The crazy fun of EUGENE!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- It’s a whole new episode of ring of the hawk season 3 today which happens to land about the same time as The Hawk does in Mexico. Today it’s the really weird run of Eugene who seemingly went into quite a high spot in the WWE out of nowhere. He was immediately with Chris Benoit and Triple H but then it all just died down and he got injured. But how good will this run be? Let’s see!
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The best thing that came out of the Eugene era was that segment where William Regal came to the stage to confront HHH about calling Eugene out to fight him only for Regal to basically rip into HHH and give him a new asshole. Best promo ever from Regal.
How about I go to the back, change into my ring attire, and we can settle this like gentleman while I tear into you with every drop of vile and venom in my veins!
Didn't H basically bloody Regal all over the arena that night because of this promo? It was funny how that segment used the term "the old WCW" as if it were a relic wrestling organization.
Coz they are best mates, so everything is fine, your right though excellent regal promo 😂😂
I just realize how much i miss the old belt designs. Those World Tag Team Championship belts are fire.
I remember people hating on them too for some reason. They were great along with the Smackdown titles.
I think the hate for the World Tag belt design was that it was replacing a design that had been around for essentially 15 years (+- some tweaks along the way), so there'd be (la) resistance to change. In hindsight, they're a pretty good design on their own.
I miss them too
Everything looks better when you’re wearing nostalgia goggles
@@theslimjames Yeh, that’s pretty spot on I’d say. We kinda see the same thing with the current titles being treated the same, even counting the few that actually look really good.
Nick Dinsmore was a solid technically proficient wrestler. I'd have been interested to see what he could have done without the obvious limitations of the Eugene character.
My friend watch some Ring Ka King. He's on there
While watching this I can't help but notice the number of moves and style changes he has going through the run and be impressed. I like how he'll just break out his opponents moves against them in the middle of the match.
the wrestling savant nature of this character is something that could've been done well without all the trappings we got in real life. Maybe he's someone who's spent hours and hours watching tapes of just about every wrestler on the roster and can easily adapt to their opponent's wrestling style on a dime. Basically, something like a wrestling version of the Marvel Comics character Taskmaster.
I remember Jim Cornette saying he should have been a bigger star but the Eugene character put limitions on him
@@michaelrivera8360 with right booking all can be good man Eugene never got the chance for that
You forgot to mention why Eugene's first run ended in 2005 as well.
He passed out at a hotel from a drug fueled bender not even a week after Eddie Guerrero's death at a hotel, so Eugene got fired for a while until he could clean up
Did this factor into why the dude was essentially de-pushed with that Superman gimmick upon his return vs. wrestling world title contenders soon after his debut?
Eugene was unironically one of my favorite wrestlers as a kid. I loved his story, a special needs kid growing up and living out his dream, despite everyone telling him he can't, or not taking him seriously. Personally he should've won more matches as he was a legit threat when he was angered, and I never got the people who said it was tasteless, it could've been so much worse especially at that time.
He probably shouldn't have got a suspension for drugs. The gimmick wouldn't have lasted anyway people were tiring of him around his fued with Angle anyways
Eugene's character was heartwarming. You can overcome the odds despite disabilities was the message that Nick portrayed perfectly.
Eugene is prime example of a gimmick that would NEVER be allowed today.
Good.
we had a another one some guy called Festus aka Doc Gallows
It should have never been allowed back then
It will happen again and it'll be awesome
Idk if I'd say never. If it was done right and not meant to be a "haha he has mental issues lol [laughs in vince mcmahon]" butt of stupid jokes, I could see it happening.
The Eugene character is a testement to the word "commitment". - As long as you commit, you can get anything over. Nick Dinsmore is a freakin' GOD.
the character would catch so much hell today with the way things are
Fun Fact Bayley was in attendance the night Eugene made his WWE debut on Raw
The biggest highlight during Eugene's beginnings was Regal's promo to HHH.
That promo ruled
But he got beaten immediatelty after. God dammit I hate HHH.
“listen uhhhhh you can’t uhhhh get over in a promo unless i beat you down after uhhhh thats just how the business is man uhhhhh”
@@GilesArt “GOD DAMN YOU HHH!! DAMN YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!” - JR
Best promo ever
I love how he has everyone’s finisher as his regular moves
I'm not trying to be negative but that got old very fast cause it was so repetitive just like the superkick for example. This legendary finishers get used so often that they become just another mundane move.
@@Bears86SB yeah but did you ever play WWE Day of Reckoning 2 on the GameCube? In that game you can steal finishers by clicking both shoulder buttons quickly while doing your own, but Eugene is the only CPU in the entire game who does it too, getting hit with your own finisher by Eugene and no one else because it was only Eugene’s thing was one of the coolest little video game programming tricks I’ve ever seen in wrestling games and it’s sorely missing in todays games.
@@thehorrorhound6575bro day of reckoning goated just like the GameCube
Eugene vs Chavo as Rey Mysterio is one of my favorite matches of all time.
One of the Smackdown games even had a Eugene mini game where you had to make it around the ring doing his airplane walk. Pretty funny.
Man the PSP version of SVR 06 was lowkey underrated.
It was that game is great for sure
The mid 2000's was a wild time to have your favorite wrestlers
Hope you can cover Scott 2 Hotty one day!
Scotty is too good for the Hawk. He’s got a decent career
As someone on the spectrum, and with friends on the spectrum, my friends and I never had an issue with Eugene. It actually inspired one of my friends to become an indie wrestler himself. Although I also know there are those on the spectrum that found issue with Eugene, so don't take me saying my friends and I had no issues with Eugene as me saying that no one had issues.
For awhile Eugene was one of my favorites on WWE at the time. Like, why did they think it was okay to give him a heel turn?
Also on the spectrum, and had a bunch of marks on my Special Olympics bowling league that LOVED the Eugene character (and John Cena)
I don’t get who would have a problem with it, when those that are supposedly being made fun of are loving the character and feeling that that’s them on the TV screen.
3 most popular of all time have put him over Rock has, stone cold, and Hulk Hogan at WrestleMania dude, they showed you defend the disabled and not bully them, to me it was all positive messaging
@@idcwhatuthink4985 he's a total endearing character and gimmick but one that could never be used in todays watered down sterile era we have now...
@@billybadass3056 yeah I totally understand that people act like WWE was really going that crazy with Eugene smh
@@Lenoh I've had other people on the spectrum harass me online for saying I liked Eugene. Saying I shouldn't speak for everyone and that Eugene was problematic and I should be ashamed for liking him.
It's why, when saying I like Eugene, I have to make it clear I'm not claiming to speak for everyone.
From what I remember, Eugene was suppose to be a wrestling savant, so good on them for writing a character like this competently, and not just being the butt of everyone's joke.
Yeah apparently the original idea was literally "Festus" before "Festus." He'd be mentally challenged until the point where he'd be in the ring and the starting bell would ring, at which point he'd suddenly turn into a fucking Bret Hart/Mr. Perfect/Chris Benoit/Kurt Angle/etc tier pro wrestler, and then remain in that idiot-savant fugue state of sorts until the match's ending bell rang at which point he'd return to standard-issue Eugene
God, I hate these types of characters. Really shows how much of a scumbag Vince McMahon is. Cuz it'd never be a situation where Eugene would mark out upon seeing a heel wrestler, only for them to eventually start beating him up until a babyface wrestler inevitably came in, made the save, and did a mark-out celebration with Eugene; but rather it'd just always (fucking ALWAYS) be a situation where Eugene would mark out upon seeing a heel wrestler, only for them to eventually start beating him up...and then keep beating him up...and then beat him up even more until he'd get to crying and either run away or be ko'd and left him.
That bullpucky isn't fun. It's just mean. Really shows how misanthropic Vinny Dickmahon is. 😒
Eugene for 2023 WWE hall of fame!!🤣
The Very Liberal IWC would never allow it unfortunately.
@@TheNextBigJobber fortunately*
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well, maybe not as Eugene, but Nick Dinsmore could be inducted for all the work he did behind the scenes, staying in developmental for years to help train other guys who would carry the company for decades... I would be onboard for that...
@@kerv7711 no UNFORTUNATELY like they said.... if Drew Carry can be there so can he..
Love the promo after they won the tag titles. Eugene was using milk instead of champagne and some splashed on Terri’s well endowed chest. Eugene saw this and started staring with wide eyes. Regal says “you’ll go blind!” Eugene hollers and runs!!! Then Regal says he doesn’t mind needing glasses and gets an eye full!!!!!! Regal was so good at everything he did.
It wasn't Terri, it was Maria, back during her "ditzy" gimmick.
@@justinhillenburg9286 Yes!!! I was thinking about when HurriKane won the tag titles and Kane kissed Terri. Then the next week, she was smitten with Kane.
i heard the guy behind the gimmick was actually a really good technical wrestler . i suppose we don’t get to choose what our big break looks like - at least he didn’t half arse his opportunity
He is. Nick Dinsmore is a damn good wrestler but made this gimmick work wellm
Vince would allow some WWE guys go to developmental and “help the young guys”. This was while Cornette was running OVW. It would get extra fans to attend and get dev guys experience with bigger names. Nick and Benoit and also Regal put on technical wrestling masterpieces there. That’s why Benoit and Regal did stuff with him. Funny thing is: Nick himself came up with the Eugene character. He pitched it to Vince, and Vince loved it.
Nick: “Whatever it takes to make the main roster.”
I remember this backstage segment at Bad Blood 2004 where William Regal walked in on the divas while looking for Eugene that was pretty amusing
Why isn't Eugene vs Kurt Angle in here? He's the one person to beat Kurt for his gold medal.
Another video which i'm gonna rewatch for like 5-10 times. Thank you for great content Marky.
Here i am for the 4th time in only 4 months lol
As an austistic man, I find it really annoying when people get offended at this character on my behalf I thought it was funny
I love how Dinsmore worked Rob Conway in his debut Match, who used to be a regular opoonent of his during his OVW days.
I was thinking the same thing. There matches are available on the Kentuckiana classics RUclips page
Eugene had potential but the character was way too one-dimensional to go anywhere. Nick Dinsmore played the hell out of that character. I mean he almost made me believe that he was special.
Tbf Eugene/HHH gave us arguably the best promo of William Regals career and thats saying something
I loved Eugene growing up. He also made me cry sometimes not going to lie
Eugene never made me Cry. Triple H on the other hand!!
I know what that V stands for
Thank you for not lying.
Were you the kid in class in elementary school who would tear up? I was
NERD ALERT
Legit long time Eugene fan. Few could get such a character over, skilled in ring and character work.
Thank you, I agree, my autistic nephew absolutely loves him and he was born in 2005 and discovered him long after he left WWE. Around 2012. And he likes going back on the WWE Network to watch old Monday Night Raws from 2004 until 2009.
He is so believable and amazing with that gimmick. I honestly think inspired my nephew and made him happy watching him.
Eugene is truly loved in iconic.
Did you ever play WWE Day of Reckoning 2 on the GameCube? In that game you can steal finishers by clicking both shoulder buttons quickly while doing your own, but Eugene is the only CPU in the entire game who does it too, getting hit with your own finisher by Eugene and no one else because it was only Eugene’s thing was one of the coolest little video game programming tricks I’ve ever seen in wrestling games and it’s sorely missing in todays games.
I loved Eugene because he reminded me of the Tekken character "Mokujin" who uses different fighting styles. It was awesome to see him perform different moves from different past wrestlers.
I love Eugene because he pisses off all the people I hate.
Chris look badass holding both the World Title and Tag Belt at the same time 04 was his year despite he was seen as a afterthought cause Triple H needed that spotlight I guess
WWE were really behind Benoit in 2004.
@@extremeking425eah they sadly gave up on him real fast he should have lasted a bit more with the belt and have a feud with young Randy but nope drop it on summerslam and don’t even have a rematch
@@kokotheclown2588 there was a rematch actually it was on the next night at RAW
@@Venemofthe888 oh really wow I didn’t knew that I sorta wished they did the whole Benoit vs Randy feud or the Edge vs Benoit feud for the belt and build it up through his reign cause I felt they could have gone a bit longer and could have gotten a stipulation match to really end the feud strong
I remember loving the Eugene gimmick back when it happened. I don't think anyone else could have done what Dinsmore did with the limited upside. They most definitely could not have had an incompetent wrestler in that gimmick.
The Eugene gimmick definitely wouldn’t fly nowadays.
@@nero48the only reason Dismore took the Gimmick it’s because he was frustrated that he wasn’t call up to the main roster and he even pitch the gimmick to Vince and at course Vince said yes
That's why I loved Eugene so much!! Ironically, everyone acts retarded nowadays. 😂
@@kokotheclown2588 the Eugene gimmick was his idea
@Nero No it wasn't.
Eugene was the Shang Tsung of the WWE Universe. He could just copy other wrestlers' moves. lol
Basically the Taskmaster of the WWE
Back when Eugene was active, I was a big fan! The act was actually pretty entertaining. And I always enjoyed how he was so good at emulating other wrestlers move sets. I know a lot of these guys can pull off lots of different moves and holds. But they actually let Nick do that as part of his gimmick, which was pretty neat at the time.
I didn't even know about Johnny Nitro in Raw in 2004
Kevin Nash in WWE, get his 2000s run in and his return against HHH in 2011
I rate the Eugene character above acts like Giant Gonzalez, Mordecai, and Kerwin White simply because Eugene actually had some good moments. Dinsmore was an underrated wrestler too; people complain all the time that he should have got a chance as a serious character, but to be honest his look was non-descript and he probably never would have made it to the main roster if he didn’t play this character.
Honestly, if anyone could play Eugene in 2004, it was him. I would like to see something similar from an actually neurodivergent wrestler, if they book it right it could be done today, I think
Eugene is a legend don't take the piss out of him he was a nice superstar who isn't a jobber he was more of a comedy superstar who did get some great wins. Also missed his match vs Umaga at vengeance 2006
Eugene was great fun to play as on the WWE Games at the Time
His moveset was awesome
Have you seen Hangman Adam Page hit John Moxley in the head with a brick? Cause it actually happened during AEW Revolution.
They did a couple things with the bricks but the last thing they used one for was to hit someone in the head with it.
😄👍
Man Adam Page STOLE my Curly Bill gimmick from WCW 😡 its cool but throw me something for it 💰 🍝
@@WWFSuperstarVirgil have you mentioned it to him? If not you should probably say something, maybe he won't even know what you're talking about. Or maybe he will know and actually give you something 🤷♂️
Clearly Hangman watches Ring of the Hawk.
@@DasNordlicht91 maybe?🤷♂️
Seth Rollins stomping someone through a pile of cinder blocks was better.
It speaks volumes that Nick Dinsmore was able to instantly slot into the main event scene as a safe and technically sound worker. The character was great and I'm sure a lot of people were inspired by it but it's just sad we never got a Nick Dinsmore run. His work in OVW was great.
Eugene also feuded with Kurt Angle and was in the 2006 Royal Rumble Match
Yeah, that was after he came back
That feud started when Eugene beat Angle, after Angle made an open challenge for his gold metal. So, until Summerslam Eugene had Angle's gold metal
My favorite "Shove-it Man" duet intro is back!
I get why some may not like Eugene or even be offended by the character, but Eugene was awesome. I always enjoyed his segments, especially with William Regal.
This is more respectful than I remembered. It must get terrible toward the end.
I think the character would have worked out if he was treated as a Forest Gump or Rain Man character of how he’s dumb in some areas, but scary good at wrestling. I also think they shouldn’t of overplayed the fact that he was stupid because it got pretty mean quickly. Especially when he’d just get the shit kicked out of him!
The idea was supposed to be closer to what you suggested. Eugene was meant to have Savant Syndrome; it’s an unrecognized label now, but it was used to describe folks on the autism spectrum who were incredibly talented in a particular area. The building blocks were there but the execution wasn’t quite altogether.
@@gabepollock1641 yeah they also shouldn’t of thrusted him into the main Scene that quickly, Give it time! And god keep him away from Triple H!
The bit with the Rock was epic.
'Handicapped match' now that shit is funny
You should do Tyson Tomko in WWE & probably TNA too.
Also, looking back at it, I think Eugene was the only person who I ever smiled after getting chest slapped.
Ring of the Hawk: Heidenreich and/or Snitsky
Man you got to do my run as VINCENT when I was NWO 4 life & was just 2 SWEET + my run as CURLY BILL my most copied gimmick 🍝 💰
So:
I loved eugene, my older brother has autism. He reminded him of his best friend at school that died of brain cancer. So every time he would see him, he’d smile and clap.
My childness at the time thought that it was bringing awareness to autism, I can’t say anything negative about the character and never will.
With the big gold belt and that font, you could convince me the thumbnail was straight out of a 97 Nitro
Another run that can be graded is Jerry Lynns ENTIRE WWF run. He had only 4 matches on the A-Shows, but between those 4 matches and his matches on the B-Shows amounted to 27 matches.
I always enjoyed Nick Dinsmore matches back in the day.
Great video but it's a shame you didn't mention the promo that William Regal cut on Triple H after what he did to Eugene. Probably one of the best he's ever delivered before. He basically laid into Triple H for taking advantage of a "disadvantaged boy"(as Regal called him)and threatened to beat him into a bloody mess for Eugene.
SVR 06 GM mode if you didn't have Eugene on the roster and the other brand did he always became world champion
Maven had one of the best wwe theme songs
My autistic nephew absolutely loves him and he was born in 2005 and discovered him long after he left WWE. Around 2012. And he likes going back on the WWE Network to watch old Monday Night Raws from 2004 until 2009.
He is so believable and amazing with that gimmick. I honestly think The Eugene character inspired my nephew and made him happy watching him.
Eugene is truly loved in iconic.
He would be so over now in WWE...he would get a huge pop.
I don't understand why you are scoring this, he is iconic and loved by Causel fans, you can't expect him to be a indy darling, Japanese spot fest monkey, doing 9 hundred flips and going for hours just to get a ridiculous 5 star match....this was pure Cinema and entertainment.
Nobody can do what Nicholas David Dinsmore did, he could've been an actor, he was so extraordinary at his gimmick and so believable that he inspired people with disabilities.
Look at the crowds, they were so excited and Happy, and they would pull for him and cheer for him, he got actual pops. Plus more viewers watched him back then, than pro wrestling today...4 million to 5 million viewers watched Monday Night Raw back then...more then any promotion today.
He is remembered by Casuel fans and Lapsed fans, he became a star in just 2 years and kids absolutely loved him.
Its funny because we loved him, and everyone in the comment sections, loved him and remembers his character fondly, he was an incredible Nostalgic character for us all, much like George the Animal Steel and the Oddities...he was a Bright spot in our memories and he was over... nobody complained back then they cheered for him.
But I watch some of these RUclips from other channels, Along with you creating just a negative look back at it, maybe because you are such a MARKS, AND everything about pro wrestling has to be serious but its not, it also supposed to be fun and entertaining... it's like you guys make these videos to dimish the impact of Eugene's character, because you guys expect eveyone to be 5 star ridiculous wrestlers and they never get over in America because we love characters, long term telling, and Cinema.
I just think you guys make it seem like everything he did was bad and the matches were bad....when they aren't, they were extremely entertaining and amazing to watch Eugene fight back at the end.
This false narrative you are trying to create, as if The Eugene character was bad and in bad taste and try to say all he did was had matches because he wasn't and didn't.
But little do you RUclipsrs know is that Eugene is remembered fondly and we would love him to comeback, he would get a bigger pop then Kenny Omega that's for sure...he is now generational because the Young Gen-Z generation have rediscovered him on the WWE Network and my nephew who is 19 years old and Autistic loves him and always tells me he should comeback.
We are not gonna be in comment section going along with your ridiculous score numbers as if they valid and make say things like " he was boring, that was in bad taste, he bad... because he wasn't, he made a lasting impact.
Those scores you give him were asinine because we joyed all his matches and appearances.
Eugene was one of my first favorite wrestlers
The fact you had Dutty wine playing in the background the whole time 💀💀💀💀💀
“That match was a lot more entertaining than I thought it would be……I give it a D” LOL why do I think that’s so funny
17 year old me was at the Raw in Peoria, IL for the Eugene-Snitsky hardcore match. Had 3rd row floor tickets. The 2 things I remember from that match was thinking, "Eugene hardcore match? K you have my attention..." and being surprised at just how large a man Snitsky was in person.
Its kind of weird Eugene (who generally mimics 80s/90s wrestlers) didn't do any Mick Foley stuff in the hardcore match. Though by that point his character was starting to just slide off and just do the same moves over and over rather then basing them on the match. (He does later do the socko thing in a tag match randomly)
When your background music overlaps it gives me Eugene levels of anxiety
Ric flair flipping out when Eugene imitated him was sooooooo damn funny lol
Eugene fought Kurt Angel at SummerSlam (2005)
And I WON the Million dollar belt at Summerlsam 91& was also NWO head security/core member 4 LIFE n that's 2 sweet
@@WWFSuperstarVirgil Getting that fuck money?
Billy and chuck for ring of the hawk
21:21
Why’s it sound like the music starts having a seizure here 😂
The Snowman should bring in Eugene to be the new leader of the Blackpool Combat Club.
The craziest part about the whole story of Eugene (Nick Dinsmore) was that he was actually a great wrestler. No one has held the world title in OVW more than Eugene. Crazy stuff
3:10. =.oh is that cereal killer. & serial killer. in the same team 😅
a tad distasteful? sure. But goddamn is "Who's your favorite wrestler? TRIPLE H" an underrated exchange
Dude I love everything about this channel I swear when I'm in a bad mood all I have to do is just start watching your video and I'm laughing and having a good time and if you don't like that then I'll steal all the change out of your pocket!
When we were kids me and my friends used to pop for all the classic finishers eugene did. A memorable run.
I never thought I'd hear my name so much in one of this videos!!! This video gets an A💯
The intro needs to have buff Bagwell say "gay guys"
His move set suited his character so well dude. Seriously underrated move set.
So Regal won the tag belts in UK and Japan. Have you done the Regal Tajiri tag team?
2:36 omg that picture looks....off
That frame of snitsky punting the baby got a big pop from me
It saddens me how little you rated his matches. Eugene was unironically one of my favorite wrestlers of all time and I'll always love his first run. The one run where he was treated properly.
Don’t get me wrong I enjoyed his charscter
One of your favourite wrestlers? I think his character must have been based on you!
Honestly I’m glad Nick created the Eugene character and that his idea got over. Besides the obvious humor, Nick mentions in past interviews about conveying that people with disabilities can overcome the odds. And for the few blind souls who believe the Eugene character should’ve never happened, consider this: how many gay, transgender wrestlers are shoved down our throats today, or even supported into existence? None of us asked for it. On the same token, we didn’t ask for Eugene, but at least he wasn’t shoved down our throats. He just appeared.
Are you telling me Eugene shouldn’t have happened because of his disability portrayal? Isn’t that calling the kettle black.
I met Coach. He was a chill guy 100%
I always found it funny Regal was a heel then Eugene showed up he became a defender of the handicap manager despite Eugene not actually being handicap it was good storyline for how offensive it comes across
I’m stoned and am just realizing just how ridiculous Kane’s haircut was. Why not just shave it bald?
Eugene had a great run and got to use every wrestlers finisher
I like how you use the dutty wine riddim in most if your vids as background music, i see your man of culture 😏😏💪🏾💪🏾
“And if you don’t agree, even if it’s not legal here, ima grab my gun”
Hahahahaha 😂
pissing on Nitro like a dog was a nod to Junkyard Dog
Yeah, that Eugene vs. Edge match (as well as all the other beat the clock challenges on that RAW) had an extra stipulation where if the other person (in this case Eugene) won they'd steal the person (Edge)'s chamber spot. So they had to continue or else Edge would've lost his spot. Shame I don't remember any other beat the clock challenge having that stip since.
19:19
Oh god why...!?
Because I want you to be sad-uhhh.
can i just say
This is he first video ive seen on this channel, i liked it, bloody good show
would love to see Tomko get a tryout for the ring of the hawk..I Found him really underrated, and he had some good momentum back in TNA
16:44 - I remember seeing this live and losing my shit with HHH dragging Ric Flair to the back by his leg.
Conway was one of my first WWE action figures when I was a kid…thanks for reminding me he even existed🤣🤣
I was at Summerslam 2004 and there was a ton of audible boos for Eugene and huge cheers for HHH
The best bit of this feud was William Regal referencing his and HHH's time in WCW.