Lucifer Explained: The Origin and Meaning Behind this Fallen Angel
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- Where does Lucifer, the fallen angel, REALLY come from? Aside from Paradise Lost by John Milton, or Fox’s TV series of the same name, the Bible is the best bet. Or so you’d think. This video explains the origins of this fallen angel. “Lucifer” is only mentioned once in the Bible, in Isaiah 14:12. But in the original Hebrew, the word “Lucifer” is absent. In its place, we have “helel ben shahar” which means “shining one, son of morning”, a Hebrew word for the morning star, the planet Venus.
Somehow the planet Venus became associated with the Devil, and that has much to do with the book of Enoch. A book that features a fallen angel who is kicked out of heaven. Over time, early Christians and Jews came to see Isaiah 14:12 as a veiled reference to a fallen angel. And so, Lucifer (the Latin word for morning star) was born, and became associated with Satan, the Devil, Beezebub and so on…
I hope that I haven’t made this too convoluted or unapproachable. The story behind how Lucifer itself is pretty complex as it involves delving into ancient languages that can throw lots of people off. Including me! I’m always looking for ways to improve my videos, so let me know your thoughts.
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Hochelaga, the Bible is not about planets, it mentions angels. Lucifer is literal name of the first angel of God, which means Light bearer, or the Shining one. In Hebrew text it's Heylel, whereas in Latin translation it's been translated as Lucifer. Isaiah was not suddenly insane to compare a fallen king to a planet, especially when the planet Venus disn't ever fall or burned up by sun.
So there are three devils in Bible now? Old serpent, samyaza and samael, right? Or are there more of these devils?
@@abhishekconstantinewinches9907
keep your theories to yourself. In past it was a common practice to compare people with cosmic bodies and abstract ideas and even numbers. Lucifer was never written by the original auther so it's not even any devil's name and the word Lucifer is also refers to Jesus in Bible. Helel bin Shahar is a title that Babylonian king held at that time so it made sense to call him that. In Bible the Beast is not an actual beast or a demonic entity, it's referring to the king of Rome Nero who killed lots of Christians and whose name equated to 666, money was printed in his name so no one could buy or sell without his mark on their forehead as they had to kiss the coins and then touch those coins on their forehead (symbolising mark on their forehead). Angels in Bible look like monsters and the Old Serpent was actually a Seraphim who became a devil later. The Nephelims were not Giants, the word used in Hebrew is Gigantus which means earth born. I know that you know nothing about these things, as you are an Indian and you don't know Hebrew, you have to rely on the third class Evangelical missionaries who can't even teach you anything properly, so then go on about making your own denomination.
@@braindeveloperdimensional5579, you're talking to a Catholic catechist. Samyaza was another angel who was mentioned in 1 Enoch, who came down on earth to marry human daughters in Genesis 6:4. Devil fell on earth when there was no man. Samael is not Heylel, they are different. Serpent in Genesis 3 is the devil, who is mentioned again in Revelation 12. Read your Bible again and then come here to comment on scriptures.
@@braindeveloperdimensional5579, attend Sunday school, read you Bible, morning stars have been mentioned many times in the Bible. They are high rank angels, probably Cherubim. Read Job 38:7.
I'm assuming that "the most beautiful angel" must have meant the ones with the most eyes and mouths
@John Smith God's throne is a wheel chair?
@John Smith So it's an office chair.
@John Smith God can swivel in any direction he pleases or roll at your with infinity speed.
Sounds like an office chair.
@@scottbruckner4653 LMFAO
Why are you guys making physical comparison to actual figurative, subjective, enigmatic, metaphorically, philosophic, with even a forgot alphabet which the meaning of these words doesn't mean the same thing from every 1000 years. Even the last decade of 90s doesn't mean the same to the 2000s to 2010s to 2020s
I feel like this channel is what church is actually suppose to be like. Helping people understand the texts and removing the confusion rather than a big guilt or shame fest. It's such a beautiful thing when understood.
Then the money would stop flowing
Never forget that the church is a method of control, not a place of study or worship.
@@gpliskin I believe in this, “god” but i’m having doubts.. none of them are answered, i’ll keep faith...
You see church isn’t meant to be like that my guy because if it is for you then you’re not going to a good church....
We are all guilty of sin but we shouldn’t be making people feel guilt,making it a shame fest , or making it on who is the most obedient but a lot of humans fall short of understanding that .
It's so fascinating to grow up religious (in my case, Mormon) and finally, as an adult, see a lot the doctrine of Judaism and Christianity put into actual historical context with the real documents and the comparisons to other neighboring cultures and mythologies of that time period. So many of these stories now feel like actual history and mythologies (like Greek, Roman, or Egyptian) instead of these weird legends that I was constantly told to believe in as a kid.
The Book of life is actually explaining
the good and evil that people do.
Archaeologists a Linguists and Scientists help with the understandings of the world around us. When you view life as a learning
experience you begin to
understand the beauty and complexity of our existence.
The spiritual part of people is based
on religion although not always
experienced because of religion..
@@nick28116?
Don't trust psychiatry, they are merely a branch of the law, to keep order and hide away embarrassment.
@@nick28116no
The 48 laws of power
I wish you could’ve mentioned more about the history of the Devil, it’s so interesting! Now, the actual figure of Satan doesn’t appear much in the Hebrew Bible. In fact, whenever the word is used, it is normally the translation of the Hebrew word “śāṭān” meaning “adversary”. Normally, this word would be used to describe any type of adversary, whether human or supernatural, and a lot of the time in the Hebrew Bible, it is often used to describe human adversaries. However, in the later books of the Hebrew Bible, specifically in the books of Job and Zechariah, it refers to a specific supernatural entity. We can identify this entity by when the word śāṭān is accompanied by a definite article, which turns it into “ha-śāṭān” or “the adversary”. This form of Satan occurs 17 times in the Masoretic Text, in the books of Job and Zechariah. In Job, Ha-Śāṭān continuously tests Job’s faith in God by torturing him, and in The Book of Zechariah, Zechariah is shown having a vision about Joshua the High Priest being prosecuted by Ha-Śāṭān. Curiously, in much of the Hebrew Bible, this figure is shown not as an enemy of God but as his servant, usually testing people’s faith, and it is mostly this image that can be found in modern-day Judaism.
However, during the Second-Temple period, when Jews were living in the Persian Empire, Judaism started to be heavily influenced by Zoroastrianism, and because of this, the figure of the Devil started to form. In case you don’t know, Zoroastrianism was an ancient Persian religion, and had elements of both monotheism and dualism, and is considered to be one of the oldest monotheistic religions. In Zoroastrian belief, there is the good God, or Ahura Mazda, and his opposer Angra Mainyu, the evil spirit of darkness and evil, and the first fully fleshed out idea of God’s opposer is, of course, in the Book of Enoch, which the video already explains. Although, because the Book of Enoch is not considered Biblical canon, it wasn’t included in the formation of the Hebrew Bible. However, the Enoch story and the new figure of Satan is what laid the basis for his character in the two following religions; Christianity and Islam.
Its funny Venus started all of this, and thousands of years later we discover it literally looks like Hell.
COINCIDENCE?!
And they say women are from venus..🤔🤔🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@@martinmizfitcruz4975
IT'S A CONSPIRACY, MAN!
@@martinmizfitcruz4975 They couldn't be more right!
Aaaaand there might be life on it.
Religious or not, the Bible has the coolest lore.
Yes, but with the book of enoch. Without that book it seems dull compared to older religions of the time.
I'll always love Odysseyous, over anything in the bible.
If you read it like a story book it is quite fun
Naaahhhh you should study Ancient Greek mythology, it's mad as fuck.
@@jedaaa half the problems came from Zeus who couldn't keep his pants on lol
But yeah, honestly the Bible has some deep and cool shit in it other than the religious things, the martyrs are either so badass or tragic
So I'm not religious at all, and I love these videos connection and explaining all of this. From a history and curiosity standpoint your videos are great and I love watching your content.
It's not my business but my hope is to help anyone I can that is struggling with religion its my hope that through my suffering someone might be saved I struggled to know what to believe as well I swear I am of sound mind and without lies only the unfortunate truth of the mark of the beast and the reality of the devil talked about in the Bible I'm here to bare my testimony to the reality of Satan and how evil he really is he has power over a spiritual realm wich he uses to control dreams that he uses to defile you with sin his sole purpose is to accuse you in front of God he uses confusion and lies to affect your faith he uses your weaknesses against you he has the ability to look like your friends and family members his joy is to know you're gonna spend eternity in a bottomless pit alone remember your creator before the silver cord is severed believe the profits in the Bible call on jehova and Jesus exercise faith and repentance in Jesus name God bless you I hope this sparks in you the desire to know God I pray he keeps your soul and this evil never befalls you
@@roberttrumanreed7016 I see you no doubt copy and paste this. But a little tid bit from me: not everyone needs religion, it won't solve any real world problems, it won't put food on the table, it won't help pay the bills, it doesn't really make life bearable either. Just talk to a person like a normal decent human being, if religion comes up, great have a chat about it, but when the subject change, change with it, but otherwise don't force it on someone (the Bible explicitly states that you should never be forceful in getting people to believe in God, that it must be done on their own will). Also you may want to go through your reply and figure out punctuation's, it makes what you wrote difficult to read. Also don't blame the devil for every bad decision or action you ever made, take responsibility like a decent modern day human being.
I love angels even though I don't believe in them lol true story
@@Buddz69 ligma balls
@@roberttrumanreed7016 ligma balls
Now it starts to make sense. There's a saying in the Latin community "Hijo de la Manana" wich my parents used to refer to when chastising a person or a bad situation. That translates into "Son of the Morning". I never understood it till now. Thank you.
"In today's terms, that's the equivalent of being a sort of Bible fanfiction"
Best part of the video.
Not exactly accurate though. It's projecting current religious belief on the religion of the time, when Enoch was a central pillar of belief.
Funny, but incorrect, as it arbitrarily distinguishes between “true new testament books” and “fan fiction” - so if we look at the whole bible, new and old testament, there are many such arbitrary choices between “official” and “unofficial” - that is without stacked translation errors etc added on top. That history, editing and translating makes these books a very human affair.
honestly pretty much anything written by someone claiming themselves to be a 'prophet' or any contemporary of Yeshua (y'all call him Jesus nowadays, despite that name being completely wrong) was considered 'canon' back then
finally the church convened the Council of Nicea where they debated and argued until they'd finally settled on an official canon, and everything else got chucked out as apocryphal, including the Book of Enoch - probably because it involved too much mysticism for their tastes... it's effectively the christian equivalent of the judaic Kabbalah, and includes ways to summon and bind spirits and the names of secret angels, and sigils supposedly used by god himself
one of the most famous (by which i mean often-seen, not commonly known about) is the Sigilum Dei Ameth - if you look it up, you may recognize it from some anime or other popular works involving magic/mysticism
I'm so glad I was the 666th like on this comment
maybe more like an expanded universe, then when the new Church acquired the rights to the franchise, they just declared it non-canon and ignored it... Wonder if theyre gonna reach into it now, they seem kinda desperate for new material, since the new canon doesnt seem to please the fans so much anymore.
"Bible Fan Fiction"
Huh, never thought I'd hear that one
You're not a Roman Catholic, I take it?
Ever heard of Paradise Lost and the Divine Comedy?
Wait'll you hear what REALLY went down in the Garden of Eden. Heh heh heh!
Biblical stories were passed down as an oral tradition. The stories had many changes.
Mormons, anyone?
I'm glad someone actually covered this topic. When I was a Christian many years ago and after reading and studying the Bible over and over again, especially the books of Isaiah and Ezekiel, which folks claim the story of the origin of Satan appear, I realized that those verses DO NOT talk about Satan, but about the kings of Babylon and Tyre.
I brought that up with some of my peers and they scoffed at my findings. They claimed that I wasn't reading the verses correctly and that I needed "the holy spirit" to guide me while I read the scriptures. I've learned years later that if you read and study a topic and it doesn't explain itself clearly, its all rubbish.
This is why when folks try to tell me "the bible says" this or that, I ask them "did tje holy spirit tell you that?"-because ebery Christian denomination in the world claims to have the truth, that they are believers of Jesus Christ, that they are baptized by the holy ghost, yet they bash others making the same claims as well. This is why there is so much confusion out there. Not everyone of them can be right, but they sure as hell can all be wrong.
He got it all wrong
Here's The Factual Truth (use logic)
First off here's the extension of Isaiah 14:12-14
"12. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13. For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High"
If you really understand the Bible you will notice that the ambition the "King of Babylon" had was far beyond any human comprehension.
For there is no human being who would have the mindset to challenge God who's often called " The Most High"
In reference to Isaiah 14:12, Luke 10:18 says
Jesus said , "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven" this is the same as "How art thou fallen from heaven" in Isaiah 14:12
In addition the devil Lucifer has been known to possess humans throughout history and the king of Babylon happens to be one of the victims.
And another victim of possession was The king of tyre read ezekiel 28 to get the whole picture.
The name Lucifer has nothing to do with a planet but rather a fallen angel.
@@Mulapu1 prove it
@fraterperpetuuscoegi7668 i agree
@@fraterperpetuuscoegi7668 of you study the bible, there is no mention of the rapture. The verses that supposedly were about Satan were actually about the king of Tyre and the king of Babylon exactly. The serpent in the Genesis isn't mention as Satan, although Satan appears in the book of Job, he's no more than a minor character. The term antichrist appears in the 1sr book of John and it says that "anyone that is separated from God is an antichrist", not some kind of evil ruler in the ends of time. Many times people grab one bible verse or two, misinterpret it, and create plenty of false doctrines from them. The bible is clear about the judgment that will fall on those that add or take away from the scriptures, even if they have the best intentions (Revelations 22:17-19).
This is why we need to read, study, and learn what the scriptures says. We need to ask the Almighty for his guidance to understand the words in the holy book, so we don't fall for our own limited and flawed understanding. God himself doesn't anyone boasting nor exaggerating anything for the sake of his name. God is God and he does how he pleases. And for those who take his name in vain, even with the best intentions, will have to be accountable for their actions.
God bless all of you.
Rick
Hello. Greetings, I hope your day finds you well. I suggest you do some reading and digging into Orthodox Christianity, it is the most authentic form of Christianity and I'm certain that you'll find what you need there.
I’d love more about mistranslations! The concept of apocryphal books are so fascinating, and so is how mistranslations accidentally can form canon. Thanks for the cool video!
I’m not even religious, but learning about this stuff is kinda interesting
dude same i’ve been binge watching videos like these
agreed
That interest your feeling is GOD letting your Spiritual Eyes see the works of satan. (Adversary, disrupt, unpure, unrighteous, unlawful)
You shouldnt have to be religious to understand world religion and culture
@Moko a Man who has no Faith is a lost Soul, for in GOD'S Eyes you will be forsaken for your Faith was forsaken.
Lucier as a concept is so important for modren story telling. The idea of of once great and almost heroic person falling to become the ultimate evil is my favorite troupe in fantasy story telling..
With how wonderful life is for everyone on the planet, and the virtue of the leaders, I am so glad that such a baaaad baaaad guy like Lucifer isn’t in charge of anything at all 👍🏻
Vader
Walter white
Turn away from your sins go to God 🙏🙏
@@increaseoverture_ Im pretty sure Anakin is based on both Lucifer and Jesus he was the chosen one and he was born without a father from the force and his mother raised him like Mary. And he fell from grace and started a war and killed all of the Jedi like Lucifer
Thank you for the in depth break down from original text to where we are today in English. Very Well done.
We seriously need to see another part of this video. It’s so interesting.
Very good explanation. I have been aware of this for 5 decades. Having the ability to read Aramaic and Hebrew is paramount to knowing what has been said. I do my best translating Latin which is very helpful. Sadly most religious people don't really want to know the original intention thinking it will destroy their faith.
Yep!
I'm an idiot so take this with a grain of salt, but if a person's faith can be broken by something as simple as knowing the truth, is it even worth anything?
@@jollimaiahtacksworth It never was, faith is a pretty stupid concept. Ignorant at best.
What's your point oh wise linguist? Understand what? What has been misunderstood? The original teachings were taught in Hebrew and Greek and only later Latin, what's your point?
@@ThornWithin I can make out that all linguists I've seen and heard were ignorant and/or Liars. Missing context, missing church history and doctrine.
He's the most handsome, giant ring covered in eyes
That and he has a top hat
Satan is a Cherub angel so he wouldn't be a ring covered in eyes.
Soya NastTes, Thank you
hahahaha
You think guys i was overthrown.. hahahahaha
I am just over here on my throne,
My wings and my hair where you at. I am here who is the heir, and i want you to hear cause i am here. I am who i am. The son of the sun.
@@thepassionateginger6236
my Arch angel name.
Satan is my student.
There is a difference between pride and arrogance.
And we have difference faces.
😛
@@voidlesslove3123 rdr 2?
Thank you for telling us the origin of Lucifer because now I know that it's not the devil but some sort of fallen angel. This was very useful.
Okay yeah... but can we talk about how fitting it is that he used the music for Shine On You Crazy Diamond in the background?? Look up Syd Barrett's story and read the lyrics to that song, and it fits perfectly with the topic of this video. That song could almost be about Satan, and Syd Barrett's "fall from grace" is a very cool parallel. Leaving a like just for that little detail!!
You forgot the part where he fell in love with a detective.
Lmao 5th season part 2 ep 2 is the worst
Glacet Satan doesn't fall in love thou.
@@brewdanny4988 i hope you know i was joking
@@glacet Satan doesn't Joke either
Tell me, What do you desire?
Lemme just go up to some satanists and be like: "Lucifer isn't even canon" smh
"Ya'll just a bunch of hardcore bible fanfiction supporters"
I think they know
@@Stars-Mine Isn't Satan canon?
"Lucifer isn't canon"
"We know"
They know lmao
Hahaha.
Really, if you are a solid Filipino,
You know where we at?
For the topic of this video is the God of Time.
A Question.
Your Quest to answer my Question.
I do love the origins of words and names. It's always so interesting the path words and phrases take to end up where they are now.
You have given me an interest and insight into a whole world of pure beauty that I have no other choice but to climb in deeper.
Isaiah: "Hey, bright boy, you've gone _down._ "
King of Babylon: "You're not helping!"
You think guys i was OverThrown..
Then i laughed,
I am just over here on my throne,
I am here who is the heir, and i want you to hear cause i am here.
I am who i am.
Seeing you guys and hearing you.
I am Lucifer The Son of the Sun.
Isaiah: Come on down, come on down!
Soon. 🦇🦇🦇
Imagine if Isaiah is a former Gangsters and said that and quote in the bible
it is holy word dude keep in that in mind, you will be punished for changeing the words of God (that was mention in bible). You were maybe not informed about that. If you not afraid of God do it for othere people ... respect their faith , do not misslead others. God was newer talking to any of babilon kings directly. Ruler does not make friends with lions ... ruler gave human earht to rule the animals . it is an insult to man to be compared to an animal, because it is man who was created in God's image
Luceafăr is still the Romanian name for Venus in the sky to this day.
Modern Romanian is so close to Latin it's so cool!
Venus the morning star
I can just imagine Lucifer Morningstar (from the show)introducing himself to a Romanian. No shudders here.
They compared it to that but it's an actual lying spirit the devil is real
And both are referred to as The Morning Star!
You did an amazing job on this video and your research is outstanding!
One thing that should be mentioned is Paradise Lost and it’s influence on the story of Lucifer in the minds of modern people (also good to mention is Dante’s Inferno)
Yeah,, thats where MOST of it comes from, surprised he didn't mention it.
Both are fanfictions that have nothing to do with the original texts.
We might say darkness risible. The bit in the Inferno where Satan is eating Brutus, Cassius and Judas Iscariot tells us that the worst in is betrayal.
@@mikearchibald744 the Quran is also a good source of influence
@@Johnny3Batony So? Thats not what he says
Hebrew is like my first language, and the way you were reading sounded like you were going to summon a demon xD
Sounds interesting. Could you please share with us more ? ☺️
@@jasonmb2728 Well It's really just pronounciation. The way you actually read sounds way more laid back. It did sound badass though
@@AtilonWoW yeah. Very true. I don't know Hebrew but it sounded scary listening to that reading. Lol
@@AtilonWoW maybe it's because it's old Hebrew and not the modern one?
It’s old Hebrew not
Yiddish shalom
Great video, love the channel.
I'm not even remotely religious, but these kind of things are interesting.
I used to be religious: the fact that Lucifer falling from heaven, and becoming evil wasn't in the actual Bible (it's in the Apocrypha, I think) is one of the MANY reasons why I'm not anymore. XD
It's amazing that Norse and Greek aren't the religion
@Lucileide Ribeiro dos Passos not really, he's the ultimate rebel against authority... And he somehow almost won against an all powerful and all knowing being.
He tried, sure he failed but trying is what really counts in this instance
Try Aoc network
I agree
Brilliant video, very insightful! Had me hooked dude! Saved it
Thanks for clearing this up. I knew alot of this, but an excellent summary.
5:19 "They taught the humans Forbidden Arts like MIRRORS"
lol what.
Divination
MIRRORS is true Forbidden Arts, if you have not seen any mirror before!
Mirrors and makeup. These things promote vanity. Vanity promotes pride, and pride comes before the fall. What fall you might ask? Why the fall from God's grace of course! We can only be saved by the grace of God. Mercy and forgiveness are God's grace. God achieved these thing through the sacrifice of his son Jesus Christ, who died and was punished for our sins.
But still you might ask, why doesn't God want me to be proud of myself? It's because proud people do not ask for forgiveness. Proud people don't even see themselves as being incorrect.... like ever. Therefore they are incapable of receiving God's grace and being forgiven for their sins. Jesus' sacrifice is wasted on them.
God wants everyone to go to heaven. The serpent wants everyone to go to hell. Who are you going to pick?
@@nathanm.8823
James 1:23
For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man who looks intently at his natural face in a MIRROR. For he looks at himself and goes away and at once forgets what he was like.
@@nirazbal656 The verse you shared has almost nothing to do with the mirror it mentions. It's about seeing the truth and then walking away and forgetting. Hearing the Word and then doing nothing.
So tell me, what is it you truly desire?
An actually non-shit season please
I would love to taste butter
Lucifer😂
Ah, i see you're a man of culture aswell
@Larry Cavalli humanity is created by the likeness or image of god so every time he breaks somones faith he feels he got a revenge against god read in the bible about job
Very thoroughly and well put together, good stuff my man
you’re the best you’ve teaches so much things i hope you get lots of good things in life
As a child I always felt and thought that "Lucifer" sounded too pretty to be a name associated as the devil 🙃🙃🙃
Yes,
I am here the Heir.
The devil that lived forever and ever.
Thought by many fuck by i am fact.
Lucifer was the name used before he rebelled, but after sinning and rebellion God changed Lucifer's name to Satan.
@@dennisotieno6830 satan means adversary. Defending oneself. Free will. Questioning “ authority”.
Lucifer means bearer of light. She sounds pretty great to me. Ciao
The name Lucifer just popped in my head has I try to meditate,The planet is shifting and I have or becoming spiritual to this,So I looked Lucifer up to stumble across this channel on purpose,No ACCIDENTS!!
he was a angel and byble clearly says that, this video spreads misionformation about the devil, just like he probably want
"remember, non of these are canon"
Dude talk like this is an anime fanfic
You got it the other way around, actually. Star Wars, anime, and comic fans talk like their favorite stories are Biblical texts.
Yeah, like the dude above said, the term comes from Biblical study. It was copied by Anime fans
It’s like the apocrypha is not considered canon and this was deemed by Constantine
Bro i think this narrator didn't read the revelation about the war in heaven
Tbh the bible is the og manga
Great Video, saved to my Playlist🧙♂️👍
I am gonna binge the hell outta this amazing channel 😍
was not expecting lucifer to be from a fanfic
Makes perfect sense.
The original “OC do not steal”
I’m really bouta read the Bible now
Read with lots of caffeine...it’s the most boring collection of books I’ve ever read.
@@MikaelLewisify I understand that but there are so many amazing details about the bible . The logic, the wisdom, the holy, etc. everything is amazing and intresting and gets so much better the deeper you go.
@@talkingwithtravion5454 we’re going to need to agree to disagree on this one. In my opinion, the Bible is the most boring and amateur collection of nonsense I’ve ever read.
@@MikaelLewisify i agree many depections were lost due to ill translation between languages and the history is different
@@talkingwithtravion5454 I think calling it “history” is a bit of a stretch. Unless, of course, we are going to also call Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter “history” as well.
“What satan got to do with any of this?” Made me chuckle, i don’t know why
Satan has nothing to do with Lucifer. Except the fact that maybe he was brought down with Satan .
Thank you for this video! Well done!
"We've been played, fooled and quite possibly; bamboozled" - Yepe 69:69
niggalations 69:420
@@ekkoekko4610 I love that haha
Lmao
0000BC Jesus Christ - "Yikes"
I'd much rather believe in God and find out he's not real than vice versa, because the vice versa will not be good. 😊
3:47 Just a little bit of clarification about the planet Venus. It is sometimes visible before sunrise ('morning star') and sometimes after sunset ('evening star') but never both on the same night. That's because Venus orbits the Sun closer than the Earth and hence from our perspective it never strays far from it. However the orbit is very slow so it couldn't be observed both before sunrise and after sunset on the same night. It's only one or the other.
Ah, thanks! I was trying to understand how it could both be the evening and morning star but couldn't get the logistics straight in my head.. 🌟
What if the the star that shines the brightest in the sky is not venus...but the actaul sun 🤨
@@theprofanedflame6601 The sun is too OP and so it doesn't count
@@theprofanedflame6601 Venus is not a star. They didn't know this stuff thousands of years ago.
@@theprofanedflame6601 Calm down. Venus is a planet...we know. People refer to it as a star as that term/noun dates back to the time before humans knew the difference between a star and a planet.
Excellent study! Deep and revealing!Cheers from Rio, Brazil
Great video thanks for posting
i Always wonder about the crazy consequences of mistranslation from languages and how they affect our beliefs today
And people get so used to one translation that they don’t want to look at any other ones.
Beyond affect, my friend! More like impactful on an epiphanic revelation on unparalleled proportions.
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It does, there are many English translation of the Bible aside from the King James Version.
Like in that particular book in KJV where a certain creature was mistranslated as "unicorn🦄" instead of "auroch 🐂".
Pretty sure there was a Futurama world episode about that
You can read it in its original translation
I remember my Bible study teacher telling me this. The name Lucifer was actually meant as a name to ridicule the kings of Babylon whom were trying to overpower the lineage of King David. Lucifer may have never been Satan’s name to begin with.
It's not Satan is the Fallen Watcher Azazel. Lucifer is a title Samael uses and the name popped up in Infernal Grimoires. The Church thought they were talking about the actual Morning Star that fell and pushed it as Cheif Satan. No that is Dutchess Astaroth the former Queen of Heaven. Lucifer is the Fallen Archangel Samael
@@aharonbaalshem Wow that’s interesting! I’ll keep note of this😃 So are Samael and Satan two separate entities? I always wanted to know. And if you have links to sources, I would love to know that as well😄
@@Soundlite09 Samael is Satan, Lucifer is Lucifer. Telling you from a Satanist. Hail the Old Gods!
@@aharonbaalshem Yo those names dont even exist in the bible lmao. Like, some names you just mentioned were based off of mesopotamian Godesses.
Like Astaroth which is based from Ishtar.
@@luciuszogratis9557 I'm talking the actual Hebrew Bible. Samael is literally their Satan and Google is your friemd. Right here is one Google search.
Background. The name Astaroth was ultimately derived from that of 2nd millennium BC Phoenician goddess Astarte, an equivalent of the Babylonian Ishtar, and the earlier Sumerian Inanna. She is mentioned in the Hebrew Bible in the forms Ashtoreth (singular) and Ashtaroth (plural, in reference to multiple statues of her).
Still waiting on videos on those other names! Great video!
WOW! what a great video, thank you so much! please give us the rest of the names and their meanings! bless you for this effort!
Lucifer was sent to hell? So why did hell already exist before this happened? What was the purpose of creating hell?
sounds like he needs to do a video on that very topic :D (idk either btw)
God made it for the devil and his fallen angels humans aren’t meant for hell though usually
@@davidordaz5251 what are humans meant for then? and is this from the bible? i'm curious cause i never read it, too long and confusing lol (also don't believe in most of it)
@@davidordaz5251 How can God, which is pure love, make a place so horrible?
Hell in this verse means the void aka earth
That's the thing with so many translations, interpretations in different languages.
You get estranged from the original meaning of the text.
none of you know the meaning of even one thing in the bible. you all are full of mans buffoonery and church idiocies.
kinda like humans right? we're all descended from England and Africa, but we don't all look or sound like we all, we've become estranged from our own origins in a way
Totallyyy unrelated but
Your PFP reminds me of 'The Ring'
It's a movie
@@yourplaylist4538 : Fear me not....I am not Samara :-)
But everything is related by the way....I have seen 'The Ring'.
It's a picture of a solar eclips.
@@VG-rj8pn : That's why I am an atheist.
Your narration has depth 😇❤️
Please do cover the alternate names of Lucifer. This is fascinating.
WAIT A MINUTE
DONT U THINK SAMYAZA TEACHING HUMANS "FORBIDDEN ARTS" AND GOD PUNISHING HIM IS ALOT LIKE PROMETHEUS INTRODUCING HUMANS TO FIRE AND ZEUS PUNISHING HIM.
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the devil taking the storys in the Bible and making it his own :/, "don't be deceived for even the devil can appear as an angel of light"
Yeah, where do you think the bible's authors came up with that idea, to begin with? All religions come from the same place, they all share ideas and the bible is a young religion/text. I kinda subscribe to gnosticism in this regard, like how Yahweh is the material god (evil) and the freedom providing beings are the good ones .
@@falseprofit2569 If I wanted to spread my religion and control people/the world I would make up warnings like that to keep people confused about what's really good or bad.
@@5thfloor584 I highly doubt people back than would have the knowledge to make up the Bible and the connections within it that's why I lean more to believe it
@@falseprofit2569 many of the stories that have parallels to the Bible actually predate the Bible
Fun fact: the name Lucifer hasn't always been associated with evil. In fact, it is also known as an epithet for Jesus, therefore, making it a popular name. There is a literal Saint Lucifer.
Thank you someone who knows its origin. They don't understand that king Neb. was being mocked for even comparing himself to the likeness of godliness.
But the word Lucifer came from crappy Latin translations that we don't need. Thats why the RC church is so messed up, they used a poorly translated Latin Bible to make their marian cult.
Yes! Jesus' real father may actually be Lucifer. When Jesus was baptized the bible says 'a voice from heaven said...' It did not specify whose voice it was. It would be very presumptuous to assume the voice was God's.
@@quasmati who else would the voice possibly be ? Who else is speaking FROM HEAVEN , to even think Jesus has any other father than God the father is heresy
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Excellent videos mate!
Excellent research & presentations
I love when people use the word "curious" in their vids. Such a whimsical word. 🌹💫❣
curious, very curious
It's curious how you think the word is whimsical
Curiously I'm curious too
When I was small I sometimes used to wonder if planet venus is the real *HELL* lol bcoz of it weird and mysterious features I read like..
1 Planet venus is growing so bright that it can actually cast shadows.
Venus has a bizarre rotation. It rotates in clockwise motion(backwards unlike other planets)Infact A day on venus is longer than a year(To rotate on it own axis : 243 days and to rotate around the sun: 225 days)
2 Venus is hotter than mercury even tho it's the 2nd planet from sun.Its the hottest planet in solar system(Surafce temperature:462°C)
Even more strangely the rotation appears to be slowing down every year.
3 The atmosphere of venus is made up of carbon dioxide and thick clouds of SULPHURIC ACID.The clouds are so thick that that u cannot see what's below. Like how there are water droplets on earth venus has SULPHURIC ACID droplets and CO2 is one of the most dangerous and suffocating gas.
4 Venus has 90 times the atmosphere pressure of earth.
Its called the most brightest planet. It's so bright that it's sometimes mistaken for a UFO.
Venus is filled with volcanoes and fresh lava(probably one is erupting now)
5 Venus appears to be a spot where spacecraft's go to extreme.Venus atmosphere killed spacecraft dead very quickly.
6 As said in the video it's the first star we can see in evening and last star when sun comes up in the morning.
7 MOST Importantly it's called the *Earth's Twin* bcoz of their similar size,mass,proximity to the sun,and bulk composition.
bro you're very open minded, good observation
@a w Bro Sirius is a Literal Star ofc it's gonna be Hotter.
@a w ok
Noted that.
a w Sirius isnt a morning star its a winter star
this is one of my favorite video about lucifer. very enlighting
Interesting, well-researched and presented.
Now I understand why the Dutch call matches Lucifers. Literally, light bringers. Wow!
I am who i am,
I am he,
Let there be light,
I am the Son of the Sun,
Sad but True i am True and it's Good to be True.
My genes is to four families but inherent to one person.
Let share the initial judgement for all is now, a preparatory for real Horror cause i will roar soon to meat the blasphemous.
A Christmas Earthquake was the sign for judgement to the EAST country of pEARLs.
I am the Heir people is in my hair i am here have an EAR.
@@aela9921 *NOW that's what I'd call edgy!*
Klopt
Is also cool to know that "helel" and "shahar" in "helel ben shahar" are both the names to the Crescent moon and star in the islamic flag.
and lemme guess. people will use that translation without context and use it to offend muslim.
but hey i also hate myself for some times
Oddly, I know that only because I served in the Army with a guy named Elhilali
The crescent moon and star symbol actually have no origins in the Islamic faith, in fact the use of those symbols pre-dates Islam. The Seljuk Turks were the first to use those symbols to represent their "Islamic Nation".
A man name Hellel Wiess the head of the Sanhedrin (head of the pharisees). And if you didn't know the pharisees claim to worship the same god as the Muslims
@Digging Monk I am is not what is written it is translated that way from YHWH. Same with LORD it's not written originally it was a translation from the same YHWH. I wouldn't go around throwing those terms at the Most High.
Well done. Thank you so much for this video. Helps me navigate this whole western biblical stuff way better meng
Loving this channel
For the ones saying Satan is Lucifer:
The name Lucifer occurs once in the Scriptures and only in some versions of the Bible. For example, the King James Version renders Isaiah 14:12: “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”
The Hebrew word translated “Lucifer” means “shining one.”In some translations the Latin Vulgate term “Lucifer” is retained. It is, however, merely the translation of the Hebrew word heh·lelʹ, “shining one.” Heh·lelʹ is not a name or a title but, rather, a term describing the boastful position taken by Babylon’s dynasty of kings of the line of Nebuchadnezzar. The Septuagint uses the Greek word that means “bringer of dawn.” Hence, some translations render the original Hebrew “morning star” or “Daystar.” But Jerome’s Latin Vulgate uses “Lucifer” (light bearer), and this accounts for the appearance of that term in various versions of the Bible.
Who is this Lucifer? The expression “shining one,” or “Lucifer,” is found in what Isaiah prophetically commanded the Israelites to pronounce as a “proverbial saying against the king of Babylon.” Thus, it is part of a saying primarily directed at the Babylonian dynasty. That the description “shining one” is given to a man and not to a spirit creature is further seen by the statement: “Down to Sheol you will be brought.” Sheol is the common grave of mankind-not a place occupied by Satan the Devil, and Satan most certainly isnt dead. Moreover, those seeing Lucifer brought into this condition ask: “Is this the man that was agitating the earth?” Clearly, “Lucifer” refers to a human, not to a spirit creature, also men cannot see invisible spirit creatures.-Isaiah 14:4, 15, 16.
Why is such an eminent description given to the Babylonian dynasty? We must realize that the king of Babylon was to be called the shining one only after his fall and in a taunting way. (Isaiah 14:3) Selfish pride prompted Babylon’s kings to elevate themselves above those around them. So great was the arrogance of the dynasty that it is portrayed and represented as bragging and saying in his heart: “To the heavens I shall go up. Above the stars of God I shall lift up my throne, and I shall sit down upon the mountain of meeting, in the remotest parts of the north. . . . I shall make myself resemble the Most High.”-Isaiah 14:13, 14.
Biblical evidence points to Mount Zion as the “mountain of meeting.” Hence, since stars can refer to kings (Nu 24:17; Re 22:16), “the stars of God” must be the kings of the Davidic line who ruled from Mount Zion. The “king of Babylon” (the dynasty of Babylonian kings), reflecting the attitude of Satan the god of this system of things, indicated his ambition to lift up his throne “above the stars of God” by desiring to make the kings of the line of David mere vassals and then finally to dethrone them. Like stars that shed light, the “king of Babylon” shone brightly in the ancient world and could be termed “shining one.”
“The stars of God” are the kings of the royal line of David. (Numbers 24:17) From David onward, these “stars” ruled from Mount Zion. After Solomon built the temple in Jerusalem, the name Zion came to apply to the whole city. Under the Law covenant, all male Israelites were obliged to travel to Zion three times a year. Thus, it became “the mountain of meeting.” By determining to subjugate the Judean kings and then remove them from that mountain, Nebuchadnezzar is declaring his intention to put himself above those “stars.” Instead of giving God the Father(yhwh; here after simply Jehovah) credit for the victory over them, he arrogantly puts himself in Jehovah’s place. So it is after being cut down to the earth that the Babylonian dynasty is mockingly referred to as the “shining one.”
The pride of the Babylonian rulers indeed reflected the attitude of “the god of this system of things”-Satan the Devil. (2 Corinthians 4:4) He too lusts for power and longs to place himself above Jehovah God. But Lucifer is not a name Scripturally given to Satan as is shown beyond doubt by careful examination of the scriptures.
Dam bruh wtf couldn’t you explain this a bit less?
Hey, I don't understand. In short please?
Yeesh. Write much?
Lmao "One of the most important distinctions in the Old Testament and Christian Theology being written to be made clear in a thorough manner is waaay too long for me!!"
Funny How They Tell Ppl To Ignor The King James Version
I really appreciate the fact that you are trying to read out hebrew, but damn, for a hebrew speaking person, its kinda funny to hear an english speaking person read it. Keep up the good work!!
maybe you can help me on this?
הֵילֵל means bringer of light/dawn or morning-Star? In Latin, Lux (Luce) is light.
"Lucifer" is the Latin rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵל . It doesn't SOUND the same but it means the same.
Look: A woman named Rose would still be called Rose in Japan (ローズ), but translated, it would be Bara (バラ) which is the name for the rose flower. Doesn’t sound the same, but it means the same.
So, his entire point on הֵילֵל not being Lucifer is wrong?
Pls your reply is needed
Love your content bro. Keep it up 🙌🏼
Tnx for sharing !
Very good documentation.
At first, I was wondering if you would make reference to Venus.
You did.
Good !
Hochelaga, whatever you do. Just continue to make more of these, your editing skills and pronunciation is SUPERB.
And that’s why in the show, he’s called Lucifer Morningstar
True
Morningstar Morningstar
no thats not why. he was not the morning star there is one being that is called that and never was it lucifer.
@ Nurd: that was a good program, why did they take it off the air?
@@VG-rj8pn But doesn't his name translate to that like the video said?
Fascinating nice upload 👍
Great video! 👍🏻❤️
I'm Christian, but I feel like a lot of the stuff in the old testament was meant to be taken more metaphorically, so this is super interesting to me
Hello Tessa, this presentation is not correct. That passage is not meant to represent venus. It is meant to represent the Devil, even if you reject Lucifer as a name/title. In short when he says modern translations don't use Lucifer, he is right. Modern translations don't because modern translations are wrong. Satan is hiding in plain sight. The KJV uses Lucifer. Even witches and occultists know Lucifer is satan they are not stupid. Don't let satan deceive you. In short the OT is meant to be taken literally where rendered. Jesus fulfilled 313 prophecies LITERALLY at his 1st coming and the rest will be fulfilled LITERALLY at his return. E.g Look at Israel back in the land etc. This is a literal fulfilment of prophecy. Shalom.
@@opindras.bangerh129 no💖
@@opindras.bangerh129 Lucifer is not Satan. Satan is Satan.
@@JackDaniels-pj3sg it's a name change but the same being.
Read: Luke 10:18 KJV - And he (JESUS) said unto them (DISCIPLES), I beheld Satan (LUCIFER) as lightning fall from heaven.
Jesus here witnessing the fall of Lucifer/Satan.
@@opindras.bangerh129 Luke 10:18 is not speaking about the same being. Read the whole chapter of Isaiah 14, it is not speaking about a spiritual being, but a human being which was the king of Babylon. Satan is not Lucifer. The word lucifer is a Latin word. Study and don't be ignorant.
I have come the conclusion that the more you study old texts as a scientific discipline the more astrology seems like it was more than just to scam people but an actual study of something.
Astrology wasn’t a scam it was considered science not anymore it’s fun i like that I’m a Taurus it’s creepy how It’s accurate but it’s just fun to think about but there might actually have science in it
Like alchemy, astrology was actually a proper science (many centuries ago) and certain courts, a.o. kings and queens in the East, hired people to do "science"; meaning that astrology was the equivalent of a government funded physics we are familiar with today. It was a science, but we often make the mistake to compare it (e.g. linguistically) to what is happening today in science. People have always sought to figure out nature and in the case of astrology this was to figure out what heavenly bodies (compared to terrestrial bodies as part of the study of alchemy) were able to do and what meaning they contained.
@Lord Quilton Interesting suggestion and points there. I will actually look in to it since I am curious about the zodiac
Astrology is Science . But horoscope and Zodiac are cult practices
@Lord Quilton nope astrology
Well explain. Thank you.
Thank you for this!
4:50 wait I read this when I was a child. This was part of the story I read when angels went against God and decided to lust over human women and their off springs were giants. They died by the flood. It was even a picture book lol it was cool
Do you remember the name of the book? Would love to check it out
@@jamessicard1705 I am like 99% sure it’s from the Dead Sea scrolls, probably Book of Giants and Book of Enoch
Considering what biblical accurate angels look like, I shouldn't be surprised
Yoooooo i got that book too our family owns it we got the same.
@@remyhavoc4463 Apparently, and this is just assumptions since we don’t have the Biblical stories, but their was possibly a second group of fallen angels that fell a hundred years after Lucifer/The Devil/Beelzebub/The Great Dragon/The Serpent/Th Great Deciever, etc, and his Fallen Angels. What’s ironic, to me, is there is no actual part in the Bible stating the term “Fallen Angel”. It just came later on, apparently.
I am in love with this channel.
I've read the Apocrypha, and I'm kind of surprised that none of them made it into the official texts of the Bible.
Also, fun fact: the Roman Catholics were the ones to canonise the Bible. The Roman Catholics... You know, the ones who withheld the Bible from their people, only plagiarizing its texts amidst sermons and teachings. Lol
Funer fact: you may remember us Jews who received, preserved, lived and died for God's Word, the canonized the Old Testament, for millennia before the Roman Catholics church existed.
I wish the Book of Enoch had made it into the Bible.
Kind of begs the question of when the Catholic church really became "The Catholic Church", you know? Was it before or after the establishing of the Biblical canon?
@@Anthropomorphic According to tradition, the Catholic Church was established by St. Peter. It split from the Orthodox church during the Great Schism of 1054.
Whoa, first time ever getting replies. UwU, I love informational youtube channels. This has been a nice discussion to watch.
Amazing vid❤❤
great video !!!
Your narration is very soothing and makes these intriguing topics along with your choice of ambient music so lovely to watch. Cheers!
Your videos are so good I watched it every single one of them
I agree, super underrated youtuber hope ge gets the recognition he deserves
Same, I subscribed too at 9k subscribers, here before this channel boosts lol
Ikr i hope the youtube RNG algorithim picks up on him
Me too dude
Excellent research!
Brilliant. Thank you.
"Shine on you crazy diamond" in the first minute
Ikr I thought the same thing 😂
I CAME HERE TO TYPE THAT
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You can't leave me like this! Please give us a part two. You're videos are so educational and awesome! As a 14 year old Christian You're videos are super cool to watch
Yea
Here's The Factual Truth
First off here's the extension of Isaiah 14:12-14
"12. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13. For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High"
If you really understand the Bible you will notice that the ambition the "King of Babylon" had was far beyond any human comprehension.
For there is no human being who would have the mindset to challenge God who's often called " The Most High"
In reference to Isaiah 14:12, Luke 10:18 says
Jesus said , "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven" this is the same as "How art thou fallen from heaven" in Isaiah 14:12
In addition the devil Lucifer has been known to possess humans throughout history and the king of Babylon happens to be one of the victims.
And another victim of possession was The king of tyre read ezekiel 28 to get the whole picture.
The name Lucifer has nothing to do with a planet but rather a fallen angel.
@Di Keu No, the passage is using the myth of "Helel Ben Sachar" to emphasize the arrogance of the king and is equating his fall to the motions of the planet Venus which seems as if it is being born by the Dawn in the sky. The author of Isaiah may have taken inspiration from the myth of Baal and Athar in which Athar takes Baals throne but realizes he can not take the position as the throne is too much for him. Luke 10:18 is not referring to a primordial fall of Satan, in the words of the Oxford Bible Commentary "When the missionaries return (v. 17), and
rejoice that they have had power over the demons, the Lord
bids them to raise their sights and to see that what has happened on earth is a reflection of, and a pointer to, something
even more sublime in heaven; 'I watched Satan falling like lightning from heaven.' What is ultimately real and final takes place in heaven and it is this, as it is reflected on earth, that enables the world to be more open to God's rule. Luke has a strong sense of the transcendence of God's kingdom. It is the victory in that sphere that enables Jesus to bring about God's redemption on earth."
This is what the passage is referring to, the loss of control of Satan in the heavenly spear and not a literal fall from heaven of him before Adam and Eve. You're reading later theological ideas back into the bible to come to different conclusions from what it actually says.
Great video...thanks.
SO KOOOL NEED MORE!!
I learn more from RUclips than I ever did from anyone else
Could be lore but I once read that the star Venus is a representation of Lucifer. The last star to defy the morning light, speaking to his defiance and rebellion against God. In any case, I love your information on here! Thank You!
I really enjoy your videos, keep up the great work! Also the statue you used for the thumbnail is actually in the city I live in 😊
Man I was learning the book of Enoch a couple years ago and it totally changed how I translate the meaning of certain parts of the Bible
Currently binging this channel! Fascinating, erudite & eloquent. Research, argument and delivery are excellent. Already disseminating this around my students.... thanks again!
Brilliant video. Great content that is both rich and yet simple to comprehend; great exegetical and historical work too - sound scholarship and engaging visuals will forever make me happy haha. Keep up the good work!
Shine on you crazy diamond. Nice