My sister recently left Emirates after working for them for 5 years. She’s writing a book with plenty of resources despite her NDA. She’s moved from Dubai as she fears repercussions. In the book, she details unreported suicides, silenced deadly accidents and bribery. Her book will be called: “I felt it before I heard it” (I’m sure many Emirates CC will know what this means).
I'd be extremely happy to read it. Please keep us in the loop when it does get published. We'd also love the idea of holding an interview with her. Thanks for the info. And yes, that title is the beginning of the Dubai landing commercial video. Good title!
Interestingly. Emirates crew can now use their phone in uniform in the airport while sitting down. Also when on rest seats they can also read magazines and books and watch a movie. A few things have changed for the better.
Bruh, I know someone who works on an Emirates Cabin crew. The enforcement of these really strict rules falls on the supervisors. Super chill supervisors generally don't care if you read or are on your phone. Each crew just kind of has their own system to make sure that they're alert to calls when they come in and that the work gets divided up properly. The reason for this is the supervisors like to use their phones too, lol.
Being an Indian and after working for an Indian Airline for past 4 years I can tell this with a guarantee Indian pax profile is the worst. If you have dealt Indian pax you can deal with anyone
Thanks for this video. Every job has its downside but the biggest horror is people not being aware of it and going for it expecting only the benefits. If you can handle these downsides and if you're confident what I believe is you can make it. If this is what you love you must go for it but never expect for all glamour. Please do a video about How working as Emirates cabin crew changed your life. What you've learnt. What you really appreciate about this job. Have a nice week ahead.
I will definitely do a video on that! We had such a good time in Emirates! I agree on everything you said. 16 hours flight and 12 hours of pure sitting down with no sleep, no book, no reading, ONLY speaking is bad bad bad. Your brain will fry like this. People need to know this ahead of time before joining. It's just bad for your health to NOT challenge your brain. We believe that a healthy life is a life where you challenge yourself and your mind with new things. Joining only for the money and the travel is not worth it. You'll kill your brain, soul, existence. A human being is worth much more than being confined to doing nothing in a flying tube. My humble recommendation is: enjoy the job, earn the experience and money. Do it for 5-6 years and then, once you feel you got some good good experience and memories out of it, quit! Flying for a living is a punishment to your body and a waste of your potential by doing absolutely nothing. 1/3 of your life is sleep 1/3 of your life is work 1/3 of your life is recovering from work + some travel experience Worth it? Only for a limited amount of time
Another big con for me is Staying away from Family. Right now you might be having dinner, lunch or breakfast with your family talking about random things while laughing and joking but when you join you won't be able to do it. You might miss every single second you spent with them. At sometimes your flatmates won't be home as well and you'll be all alone. Having your food with no one around. That would be really depressing. Don't be trapped in Pros. Also don't be trapped in these Cons. Follow your heart and do what you love. I won't say fly for 5-6 years but fly till you feels like not to.
Great comment again! Agree! Sometimes you have terrible flat mates and you can't make it any longer. Emirates might not help you move out or change your flat mates so you'll get stuck with them for a long time. And the worst as you said, when your family has an event of any sort (baby is born, birthday, business success, wedding, death in family, etc) you won't be there! Skype doesn't work since it's banned in Dubai! So you're really locked out. You may apply for emergency leave (sudden holidays) but Emirates needs certificates (certifying the wedding or death or whatever event it is) and often ignores them since they have small workforce at the moment and large amount of flights to operate. No wonder why many cabin crew are depressed, chronically partying and some commit suicide. If you start off positive and love flying, you'll come through. It's passion and friends that will give you the way. Once you get to Dubai, create your family there. It'll be hard but that's the only way to overcome loneliness.
So far as I know the only way to get calls in Dubai is BotIm. But you gotta pay for it once a month or something. That's what we use to contact my cousins in UAE
Correct! But many of us boycott it. Dubai says its cosmopolitan, open minded, technologically advanced and YET they make you pay to be in touch with your loved ones. Everywhere in the world it's free of charge, Skype works everywhere! It's plain internet! Who charges you to communicate with your family over the internet? What a dumb, contradicting thing they did.. And internet is 85 dollars per month! Isn't that more than enough money? Some things are so terrible.. Eheh
I work for a Major Airline in Europe and in the moment we Check In for work we are not allowed to use our phones! They need to be off and this is good like this so you stay focused on your Job we are there for safety and not to check our instagram during work!
You are completely right. But I feel that not being able to read the daily news paper in a moment where everyone is sitting on containers doing nothing is only frustrating. 1/3 of your life is work. 1/3 of your life is sleep. 1/3 of your life is your passion. If work affects the other 2/3 of your life, it better be for something better than sitting on a container doing nothing. Your brain needs exercise. No matter what. Phones are off limits cause not only it looks unprofessional but also distracts too much. On that I agree completely. What airline are you working for? Regards Orlando @wishcasting
@@WishCasting Yes indeed you are right with the newspaper or a book. This is in our company normal to read or to do something what you want during your "free" time after the service. But we can't forget that EK is a Middle East Carrier and they have complete different rules than any ither carrier. They want that you are to 100% accessible for your costumers during the flight. Of course not when you are on your break in the privat space in your Bunkbed. When you work for EK you are living in shared Accomodations from the company and on top of that you are a flight attendant and any follow collegue would agree with me when i say your work is your life and your passion. Before you become a Flight Attendant you should know that when you start this career that your life will change because Flight Attendant is a Lifestyle not only a Job. No matter which Airline you are working for it will affect always 100% of your life. And the point is you love it or you hate it, there is no 50/50 in this Job. I work for Air France in the Mixed Fleet. Regards Sascha
I agree with it being a lifestyle, not normal work but passion. It was my passion but it slowly got taken away from me. There are so many reasons other than just a book or a phone. But the list is long and.. I want to stay on positive notes 😊 If you want join us here: Join the Emirates Classroom, with Emirates crew members and aspiring cabin crew members on Facebook Here's the group: facebook.com/groups/EmiratesWannabees/ It'd be beautiful to have your input on how things are done differently in your airline. Our group has several economy, business, first class members in it to share thoughts and experiences :) Sascha it's a pleasure to talk to you Orlando @wishcasting
wookie5689 you sound like someone who thinks cabin crew are glorified waiters🤦♀️you obviously got no clue about extensive training we receive, how in reality the emphasis is on safety and first aid and only after all of that (exams daily) training is done, you get a bit of service training. before getting on your first flight, you realize you are not there for service. we have to know so much more it hurts your brain sometimes.
I actually am so amazed at how these FA's work in a place. I am fascinated by how glamorous they look when I see them at airports. I too had some Emirates ground crew friends at the airport and on one occasion an Emirates staff at the airport got reprimanded for sitting down,, because she had to drink her water. It was really mean. And she was just there on overtime duty to cover someone's absence. I mean in Leadership training when you reprimand someone, you don't reprimand in front of other people to see, you call your staff, to somewhere more private and reprimand her. That's how good leaders should be.
I really appreciate you being so honest and real. So great to see the reality of a “dream job”. I haven’t seen anything like this done via ex emirates crew! Thanks for preparing us mentally about the not so glamorous side of flight attending.
Thanks Kaito! As usual a beautiful comment! Yes unfortunately it's important for people to know that once in Emirates, your brain gets lazy and has no chance to excercise. 16 hours flight of pure nothing to do sometimes! A whole life down the drain! 16 hours of your life doing absolutely nothing! Mmmh...
That would drive me crazy. I’m ground crew and we sometimes have a bit of time between flights so we wait in the crew room in the aircraft services building. We have a kitchen, lockers, tables and chairs, vending machines and even a tv on the wall. So long as we either stay there or at least within the building or in the smoking area outside so we can be found by the supervisor and we’re ready to go when the planes are landing, nobody cares what you’re doing while waiting. (Obviously so long as we’re following the safety rules and aren’t doing anything illegal or against regulations.) Some of us mess around on our phones, or watch tv, chat or read. It just seems crazy that we’re treated better that Emirates flight attendants.
I hate people who are disrespectful and always feel compelled to make complaints about others. The cabin crew for Middle Eastern Airlines have it tough, every time they report for work, their jobs are on the line, if a passenger makes a complaint over a little thing, a cabin crew member gets fired. What terrible working conditions, have thought about boycotting Emirates and Qatar over the way they treat staff but at the very least I refuse to make complaints.
I was a Purser for British Airways & also had to manage strict uniform standards . Phones / I pads used to be a no no but laterally became integral to customer service & communications between many company departments. A rewarding career in general & certainly like no other, both in its structure & it’s demanding environment.
Hmm, could you give some examples of uniform standards please? Are the female flight attendants required to wear makeup or high heeled shoes? I’m curious because I’m still new to working as ground crew and so long as the uniform is in decent condition our priority is the PPE and the high vis vests. I don’t bother with makeup and my hair usually looks like I’ve been dragged through a hedge backwards after awhile working out on the airfield.
You forgot to mention one more misery regarding the annoying behavior of some passengers that the cabin crew has to deal with. Especially Dubai to south east asian destinations. This happens immediately after the aircraft touches the ground but still moving towards the gates (taxiing). Some passengers standing up and trying to open the overhead bins as if the journey is completed and the cabin crew yelling sit down and put on your seat belts.
Why cabin crew would take their bad treatment to their passengers as they haven't done anything to them? You unfortunately can't see from our faces how the employer is actually treating us. Keep that in mind when you see the smiles on crews faces. It's well trained smile.
I always travel business class due to my disability, You couldn’t do pay me enough to do the job of an air attendant. People treat them like they are servants, it annoys the hell out of me. These people have trained to keep us safe and the rules are in place not just to pee us off. Now I understand why in the middle of a 16 hr flight the staff in the lounge are more than happy to run around and make you a cup of tea and sandwiches and look at the grandchildren photos, it’s to help keep them entertained when everybody else is asleep, I actually felt guilty. Emirates to Air Vanuatu (very small international airline) are all just wonderful, love you all and thank you 😘😘
I just wish I could read a book when everyone else is sleeping and there is nothing else to do. I doubt there's any company out there that says no to that. Ps: I don't want to sound like a child, but most airlines around the world allow their employees to read. This logic just doesn't add up
WishCasting would you stop and read a book if you were a waiter ?? Would you stop and read a book if you had any other job..... no you wouldn’t. At any point the plane could take a turn for the worst and if your reading a book or anything your mind is distracted. As an FA you always need to be one step ahead, and being distracted by a book does not allow that
That's seeing it in black and white. Not 100% of crew should sit down and read a newspaper, it should be done on a rotation basis (there are many hours in which there is absolutely nothing to do, I said this on many other comments, you didn't read and I'm going to repeat my self now). We work many more hours than a waiter 4 hours to report to work + 16 hours flight time + 4 hours from touch down to the hotel (with usually 2,30 h ouf break in between). It isn't the same and it can't be compared. PS: Airlines allow you to read as much as you want from onboard manuals (of course it's for updating your knowledge) but that distracts you just as much. You need to do this job to understand it. Most people will never relate.
WishCasting No I’m sure I can’t - I only worked twenty odd years doing at least 12 hour shifts on a critical care unit. No perks with that job to make not being able to read or use a phone worth it 🤷♀️ We’ll have to agree to disagree I think. Best wishes
Same in any industry ......senior staff lord it over the minions . I hate it! Half the time they do less work , have no idea of what’s really going on and the true struggles of day to day work , and on top of that they are paid more!!!
1 and 2 are to be expected, I mean, you're there to work...the rest are totally true, specially the passengers and profiles we find onboard. The attrition on all the middle eastern airlines is huge. So far, I'm ok at my airline, but I'm only 6 months flying, we'll see later in life how it goes. loved the video, keep it up!
I work for a European airline and we have separate work iphones from our airline. We are allowed to use them for work purposes like checking different kinds of flight data. We’re also allowed to use the onboard wifi for using whatsapp in case flights are late and we need to inform friends and family on ground or for other personal ”emergencies”. We can also use the work phones and onboard wifi to check major newspapers and news outlets during downtime. So no personal use during work except for a few exceptions. I think this has worked fine for everyone in our company.
You do realize that the oldest millennials are almost 40 right? The majority of us have held service jobs at some point to impatient and entitled boomers so your point is moot....
The plural is 'Aircraft', like the plural of 'sheep' is 'sheep' and 'fish' is 'fish' Aircraft. "The word 'Aircraft' has the same plural form as singular - one aircraft, many aircraft.
The fact is still correct, there is no word AIRCRAFTS! Just a tip also, in the English language, the sound ...ing does not pronounce the n or g as separate letters. Sorry but it is basic English language. Yes Emirates does put unnecessary stresses on staff of either sex but hey, your talking about a region of the world that they feel they have it right and the rest of the world is wrong. Suggestion, don’t work for them and move on just like every job choice.
The smartphone and not being able to read materials while on board (other than flight-related things) is for safety mainly. Cabin crew need to be constantly watching the cabin, even if everyone is asleep, so this is more for safety and I'm sure it actually applies to more airlines than just Emirates.
Phones in a workplace are antisocial and disrupt work,hardly anyone had a phone 30 years ago and everyone was more productive, I work with someone who must spend 50% of the work day on the phone .
Realy im a cabin crew member so what should i do in 16 hours of flight warch the cabin you crazy im chilling on my phone! And if something happen i will sure see it thats why emirates is so terribel
Does not sound that different from my BA crew days in the 90's. These days I fly to Australia and NZ a lot to visit family and friends and I always chose Emirates business class. For the most part I find the crew to be great but then I do go out of my way to be nice to them. On my last trip to Melbourne prior to landing I had a nose bleed from hell and the crew took such good care of me even giving me a pair of pyjamas so I did not have to leave in a blood stained shirt. I hope they are all ok and when this Convid stuff is over I shall look forward to seeing them in the 380 bar
The first time I flew to the UK in 2003 on our own airline Air New Zealand what a joke, I found the stewards and stewardess from Auckland to LA quite rude and seemed to not care. So my next trip in 2011 back to the UK was with QANTAS now they had had some bad press so that trip up through Bankok was full by the time we left to UK on a night flight with so few passengers what a great flight. 2015 We use Emirates so first trip on the A380 what a great aircraft the staff were great although the aircraft seemed a bit worn but servicable so maybe we will take Etihad next time that we can fly
I work as a crew member for Emirates. Yes its true we cant use our phones and/or read while in the cabin, BUT on a long haul flight, our shifts are staggered, meaning we have a rest break, which we spend in a crew rest area. The rest area have beds. So while this video states what we are not allowed to do while in the cabin, on our rest breaks we can do what we like. Rest breaks during long haul flights are staggered, we DO NOT work the full 16 hour flight!! #factcheck
From a former ek crew to a current crew, wouldn't you enjoy reading a book on your aft seats on your small food break? Discretely and on a rotation basis. All crew I flew with, on all my flights have said that it's plain stupid not to be able to read. This doesn't mean it's ok, not imposing on the company anything, but think and be honest, wouldn't it be better for your brain to have a productive break? Fact check: we stated the exact same you said. Breaks everywhere, sometimes too many long breaks on ulrs
I wonder if there is similar situation at Etiad. I flew with them several years ago and the uniform perfection of the crew's makeup, hair, uniforms, and manners was amazing but a little creepy. I had a very nice flight to Pakistan but quietly wondered about how the crew was treated.
Absolutely rigorous just the same. All gulf carriers expect the best from their employees. So much competition, you want to win in every possible small detail
I was a Pan Am "stewardess" in the late 60's, and we had to wear girdles. The supervisors would sometimes tap your bottom to make sure that you had one on. Also, flying to some "developing" countries passengers would light fires in the aisles to cook on. I will always remember the first time that i saw blue footprints on the toilet seat. It wasn't the last time either.
It`s a long time since I`ve tapped a lady`s bottom :) I don`t get the blue footprints bit, had they been washing their feet in the toilet bowl? A mate was flying Heathrow to LA in the `60s when he became aware that his knees had become tight up against the pull-out tray. He quietly took a stewardess aside and pointed this out. She went and told the captain and he immediately descended considerably in altitude for the rest if the flight.
I have watched a few of your videos. You have mentioned multiple stories of supervisors who love to abuse their power and report even the smallest mistake the cabin crews make to their manager. I cannot help but wonder, do Emirates somehow encourage such behavior and reward the Supervisors for it?
Thank you very much Orlando for sharing this and being so honest with it , I personally had another reflection now about this Airline which I learnt today beyond the luxury life that I see through socail media of emmirates cabin crew.
This video is 100% SPOT ON... 100% CORRECT... It's not racist... and I'm an Indian born US raised and even I see the world that way... sometimes, calling things out is not racist or biased at all... it's just the way real world is...
Emirates is a superficial airline. Luxury does not mean they are better airlines. It's a façade. But all the bling in the world does not charm me. I love The West
Umm this is any job, I’ve had nothing but stellar service and experiences flying internationally with Emirates, whatever is going on is working. There are standards, jerks, people who abuse their position, etc, etc, anywhere you go. Not saying it’s ok, or fun, or fair, just saying that’s the facts. Just to clarify, at my job we work 7/14/28 days straight, without going home. You don’t get a trophy for doing what is expected, if you follow all the rules, and do what you are paid to do you might get a raise or a promotion, maybe. At least you won’t be hassled. If you do get a promotion well now you are in a leadership position so you are the one who makes sure the crew is following policy. You are damned if you do and damned if you don’t, apparently. As consumer I do appreciate the hard work doing a difficult job, I know it’s not easy, especially dealing with the public who feel a sense of entitlement just for buying a ticket. So how do you know a pilot is in the room?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Don’t worry they will tell you. Haha
Airline Cabin Crew would have to be one of the worse jobs I could imagine. It’s a rarity to ever see one that looks happy. Stuck in an aluminium tube for hours on end, minimum rest at destinations then back in the plane.
In long flights once you are done with service and you have a bit of time for yourself I don't see the problem of using your phone. Once you are done with your duties and where pax won't see you should be allowed to use your phone, read a book, a magazine or whatever you want. It is really exhausting to be on a long flight where you can't get any distraction that will keep you more awake. My own personal experience, I am more aware of everything if I can use my phone or read something when I have some free time. Those rules are just stupid.
The first one is good and should stay that way (phone ban) but the others are wrong , like I mean maybe when they’re in the stages of the flight, (takeoff, landing, descent, ascent) that requires more attention, they shouldn’t allow reading at these times since airplane accidents occur during these stages the most.
For those coming here, tempted to post the usual negative comment, read this: - This video is of informative nature, based on true aviation experiences. If you haven't worked in the aviation industry please don't comment (cause you cannot relate at all). If you wish to comment anyways, be productive and add valuable information. We do not accept vulgarity, aggressive behavior or comments that make no sense at all. - Are you or have you been a waiter? A nurse? A pilot? Don't comment please, you cannot relate to this industry -Before reading the next point, read this: This video doesn't state that being on the phone is a good thing. It doesn't state that we want things to change so that crew can use their phones from now forward. It states that using phones is something that almost ALL crew do, and that they're afraid of being caught when they do. If your comment goes like this "Can't you understand that using a phone is unprofessional Orlando!?!" then please don't bother reading below or watching our videos - Phones are unprofessional, bla bla bla: Yes it is unprofessional, we agree. But it still remains one of the main causes of fear among cabin crew. ALL CREW (even pilots) use their phones onboard (regardless of how unprofessional it is). They hide in the toilets, hide in the galleys, wherever they can they use their phones when there is nothing to do. When a supervisor passes by and catches someone, they end up reporting that crew for misconduct (end up also meeting their manager receiving a warning). Is this a good thing? YES. Does it create fear among crew? YES! Cause they will always use their phones, and that in itself is something that creates fear of getting caught - For those who shouted here "Crew have breaks on board! You LIAR ORLANDO! They can use their phones or read on their break! How dare you ORLANDO LIE TO US!?!?": Crew have breaks, yes sir! But having to work 16 straight hours, do you think they'll be using their phones or read a book on their break in their bed? They'll surely collapse asleep. What we're talking about here is the inability of doing anything productive with your brain in those long hours where crew do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. 16 hour flight - 3 hour break (never happens to be 3 hours long on an A380, it's usually 2,30 hours, and most long flights are A380) = 13 hours. If it's a night flight, you'll have people sleeping, so services last very little, so 13 hours - 6 hours of service = 7 hours of Nothing. What are you supposed to do with 7 hours remaining? What most crew do is sit down, talk, stare blankly at other crew, containers, food, etc. Instead of this unhealthy trend, crew should be allowed on a rotation basis, to read a book or take notes, or something productive rather than doing nothing at all. NOT all at the same time, they should have a procedure in place with determined timeframes for crew to sit and entertain differently their brain rather than doing nothing. If now you claim that crew have toilet checks, safety checks, passenger checks, replenishing of carts, of toilets, etc, YES they do that! And they should always carry that out! But on night flights where people sleep the whole time, these checks (business class especially) take up to 1-2 minutes MAX. So you don't need all crew to be active and checking the whole aircraft. If demand is low, just let the crew do something productive (in the galley, away from passenger view, not in plain sight of everyone of course) - For the pilots here who said that pilots can't and don't use phones on board: You're not a pilot evidently! We've witnessed more pilots (in multiple airlines by the way) using phones, tablets, laptops, books, magazines, gopros, cameras, 360 cameras in the cockpit than cabin crew. Why? Cause they're only 2 and they don't report each other! Cabin Crew are always in passenger sight and backstab each other much more! That's why you see more videos from the cockpit rather than from the cabin on RUclips (not passenger videos, but crew made videos). - You LIAR ORLANDO! Phones create interference with the cockpit, you cannot use them onboard: Please leave, I won't be upset. Promise - For those who say "it's normal not to be on the phone or reading a book while on duty, it's the same for every job out there": You clearly missed the point of this video and/or of anything we said. We kindly invite you to watch some other RUclips video since you cannot relate nor understand our industry - For those who say "I'm a waiter, I'm never on my phone nor read a newspaper whilst on duty": Your industry is different. You don't wake up 4 hours before your shift, you don't work for 16 hours non-stop, you don't work in a dry, low-pressure environment, you don't sleep in a bunk bed with engine noise, kids shouting, uninterrupted toilet flushes and people chit-chatting right next to your bunk bed. You don't have an extra 4 hour from touch down in the airport till you reach your hotel. You don't work during the night (if you do, you still wake up in the same room, same city, same country, we don't), you don't have jet lag - For those who now say this, and I'm going to hate you for it :D "Don't choose this job if it makes you unhappy and you have to complain about it, or if you can't use your phone, or if you can't read something for all those hours": This video is of informative nature, we worked for this airline and agreed with the terms and conditions. We're totally fine with the fact that you can't read nor use a phone (we don't even care about the phone part), But that doesn't mean we'll shut up about it. That we won't be open for discussion about it. It's a good idea to inform people who've never been in this industry, of what possible struggles they might be facing. Whether it's a millennial thinking of joining the airline, or just a passenger seeking for more insider information - For those who say this video was a waste of their time: Feel free to leave. We wish you a wonderful day - For those who enjoyed this video or found it productive: Thank you! Finally! Finally, to those who have read this very long comment till the very end, please know that we always use common sense. We're very logical people. We would never agree to crew using their phones on board, we'd never encourage the airline to let all crew read at the same time. Instead of looking at the world in black and white (everyone can read a book or no one can), try looking at it with colors or at least in gray (few at a time, with pre-determined timeframes - depending on how busy it is in the cabin). Something logical and with common sense is what we aim for. Peace everybody... Peace!
Oh everything about crew these days sound like a good business if you can endure the pressure, hours and everything in your contract. It is quite sad how other people in any kind of service industry do such hard work while their bosses with fancy job titles are being paid more.. 🙄
There is nothing terrible about being a cabin crew with EK! Its great. Some people can be lonely though. ps phone thing is not entirely true. I used mine lots albeit in secret in toilets and for long flights if you are desp u can use onboard phone. I agree imagine reporting for a magazine! And yes the most crazy flights were the nearer destinations like Pakistan as one example. Esp.boarding..argh!!!
Being a cabin crew is awesome! These were in our opinion and experience, the factors that annoyed crew the most. What annoying factors would you have included in the video Mitchell? So we can add them to our next video ☺️ shout out included if you like
@@WishCasting Hey prob the most irritating thing I could think of is sticky heat in Dxb summer when boarding (b4 doors close and aircon gets going). I always liked to feel fresh so took a spare blouse incase and wore pantyliners in my shoes lol so they could be binned and replaced. Many had smelly feet in those Clarks shoes but not me! Also it often took sooo long to get home after a flight..waiting on crew bus to fill..go and drop at your stop. Lastly boarding some flights was just sooo busy and I always had sympathy and guilt for pax in rubbish seats or if kids kicking back of chair etc. Oh also if flight was late naturally pax would ask.us questions reg connecting flights etc. We were never trained or given info to help. I wished there was more info avail from ground regarding these matters but nobody else cares lol xx ps 2005 to 2008. I left just as the new crew building opened up.
Sounds harsh the ban on phones. 16 hours with no phone. But it must result in crew developing some excellent conversation and meditation skills passing the time with their colleagues. Rare in this day and age. I imagine it does a world of good for their brains. No pain no gain.
I am not sure about the hardship faced by Emirates crew but as a passenger I have been at their receiving end, every time I flew with them. I have lived in UAE for 11 years and as a dark skinned person, I have been discriminated against on every Emirates flight I flew. This was regardless of the ethnicity of flight crew themselves, so it must be an institutional thing.
Remember to write about how it is when the flight ends in Dubai. If you are a female, you will be driven from the airport to the hotel and forbidden to leave the hotel ROOM - you are confined to the room itself, yes - until the next flight. No one can visit you except brothers or your Father. You cannot leave the room. You will be barred from leaving the hotel if you try, as if you were trying to flee from jail. A car will pick you to the next flight. Airport, hotel room, airport. I met a Portuguese girl who understandably gave up. And their wages are not that good either. Being a prostitute must be much more fun and profitable!
No phones, or magazines except onboard manuals. Sounds exactly like the military😁 but I can understand why they have such rules. To me Emirates biggest problem is face to face dealings between supervisors and subordinates. Pre-pandemic, my wife and I had traveled to Europe at least once a year. When we flew Emirates I felt they were the most professional crew I had ever experienced. My wife flew UAE first without me and took time immediately after arriving at her destination to tell me how comfortable and safe she felt.
I love flying Emirates and did it several times NYC-Dubai-Chennai. I will add one more downside of flying Emirates and nothing to do with the crew. If you are a strict vegetarian don't take business class even if it was offered as an upgrade to you while boarding. You will be starving the whole flying time except for some biscuits and soft drinks. Strange but true. I once got an upgrade to BC from Dubai to NYC. It was on the upper deck of A-380 and fortunately I eat anything and it was fabulous and don't have words to express my feelings. The 13hr flight seemed like a 3 hr flight with no body discomforts. Too saddened to hear the news that Airbus stopped the production of their A-380 model airships due to lack of demand from the global airliners.
Hello again, Orlando! How was your time in Dubai? Have you managed to get along with such a different culture than the western one? I'm talking mostly about all those restrictions applied to unmarried couples (I'm 25 years old and I do not intend to get married soon): no kisses and no hugs in public, no signs of physical tenderness, cohabitation forbidden... An unmarried couple is not even supposedly allowed to spend some time together under the same roof! All of this scares me and I'm afraid I could not cope with that!
I answered this question in the video coming out tomorrow! Please follow up on tomorrow's release :) If you have any other questions please ask! We'll be doing more Q&A sessions where you aspiring cabin crew can lead the conversation!
I flew Emirates a few times and the service sucked. Most of the cabin crew were Eastern European and had no people skill at all. Stopped flying the airline. In my opinion there should be better supervision of what they’re upto.
I have soooo much more information, I can't talk about unfortunately. But what to do! Join the Emirates Classroom, with Emirates crew members and aspiring cabin crew members on Facebook Here's the group: facebook.com/groups/EmiratesWannabees/ Orlando @wishcasting
At last count you are at work. You do not need your phone ( you may use it on your break) . You should not be reading, as you are yet again at work. You are being paid for a posting YOU have agreed to. It doesn't matter if you're bored or not,just do the job you and your employer agreed upon.
Do you do so? Join the Emirates Classroom, with Emirates crew members and aspiring cabin crew members on Facebook Here's the group: facebook.com/groups/EmiratesWannabees/ Orlando @wishcasting
To sum it up... BOOT CAMP! Wish everyone puts themselves/families/friends in other’s shoes ... their struggles, hard work, abuse, discrimination and APPRECIATE & RESPECT each and everyone, for whatever job capacity they are in. From my own experience, I learned, that the ones who are quiet, dedicated, work hard are the ones that get trampled on, taken for granted and less appreciated. The poor, the uneducated class are not the only ones who don’t know about cleanliness and uncouth behavior... the rich, well educated, well dressed people also behave in the same manner, even worse! I Appreciate your insight and hope everyone takes it as “constructive criticism” and learn from it.! Wish you safe landings and God Bless🙏🏻
How do you keep your uniforms upto standards, especially on those multi-leg flights. Do crew have an onboard closet where they can take fresh clothes and change at the hotel? Or do they pack 2-3 extra uniforms with them?
Dear me where would we be without our phones? All of the 'terrible' items highlighted demonstrate exactly why Emirates are such a professional outfit that are probably the best airline in the world.
I work 12 hr nights in a 6 bed home for learning disabilities & would go mad without Netflix! I’m there to ensure their well being & should someone on blood thinners have a frequent nose bleed & it looks like several mad axe men have been busy, I am there. Reading a book would make no difference. We all say,”call u back” & shoot off to rescue our kids or stop our dinner from burning? Flight attendants have it tough on the friendliest of airlines-give them a break-or 5? Stressed staff don’t work well in any job but I want happy cabin and pilots flying me across the ocean.
Another question again. A follower in page said Qatar Airways rejected him on the 3rd round cause of a scar on his palm. He covered it from makeup and they told to wash and remove all. Is Emirates also that strict on it?
Hi there Sayuru! I have a scar over my upper lip, below my nose. They asked me how it happened and I explained. That's before I got accepted and worked in Emirates. They aren't so strict if the scar isn't too big. Plenty people join with huge tattoos over their shoulders. As long as you hide them well and don't mention them, you're fine! They don't check and they NEVER get you undressed for it. The reason why Emirates forces its employees to wear round necked T-shirts under their shirts isn't just for concealing chest hair, also for hiding any tattoos that with a white shirt would be partially visible. Hope I answered your question! -Orlando @WishCasting
Re phones. At first I thought that’s not too bad, but when you books, magazines and newspapers are also banned I thought that is unreasonable. Are you allowed to read if you are on a break?
This video is totally misleading and is based only on "Galley talk". You are not allowed to use your phone as a cabin crew because you are PAYED to be on board for the safety and security of yourself first your colleagues second then your customers. How can you make sure a crew member gives his/her 100% if ur constantly checking your phone and being distracted? When you are on a 16 hour flight u have a minimum of 4 hours rest plenty of time to relax and sleep. I am cabin supervisor and with Emirates for the last 9 years our job is not to report. If you report your manager will immediately ask you what did you do about it and if we did not have a conversation with the crew explaining what he/she is doing wrong then we will get in trouble because we are there as a support system to the whole crew. "Sometimes you get reported for things that did not even happen" is an excuse when a crew member uses when they have constantly been reported and hiding from their duties then all the work goes on the rest of the crew. Uniform and professional image and your appearance if not in line with standards are addressed to each and every cabin crew including pursers, so what you are saying that one crew has roots and been reported while another one in the same flight has same problem and no one addressed it I kinda find it very difficult to believe. At the end Emirates is paying us a good salary to represent it's brand if you want to come to work in a dirty uniform, roots and pointy nails and then you have to serve food on board you should definitely find another job. It's nice to try to get more followers and peruse a career on youtube however please when you do these videos get the facts right lying wont take you anywhere. Have a great day
- How can you make sure a crew member gives his/her 100% if ur constantly checking your phone and being distracted? /// Please read my pinned comment, you're just repeating what was already discussed/asked/etc - When you are on a 16 hour flight u have a minimum of 4 hours rest plenty of time to relax and sleep /// That rarely happens to me to have a longer break than 3 hours on an a380 (3 crew rotations x 4 hours = 12 hours of sleep, so 3 services take 4 hours? I don't think so. If you're speaking about b777, that's a different story) - If you report your manager will immediately ask you what did you do about it and if we did not have a conversation with the crew explaining what he/she is doing wrong then we will get in trouble because we are there as a support system to the whole crew. "Sometimes you get reported for things that did not even happen" is an excuse when a crew member uses when they have constantly been reported and hiding from their duties then all the work goes on the rest of the crew /// I can personally guarantee that, we've had experiences (me personally) of being treated unjustly, that is worth mentioning. If you watch the video in FULL, you'll find out that I stated "this doesn't happen often" and "it can be unfair at some times". If you want to argue, please find someone else to fight with. Everything I said on the video is absolutely true. Do you have any friends in Emirates? You should absolutely know that these type of CSVs exist. Rembember Joseph, you might be different from these bad CSVs, but they still do exist (I've had my deal with 1 CSV who made me apologize for being slow during my probation period, when we were testing a new service). He tried everything he could to crush me but the purser knew me personally and didn't listen to that CSV, he had to change my position for me to relax a bit. That CSV was a nightmare and there you have it, my example. My girlfriend has her own examples and we do not lie on these things. If you don't believe us, then have it your pure way - Uniform and professional image and your appearance if not in line with standards are addressed to each and every cabin crew including pursers, so what you are saying that one crew has roots and been reported while another one in the same flight has same problem and no one addressed it I kinda find it very difficult to believe. At the end Emirates is paying us a good salary to represent it's brand if you want to come to work in a dirty uniform, roots and pointy nails and then you have to serve food on board you should definitely find another job /// We never mentioned anything regarding going to work unprofessionally. We spoke about Consistency. You got it all wrong. I've flown with plenty of girls that had roots of different, non uniform or unnatural color, yet they didn't get told off. And I've seen crew getting told off for it all the same. I've witnessed it myself and don't need to convince you. CONCLUSION: You could've avoided the following mean comment "It's nice to try to get more followers and peruse a career on youtube however please when you do these videos get the facts right lying wont take you anywhere. Have a great day" It almost sounds you're hired by Emirates to say this. We're here to portray 5 bad things crew are generally upset with. We're not saying that crew are excused for doing such things. THERE IS a massive difference in the underlying message. If you had friends that were crew (not CSVs or Pursers) and were close to them, they'd tell you their fears and you'd find that they are totally in line with what we say (at least for those 5 years I was employed), maybe things have changed and all is working great now and nobody reports anybody (I don't believe it though). Wish you a good day too. I'm chilled, I come in peace. And by the way, we love Emirates and we only say the truth. People should know the harder side of the job, not just the good stuff (my other videos prove how much I do love Emirates)
Aircraft is collective noun so you do not need to say or write aircrafts when there is more than one aircraft. It is like deer. One deer , two deer (not two deers).
All said and done, I understand the hard routine and discipline in Emirates flight. But Emirates is the BEST. I have travelled in many others as well but for long I enjoy only EMIRATES. BEST OF LUCK
and I have been to some of these Emirates flights and saw some Emirates FA who never really smile. Now I understand they might have been in a bad situation with their supervisors... Sad.
It is very important to point put that racism and offense comes from Cabin crew as well. it is well documented that there is a very high level of conscious or sub-conscious racism on how Emirates cabin crew treats Asian, African and sub continent passengers. Im sure the company invests a lot in high training standards but it does not show unfortunately. They have lost a lot of business lately to other carriers who have noticeably less of this racism problem. I have been to 100 countries and am frequent traveler on Emirates and the number of times ive seen a young white steward be culturally insensitive, tone-deaf or visibly differential in the treatment of certain nationalities is too many to count. People often have complained formally about this and yet the airline continues to hire the worst kind. very sad state of affairs.
Emirates is my airline Im sorry to read the cabin crews are treated poorly. But after flying all these years I know all isnt what it appears in the airline industry
Just as a note- Indian airline passengers make up the largest demographic group that travel globally. I believe 30% or more of all airline travelers are Indian. So whether you would want to acknowledge it or not, they keep the airlines afloat. They aren't stupid either. If they have multiple bad experiences, they are plenty of other asian and middle eastern airlines to choose from and that has been happening more recently. So I would snap out of the default racist mentality if I were an emirates cabin crew and be a little more humane and civil. It doesnt cost anything to be nice. The world isn't blind and everyone can see when obvious subtle racism is at play, even if it is in the air.
sounds like typical work place politics.. no cell phone at my work place and u better not be caught reading magazines on the clock.. it better be a technical manual and would u believe for a first world country some people don't know that the handle on the toilet is for flushing
If you connect wifi in the sky and you get to know about someone's death how would you react? I feel it's good to not get in touch with the world when flying.
So you have to work while you're at work, follow rules that have been explained to you, and sometimes have to deal with difficult supervisors and customers? Sounds like normal working life to me...
IDK. The only time I saw a person be unruley to a cabin crew member was on one flight where there were assigned seats and they book different seats throughout the plane, and the crew member told them they had to wait until after take-off before they could move. Honestly, that's not too much to ask and is common procedure among most flights. Eventually the guy cooled down (and this was all mainly verbal, and we weren't even away from the gate so they could have easily escorted him off the plane if they wanted to). But other than that, I have never seen passengers be rude to cabin crew.
Well I’m a crew member in another airline that u r talking about, totally agree about all what u said. But in the end i just say this our life and we have to accept it as long as we love flying ...
@Ibrahim Wazna imo yes, to an extent. We choose to what make us happy. Whether it be flying, or whatever it is that makes us happy. Being able to tolerate verbal abuse, catering to... It is our choice. Why? Because everyone has a special calling. With that calling, comes yet another blessing; tolerance. I went from FA to nursing. I knew my calling when I was 8 y/o. Oh, and btw, those of us who know/knew don't need trainning, other than who we chose to represent. It was already instilled in us. FA's are not just glorified waitresses, or waiters. They are also the E.R. in the sky.
They can't! But they can say their friends on the flight took the pictures with their phone, and then shared after the flight. No problem doing that. Orlando @wishcasting
That’s understood that is boring for cabin crew in a 16 hours flight not having the little chance to use there phones ! But Also here in the hotels that I am a concierge desk in a hotel and my manager prohibits us from using our cellphones and also a hotel manager get upset if he catches us using our cellphone ! So to pay attention to all hotel guests if they have a question or need help !
My mother wants me to apply for a flight attendant job and i have extreme social anxiety and mental issues,i feel like i will fail everything here and wont be able to make it.. i also heard from someone that Emirates employees slept with some politicians or customers in order to get their job.. not sure if its true but if all that you're saying here is true, i will just stay far away as possible from this job. Thanks for the video, enjoyed it.
As ex emirates crew, if you have social anxiety or mental issues, I absolutely do not recommend this job. Especially this Company. Although there are many good things that come with the job, everything Orlando has explained in this video is all true.
All due respect the crews main job isn’t to insure if we get hot coffee but the actual safety of the passengers and the aircraft .. and sounds like there is to much back stabbing within the cabin crew !!!
well...OF COURSE reading a book or having a cell phone in hand isn't allowed...and this is for many good reasons. As long a crew member is visible for the clients they are on duty and they need to appear busy, active and..well...on duty. And not bored or self-focussed. This is not only for flight attendants but for everyone working in hospitality business.
Actually I don't object to these rules. Flight attendants should be attending to the passengers and providing a commensurate level of service. Sounds like the usual story, staff moaning that the firm isn't run for them but the customers. Funny that.
16 hours flight. People sleeping. Let's offer a commensurate level of service to my fellow cabin crew :) People don't know this industry and label it moaning and entitlement, you really need to be part of the system to understand. Probably only crew can relate.
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My sister recently left Emirates after working for them for 5 years. She’s writing a book with plenty of resources despite her NDA. She’s moved from Dubai as she fears repercussions. In the book, she details unreported suicides, silenced deadly accidents and bribery. Her book will be called: “I felt it before I heard it” (I’m sure many Emirates CC will know what this means).
I'd be extremely happy to read it. Please keep us in the loop when it does get published. We'd also love the idea of holding an interview with her. Thanks for the info.
And yes, that title is the beginning of the Dubai landing commercial video. Good title!
@@WishCasting I wish I can get the book have my hirrevue tommorow
is the book published now
Is it published now?
I can't find this book... Can you please tell me some details? 🌺
Interestingly. Emirates crew can now use their phone in uniform in the airport while sitting down.
Also when on rest seats they can also read magazines and books and watch a movie. A few things have changed for the better.
Really? soon is my final interview and I was really wondering if everything on this channel is still the same about Emirates
Bruh, I know someone who works on an Emirates Cabin crew. The enforcement of these really strict rules falls on the supervisors. Super chill supervisors generally don't care if you read or are on your phone. Each crew just kind of has their own system to make sure that they're alert to calls when they come in and that the work gets divided up properly. The reason for this is the supervisors like to use their phones too, lol.
Being an Indian and after working for an Indian Airline for past 4 years I can tell this with a guarantee Indian pax profile is the worst. If you have dealt Indian pax you can deal with anyone
Thanks for this video. Every job has its downside but the biggest horror is people not being aware of it and going for it expecting only the benefits. If you can handle these downsides and if you're confident what I believe is you can make it. If this is what you love you must go for it but never expect for all glamour.
Please do a video about How working as Emirates cabin crew changed your life. What you've learnt. What you really appreciate about this job. Have a nice week ahead.
I will definitely do a video on that! We had such a good time in Emirates! I agree on everything you said.
16 hours flight and 12 hours of pure sitting down with no sleep, no book, no reading, ONLY speaking is bad bad bad. Your brain will fry like this. People need to know this ahead of time before joining.
It's just bad for your health to NOT challenge your brain.
We believe that a healthy life is a life where you challenge yourself and your mind with new things. Joining only for the money and the travel is not worth it. You'll kill your brain, soul, existence. A human being is worth much more than being confined to doing nothing in a flying tube.
My humble recommendation is: enjoy the job, earn the experience and money. Do it for 5-6 years and then, once you feel you got some good good experience and memories out of it, quit!
Flying for a living is a punishment to your body and a waste of your potential by doing absolutely nothing.
1/3 of your life is sleep
1/3 of your life is work
1/3 of your life is recovering from work + some travel experience
Worth it? Only for a limited amount of time
Another big con for me is Staying away from Family. Right now you might be having dinner, lunch or breakfast with your family talking about random things while laughing and joking but when you join you won't be able to do it. You might miss every single second you spent with them. At sometimes your flatmates won't be home as well and you'll be all alone. Having your food with no one around. That would be really depressing.
Don't be trapped in Pros.
Also don't be trapped in these Cons.
Follow your heart and do what you love.
I won't say fly for 5-6 years but fly till you feels like not to.
Great comment again! Agree!
Sometimes you have terrible flat mates and you can't make it any longer.
Emirates might not help you move out or change your flat mates so you'll get stuck with them for a long time.
And the worst as you said, when your family has an event of any sort (baby is born, birthday, business success, wedding, death in family, etc) you won't be there! Skype doesn't work since it's banned in Dubai! So you're really locked out.
You may apply for emergency leave (sudden holidays) but Emirates needs certificates (certifying the wedding or death or whatever event it is) and often ignores them since they have small workforce at the moment and large amount of flights to operate.
No wonder why many cabin crew are depressed, chronically partying and some commit suicide.
If you start off positive and love flying, you'll come through. It's passion and friends that will give you the way.
Once you get to Dubai, create your family there. It'll be hard but that's the only way to overcome loneliness.
So far as I know the only way to get calls in Dubai is BotIm. But you gotta pay for it once a month or something. That's what we use to contact my cousins in UAE
Correct!
But many of us boycott it.
Dubai says its cosmopolitan, open minded, technologically advanced and YET they make you pay to be in touch with your loved ones.
Everywhere in the world it's free of charge, Skype works everywhere! It's plain internet!
Who charges you to communicate with your family over the internet? What a dumb, contradicting thing they did..
And internet is 85 dollars per month! Isn't that more than enough money?
Some things are so terrible.. Eheh
I work for a Major Airline in Europe and in the moment we Check In for work we are not allowed to use our phones! They need to be off and this is good like this so you stay focused on your Job we are there for safety and not to check our instagram during work!
You are completely right.
But I feel that not being able to read the daily news paper in a moment where everyone is sitting on containers doing nothing is only frustrating.
1/3 of your life is work. 1/3 of your life is sleep. 1/3 of your life is your passion.
If work affects the other 2/3 of your life, it better be for something better than sitting on a container doing nothing.
Your brain needs exercise. No matter what.
Phones are off limits cause not only it looks unprofessional but also distracts too much. On that I agree completely.
What airline are you working for? Regards
Orlando @wishcasting
@@WishCasting Yes indeed you are right with the newspaper or a book.
This is in our company normal to read or to do something what you want during your "free" time after the service.
But we can't forget that EK is a Middle East Carrier and they have complete different rules than any ither carrier. They want that you are to 100% accessible for your costumers during the flight. Of course not when you are on your break in the privat space in your Bunkbed.
When you work for EK you are living in shared Accomodations from the company and on top of that you are a flight attendant and any follow collegue would agree with me when i say your work is your life and your passion.
Before you become a Flight Attendant you should know that when you start this career that your life will change because Flight Attendant is a Lifestyle not only a Job.
No matter which Airline you are working for it will affect always 100% of your life. And the point is you love it or you hate it, there is no 50/50 in this Job.
I work for Air France in the Mixed Fleet.
Regards
Sascha
I agree with it being a lifestyle, not normal work but passion.
It was my passion but it slowly got taken away from me.
There are so many reasons other than just a book or a phone. But the list is long and.. I want to stay on positive notes 😊
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It'd be beautiful to have your input on how things are done differently in your airline. Our group has several economy, business, first class members in it to share thoughts and experiences :)
Sascha it's a pleasure to talk to you
Orlando @wishcasting
@wookie5689 You clearly missed the point of the whole video. Read the pinned comment at the top
wookie5689 you sound like someone who thinks cabin crew are glorified waiters🤦♀️you obviously got no clue about extensive training we receive, how in reality the emphasis is on safety and first aid and only after all of that (exams daily) training is done, you get a bit of service training. before getting on your first flight, you realize you are not there for service. we have to know so much more it hurts your brain sometimes.
I actually am so amazed at how these FA's work in a place. I am fascinated by how glamorous they look when I see them at airports. I too had some Emirates ground crew friends at the airport and on one occasion an Emirates staff at the airport got reprimanded for sitting down,, because she had to drink her water. It was really mean. And she was just there on overtime duty to cover someone's absence. I mean in Leadership training when you reprimand someone, you don't reprimand in front of other people to see, you call your staff, to somewhere more private and reprimand her. That's how good leaders should be.
I really appreciate you being so honest and real. So great to see the reality of a “dream job”. I haven’t seen anything like this done via ex emirates crew! Thanks for preparing us mentally about the not so glamorous side of flight attending.
Thanks Kaito! As usual a beautiful comment! Yes unfortunately it's important for people to know that once in Emirates, your brain gets lazy and has no chance to excercise. 16 hours flight of pure nothing to do sometimes! A whole life down the drain! 16 hours of your life doing absolutely nothing! Mmmh...
That would drive me crazy. I’m ground crew and we sometimes have a bit of time between flights so we wait in the crew room in the aircraft services building. We have a kitchen, lockers, tables and chairs, vending machines and even a tv on the wall. So long as we either stay there or at least within the building or in the smoking area outside so we can be found by the supervisor and we’re ready to go when the planes are landing, nobody cares what you’re doing while waiting. (Obviously so long as we’re following the safety rules and aren’t doing anything illegal or against regulations.)
Some of us mess around on our phones, or watch tv, chat or read. It just seems crazy that we’re treated better that Emirates flight attendants.
@@WishCasting OMG 😲 that's so sad to know the internal sufferings CC had to endure during long flights. 😢
I hate people who are disrespectful and always feel compelled to make complaints about others.
The cabin crew for Middle Eastern Airlines have it tough, every time they report for work, their jobs are on the line, if a passenger makes a complaint over a little thing, a cabin crew member gets fired. What terrible working conditions, have thought about boycotting Emirates and Qatar over the way they treat staff but at the very least I refuse to make complaints.
MEA jezz I worked on their 707's in LHR in the late 1970's
I was a Purser for British Airways & also had to manage strict uniform standards . Phones / I pads used to be a no no but laterally became integral to customer service & communications between many company departments. A rewarding career in general & certainly like no other, both in its structure & it’s demanding environment.
Hmm, could you give some examples of uniform standards please? Are the female flight attendants required to wear makeup or high heeled shoes? I’m curious because I’m still new to working as ground crew and so long as the uniform is in decent condition our priority is the PPE and the high vis vests. I don’t bother with makeup and my hair usually looks like I’ve been dragged through a hedge backwards after awhile working out on the airfield.
You forgot to mention one more misery regarding the annoying behavior of some passengers that the cabin crew has to deal with. Especially Dubai to south east asian destinations. This happens immediately after the aircraft touches the ground but still moving towards the gates (taxiing). Some passengers standing up and trying to open the overhead bins as if the journey is completed and the cabin crew yelling sit down and put on your seat belts.
You're absolutely on point! And it's also so dangerous
Generally , I found Emirates crew to be very good and professional.
If not, torture methods when they get back to base.
Why cabin crew would take their bad treatment to their passengers as they haven't done anything to them? You unfortunately can't see from our faces how the employer is actually treating us. Keep that in mind when you see the smiles on crews faces. It's well trained smile.
I always travel business class due to my disability, You couldn’t do pay me enough to do the job of an air attendant. People treat them like they are servants, it annoys the hell out of me. These people have trained to keep us safe and the rules are in place not just to pee us off. Now I understand why in the middle of a 16 hr flight the staff in the lounge are more than happy to run around and make you a cup of tea and sandwiches and look at the grandchildren photos, it’s to help keep them entertained when everybody else is asleep, I actually felt guilty. Emirates to Air Vanuatu (very small international airline) are all just wonderful, love you all and thank you 😘😘
Not being funny but this sounds like any other responsible job 🤷♀️ what’s the problem?
I just wish I could read a book when everyone else is sleeping and there is nothing else to do. I doubt there's any company out there that says no to that.
Ps: I don't want to sound like a child, but most airlines around the world allow their employees to read. This logic just doesn't add up
WishCasting Yes there is, nursing lol
WishCasting would you stop and read a book if you were a waiter ?? Would you stop and read a book if you had any other job..... no you wouldn’t. At any point the plane could take a turn for the worst and if your reading a book or anything your mind is distracted. As an FA you always need to be one step ahead, and being distracted by a book does not allow that
That's seeing it in black and white. Not 100% of crew should sit down and read a newspaper, it should be done on a rotation basis (there are many hours in which there is absolutely nothing to do, I said this on many other comments, you didn't read and I'm going to repeat my self now). We work many more hours than a waiter 4 hours to report to work + 16 hours flight time + 4 hours from touch down to the hotel (with usually 2,30 h ouf break in between). It isn't the same and it can't be compared.
PS: Airlines allow you to read as much as you want from onboard manuals (of course it's for updating your knowledge) but that distracts you just as much.
You need to do this job to understand it. Most people will never relate.
WishCasting No I’m sure I can’t - I only worked twenty odd years doing at least 12 hour shifts on a critical care unit. No perks with that job to make not being able to read or use a phone worth it 🤷♀️ We’ll have to agree to disagree I think. Best wishes
Same in any industry ......senior staff lord it over the minions . I hate it! Half the time they do less work , have no idea of what’s really going on and the true struggles of day to day work , and on top of that they are paid more!!!
1 and 2 are to be expected, I mean, you're there to work...the rest are totally true, specially the passengers and profiles we find onboard. The attrition on all the middle eastern airlines is huge. So far, I'm ok at my airline, but I'm only 6 months flying, we'll see later in life how it goes.
loved the video, keep it up!
Hello! How is it going so far?
I work for a European airline and we have separate work iphones from our airline. We are allowed to use them for work purposes like checking different kinds of flight data. We’re also allowed to use the onboard wifi for using whatsapp in case flights are late and we need to inform friends and family on ground or for other personal ”emergencies”. We can also use the work phones and onboard wifi to check major newspapers and news outlets during downtime. So no personal use during work except for a few exceptions. I think this has worked fine for everyone in our company.
Excellent information! You added value to our video. Interesting to know these bits of information from other parts of the world
A real dedication for passangers' safety and services. Thanks to CABIN CREWS for your hospitality!
Our pleasure!
I think every US millennial would benefit from a shift as a Emirates Crew member.
Possibly yes.
I agree 🤣
ok boomer
You do realize that the oldest millennials are almost 40 right? The majority of us have held service jobs at some point to impatient and entitled boomers so your point is moot....
The plural is 'Aircraft', like the plural of 'sheep' is 'sheep' and 'fish' is 'fish' Aircraft. "The word 'Aircraft' has the same plural form as singular - one aircraft, many aircraft.
The fact is still correct, there is no word AIRCRAFTS! Just a tip also, in the English language, the sound ...ing does not pronounce the n or g as separate letters. Sorry but it is basic English language. Yes Emirates does put unnecessary stresses on staff of either sex but hey, your talking about a region of the world that they feel they have it right and the rest of the world is wrong. Suggestion, don’t work for them and move on just like every job choice.
No shit
Aircroft, for you Brits out there.
Don’t forget “girls”. I get hives when I hear, “those toys belong to my girls-iz”
Singular: hairoplane - plural: hairoplanes
I’m not an Emirates cabin crew, but this video looks like it took a lot of work making! Liked and subscribed.
The smartphone and not being able to read materials while on board (other than flight-related things) is for safety mainly. Cabin crew need to be constantly watching the cabin, even if everyone is asleep, so this is more for safety and I'm sure it actually applies to more airlines than just Emirates.
In any other jobs you are not able to use the phone either. I always had to lock my phone which was good for me, cuz I get distracted so easily.
Phones in a workplace are antisocial and disrupt work,hardly anyone had a phone 30 years ago and everyone was more productive, I work with someone who must spend 50% of the work day on the phone .
Exactly! The moment you start your work in the aircraft, no distractions, always be alert, until all passengers out of the aircraft and cleared.
Realy im a cabin crew member so what should i do in 16 hours of flight warch the cabin you crazy im chilling on my phone! And if something happen i will sure see it thats why emirates is so terribel
Anf no its only emirates because they are stupid
Does not sound that different from my BA crew days in the 90's. These days I fly to Australia and NZ a lot to visit family and friends and I always chose Emirates business class. For the most part I find the crew to be great but then I do go out of my way to be nice to them. On my last trip to Melbourne prior to landing I had a nose bleed from hell and the crew took such good care of me even giving me a pair of pyjamas so I did not have to leave in a blood stained shirt. I hope they are all ok and when this Convid stuff is over I shall look forward to seeing them in the 380 bar
The first time I flew to the UK in 2003 on our own airline Air New Zealand what a joke, I found the stewards and stewardess from Auckland to LA quite rude and seemed to not care. So my next trip in 2011 back to the UK was with QANTAS now they had had some bad press so that trip up through Bankok was full by the time we left to UK on a night flight with so few passengers what a great flight. 2015 We use Emirates so first trip on the A380 what a great aircraft the staff were great although the aircraft seemed a bit worn but servicable so maybe we will take Etihad next time that we can fly
I worked for EK for many years. Had the best time of my life.
Your arguments here are blown out of proportion.
which one is EK?
@@LMTDDS EK is the IATA reporting mark for Emirates.
I work as a crew member for Emirates. Yes its true we cant use our phones and/or read while in the cabin, BUT on a long haul flight, our shifts are staggered, meaning we have a rest break, which we spend in a crew rest area. The rest area have beds. So while this video states what we are not allowed to do while in the cabin, on our rest breaks we can do what we like. Rest breaks during long haul flights are staggered, we DO NOT work the full 16 hour flight!! #factcheck
From a former ek crew to a current crew, wouldn't you enjoy reading a book on your aft seats on your small food break? Discretely and on a rotation basis. All crew I flew with, on all my flights have said that it's plain stupid not to be able to read. This doesn't mean it's ok, not imposing on the company anything, but think and be honest, wouldn't it be better for your brain to have a productive break? Fact check: we stated the exact same you said. Breaks everywhere, sometimes too many long breaks on ulrs
How many washroom breaks allowed in a 16 hour flight if I may ask?
I wonder if there is similar situation at Etiad. I flew with them several years ago and the uniform perfection of the crew's makeup, hair, uniforms, and manners was amazing but a little creepy. I had a very nice flight to Pakistan but quietly wondered about how the crew was treated.
Absolutely rigorous just the same. All gulf carriers expect the best from their employees. So much competition, you want to win in every possible small detail
@@WishCasting how about SIA,is it much more stringent than Emirates.
I was a Pan Am "stewardess" in the late 60's, and we had to wear girdles. The supervisors would sometimes tap your bottom to make sure that you had one on. Also, flying to some "developing" countries passengers would light fires in the aisles to cook on. I will always remember the first time that i saw blue footprints on the toilet seat. It wasn't the last time either.
That's crazy!!!!
Those were the days lol
It`s a long time since I`ve tapped a lady`s bottom :)
I don`t get the blue footprints bit, had they been washing their feet in the toilet bowl?
A mate was flying Heathrow to LA in the `60s when he became aware that his knees had become tight up against the pull-out tray. He quietly took a stewardess aside and pointed this out. She went and told the captain and he immediately descended considerably in altitude for the rest if the flight.
Having a mid flight, mid ailse BBQ. Pure gold. Hahahahaha.
Debbie Gibson I bet you had more fun on Layovers then. !
I have watched a few of your videos. You have mentioned multiple stories of supervisors who love to abuse their power and report even the smallest mistake the cabin crews make to their manager. I cannot help but wonder, do Emirates somehow encourage such behavior and reward the Supervisors for it?
I heard they do, that they have a minimum of reports they have to file. But that could be just rumors.
@@WishCasting ?how come u dont know? Were u a cabin crew for ek right?
I am an Emirates first class traveler. I am full enjoying, but I am sorry for crew members
Thank you very much Orlando for sharing this and being so honest with it , I personally had another reflection now about this Airline which I learnt today beyond the luxury life that I see through socail media of emmirates cabin crew.
Hi Yanni, we always try to give a full view of the job, so you're not caught by surprise when you get there. :) ☺️
Orlando@wishcasting
This video is 100% SPOT ON... 100% CORRECT... It's not racist... and I'm an Indian born US raised and even I see the world that way... sometimes, calling things out is not racist or biased at all... it's just the way real world is...
Oh, so you are an American Born (read raised) Confused Desi... I completely get it...
Deffinetly , It is better to be your own boss ,have your own company and travel wherever you want as a passenger not as an employee.
Qatar cabin crew were reporting their own colleagues for smoking outside a hotel at Heathrow a few years ago.
I heard of that. What a shameful behavior
Emirates is a superficial airline. Luxury does not mean they are better airlines. It's a façade. But all the bling in the world does not charm me. I love The West
"Men Have It Easy-Women Have It Worse..!!" I Womder Why..? 🤔
Umm this is any job, I’ve had nothing but stellar service and experiences flying internationally with Emirates, whatever is going on is working. There are standards, jerks, people who abuse their position, etc, etc, anywhere you go. Not saying it’s ok, or fun, or fair, just saying that’s the facts.
Just to clarify, at my job we work 7/14/28 days straight, without going home. You don’t get a trophy for doing what is expected, if you follow all the rules, and do what you are paid to do you might get a raise or a promotion, maybe. At least you won’t be hassled.
If you do get a promotion well now you are in a leadership position so you are the one who makes sure the crew is following policy. You are damned if you do and damned if you don’t, apparently.
As consumer I do appreciate the hard work doing a difficult job, I know it’s not easy, especially dealing with the public who feel a sense of entitlement just for buying a ticket.
So how do you know a pilot is in the room??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Don’t worry they will tell you. Haha
Please stop this vibrating hand. I almost fell in a vertigo.
Lesson learned, we're removing it from our videos, it'll be without a hand hence forward
I think powertripping happens in a lot of companies though not just emirates. Difficult customers they're everywhere too.
Airline Cabin Crew would have to be one of the worse jobs I could imagine. It’s a rarity to ever see one that looks happy. Stuck in an aluminium tube for hours on end, minimum rest at destinations then back in the plane.
thanks for your honesty :)
This is so informative. Thanks guys
thank you! ☺️
Orlando @wishcasting
You're there for safety and to work. I don't understand why it's so difficult to turn off your phone and put it away.
In long flights once you are done with service and you have a bit of time for yourself I don't see the problem of using your phone. Once you are done with your duties and where pax won't see you should be allowed to use your phone, read a book, a magazine or whatever you want. It is really exhausting to be on a long flight where you can't get any distraction that will keep you more awake. My own personal experience, I am more aware of everything if I can use my phone or read something when I have some free time. Those rules are just stupid.
The first one is good and should stay that way (phone ban) but the others are wrong , like I mean maybe when they’re in the stages of the flight, (takeoff, landing, descent, ascent) that requires more attention, they shouldn’t allow reading at these times since airplane accidents occur during these stages the most.
Finally someone that understood the sense of the video! ☺️ And yes I totally agree with everything you said!
Very unfortunate that you harshly comment on Emirates or the Asian workers.
For those coming here, tempted to post the usual negative comment, read this:
- This video is of informative nature, based on true aviation experiences. If you haven't worked in the aviation industry please don't comment (cause you cannot relate at all). If you wish to comment anyways, be productive and add valuable information. We do not accept vulgarity, aggressive behavior or comments that make no sense at all.
- Are you or have you been a waiter? A nurse? A pilot? Don't comment please, you cannot relate to this industry
-Before reading the next point, read this: This video doesn't state that being on the phone is a good thing. It doesn't state that we want things to change so that crew can use their phones from now forward. It states that using phones is something that almost ALL crew do, and that they're afraid of being caught when they do. If your comment goes like this "Can't you understand that using a phone is unprofessional Orlando!?!" then please don't bother reading below or watching our videos
- Phones are unprofessional, bla bla bla: Yes it is unprofessional, we agree. But it still remains one of the main causes of fear among cabin crew. ALL CREW (even pilots) use their phones onboard (regardless of how unprofessional it is). They hide in the toilets, hide in the galleys, wherever they can they use their phones when there is nothing to do. When a supervisor passes by and catches someone, they end up reporting that crew for misconduct (end up also meeting their manager receiving a warning). Is this a good thing? YES. Does it create fear among crew? YES! Cause they will always use their phones, and that in itself is something that creates fear of getting caught
- For those who shouted here "Crew have breaks on board! You LIAR ORLANDO! They can use their phones or read on their break! How dare you ORLANDO LIE TO US!?!?": Crew have breaks, yes sir! But having to work 16 straight hours, do you think they'll be using their phones or read a book on their break in their bed? They'll surely collapse asleep. What we're talking about here is the inability of doing anything productive with your brain in those long hours where crew do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. 16 hour flight - 3 hour break (never happens to be 3 hours long on an A380, it's usually 2,30 hours, and most long flights are A380) = 13 hours. If it's a night flight, you'll have people sleeping, so services last very little, so 13 hours - 6 hours of service = 7 hours of Nothing. What are you supposed to do with 7 hours remaining? What most crew do is sit down, talk, stare blankly at other crew, containers, food, etc. Instead of this unhealthy trend, crew should be allowed on a rotation basis, to read a book or take notes, or something productive rather than doing nothing at all. NOT all at the same time, they should have a procedure in place with determined timeframes for crew to sit and entertain differently their brain rather than doing nothing. If now you claim that crew have toilet checks, safety checks, passenger checks, replenishing of carts, of toilets, etc, YES they do that! And they should always carry that out! But on night flights where people sleep the whole time, these checks (business class especially) take up to 1-2 minutes MAX. So you don't need all crew to be active and checking the whole aircraft. If demand is low, just let the crew do something productive (in the galley, away from passenger view, not in plain sight of everyone of course)
- For the pilots here who said that pilots can't and don't use phones on board: You're not a pilot evidently! We've witnessed more pilots (in multiple airlines by the way) using phones, tablets, laptops, books, magazines, gopros, cameras, 360 cameras in the cockpit than cabin crew. Why? Cause they're only 2 and they don't report each other! Cabin Crew are always in passenger sight and backstab each other much more! That's why you see more videos from the cockpit rather than from the cabin on RUclips (not passenger videos, but crew made videos).
- You LIAR ORLANDO! Phones create interference with the cockpit, you cannot use them onboard: Please leave, I won't be upset. Promise
- For those who say "it's normal not to be on the phone or reading a book while on duty, it's the same for every job out there": You clearly missed the point of this video and/or of anything we said. We kindly invite you to watch some other RUclips video since you cannot relate nor understand our industry
- For those who say "I'm a waiter, I'm never on my phone nor read a newspaper whilst on duty": Your industry is different. You don't wake up 4 hours before your shift, you don't work for 16 hours non-stop, you don't work in a dry, low-pressure environment, you don't sleep in a bunk bed with engine noise, kids shouting, uninterrupted toilet flushes and people chit-chatting right next to your bunk bed. You don't have an extra 4 hour from touch down in the airport till you reach your hotel. You don't work during the night (if you do, you still wake up in the same room, same city, same country, we don't), you don't have jet lag
- For those who now say this, and I'm going to hate you for it :D "Don't choose this job if it makes you unhappy and you have to complain about it, or if you can't use your phone, or if you can't read something for all those hours": This video is of informative nature, we worked for this airline and agreed with the terms and conditions. We're totally fine with the fact that you can't read nor use a phone (we don't even care about the phone part), But that doesn't mean we'll shut up about it. That we won't be open for discussion about it. It's a good idea to inform people who've never been in this industry, of what possible struggles they might be facing. Whether it's a millennial thinking of joining the airline, or just a passenger seeking for more insider information
- For those who say this video was a waste of their time: Feel free to leave. We wish you a wonderful day
- For those who enjoyed this video or found it productive: Thank you! Finally!
Finally, to those who have read this very long comment till the very end, please know that we always use common sense. We're very logical people. We would never agree to crew using their phones on board, we'd never encourage the airline to let all crew read at the same time.
Instead of looking at the world in black and white (everyone can read a book or no one can), try looking at it with colors or at least in gray (few at a time, with pre-determined timeframes - depending on how busy it is in the cabin). Something logical and with common sense is what we aim for.
Peace everybody... Peace!
Awesome message!!! Agree with you 100% !!!
Oh everything about crew these days sound like a good business if you can endure the pressure, hours and everything in your contract. It is quite sad how other people in any kind of service industry do such hard work while their bosses with fancy job titles are being paid more.. 🙄
How do you make your animations? They look great! Which application or program?
@@ellywafula9152 It's called Doodly! But we prefer video scribe! Even if we don't own it.
@@WishCasting thanks I appreciate it so much
There is nothing terrible about being a cabin crew with EK! Its great. Some people can be lonely though. ps phone thing is not entirely true. I used mine lots albeit in secret in toilets and for long flights if you are desp u can use onboard phone. I agree imagine reporting for a magazine! And yes the most crazy flights were the nearer destinations like Pakistan as one example. Esp.boarding..argh!!!
Being a cabin crew is awesome! These were in our opinion and experience, the factors that annoyed crew the most. What annoying factors would you have included in the video Mitchell? So we can add them to our next video ☺️ shout out included if you like
@@WishCasting Hey prob the most irritating thing I could think of is sticky heat in Dxb summer when boarding (b4 doors close and aircon gets going). I always liked to feel fresh so took a spare blouse incase and wore pantyliners in my shoes lol so they could be binned and replaced. Many had smelly feet in those Clarks shoes but not me! Also it often took sooo long to get home after a flight..waiting on crew bus to fill..go and drop at your stop. Lastly boarding some flights was just sooo busy and I always had sympathy and guilt for pax in rubbish seats or if kids kicking back of chair etc. Oh also if flight was late naturally pax would ask.us questions reg connecting flights etc. We were never trained or given info to help. I wished there was more info avail from ground regarding these matters but nobody else cares lol xx ps 2005 to 2008. I left just as the new crew building opened up.
Sounds harsh the ban on phones. 16 hours with no phone. But it must result in crew developing some excellent conversation and meditation skills passing the time with their colleagues. Rare in this day and age. I imagine it does a world of good for their brains. No pain no gain.
I am not sure about the hardship faced by Emirates crew but as a passenger I have been at their receiving end, every time I flew with them. I have lived in UAE for 11 years and as a dark skinned person, I have been discriminated against on every Emirates flight I flew. This was regardless of the ethnicity of flight crew themselves, so it must be an institutional thing.
Please elaborate because MOST of the flights crew are amazing irrespective of who you are
Thanks for opening my eyes Orlando!!! I really needed to hear it 😊😉
You're so welcome!
I also want to become Emirates cabin crew but I know my luck very well it can't tolerate my success I definately fail..I believe 😭...
Remember to write about how it is when the flight ends in Dubai. If you are a female, you will be driven from the airport to the hotel and forbidden to leave the hotel ROOM - you are confined to the room itself, yes - until the next flight. No one can visit you except brothers or your Father. You cannot leave the room. You will be barred from leaving the hotel if you try, as if you were trying to flee from jail. A car will pick you to the next flight. Airport, hotel room, airport. I met a Portuguese girl who understandably gave up. And their wages are not that good either. Being a prostitute must be much more fun and profitable!
Thanks a lot for true sharing
My pleasure
When you said no phones i was like no problem, you can read a book.... and then ...... ‼
I have all my sympathies with the crew .Sorry to learn all the hardships that they have to bear.
If smiling at people and do not use phones is hard, you should try Office job, where nobody is smiling and you don´t move 8 hours off your PC.
It's hard to understand if you've never been onboard in the back scenes
I wonder what Emirates thinks of the videos 😊 guess they're not happy bout 'em? Thanks for so much helpful information.
No phones, or magazines except onboard manuals. Sounds exactly like the military😁 but I can understand why they have such rules. To me Emirates biggest problem is face to face dealings between supervisors and subordinates. Pre-pandemic, my wife and I had traveled to Europe at least once a year. When we flew Emirates I felt they were the most professional crew I had ever experienced. My wife flew UAE first without me and took time immediately after arriving at her destination to tell me how comfortable and safe she felt.
I love flying Emirates and did it several times NYC-Dubai-Chennai. I will add one more downside of flying Emirates and nothing to do with the crew. If you are a strict vegetarian don't take business class even if it was offered as an upgrade to you while boarding. You will be starving the whole flying time except for some biscuits and soft drinks. Strange but true. I once got an upgrade to BC from Dubai to NYC. It was on the upper deck of A-380 and fortunately I eat anything and it was fabulous and don't have words to express my feelings. The 13hr flight seemed like a 3 hr flight with no body discomforts. Too saddened to hear the news that Airbus stopped the production of their A-380 model airships due to lack of demand from the global airliners.
I once spoke to an Emerates hostess in private and she told me of how the men treat them. It was disgusting.
In those countries
Customer will never be happy.... whatever you do!....
Only when the customers are karens...
Some maybe yes, but me I m very satisfied of Emirates service on board
There are tons of employers who don't allow phones for a variety of reasons. Not just an Emirates thing.
Hello again, Orlando! How was your time in Dubai? Have you managed to get along with such a different culture than the western one? I'm talking mostly about all those restrictions applied to unmarried couples (I'm 25 years old and I do not intend to get married soon): no kisses and no hugs in public, no signs of physical tenderness, cohabitation forbidden... An unmarried couple is not even supposedly allowed to spend some time together under the same roof! All of this scares me and I'm afraid I could not cope with that!
I answered this question in the video coming out tomorrow! Please follow up on tomorrow's release :)
If you have any other questions please ask! We'll be doing more Q&A sessions where you aspiring cabin crew can lead the conversation!
@Emmanuel Lizzi
That's maybe the heaviest reason I never went to middle east as I don't want to get into troubles telling them my real piece of mind
I flew Emirates a few times and the service sucked. Most of the cabin crew were Eastern European and had no people skill at all. Stopped flying the airline. In my opinion there should be better supervision of what they’re upto.
Finally some truth in the emirates related video.
I have soooo much more information, I can't talk about unfortunately. But what to do!
Join the Emirates Classroom, with Emirates crew members and aspiring cabin crew members on Facebook
Here's the group:
facebook.com/groups/EmiratesWannabees/
Orlando @wishcasting
The cabin crew should work harder for less
Great eye opener! New subcriber here and I am enjoying all your videos :) Keep it up!
Hi Nina thanks a lot for your feedback! I'm glad to have such comments on our wall! Spread the word if you can! ☺️
I'm wondering why this video receveid so many dislikes, I think is very well done. We could agree or not on what he said but the video is very nice
Grazie mille Ricordi Aerei! Very kind!
At last count you are at work. You do not need your phone ( you may use it on your break) . You should not be reading, as you are yet again at work.
You are being paid for a posting YOU have agreed to.
It doesn't matter if you're bored or not,just do the job you and your employer agreed upon.
meditate on the flight (: it’s even better than entertaining your brain
Do you do so?
Join the Emirates Classroom, with Emirates crew members and aspiring cabin crew members on Facebook
Here's the group:
facebook.com/groups/EmiratesWannabees/
Orlando @wishcasting
To sum it up... BOOT CAMP! Wish everyone puts themselves/families/friends in other’s shoes ... their struggles, hard work, abuse, discrimination and APPRECIATE & RESPECT each and everyone, for whatever job capacity they are in. From my own experience, I learned, that the ones who are quiet, dedicated, work hard are the ones that get trampled on, taken for granted and less appreciated. The poor, the uneducated class are not the only ones who don’t know about cleanliness and uncouth behavior... the rich, well educated, well dressed people also behave in the same manner, even worse! I Appreciate your insight and hope everyone takes it as “constructive criticism” and learn from it.! Wish you safe landings and God Bless🙏🏻
Wow ... the story about a mean supervisor is also happened in other carriers.
Yes I'm sure.. Happens everywhere unfortunately
How do you keep your uniforms upto standards, especially on those multi-leg flights. Do crew have an onboard closet where they can take fresh clothes and change at the hotel? Or do they pack 2-3 extra uniforms with them?
So true . All true ... And there are more points not mentioned here 😢
Coming from the current EK flight attendant 💪
Would you like to help us do another video? Get in touch with us and we'll add your bullet points! We'd love to!
I don´t know if its true that emirates cabin crew have a license and if its true does it have to be renewd?
Dear me where would we be without our phones? All of the 'terrible' items highlighted demonstrate exactly why Emirates are such a professional outfit that are probably the best airline in the world.
That last part got me...omg
I work 12 hr nights in a 6 bed home for learning disabilities & would go mad without Netflix! I’m there to ensure their well being & should someone on blood thinners have a frequent nose bleed & it looks like several mad axe men have been busy, I am there. Reading a book would make no difference. We all say,”call u back” & shoot off to rescue our kids or stop our dinner from burning? Flight attendants have it tough on the friendliest of airlines-give them a break-or 5? Stressed staff don’t work well in any job but I want happy cabin and pilots flying me across the ocean.
It took 3mins 30sec for you to say "Emirates Employees can't use cellphones or read books". Yaaaaaawwwwwwn
Another question again. A follower in page said Qatar Airways rejected him on the 3rd round cause of a scar on his palm. He covered it from makeup and they told to wash and remove all. Is Emirates also that strict on it?
Hi there Sayuru! I have a scar over my upper lip, below my nose. They asked me how it happened and I explained.
That's before I got accepted and worked in Emirates. They aren't so strict if the scar isn't too big.
Plenty people join with huge tattoos over their shoulders. As long as you hide them well and don't mention them, you're fine! They don't check and they NEVER get you undressed for it.
The reason why Emirates forces its employees to wear round necked T-shirts under their shirts isn't just for concealing chest hair, also for hiding any tattoos that with a white shirt would be partially visible.
Hope I answered your question!
-Orlando @WishCasting
Re phones. At first I thought that’s not too bad, but when you books, magazines and newspapers are also banned I thought that is unreasonable. Are you allowed to read if you are on a break?
yes ofcourse you can also use your phone when youre on break. just dont let passengers see. but this video is pretty misleading.
This video is totally misleading and is based only on "Galley talk". You are not allowed to use your phone as a cabin crew because you are PAYED to be on board for the safety and security of yourself first your colleagues second then your customers. How can you make sure a crew member gives his/her 100% if ur constantly checking your phone and being distracted?
When you are on a 16 hour flight u have a minimum of 4 hours rest plenty of time to relax and sleep.
I am cabin supervisor and with Emirates for the last 9 years our job is not to report. If you report your manager will immediately ask you what did you do about it and if we did not have a conversation with the crew explaining what he/she is doing wrong then we will get in trouble because we are there as a support system to the whole crew. "Sometimes you get reported for things that did not even happen" is an excuse when a crew member uses when they have constantly been reported and hiding from their duties then all the work goes on the rest of the crew.
Uniform and professional image and your appearance if not in line with standards are addressed to each and every cabin crew including pursers, so what you are saying that one crew has roots and been reported while another one in the same flight has same problem and no one addressed it I kinda find it very difficult to believe. At the end Emirates is paying us a good salary to represent it's brand if you want to come to work in a dirty uniform, roots and pointy nails and then you have to serve food on board you should definitely find another job.
It's nice to try to get more followers and peruse a career on youtube however please when you do these videos get the facts right lying wont take you anywhere. Have a great day
- How can you make sure a crew member gives his/her 100% if ur constantly checking your phone and being distracted? /// Please read my pinned comment, you're just repeating what was already discussed/asked/etc
- When you are on a 16 hour flight u have a minimum of 4 hours rest plenty of time to relax and sleep /// That rarely happens to me to have a longer break than 3 hours on an a380 (3 crew rotations x 4 hours = 12 hours of sleep, so 3 services take 4 hours? I don't think so. If you're speaking about b777, that's a different story)
- If you report your manager will immediately ask you what did you do about it and if we did not have a conversation with the crew explaining what he/she is doing wrong then we will get in trouble because we are there as a support system to the whole crew. "Sometimes you get reported for things that did not even happen" is an excuse when a crew member uses when they have constantly been reported and hiding from their duties then all the work goes on the rest of the crew /// I can personally guarantee that, we've had experiences (me personally) of being treated unjustly, that is worth mentioning. If you watch the video in FULL, you'll find out that I stated "this doesn't happen often" and "it can be unfair at some times". If you want to argue, please find someone else to fight with. Everything I said on the video is absolutely true. Do you have any friends in Emirates? You should absolutely know that these type of CSVs exist. Rembember Joseph, you might be different from these bad CSVs, but they still do exist (I've had my deal with 1 CSV who made me apologize for being slow during my probation period, when we were testing a new service). He tried everything he could to crush me but the purser knew me personally and didn't listen to that CSV, he had to change my position for me to relax a bit. That CSV was a nightmare and there you have it, my example. My girlfriend has her own examples and we do not lie on these things. If you don't believe us, then have it your pure way
- Uniform and professional image and your appearance if not in line with standards are addressed to each and every cabin crew including pursers, so what you are saying that one crew has roots and been reported while another one in the same flight has same problem and no one addressed it I kinda find it very difficult to believe. At the end Emirates is paying us a good salary to represent it's brand if you want to come to work in a dirty uniform, roots and pointy nails and then you have to serve food on board you should definitely find another job /// We never mentioned anything regarding going to work unprofessionally. We spoke about Consistency. You got it all wrong.
I've flown with plenty of girls that had roots of different, non uniform or unnatural color, yet they didn't get told off. And I've seen crew getting told off for it all the same. I've witnessed it myself and don't need to convince you.
CONCLUSION:
You could've avoided the following mean comment "It's nice to try to get more followers and peruse a career on youtube however please when you do these videos get the facts right lying wont take you anywhere. Have a great day"
It almost sounds you're hired by Emirates to say this. We're here to portray 5 bad things crew are generally upset with. We're not saying that crew are excused for doing such things. THERE IS a massive difference in the underlying message. If you had friends that were crew (not CSVs or Pursers) and were close to them, they'd tell you their fears and you'd find that they are totally in line with what we say (at least for those 5 years I was employed), maybe things have changed and all is working great now and nobody reports anybody (I don't believe it though).
Wish you a good day too. I'm chilled, I come in peace.
And by the way, we love Emirates and we only say the truth. People should know the harder side of the job, not just the good stuff (my other videos prove how much I do love Emirates)
PAID, not "payed"
Pursue, not "peruse"
The hand from Adams family 😂😂😂😂
Aircraft is collective noun so you do not need to say or write aircrafts when there is more than one aircraft. It is like deer. One deer , two deer (not two deers).
Jesus! I’d hate to get trapped in a lift with you.
All said and done, I understand the hard routine and discipline in Emirates flight.
But Emirates is the BEST.
I have travelled in many others as well but for long I enjoy only EMIRATES.
BEST OF LUCK
Well said! Emirates is our first choice while flying too. Just not happy for what they did to our luggage on our last flight.
"Usually this happens on UK and US flights." - why am I not surprised🙄
What do you mean?
and I have been to some of these Emirates flights and saw some Emirates FA who never really smile. Now I understand they might have been in a bad situation with their supervisors... Sad.
or a disgruntled customer who pissed them off.
It is very important to point put that racism and offense comes from Cabin crew as well. it is well documented that there is a very high level of conscious or sub-conscious racism on how Emirates cabin crew treats Asian, African and sub continent passengers. Im sure the company invests a lot in high training standards but it does not show unfortunately. They have lost a lot of business lately to other carriers who have noticeably less of this racism problem. I have been to 100 countries and am frequent traveler on Emirates and the number of times ive seen a young white steward be culturally insensitive, tone-deaf or visibly differential in the treatment of certain nationalities is too many to count. People often have complained formally about this and yet the airline continues to hire the worst kind. very sad state of affairs.
whoever designed the ladies outfits is the real genius behind Emirates. Without them it would just be another airplane.
Emirates is my airline Im sorry to read the cabin crews are treated poorly. But after flying all these years I know all isnt what it appears in the airline industry
Shame on you for supporting such a vile slave-labour concern.
Just as a note- Indian airline passengers make up the largest demographic group that travel globally. I believe 30% or more of all airline travelers are Indian. So whether you would want to acknowledge it or not, they keep the airlines afloat. They aren't stupid either. If they have multiple bad experiences, they are plenty of other asian and middle eastern airlines to choose from and that has been happening more recently. So I would snap out of the default racist mentality if I were an emirates cabin crew and be a little more humane and civil. It doesnt cost anything to be nice. The world isn't blind and everyone can see when obvious subtle racism is at play, even if it is in the air.
sounds like typical work place politics.. no cell phone at my work place and u better not be caught reading magazines on the clock.. it better be a technical manual and would u believe for a first world country some people don't know that the handle on the toilet is for flushing
If you connect wifi in the sky and you get to know about someone's death how would you react? I feel it's good to not get in touch with the world when flying.
So you have to work while you're at work, follow rules that have been explained to you, and sometimes have to deal with difficult supervisors and customers? Sounds like normal working life to me...
IDK. The only time I saw a person be unruley to a cabin crew member was on one flight where there were assigned seats and they book different seats throughout the plane, and the crew member told them they had to wait until after take-off before they could move. Honestly, that's not too much to ask and is common procedure among most flights. Eventually the guy cooled down (and this was all mainly verbal, and we weren't even away from the gate so they could have easily escorted him off the plane if they wanted to). But other than that, I have never seen passengers be rude to cabin crew.
Well I’m a crew member in another airline that u r talking about, totally agree about all what u said.
But in the end i just say this our life and we have to accept it as long as we love flying ...
@Ibrahim Wazna imo yes, to an extent. We choose to what make us happy. Whether it be flying, or whatever it is that makes us happy. Being able to tolerate verbal abuse, catering to... It is our choice. Why? Because everyone has a special calling. With that calling, comes yet another blessing; tolerance. I went from FA to nursing. I knew my calling when I was 8 y/o. Oh, and btw, those of us who know/knew don't need trainning, other than who we chose to represent. It was already instilled in us. FA's are not just glorified waitresses, or waiters. They are also the E.R. in the sky.
But some cabin crew make photos during the flight and put it on Instagram, how can they do it?
They can't! But they can say their friends on the flight took the pictures with their phone, and then shared after the flight. No problem doing that.
Orlando @wishcasting
WishCasting but what about sky views? Who makes these photos? How can they do it?
What do you mean by sky views?
@@WishCasting out of the window
That’s understood that is boring for cabin crew in a 16 hours flight not having the little chance to use there phones ! But Also here in the hotels that I am a concierge desk in a hotel and my manager prohibits us from using our cellphones and also a hotel manager get upset if he catches us using our cellphone ! So to pay attention to all hotel guests if they have a question or need help !
My mother wants me to apply for a flight attendant job and i have extreme social anxiety and mental issues,i feel like i will fail everything here and wont be able to make it.. i also heard from someone that Emirates employees slept with some politicians or customers in order to get their job.. not sure if its true but if all that you're saying here is true, i will just stay far away as possible from this job. Thanks for the video, enjoyed it.
As ex emirates crew, if you have social anxiety or mental issues, I absolutely do not recommend this job. Especially this Company.
Although there are many good things that come with the job, everything Orlando has explained in this video is all true.
Emirates DOES NOT pays the best their crew. That I know 100% for sure. It's another major, non- Asian, international airline.
All due respect the crews main job isn’t to insure if we get hot coffee but the actual safety of the passengers and the aircraft .. and sounds like there is to much back stabbing within the cabin crew !!!
well...OF COURSE reading a book or having a cell phone in hand isn't allowed...and this is for many good reasons. As long a crew member is visible for the clients they are on duty and they need to appear busy, active and..well...on duty. And not bored or self-focussed. This is not only for flight attendants but for everyone working in hospitality business.
Actually I don't object to these rules. Flight attendants should be attending to the passengers and providing a commensurate level of service. Sounds like the usual story, staff moaning that the firm isn't run for them but the customers. Funny that.
16 hours flight. People sleeping. Let's offer a commensurate level of service to my fellow cabin crew :) People don't know this industry and label it moaning and entitlement, you really need to be part of the system to understand. Probably only crew can relate.