face and eye detect. Focusing against different backgrounds? Low light focusing? Video focusing? Pulsating due to the contrast AF and lack of DFD? Not very helpful, I'm afraid.
Thanks for your feedback. My reviews, if you can call them reviews, probably not, are based on my style of shooting. I don't make reviews like, for example DPR, because I don't enjoy that kind of doing. I like to do my photography and review whatever gear in that context. On my channel you'll find out how a particular piece of gear worked for me. There are many channels here on RUclips that do excellent and thorough real reviews and I'm sure you'll find the info you are looking for.
Even this lens seems good, it is definitively not for me even as a non professional photographer. I don't like the focal range. I find the Pana/Leica focal ranges perfect :12-60 for traveling and 50-200 for wildlife + a fast prime if needed (low light). With this lens you can't do wildlife so why going up to 100 mm ??? It would have been much much better to do a 12-60 f2.8 Pro ! (and i would have bought an Olympus body only for that).
I think it could make a great pairing with the Lumix 100-300mm or 100-400mm zooms. Taking hikes with 2 cameras, you can then cover a huge range without changing lenses.
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This was a great review, and it came at the perfect time for me. I’m thinking about switching to a G9 and this lens has definitely caught my eye. I do a lot of backpacking and rock climbing, so having a simple kit is essential. Something like the 12-100 and a good wide angle would probably cover most of my bases. I was planning on doing the 8-18 2.8, 12-35 2.8 and 35-100 2.8... but I like the idea of simplifying my setup to two lenses for my extended trips.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for your review. My friend who shoots Olympus, says this 12-100 is his "go to" lens. He raves about how sharp it is. Losing the dual IS is a big item for me, especially on the lens at 100mm. In some cases I would use a tripod, but of course that's just extra gear to carry around. Personally, I have 2 Olymus M4/3rds lenses I use. The 40-150mm, and the 300mm F4. I do not use the 40-150 that much any longer, and will probably sell it soon. It has a very interesting, but fragile, build in, lens shade that can breaks very easily. In fact I do not know anyone who has this lens who has not had issues with that "built in" lens shade. However, the 300mm F4 Olympus, is by far the sharpest "Prime" M4/3rds telephoto lens, I have for my M4/3rds cameras.(plus there are Olympus tele extenders) In fact, I woud rate it up there with the new Nikkor 600mm F4, full frame, prime. In my opinion, Olympus manufactures very quality optics and their lenses are 1st class, A+. You just lose the dual IS on Panasonic Lumix cameras. The built in IS is very good in any case.
Thanks for sharing.
I’m a landscape photographer living in a moist place. This lens lets me hike and shoot almost everything without changing lenses. The stabilization lets me hand hold at low shutter speed to blur moving water, etc.
I'm sure it's a great lens in that kind of environment.
Dwight Jones Do you use this lens with an Olympus or Panasonic camera?
Snowwalker Olympus E-M1ii
@@dwightjones3305 I really like that camera, that or G9 is going to be the next camera unless they release a newer model soon.
This really is a fabulous lens which I cannot fault, and you gave a good review of it.
I have had my G9, coupled to this lens, for about 6 months now and really like it. True it could be faster, but I was switching from Canon to Panasonic to save weight and took f/4 as a compromise. It has been a great walk around/landscape lens for me enabling the somewhat wide 12mm (24mm equivalent) for the landscapes and then being useful at the longer end for wildlife, or just wanting that longer reach. It has actually surprised me at how sharp this combination can be when free-handing some bird shots, then cropping in even more during post processing.
I fall for the manual clutch on the lens too. The first time I accidentally disengaged it I was confused for quite a while, and I have several times looked for the AF/MF switch on the side of the lens to disengage it.
Overall I am very happy with it.
Thanks for sharing.
I am thinking about switching from a Canon 5DMk iv to a G9. I have the 24-70 f4 and the 70-200 f4 lenses. The G9 with 12-100 eliminates having to carry one extra lens and the lens size is smaller than my 24-70. Now that’s a compelling package!
@@normstangl3499 I still love this combination. I switched from a 5D mkii with the 24 - 105 lens, which I still use from time to time. I find I still get a kick out of the G9 where the 5D is more a tool, still works quite well but doesn't bring the smile the G9 does. The only G9 downside is the Canon's better performance in low light, but the fun factor still wins.
Legacy Oly user here, who finally moved to the G-9 and have never looked back. Paired with my personal favorite the Oly 12-40 pro lense is my default go to.
I have started using the Olympus 12-100mm f/4 Pro lens for landscape and cityscape photography mounted on an E-M1ii. I choose it over carrying my 12-40mm and 40-100mm f/2.8 Pro lenses on separate bodies, much lighter and more compact. I have seen no reduction in optical IQ and a step up in Image Stabilisation allowing me to consistently hand hold with a shutter speed of 1-second, quite an achievement as I have a strong tremor. I also carry a Lumix 7-14mm f/4 for the occasional ultra-wide shot but generally prefer to stitch a panorama with the 12-100mm if possible. For hand held night cityscapes I carry an Olympus 17mm f/1.8 for use if I cannot use a tripod. I think the 12-100mm f/4 pro makes a fantastic landscape and travel lens.
Sounds like my recipe in the video: the 12-100mm plus one fast prime😀 Thanks for your comment.
@@mattisulanto Yes, I agree. Thanks for your informative videos.
@@mattisulanto What your opinion about make this zoom with the Oly 25 f1.2, used all for street, landscape and travel photo.
@ Sounds like great kit to me.
I am thinking of getting the same camera and lens. If you didn't lose the dual IS I would have bought the G9 but the Olympus is a great camera too. 12-100 F4 and 25mm f 1.2 will probably cover 90% of your video and photography needs. I would get the 40-150mm f2.8 also. It is an extremely useful lens.
A reason for constant aperture is to keep the same exposure value whilst zooming video.
Lumix do run to hybrid cameras where movie shooting is a thing.
Which is why the 12-35 f/2.8 and 35-100 f/2.8 are constant aperture. The "X" designator on those two (and the two PZ lenses) denotes a video lens.
The Olympus 12-100mm and the Olympus 75mm/1.8 are my favorite lenses for my Panasonic G9
Because I am purchasing the 75 mm for my G9, your tandem above gives me reason to consider Matti's review even more of a heads up!
3 lens combination 12-200mm
With my laowa 7.5mm f2
And a prime 42.5mm or 75mm
That lens is an absolute dream. I really loved mine when I had it. It stayed glued to my GH5 :-)
Why do you no longer have that lens?
@@raksh9 I no longer have a m4/3 camera. However, eventually I'd like to get a Lumix G95 but I doubt I'd buy the 12-100 for it though since the G95 would just be a lightly used second camera.
@@ThePhotographyHobbyist Ah, that makes sense. I've been shooting with m43 for over five years and the 12-100mm looks like a great all-in-one lens for travel. That and a couple of fast primes and you wouldn't really need much else in a m43 setup.
Great review. Yes, please add other M.Zuiko lenses on G9 reviews: there are not so many available, It would be greatly useful
Thanks!
Thank you for the review.
Glad it was helpful!
For next time you review an Oly lens could you tell us which alternative Lumix lens you'd recommend? But thanks for the video, it is great to see you and Peter working together. Both Oly and Pany make excellent products. It is a strength of M43 to have two major camera companies involved.
Thanks for your input, I'll try to remember that next time.
There is none.
I have used this lens on both my GH5 and EM1 lll extensively, it is such a fantastic lens in both photo and video. And I’ve got some of the best images of my career using it. Especially on the GH5, it was so well suited to that body.
Thanks for sharing!
Will it be shaky if I shoot video?
Really useful to have Olympus lens reviews for G9 thanks and keep them coming.
Thanks!
I agree, I’d love to see you do one of the Olympus 60mm Macro lens on G9 - a super combination for close up work
This is a favorite lens of a photographer I follow, Derek Forss.
Yes, please. More of this!
What about being incompatible with DFD autofocus? Is that an important issue?
Thanks! I did not notice any issues with the AF in my style of shooting.
Nice review, I am will be purchase one soon. You should remember to to talk about the functions on the lens, ie, function button. which does not work with Panasonic lenses.
Thanks! I typically try only features that I use and forget else. Thanks for reminding.
A nice review, and I would like to see more Panasonic / Olympus combinations reviewed
Thank you, and your wish is noted.
I really like the idea of you and Peter working together to investigate cross-brand compatibility. It is a shame that Panasonic and Olympus don’t make m43 a completely open standard with seamless compatibility.
On a technical note: am I correct in believing that one should also be able to use sensor-only stabilisation with a G9 with Oly lens, as an alternative to the lens-only stabilisation?
Personally, I would like to find out how well Olympus flash works with Panasonic bodies. I am also interested in using the Olympus 60mm macro on a G9. It seems to be much faster at focussing than the relatively elderly Panasonic 45mm macro. As the Olympus lens has no optical stabilisation, how well does the G9 ibis perform?
Thanks for your comment. As far as I understand, those Olympus lenses (currently two) that have OIS can't use Panasonic's IBIS. Other lenses are compatible with the IBIS. I have not tested Olympus 60mm macro on the G9, so can't really say anything.
@@mattisulanto It should be that if you switch off the lens OIS, the IBIS should just works fine. At least this is what I found on my Olympus Pen F with Panasonic lenses. So you should be able to see which stabilization works best for you and just use it this way. They are just excluding each other.
Looking forward to your Panasonic Leica 10-25mm 1.7 review
Thanks. Me too😀 Right now my hands are full, but I try to review the 10-25mm sometime soon.
This Lens is one of the best lens for MFT! It's my fafourite lens for every day. The pictures are very charp, i love it on my G9!
Thanks for sharing.
The G9 is incredible, Panasonic has been aggressive with pricing on it compared to the Olympus EM1. My eye is also on the G95.
G95 has a fatal flaw: It is crop sensor on video, and the crop is HUGE. Wide angle is essentially impossible.
@@AlbertNurick But you know, that there are people who just want to make photos. Video is not for everybody important.
In June of 2020 I purchased a new G9 with the newest firmware. I tried a few Pany lenses but returned them to the camera store - they were either wide enough but short on reach or had good reach but limited on the wide end. I then tried the Olympus 12-200mm f 3.5 - 6.3 which I liked but the zoom ring was stiff & notchy. When I returned it to the store they took out 3 more new ones for me to try. The 2nd one's zoom ring was nice and smooth. The camera place simply exchanged them. Defiantly a benefit by buying local & not on line. The 12-200 is weather sealed but hasn't any lens stabilization, but with the G9's IBS, once I press the BB focus on the camera things get real steady & the photos come out sharp - even at 200mm ( which is 400mm equ. ) I wonder if you might try this lens on your G9 & let us viewers know what you think in a video ?
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I may try the Olympus 12-200mm, if I can borrow one easily.
Yes please Matti, happy to see you review eg. the PRO Zuiko f1.2 prime lens series with Panasonic (G9?) M43 cameras and how they perform, thanks.
Thanks! I'll see what I can do about that. I obviously have to borrow those lenses, but let's see.
I was curious as to how effective the lens optical stabilization might be standing alone since you can't take advantage of Panasonic Dual IS system with an Olympus lens. Thanks for covering that!
My pleasure!
Great video. It would be nice if you could investigate the performance of the Olympus 12-45mm Pro on the Lumix G9.
Thanks. I have investigated that on the G90, but it performs the same way on the G9 too: ruclips.net/video/zyFKsqFu_GI/видео.html
This might be the channel I am looking for.
I shoot with an Olympus EM10 and I have two problems with Olympus. They seem to be divided between Hybrid Phase/Contrast detection with pro bodies and lower end with only contrast. They need to show me they are aggressively improving contrast detection or put phase detection in the next E-M5. Panasonic on the other hand is dedicated in making contrast DFD work well. Lack of grip on the EM10 and 5 is a bit annoying. I bought a 3rd party grip and it helps but the feel of it isn't perfect. EM5 has an optional grip that adds buttons in a better place but for the cost, you can buy G9 or G95 with a good built-in grip. When I plan on buying heavier glass, I want the body to be well balanced with a good grip.
Olympus wants you to pay top dollar for good autofocus and grip, where as most every other brand at $1000 are kicking Olympus butt and Panasonic seem to have the form factor with the grip I am looking for. I am planning on buying another body next year, look forward to what you have to say. Sorry my rant is long. Thanks!
Both Olympus and Panasonic make great cameras, but there are some differences that can make it or brake it for you. I find the G9 one of the best handling cameras, compared to just about anything.
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I enjoyed this review thank you for sharing.
Thank you!
@@mattisulanto I have heard on other videos( if my memory is correct) that some Olympus lenses do not work with the Lumix cameras as far as the electronics such as the auto focus and other features don't work. Have you seen this or heard of this?
@@SteveSacramento Lumix and Oly are not 100% compatible, but there are no major incompatibilities. Many people mix and match both brands happily. I think it's better to search some user groups and see what people are saying.
Hey, you should put Amazon affiliate links in your videos! I’d love to have an easy place to look up what you’re talking about and you’ll probably be able to make a little bit of extra cash just by linking the product in the description. Thanks for the awesome videos! Keep it up! I love my Lumix G9 and I love hearing about your experiences with it as well
Thanks, those links are coming soon.
Yes, review the Pro f1.2 primes.
Good review Matti. Like you, I am not a big fan of the super zoom on MFT. I prefer a fast prime or two.
Thanks!
Thank you, this has been very insightful!
I would really be interested in a comparison for the Pana-Leica 50-200mm between Olympus and Panasonic cameras. AF on my E-M5 II can hunt sometimes when trying to focus on tiny birds. Depending on the AF performance I might even buy a Panasonic camera next!
I might review the 50-200mm lens, but I may not be able to test it on Olympus.
Kopetefish the newer Olympus like em5 iii has phase detect and its much better at this. The panasonic doesn’t offer that type of focusing
@@chrisgill4187 Thats not exactly true, it depends on the motive. My G95 performs better on stills, my em5 iii on continiues focus. Depends on what you shoot. Overall my g95 performes better and faster but i dont shoot sport.
Thanks for sharing. The motto on your teeshirt makes me smile. It's like hearing : "People who really like chocolate only eat black chocolate". Or "people who really like coffee drink it without sugar" etc... It sounds a bit snobby to me.
And I wonder what were photographers in film camera time...
Thanks! Well, it's supposed to be a fun slogan😀There were mirrorless film cameras, like Leica M for example, but of course my t-shirt refers to digital.
Matti; with the recent unfortunate news about Olympus; perhaps it may be time again for you to discuss Panasonic bodies (like the G9 and hopefully a G9 replacement with Phase Auto-Focus) with existing and future Olympus lenses. Hopefully Panasonic takes advantage of its position in the MFT market and moves to entice Olympus camera users to use their lenses on current and future Panasonic camera bodies. I am and always will be a supporter of Olympus and I still believe in the MFT market. The question is simply will Olympus lenses with in lens stabilization work as well on Panasonic camera bodies.
The situation is interesting to say at least. Fortunately so far there are only two Zuikos with OIS, but of course it would be ideal, if all lenses were cross compatible.
However, it can be, that Olympus and Panasonic stabilizers don't work exactly the same way and it might require a completely new firmware for Olympus lenses to be Dual IS compatible.
It's good to remember, that Panasonic had to update many of their own lenses to be Dual IS compatible. So, it's well possible, that Panasonic can't make Olympus lenses Dual IS compatible even, if they wanted.
I'm only guessing and can be wrong, but sometimes those things are not as simple as they look.
@@mattisulantoGeorge Bacon; understood; if you look at the various comments to this video there were a number of ideas for future Olympus lenses on Panasonic bodies you may want to consider for future videos. Encouraging Olympus users for the future should be the focus.
@@Bakin Thanks for the tip😀
Yes please - more . Thanks already.
Thanks!
Can you also test the 12-200mm OIympus lens on the G9? Thank you :)
If I can borrow the lens, I'd be happy to review it, but right now I can't promise for sure.
@@mattisulanto no worries. I appreciate you don't own every single lens.
Hello Matti! I've got a extraneous question and maybe an offer for a future video. So, my question is...
is there a big difference in terms of image quality between the g9 and gx9 models (i shoot stills only), or they have absolutely the same sensors? I'm looking to buy the gx9, and there is no good comparison videos between these models.
So, maybe, if you have both cameras, it will be very nice to see a comparison video from you.
Thanks. At the moment I don't have the GX9 so unfortunately can't compare. However, I'd say the image quality is probably very similar. There is a comparison in DPR, I think your answer is there: www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dc-gx9/6
Hi I think you'll find that the GX9 has the sensor out of the GX8 but with the AA filter removed. It also comes with the older IBIS out of the GX8 rather than the updated version in the G9. If you look at the sensor output profiles on www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm you'll see the GX9 output is identical to the GX8 but not the G9.
@@steveforde7475 The gx9 has the same sensor like g9 and gh5, not like the gx8.
Can you please review some good and budget m43 lenses? if you have those ofcrouse
I can, if I can get them. I can't buy all the lenses so I have to be able to borrow them. Could you give an example of such a lens?
The GX8 is known to exhibit a shutter shock problem, within a specific range of shutter speeds, with the Lumix 14-140mm lens in particular. It would be useful to know how it behaves with this Olympus 12-100mm f/4.
Would you, kindly, comment on this?
I used the lens only on the G9 and can't say anything about the GX8. I'm sorry I can't help you here.
I bought this lens to replace the Panasonic Lumix G X Vario 35 -100 mm f/2.8 Ii Asph. Power O.I.S. because 35mm was not wide enough for me, but I am still not sure that the Olympus lens is right for me. It's a big trade-off to go from f2.8 to 4, and the lack of bokeh on the Olympus is a bummer. But the range of zoom on the Olympus is awesome, the images look quite beautiful so far, but I am worried about shooting indoors, which I do for work quite often. The decision between the wide zoom range of the Olympus and the fast Lumix lens with nice bokeh is really difficult!
Thanks for sharing. It's always a trade off, one way or the other😀
I own a G9 And just purchased an EMD1 Mii. I want to buy the Olympus 12-40 pro lens for the EMD. I know they are very different but l love using my PL 12-60 lens. Smaller. Lighter. Faster. Does not have the longer reach of the 12-100. For the G9 the PL is perfect. Less so for the Olympus.
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Thanks so much for sharing.
Enjoyed the video. I love this lens but it’s also worth pointing out the Olympus lens zooms in a different direction to Panasonic lenses. Having been with Panasonic through the G1, GX8, and GH2-5 it was a deal with this lens that made me buy the EM1 mk2.
Good point and thanks for bringing that up.
Buenas tardes , una consulta, he comprado la lumix g9 ii y quería comprar el olympus 90mm f3.5 macro.
Cree usted que será compatible en todas las funciones o al ser de distinta marca algo no pueda funcionar ? Muchas gracias
Nice to see you trying other options in the M43 outside the brand, anyway, as Robtrek shown in a video, keeping with the in brand lens often avoid small issues with autofocus especially in video. One question: you told about good IS in the lens, but I'd like to know if for these relative long lenses is better to keep the ibis active or switch to the lens IS when dual IS is not available. Thanks!
With long lenses OIS is better than IBIS, but with Olympus lenses you don't even have a choice, the IBIS is not available. It's the OIS or nothing.
I own one Lumix lens and that's the 25mm f1.2 and I hardly ever use it because of the fact that it does not have a focus clutch like the Olympus Pro lenses. I use the focus clutch almost exclusively so for me the Lumix was a huge disappointment. The lens was given to me as a gift and I will keep it for that reason, but it's not really a quality product in my estimate. I wanted a fast lens for low light, but the Lumix is nearly uses in that regard because it focuses by wire. I will only buy Olympus Pro lens from now on. Anyway thanks for a good video, I always enjoy what you post.
The MF clutch is nice, but it's also fly by wire.
I meant a 25mm f1.4
@@mattisulanto - I have always heard the term fly by wire in regards to the type of focus ring that spins without stops so I have most likely been using the wrong terminology. What I mean to say is that with the clutch focus ring it enables me to set a distance on the lens and it will stay there. In low light situations this is very critical. I do understand however that for most people this may not be all that important, but it is for me.
@@geraldbraun6267 Sure, the focus scale is very nice.
Thanks for the review!
Does lens OIS work generally when using them on Lumix bodies? I'm considering pairing an Olympus 100-400mm with a GH4, but GH4 has no IBIS.
Will the lens OIS work on it and will the shots be usable?
Thank you.
I have no experience with the Olympus 100-400mm, so I can’t say much. I think the OIS will work fine, but have never tried it.
@@mattisulanto Thank you so much!
This lens is the degault lens (out of 10) when I do not have a special purpose or do not want to carry other lenses with me.
And the Focus Clutch enables a real manual focus NOT by wire but directly to the interior lens system.
The focus clutch is also focus by wire, but it feels almost like a real mechanical focus.
Such a shame you can’t turn off the lens IS and use ibis. I’ve had the lens for 6 months and now have a gh6 and would love to use the ibis instead for video
That's how Olympus/OMDS and Panasonic have decided. It really is a shame that they did not make the system 100% cross compatible from the start.
@@mattisulanto yeah it is a shame. I still use it a lot on my GH5S and for photos though. Shame Panasonic haven’t got an equivalent lens
Salve complimenti per questa recensione, volevo chiederle per cortesia se l aG9 va bene per fotografare i matrimoni e se meglio in accoppiata con questa lente olimpus 12-100 oppure meglio lumix 12,35 2.8? grazie mille in anticipo per la risposta
Thanks! I think the G9 is great for weddings, but I'd get faster glass than F4. The Lumix 12-35 F2.8 would be good and if you like longer the Lumix 35-100mm F2.8 could be the second lens. A pair of fast primes like the 15mm F1.7 and the 25mm F1.4 could also do the job.
Does Panasonic have any pro superzooms? I couldn't find them. And as a side note; the piirakka sheets should be much thinner. ;)
There is no Lumix or Leica pro superzoom.
If I roll those karjalanpiirakka sheets any thinner, they become transparent. Remember, the picture is a close up and in close ups everything looks bigger than it really is. I use a lot of rye flour (I have fine tuned my flour mixture over the years to perfection), I roll them very thin and I don't over stuff them. Mine are very tasty and better than anything you can buy.
Baking has been a hobby for me for the last 25 years and I don't claim to an expert, but I definitely know something about it😀
@@mattisulanto When I came to Finland I trained as a chef. Then one of the village mummu's thought me how to really make those piirakka's. Now you can see 7 churches through those sheets.
@@ruuddirks5565 Wow, great! However, I don't think my karjalanpiirakka needs to be any thinner. I also find that many bakers are using too much stuffing to my taste. Maybe some day I can offer you to taste mine and then you can give your opinion😀
@@mattisulanto deal
I have the 17mm prime with the focus clutch. Great for manual focus in videos but bad at minimum focus distance and keeping focus when switching from auto to manual or other way around. It will bounce out of focus every time.
Do you need an adapter to fit Olympus lenses for Panasonic mirrorless camera body?
No, both use the same mount.
hello, thanks for your video. I have a question, would you use lens stabilisation priority or body stabilisation priority? Do you know which can get the best stabilisation if use Panasonic body but Olympus lens?
In the video I talk about the IS at 4:15 and as far as I can remember you can only use optical IS with this lens if mounted on Panasonic camera. This video is already more than three years old, I'm not a brand ambassador anymore and I don't remember any more exactly how the IS function works. I'm really sorry about that.
@@mattisulanto Thank you for your reply, I love your video, you have help me a lots with my G9 for better setting and get better result. Recently I want to buy this lens and just come up this question in mind. Thank you
Matti; please clarify for me when you get a chance; in your video you mentioned the Lumix IBIS could not use the dual-IS feature of the 12-100mm Olympus lens, did you intend to suggest that the Lumix IBIS as a result would not function or only that both the Lumix IBIS and the lens stabilization would not work together providing additional stabilization beyond that already provided by the camera body? Thanks great video, very helpful.
You'll get the lens stabilizer, but not the IBIS. In the video from about 4:15.
@@mattisulanto Do you agree that this would seem to be a significant reason not to use Olympus lenses on the Lumix G9?
@@Bakin I don't think it's a significant reason. As far as I understand, there are many happy users of this combo. You'll get 5 stops of stabilization and if you mainly take photos, the IBIS is not necessary. The Dual IS is better, but I think 5 stops is pretty good still.
@@mattisulanto Thanks for the help. I have a number of Olympus lenses that I could use on a G9 if I purchased that camera in the near future. The current G9 price is very interesting.
@@Bakin Yes, the price is very good right now.
Can you use the 4x video zoom in the g9 and gh5 with the 12-100mm
I can't verify it right now, because I don't have the Olympus lens any more.
However, I think both the Ex Tele Conv and Digital Zoom work with any lens.
@@mattisulanto thanks
My son is here for the week he can help me
he move from g9 to s5
Hi Matti, thanks for your videos. How is the barrel distortion when paired with the G9?
Thanks! Corrected in camera and in some RAW developers, like Lightroom. I have not tested how the uncorrected looks.
Please review Olympus 150-400 f/4 pro on G9🙏🙏
I'd love to, but that lens is almost impossible to get a hold of and I certainly can't buy it for a review. However, I will review it if I only can.
There is something I don't understand here about stabilization. You say that with this lens on the G9 there is only lens stabilization, but the Lumix G9 lens page here av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/connect/g9.html says that with the G9 and this lens there is only in body stabilization. So you turn off the lens I.S and turn on the G9 body stabilization. So what is correct? I don't have either, but I'd like to know because this is a camera/lens combination I'd like to get.
Please, take another look, in that table it says lens only and that is correct.
@@mattisulanto You're right - I was reading the wrong lens.
Is this mandatory to make focus with the clutch ? Or can we focus with the body camera ?
I'm afraid I don't understand your question.
@@mattisulanto I’m sorry. Does the AF works with this lens ?
@@neytzhpz3971 Did you watch the video at all? I talk about the AF in the video. Please watch at 4:00.
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Better if you can shoot with an Olympus shooter so you can compare cross-brand lenses. I have heard DFD doesn't work on Panasonic. I would be interested in comparisons both ways.
I'll see what I can do.
My wish is that Panasonic and OM System colaborate more with each other. Wouldn't it be be Great If the Olympus lenses worked with dual is and the Panasonic lenses worked with sync Is.?
That would be really good.
Thanks Matti! It would be awesome if someone could figure out how to enable dual-IS on Lumix cameras when using Olympus stabilized lenses! Could you do a video trying out some older full-frame lenses (35mm film lenses!) adapted to Lumix cameras -- with both the "dumb" adapters as well as the focal reducer/speed booster type. Thanks again! Oh, I hear that Peter is looking for that lens! :-)
I think matching those stabilizers is not easy, but would be great if someone figured it out. Thanks for your comment. Peter is on his way to get his lens😀
Olisi mielenkiintoista nähdä vertailu Olympuksen M.Zuiko ED 40-150mm F2.8 PRO linssin ja Panasonicin oman Lumix G X Vario 35-100mm f/2.8 II Power O.I.S. linssin kanssa.
Miten tuo Olympus pärjää pidemmällä polttovälillä ilman omaa kuvanvakainta, kun vertaisi tuohon Panasonicissa Dual IS vakaimeen.
Kiitos kommentista, katsotaan onko tuollainen vertailu mahdollinen.
Great to see you reviewing Olympus lenses on the G9 ! Please do continue. How about the Olympus 12-40mm F 2.8 Pro lens? Curious to see how that performs on the G9 and compared to the Lumix Leica 12-60.
Thanks for your comment and your wishes are noted.
How does this lens compare to the Panasonic/Leica 12-60mm f/2.8-4? As a pet photographer, I am looking for a sharp zoom lens that I can use for indoor portraits of dogs and cats during the long winters in Maine, USA, but I want one that is sharp all the way through the zoom range so that I can make large prints if that's what the customer wants. Since I use an OMD E-M1 II, I've been considering the old Olympus Zuiko 12-60 f/2.8-4 SWD pro lens for the four thirds mount (with an adapter, of course) but the testing I've seen on imaging-resource.com indicates that at f/4, which is about where I'd like to be most of the time in terms of aperture, the 12-100 is much sharper in the 40-60mm range. It's just kind of hard to justify the price of the 12-100. How does the Leica compare?
Coul you do a comparison of the Lumix 12-60mm Vs Leica 12-60mm. Is there much difference between them as I never tried the Leica version of the lens, but I really enjoy the other Leica lens offerings Lumix produce.
It's a good idea, thanks.
Can you review olympus 75mm 1.8 on the G9 along with the 45mm prime that would be nice. Thanks for the pro review of 12 to 100 lens very helpful.
Thanks! I’ll see if I can get those lenses for a review.
I have a G9, a 25 F/1.4 Panasonic, a 12-40 F/2.8 and a 75 F/1.8 Olympus. You have to know that before this combo I had a Sony A7RIII with some awesome lenses. And before the Sony, I had a Leica M. Just to say that I'm quite demanding in termes of sharpness...
The 75 is the lens with the best sharpness of those 3. I wasn't expecting such a good performance mainly because of its size. It is incredibly small and light for a 150mm equivalent. And if I had to go back to a FF one day, I'll certainly keep my G9 to be able to keep this lens.
Is there any comparison of the 12-100 contra the panaleica 12-60?
I just switched from E-M1.1 to a G9. So I think about exchanging my 12-100.
There's no such comparison here, but there might be elsewhere on RUclips.
sulantoblog I haves the g9, 12-60 & the Olympus 12-100. I purchased another G9 for my wife but she wanted a lens with more reach than my P/L 12-60. I think the Olympus lens works very well with the G9 in terms of stabilization, autofocus and ergonomics. I noticed the extra 8.7 ozs but it was not anything to be concerned about. I still prefer the P/L 12-60 f2.8-4 for my use because I have found this focal range the most useful over the years with my Nikon when traveling. I also have found that the P/L 12-60’s f/2.8 at 24mm to be very useful for interior photos and I think you will need to crank the Olympus 12-100 ISO up to get enough light in some situations vs the P/L. The Olympus is constructed very well but no better than my P/L lenses. I also have the P/L 50-200 and it provides better image quality than the Olympus 12-100 and also gets the f/2.8 when I need it. My wife likes the all in one lens and I prefer the better IQ of the smaller focal range of P/L lenses. You pay your money and take your choices. It is all good. Good luck.
@@garydubberly6608 thank you very much for your great comparison.
If one owned this lens would you be better to use IBIS or OIS for video? I am interested in this lens because I have the Panasonic 12-35mm f2.8 and the 35-100mm f2.8 but sometimes I have video work that falls right in this overlap.
Thanks for your comment. As I mention in the video at around 4:30, you can only use the OIS with this lens.
I think you’re wrong. You can use IBIS if you turn off the OIS.
I double checked it today and as far as I can understand you can only use the OIS. If you turn off the OIS you have no IS at all and the stabilizer menu on the camera is grayed out. If you find out how to turn on the IBIS with this lens, please let me know.
sulantoblog I don’t doubt you. It is a bit odd. I have the Olympus 12-40mm f2.8 Pro and the Olympus 17mm f1.8. Neither of these lenses have OIS but I can use IBIS on my GH5s.
@@gcprost With Oly lenses without OIS you can use your Lumix camera's IBIS. The GH5s does not have IBIS though, it only has electronic stabilizer for video.
I am a G9 owner trying to fins a high quality super zoom! Would lika to have dual IS and have heard about the new weather sealed Panasonic 14-140/3,5-5,6. How is optical quality?
Thanks for your comment. I have not used the 14-140mm for a log time, but as far as I can remember it was a pretty decent lens. I plan to review it again, but right now I can't say exactly when. I'm sorry, but I can't give a better answer.
I just bought the G9 today retiring my em1 mark1 that died and have the Olympus 12-40 version that is weather sealed. Will it still be weather sealed with the G9?
I would think so, because both the lens and the camera bode are sealed.
Will it be shaky if I shoot video with g9?
It doesn't shake by itself and the rest depends on how you use it.
I’ve been looking to get a OMD EM-1 M II to upgrade my little EM10 MII and now I think I might just get a G9 since the Panasonics is $400 less than the Olympus right now.... argh what to do! I have a question: whe using the g9, do you have to turn the camera's IBIS off when using the Olympus lens?
You have a problem😀
If you own a number of Olympus lenses you are best to stay with Olympus camera
Can you do the G9 with 40-150 f2.8 pro, if you please :)
I may do that in the future.
Does the weather sealing still work with this lens??
I'm not sure what you mean. The weather sealing of the lens is built into the lens and the weather sealing of the body is built into the body. There is a seal around the mount and that makes sure no moisture or dirt gets in from there.
@@mattisulanto I think he want to know if by combining Olympus weather sealed lenses on Lumix weather sealed bodies (and vice versa) the combo is still weather sealed. Will the combination of weather sealed products from the two manufacturers compromise the weather sealing of the system?
@@fabioarodrigues That's what I was trying to explain with the seal around the mount, because that's the meeting point of the two brands. The lens is what it is on any camera and vice versa.
The most unfortunate things that you are using lumix, missed out the dual/sync I.S...the sad thing to m43 is lumix and olympus they themselves are stabbing each other at the back, they should've made it compatible with both m43 body sync/dual IS. Hope OMDS aware of this and initiate the move.
Thanks for sharing. That is really sad indeed. I'm afraid OMDS is not going to initiate the move and it's not going to happen. I hope I'm wrong though.
@@mattisulanto oh that's sad news...because that's the only way they could strengthen M43, else olympus user wouldn't consider high-end leica dg, same goes to lumix users won't consider m.zuiko pro series. Like I'm using e-m1iii I'll ditch leica 100-400mm because the procapture limitation. Only H sequential, it can't support L with autofocus.
@@yan870126 What I wrote is only my opinion, not a fact, but I'm afraid I'm right on this.
It is unfortunate that Olympus and Panasonic although sharing the same mount do not share the stabilisation features and the lens profiles from each other. Putting an Olympus lens on a Panasonic body and vice versa is always a compromise. Some "foreign" lenses work fine others do not.
What do you mean by lens profiles? All the corrections are done on both systems and on all Pana and Oly lenses.
@@mattisulanto I am referring to the lens opcodes embedded into the raw files. I remember a couple of years ago some m43 optics struggled on a different body. Perhaps these issues has mostly been ironed out. Using an Olympus lens on a Panasonic body you will probabely lose the DFD focussing features.
It's possible that some lenses have problems, but I've cross mounted quite a few m43 lenses over the years and never seen any bad incompatibilities. The DFD is probably lost with Olympus lenses, which is not a big deal for me, but might be for some.
have you done a 12-35 vs 12-40 yet?
No, not yet.
At $1299 and 700 grams, A6400 + 18-135 kit is much compact and cheaper. IS capability is similar since you'd lose dual IS with a Olympus lens on G9 anyways.
Yes, there are many cheaper options available.
Some considerations, that might be of consequence:
a. The Sony 18-135mm, being an APS-C lens, is a 27-202.5mm 35mm, aka “full frame” sensor, equivalent and f/3.5-5.6 variable aperture, that is why the Olympus, which is a *constant f/4 aperture* 24-200mm equivalent lens, *with a movable focusing ring that locks by pulling it towards the camera in order to engage manual focus,* is bulkier, heavier, branded as “pro” and also, *being of much higher quality build and with robust weather sealing* [while neither the a6400 nor the 18-135 lens is even minimally weather-sealed], naturally, commands a much higher price
b. Sony vs Panasonic JPEG processing
c. Olympus is an optics company [with more than a century of history at that], while Sony is an electronics corporation
I have the Sony combo and the 18 to 135 is pain when shooting raw. Massive vignettes and distortions.
It is very portable though. The A6400's is kind of crippled by the slow focussing 18-135. The 18-135 isn't weather sealed at all
Hi. Does the dual is work?
Dual stabilizer? It only works with compatible Lumix/Leica lenses.
Thank you for reviewing this combination. I own the G9 with a P/L 12-60 f/2.8-4, P/L 8-18 f/2.8-4 and Sigma 16 f/1.4. This is my travel kit and it has worked very well for me but the Olympus 12-100 would be nice for extra reach. I had been wondering what the real life stabilization difference would be between the 12-60 and this lens as well as the loss of DFD. It seems that you believe there is not much to lose in using the Oly 12-100 with the G9. I have been very pleased with the 2.8 wide end on the 12-60 for interior photos and I was wondering what you thought about the Oly 12-100 f/4 abilities to handle this scenario? As a side note I have been considering the P/L 50-100 2.8-4 as well but I would like to use the Panasonic 1.4 teleconverter with it some of the time but it is not available in the USA at this time. Is this a good combination? Thank you.
Optically there's nothing wrong with the Oly and in that regard it's fine for interiors, but you lose a stop of light of course. But then again, you may want to stop down to f/4 anyway for interiors to make sure there is enough DOF. But why would you like the Oly for that if you already have the 12-60 and 8-18?
Your video quality has been steadily climbing : )
Thank you, good to hear that, but then again, if I was not improving at all, I might as well do something else😀
Will you review the pana 100~400 when using in EM1ii ?
I may review the lens on Lumix camera, but not likely on Olympus.
Did you have any experiences to share about Pana 100~400 zoom lens with omd em1 ii ?
Unfortunately no, but I understand it should be a fine combination.
@@mattisulanto thanks
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you. I’m curious - how does Panasonic feel about one of their ambassadors using Olympus lenses?
Thanks. I can only speak for myself and I don't know how it is with other ambassadors, but in my case reviewing Olympus lenses is ok with Panasonic, because they are native m4/3 lenses.
Thank you, this has been very insightful info.
I'm very curious to know is focus stacking feature available on Panasonic G9 with this lens particular ?
Thanks! I have to say I did not test the focus stacking, but I would think it works.
how is the OIS performs of this lens if I use it on LUMIX?
Did you watch the video? It’s an old video, but if I remember correctly I share some comments on the stabilizer.
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Can you use Olympus 2x teleconverter on Panasonic g9
I have not tried, but I would think so. However, Oly TC is not compatible with Panasonic/Leica lenses.
Real photographers shoot however they like.
when these Old f/4 lenses started coming out I thought they were the dumbest lenses. Fast forward a couple years and with the G9 IBIS maximum aperture seems to be a thing of the past... and the last time I was shooting landscape I changed between the 12-35, and 35-100 dozens of times. Then I thought of this lens and instantly became much more open to the idea. Looks great but still can't justify it.
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I wish, leica-lumix would clone this lens someday
I would just prefer to keep my 14-150mm 3.5-5.6 in my bag. way compact longer range and also weather seared. Only lack is on lens stablization. But consider the price and the size. Sorry Olympus no way I m in for 12-100mm f4 pro.
The name of this review should be "Review of the Olympus 12-100 f/4 Lens". You only mention briefly at the end that the focusing on the G9 was "OK". How about continuous AF and tracking? How about face and eye detect. Focusing against different backgrounds? Low light focusing? Video focusing? Pulsating due to the contrast AF and lack of DFD? Not very helpful, I'm afraid.
Thanks for your feedback. My reviews, if you can call them reviews, probably not, are based on my style of shooting. I don't make reviews like, for example DPR, because I don't enjoy that kind of doing. I like to do my photography and review whatever gear in that context. On my channel you'll find out how a particular piece of gear worked for me. There are many channels here on RUclips that do excellent and thorough real reviews and I'm sure you'll find the info you are looking for.
Even this lens seems good, it is definitively not for me even as a non professional photographer. I don't like the focal range.
I find the Pana/Leica focal ranges perfect :12-60 for traveling and 50-200 for wildlife + a fast prime if needed (low light).
With this lens you can't do wildlife so why going up to 100 mm ??? It would have been much much better to do a 12-60 f2.8 Pro ! (and i would have bought an Olympus body only for that).
I think it could make a great pairing with the Lumix 100-300mm or 100-400mm zooms. Taking hikes with 2 cameras, you can then cover a huge range without changing lenses.
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The lens costs more than the camera!
True, but many lenses cost more than a camera and a good lens will probably be with you longer than a camera body.