Lecture: "How Did They Make Those Maps"

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @baylorgal96
    @baylorgal96 4 года назад +4

    I love the overlays of old & new maps!! Nice lecture.

  • @raccoonresident5760
    @raccoonresident5760 3 года назад +5

    This guy needs to be teaching a course in how to recognize maps! He is great!

  • @alvarodavid9566
    @alvarodavid9566 5 лет назад +12

    Why are here so many hate comments on this man?

    • @armorvestrus4119
      @armorvestrus4119 4 года назад +1

      Well one thing's for sure he ain't worth the time. i thought he was here to teach mapping but all he talks about is the globe model when all Surveyors know the earth is truly Flat. Also know one knows what makes a round shadow on the Moon not me and not him either. The round shadow proves nothing about the Earth we all walk on.

    • @armorvestrus4119
      @armorvestrus4119 4 года назад

      @@oledhaeseleer No that's not it at all the video has nothing to do with flat earth. The subject should match the title of a video it is nothing but click bait.

    • @Pentapus1024
      @Pentapus1024 3 года назад

      @Armor Vestrus
      You have shit for brains. Unless you're just trolling, in which case, carry on

  • @ocobrinyc
    @ocobrinyc 4 года назад +6

    Interesting content but the audio quality makes it difficult to watch.

    • @jbtownsend9535
      @jbtownsend9535 3 года назад

      It’s the location of the microphone causing his voice to disappear depending on where he’s facing. As soon as he looks to his left it’s audible, and to the right towards projector it dips out.. Its unfortunate.

  • @gerardtrigo380
    @gerardtrigo380 4 года назад +4

    Another interesting reference, is the "The Story of Maps," by Lloyd A. Brown published in 1949. Does not cover most modern methods but good historical reference.

    • @shepardleroy6036
      @shepardleroy6036 3 года назад

      i know I'm quite off topic but do anyone know a good site to stream newly released movies online ?

    • @jamircoen649
      @jamircoen649 3 года назад

      @Shepard Leroy I use FlixZone. You can find it by googling =)

    • @raccoonresident5760
      @raccoonresident5760 3 года назад

      I can show you how paleo North American Indians navigated Canada. It will blow your mind and wreck map making forever! Lol North Americans in my area navigated with stones. I kid you not! If interested let me know!

    • @raccoonresident5760
      @raccoonresident5760 3 года назад

      Sorry the reason it’s not widely known is it hasn’t been published yet. But it is a map.

  • @timstevens8851
    @timstevens8851 7 лет назад +10

    Excellent presentation. Thanks so much for uploading this.

  • @Statist0815
    @Statist0815 8 лет назад +2

    @7:30 the city in bavaria is spelled Landshut not Lanschut.

  • @treasureexplorationandrese3712
    @treasureexplorationandrese3712 2 года назад

    Does the Museum have any maps of the Interior Basin of the West prior to the Dominguez/Escalante expedition?

  • @Wonderboywonderings
    @Wonderboywonderings 8 лет назад +4

    loved this presentation.

  • @notthisnotnow2568
    @notthisnotnow2568 3 года назад

    Is this a video on maps or flat vs globe earth? Let’s stay on topic professor.

  • @psihypo
    @psihypo Год назад

    Ok, well, what i've learned is that i'm not as interested in old Cartography as i am in old Land Surveying. Dragging a compass and chain thru the woods sounds like a good time to me!!!

  • @talkingbird7529
    @talkingbird7529 4 года назад +2

    Interesting that there’s no mention of Ahmed Muhiddin Piri!

  • @JockDoubleday
    @JockDoubleday 7 лет назад +4

    In his book, "Voices of the Rocks," Robert Schoch attempts to debunk the undebunkable Piri Reis map. Dr. Schoch asks his readers to believe that Turkish admiral Piri Reis started a three-year map project on a piece of gazelle skin that was too small for the map, and so had to bend South America's tip to the right to fit the parchment.
    In fact, the rightward curving land-mass is South America's tip correctly joining Antarctica, as Lt. Colonel Harold Z. Ohlmeyer of the U.S. Air Force confirmed on July 6, 1960. (Piri Reis's map is on the left in the black and white graphic below.)
    ". . . Schoch concludes [in his book "Voices of the Rocks"] that [Piri] Reis's depiction of Antarctica may not be Antarctica at all but in fact simply the lower reaches of South America . . .
    "The sole evidence that Schoch gives for his opinion is that the lower portion of South America curves east on the map. Schoch attributes the curving of South America's tip to Reis running out of room on his gazelle-skin parchment. Mimicking . . . Wikipedia, which states that "the 'extra' landmass is simply the South American coast . . . bent round to fit the parchment," Schoch states that "the supposed coast of Antarctica could well be the lower reach of South America."
    "To make the statement above, Robert Schoch . . . had to believe the following: that Piri Reis, a man competent enough to navigate the ancient seas, was dim-witted enough to start a three-year map project on a piece of material too small for the map.
    "Not only did the project take Reis three years to complete, it was a project that included translating from different map scales and projections, a phenomenally challenging task that very few people on earth could perform successfully today. . . .
    "In fact, as simple research reveals, the reason the lower part of South America is curved to the east on the left-hand lower corner of the map, and the reason that the continent of Antarctica looks as if it might be South America's extended tip at the bottom center of the map, is that Piri Reis used an azimuthal equidistant projection, a sophisticated cartographic method that gives more accurate relative continent sizes than the modern standard of cylindrical projection, which unnaturally enlarges polar-region continents."
    - Jock Doubleday, "Witchcraft Cartography and Clairvoyant Archaeology: A Review of Robert M. Schoch's "Voices of the Rocks: A Scientist Looks at Catastrophes and Ancient Civilizations" (1999)
    anamericaninbosnia.blogspot.com/2013/03/witchcraft-cartography-and-clairvoyant.html

  • @geckowithcamo
    @geckowithcamo 10 лет назад +3

    Regarding the diagrams at 7:30; the moon's shadow isn't governed by the shape of the earth.

    • @stiqula
      @stiqula 10 лет назад +11

      right, except that is a diagram of lunar eclipses, not solar eclipses... so...

  • @SasquatchArtistBenoit
    @SasquatchArtistBenoit 4 года назад +6

    Had to stop watching due to audio fluctuations due to mic dislodge

    • @Pentapus1024
      @Pentapus1024 3 года назад

      Heh, what a weakling you are

  • @stew6302
    @stew6302 4 года назад +6

    We know that the blue marble photeo is real because the clouds in India ocean spells SEX....HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

  • @sam111880
    @sam111880 8 лет назад +1

    Anyway good video but still wondering if there is a best strategy they used to get a good sketch of things probably wasn't until gps or recently with radar/digital imagine that we could get depth calculations so they probably could only do rough sketches of the world not even sure they could put lat and long in the first maps they may have just focused getting the picture right

    • @jl1155
      @jl1155 8 лет назад +5

      sam111880
      the sextant, astrolabe, compass and square along with a map of the sky and calendar are all you really need to estimate the shape and angle of landmasses.
      play more d&d.

    • @someonespadre
      @someonespadre 4 года назад +1

      Accurate topographic mapping existed long before GPS and satellites. Aerial photogrammetry (the science of 3D mapping from pairs of photographs) was invented in the mid 19th century.

  • @notthisnotnow2568
    @notthisnotnow2568 3 года назад

    Most of us know the earth is round. If we were to take an old/ ancient flat map and compare it to current round map is the total size of the earth the same on both maps?

  • @graemeverryt618
    @graemeverryt618 4 года назад +2

    ? so Eratosthenes calculates by simple math at the equator a reasonable 24000 miles , and so with the 7.2 degrees and 480 miles, the same simple math triangulates the sun as 3800 miles above that well in Egypt ? what is the earth diameter at the equator ? why did captain cook estimate he sailed 60000 miles around the world in over 3 years as close as he could get to antarctica ? all the information was there when i left school 30 years ago !

    • @jeremiah1059
      @jeremiah1059 3 года назад +2

      Did you know that Maine has over 3000 miles of coastline but is only 320 miles long; north to south? Just because Cook technically sailed 60000 miles in three years doesnt mean he sailed from point A to B in a straight line. Maybe they had to pull over to get some gas and sodas?

    • @graemeverryt618
      @graemeverryt618 3 года назад

      @@jeremiah1059 at least we're not debating the maths and latitude hehehe

  • @Davidbirdman101
    @Davidbirdman101 2 года назад +1

    ha reading the comments, im amazed how bent out of shape some people get about this subject. further down there are some really nasty comments ha ha. i enjoyed this very much, thank you😇

  • @lo-fiFromChicago
    @lo-fiFromChicago 6 лет назад +4

    Who sees a face in the map at 14:00?

  • @robertleeder1538
    @robertleeder1538 2 года назад +1

    The sound quality on this video was dreadful

    • @robertleeder1538
      @robertleeder1538 2 года назад +1

      I gave up watching it because the sound was so bad. Is the microphone attached to the guy’s shoe or something?

  • @surveyore7
    @surveyore7 3 года назад +1

    I would LOVE to HEAR what he is saying.. Everytime he turns away his voice fades off... Very frustrating!

  • @johnsherwin1104
    @johnsherwin1104 Год назад +1

    Maps and charts were made to scale with angles.
    Starting with observations to features from two points called a baseline intersecting bearings create triangles to scale establishing the position of all points to scale including the baseline.
    No distance is needed to start
    Explorers used Mountain tops to establish the position of points below.
    Navigators used peaks and coast features for map.
    Latitude and longitude was invented before the bronze age to do several things.
    It invented hexidecimals for an angular grid of 360° 60' 60" (DMS) on the stars measured from the centre of the Earth.
    The ratio of 360° (degrees) with 60' (minutes) for each degree and 60" (seconds) for each minute also divides the surface of the Earth for pragmatic Distance Navigation into standard radian Nautical Miles each minute of latitude of 1000 standard fathoms.
    It is inherent within the DMS ratio because pragmatically a thousand fathoms (6000 feet) gives an arc second of 100 feet, a "ten"th of a second of "ten" feet and a hundredth of a second is one foot.
    This ratio is also future proofing of DMS for better accuracy from instruments for angle observations.
    The pragmatic nature of DMS overcame the introduction of a shorter half fathom by English King Edward 1st after 1275 CE (yard/foot) with a shorter 5280 foot Statute mile for a 24,000 equator (it failed there) but persisted as today's foot.
    An English scientist commented later this gave 6068 (Edward) feet for a Nautical Mile.
    The DMS ratio also gives a relationship between length volume and weight for trading where a pint is 5 inches wide, 7 inches long and 1 inch deep for 35 cubic inches giving a 280 cubic inch gallon of 10 pounds
    Portolan maps show how well developed this triangulation mapping system had developed.over the millenia.
    A deep heuristic (mathematical computer) study of Portolan could only establish course books of three navigators was used make the maps called Bearings to Ports of the Mediteranean Sea.
    It could not establish how the map was made.
    The clue was in the title.
    "Bearings"
    Intersection bearing triangulation maps.
    This type of map started being called Plane Table mapping in the 1400'.
    A lattitude and longitude point establishes your angukar position on a line between the centre of the Earth and the stars.
    This allows a rigid angular structure for a scale map made of (bearing intersection) triangles and also give Navigatoon distances of Nautical Miles.
    The ephemeral nature of ancient original maps mean they only survive over ages by copying.
    The ancient Finaeus map that has been found shows a reasonably correct position and correct shape of an ice free Antarcticaat least 6000 years ago long before recent history found it.
    In Captain Cook's search for Antarctica he was able to "Plane Table" map the entire coast of New Zealad as well as the full length of continental east coast of Australia within s few maps.
    Compiled from history

  • @user-ob9zo9cr4c
    @user-ob9zo9cr4c 2 года назад

    14:20 I see damn face there

  • @MrKen-wy5dk
    @MrKen-wy5dk 7 лет назад +5

    Love the guy's bow tie. He probably has a pocket protector, too.

  • @In_Rem
    @In_Rem 3 года назад +1

    @0:01:17 at least he knows earth is flat

  • @Dealit707
    @Dealit707 8 лет назад +5

    It's a fairly new invention; It's called a microphone............but, you have to know how to use it!

  • @katietushim306
    @katietushim306 6 лет назад +2

    I'm just wondering how 24,000 is within 9.5% of 24,860. I guess I'm just stupid because every way i try and find the proportionality I get anywhere between 3% and 3.58%. Someone tell me I'm stupid and then begin to show the correct way.

    • @keiththomas3141
      @keiththomas3141 3 года назад

      Hahaha

    • @JL-tm3rc
      @JL-tm3rc Год назад

      The value he gave is for circumference but if you solve for the radius then compare the cross sectional areas that were computed you will have 9.5 % error. Maybe that is where he committed the error

  • @karidufano6614
    @karidufano6614 5 лет назад +3

    It's written in stone that they had flying vehicles back in Ancient Babylon.

    • @umsiee
      @umsiee 4 года назад

      They did

    • @pinkiesue849
      @pinkiesue849 4 года назад +1

      was that before or after the flood? thanks

    • @karidufano6614
      @karidufano6614 4 года назад +1

      @@pinkiesue849 Before the flood.

    • @pinkiesue849
      @pinkiesue849 4 года назад

      @@karidufano6614 I think we would be surprised at how advanced the civilization was before the flood. too bad they ere so wicked or we would still have a life expectancy of 900.

    • @karidufano6614
      @karidufano6614 4 года назад

      @@pinkiesue849 I couldn't agree more. They have all the technologies to do anything imaginable. They're to damn selfish and hateful.

  • @billthoen5828
    @billthoen5828 5 лет назад +6

    Talk into the microphone!

  • @forrestunderwood3174
    @forrestunderwood3174 Год назад

    Ohio was the testing ground for various grid systems for the USPLS.

  • @leonardhaggstrom9737
    @leonardhaggstrom9737 10 лет назад

    The main problem with the shape of Michigan-the-State is that there are only four Great Lakes, not five. Lake Huron and Lake Michigan are one lake with two arms - not two lakes. A lake, to a cartographer, is drained by a river.

  • @oaim50
    @oaim50 10 лет назад +7

    Nayef Al, Then how is it there was a map of Rome carved in stone in AD 200, look for "Forma Urbis Romae" ... and Islam got started when, Habibi?

    • @umsiee
      @umsiee 4 года назад

      It's all false

  • @robertcurtis3115
    @robertcurtis3115 3 года назад +1

    This guy needs to wear a lapel microphone.

  • @humblegrenade118
    @humblegrenade118 Год назад

    Looking at the map It looks like they made it from a unpractical distance

  • @walshwhite5880
    @walshwhite5880 2 года назад

    Articles and beautiful prints of historic Maps and Charts available at:
    historical-cartography.com/

  • @willyword3413
    @willyword3413 4 года назад +2

    interesting stuff. try again nothing wrong no ones perfect. Set something up again better mic bruv try it

    • @willyword3413
      @willyword3413 4 года назад +1

      Honestly would love to hear or tune in again

    • @willyword3413
      @willyword3413 4 года назад

      Please do it again with same pres dif mic my friend. I'm so interested

  • @stew6302
    @stew6302 4 года назад +2

    the clouds on horn of Africa is Arab letters Haha

  • @bremnersghost948
    @bremnersghost948 6 лет назад +1

    very interesting, but Presenter needs to invest in a throat mic

    • @bremnersghost948
      @bremnersghost948 6 лет назад

      This really could be Great stuff with better audio, add several hundred feet of water to any of these maps and they fit perfectly with current high ground " Coastal terraces and Painted Caves" thus the originals must have been made no later than end of last Ice Age and likely much earlier when current Mountain Ranges and Coastal Mountains were Islands and the Coastline, as the Water receeded Humans reoccupied the structures of earlier Civilisations that had not been totally washed away or buried under sediment, is there anywhere we can see a total overlap of all the surveyed maps?

  • @JamieW-o7b
    @JamieW-o7b 11 месяцев назад

    Clacton girl Sade!

  • @johnmontoya2731
    @johnmontoya2731 2 года назад

    What if when the Chinese traveled by the world seas would have a balloon 🎈 on their Ship extended someone who knowledge of land sketch from a higher level, on a basket a huge scale balloon with a person in the basket with ropes. The Chinese traveled with a number of different types of necessities, weapons, food, water, Forget it I could go on !

  • @FrankJPSegura
    @FrankJPSegura 5 лет назад

    Microphone setup??? Sorry,the video could use some work.

  • @Nico-yj7oo
    @Nico-yj7oo 4 года назад

    nja

  • @ChrisLee66
    @ChrisLee66 4 года назад +2

    Oh okay, so we praise them on their mapping skills, remarkable I heard, but slam them on their belief that the world is flat!? tisk tisk.

    • @majordx
      @majordx 4 года назад +2

      It doesn’t add up does it.

    • @graemeverryt618
      @graemeverryt618 4 года назад

      do the math about Erastosthenes , i wonder why he is Dr ?

    • @baberoot1998
      @baberoot1998 3 года назад +1

      Only an idiot would believe that they thought the earth was flat. That is a modern misconception. The ancients...were not dumb. They knew the earth was round. Only idiots today....hear that they thought it was flat...and believe that that is what they thought. Idiots.

    • @ChrisLee66
      @ChrisLee66 3 года назад +1

      @@baberoot1998 Since I have not been up in space I cannot contest either way. So until I die, all I can do is question what I've been told and let my senses be my guide.

  • @bgill1523
    @bgill1523 3 года назад

    Learn to use the microphone properly.

  • @sam111880
    @sam111880 8 лет назад

    good explanation but i think i would be lost if somebody ask me to start making a map of the world . i think even if I used the mountains it would be relatively difficult to get more the a few good pieces . And you have to be good at art to. I think when planes started to come out and people could fly up in the air taking photos then map making could be done more and more accurate or at least validate to the real thing... even more so with space pictures and digital imagine as we have today

    • @devicesscience6278
      @devicesscience6278 4 года назад

      😂 my indian people named world ancient names iside india.. 😂 so much more confusion to readers.
      Even say here next to my town lord raama follow the deer.😂😂😂 omg I dont believe
      ...
      Look this translated perfectly me. Bellow line
      ..
      "Great view of island is shining to eyes. That was Kuru descendant island(Mahadvip-continent). Witch set circular shaped my lords island on globe 🌍
      Just like human see his face in mirror. Every islands(continents7) best viewed by Moons land.
      Two portion have 3 peapul tree leaf 🌱 . and two portion have rabbit 🐇 greatly."
      ...
      How its possible to what is he say.. This shows their technology how much advanced.
      Its grammatical metre used 24 line fixed . so no one can edit inside data that original never chance to change by others. They write one by one perfectly if one removed or added then it easily understand the reader .
      So its super language. Every data in same hymns metre there is several metre avilable.

    • @devicesscience6278
      @devicesscience6278 4 года назад

      They got them from looted indian metric tonnes books

  • @mr.masses3202
    @mr.masses3202 6 лет назад +1

    Bullshit,it Never takes that long to tell the truth...!

  • @keiththomas3141
    @keiththomas3141 3 года назад +1

    They would have had to have help from advanced beings of some kind that could see the Earth from above. This makes the most sense regardless of how outlandish it seems.

  • @bropeace478
    @bropeace478 10 лет назад +5

    they must have had some pretty fast cars back then. the guy traveled 500 miles in one day to finish his experiment. what kind of car did Jesus drive?

    • @arturocevallossoto5203
      @arturocevallossoto5203 8 лет назад

      He didn't have to go to Syene, just wait for the day in Alexandria.

    • @lo-fiFromChicago
      @lo-fiFromChicago 6 лет назад

      Who sees a face in the map at 14:00

    • @joeyslats31
      @joeyslats31 5 лет назад +1

      I'm fairly sure he sent a letter to a friend he had in Syene telling him to make the measurements for his experiment on that exact day. Probably organised it well in advance.

    • @rileyhinds8616
      @rileyhinds8616 5 лет назад

      An Accord, because it talks about him and his disciples being in one Accord.

    • @umsiee
      @umsiee 4 года назад

      @@rileyhinds8616 😂😂😂😂

  • @glennholmes724
    @glennholmes724 4 года назад +1

    The world is round, but as a plane and not a ball!

    • @カペラマヌエル
      @カペラマヌエル 2 года назад

      Just get on a plane already!

    • @glennholmes724
      @glennholmes724 2 года назад

      @@カペラマヌエル there is no observable earth curvature from an aeroplane.

  • @hiithustle5977
    @hiithustle5977 5 лет назад +1

    They must of had helicopters back in AD. It just don't make sense

    • @umsiee
      @umsiee 4 года назад

      Astronomers

  • @paulb562
    @paulb562 6 лет назад +12

    you don't know what you talking about my friend. The Earth is flat

    • @supergoodusername4635
      @supergoodusername4635 5 лет назад +1

      it is?

    • @nomstertf2209
      @nomstertf2209 5 лет назад +6

      Saying that an experienced professor who has studied the earth for years upon years does't know what he's talking about is idiotic. Flat-earthers who think a facebook post is more reliable than hundreds of years of constant research and proof are subhuman scum.

    • @samo6170
      @samo6170 5 лет назад

      Stupid

    • @alvarodavid9566
      @alvarodavid9566 5 лет назад +5

      I hope this is ironic.

    • @umsiee
      @umsiee 4 года назад +2

      @@supergoodusername4635 it is and the moon is hollow

  • @KenJamesJr
    @KenJamesJr 4 года назад +1

    Nothing but Lies conveyed as truth.

  • @extrasolar213
    @extrasolar213 6 лет назад

    :D

  • @michaelbedford8017
    @michaelbedford8017 3 года назад

    Another institution that seems incapable of 'mikeing-up' a speaker! Ruined.

  • @paulb562
    @paulb562 6 лет назад

    Go back to your sleep

    • @umsiee
      @umsiee 4 года назад

      Eveetime I hear that means I'm doing somethting right

  • @JennaFerrari
    @JennaFerrari 4 месяца назад

    The world is flat. When you said you could see 125 miles. The curvature of earth if one. You wouldn’t see what you see. It would be behind the curve. .8 x distance squared. You couldn’t see a person 3 miles away with binocs. Behind the curve.

  • @martinyeardley8637
    @martinyeardley8637 6 лет назад +1

    poor presentation by an American who knows nothing of the outside world....."hey these dudes seem to call this town Jidda"

  • @guyanasouthamerica2472
    @guyanasouthamerica2472 3 года назад

    you prove that the earth is flat.

  • @QuaaludeCharlie
    @QuaaludeCharlie 3 года назад +1

    earth is flat

  • @DrDissection
    @DrDissection 6 лет назад

    they invented them, is the simple answer. Sicks years ago all maps where invented, in the beginning and for the first year there was only what looks like the northern hemisphere. One year later, that is about five years ago some new continents and their culture language and history where invented, i still remember the hillariosity when they came up with the continent of africa(a continent that is not). We are living in a crater on planet mars, that is as small as an be. We are only about 30.000 inhabitants and yaeh, thats it.

  • @kidvicious2227
    @kidvicious2227 7 лет назад +1

    That pic of earth is actually fake. Nasa even admit it lol

  • @acdmonteiro
    @acdmonteiro Год назад

    It is said that the sound guy never got another job after this one...

  • @enlightenmentdream7373
    @enlightenmentdream7373 4 года назад

    Really feel sorry for the world to have scientists like him. Absolutely restarted.

  • @kellyleek9
    @kellyleek9 12 лет назад +3

    thy copy it from Muslims map

  • @fabiandupuis9416
    @fabiandupuis9416 4 года назад

    So? Light is holding this ball in space? Lol if it be spinning wouldn't all the water be at the equator? I don't know what it looks like,but I'm pretty dam sure it ain't a ball floating by light? Its self evident just look and think for yourself. No way they could of timed the at that distance at that time? Sounds like a scam to me,all jargon just listen,just repeating crap, dude life all life is a pole in a hole! Not two poles , and Columbus?

  • @armorvestrus4119
    @armorvestrus4119 3 года назад

    He still thinks he is living on a ball, LOL. I can't listen to this nonsense anymore...