@@SitKid721 And they explicitly said the opposite literally a week before the beta launch when they said the POV1 team will be going back to POA one immediately when the beta is launched and about February Poe1 release " we will make sure that happens". This isn't them setting a release date and having to delay it because of whatever complication or issue where they want more polish. This is outright line about what they are working on versus what they are actually working on, All the while asking for money for shared supporter packs for both projects.
I don't play POE2 because I simply do not like it. A mix of not liking the endgame as its boring to not liking the trial system. Magic is just Spark builds. Melee is just HoI builds. Ranged is just lightning arrow. Super disappointed with this news.
do you really think in 6+ months they just couldnt find the time to throw any kind of league together? im not really buying it. i think they are intentionally holding back poe1 leagues because they dont want to pull any players away from poe2.
This is what I’ve been saying the whole time. A PoE 1 league would pull 80-90% of their “game testers” from PoE 2 and GGG just can’t afford to lose that many players to PoE 1.
Regarding leaks we've been saying on POE2 through 4chan, I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually not lying and instead what they're not telling you is that the management and directionless advances in the company have grinded all developments to such a crawl that while POE2 development is suffering, POE1 just straight up can't even be touched because of what is going on internally
Tbh, with such a proactive community filled with lots of modders and tool makers that makes stuff for fun and for FREE, its kinda surprising why GGG didnt "Hire" some small group to keep in touch with poe 1 balance and even creation of some tweaks like adding skill trees to armours/etc, and micromanaging custom events leagues/flashback events meanwhile Poe2 is cooking. Literal 0 effort which doesnt make sense tbh lol.
Anyone who waits will probably find that patch 3.26 is a terrible league because the developers will still be focusing on Path of Exile 2 (AKA Path of Exile 1 more visually appealing but less functional).
I understand that GGG is a smaller studio than the AAA games but come on... no one.... NO ONE figured out that having 2 liveservice games will take more people and more money than having one? POE2 is not compleat as it is now it will take 2 years to finish it in my opinion. POE1 will suffer and that is a fact unless they had atleast 2 Leagues planned beefore POE2 release! That is the problem! And i think we knew this will happen.
It doesn't matter if we knew that this would likely happen. They explicitly assured otherwise and when Peewee 2 is having problems, Poe2 needs to be the one to suffer than that they didn't plan. Or they need to just say explicitly Poe 2 is the focus and we are not developing PoE1 as a guarantee for now. The problem is not the fact that we knew this might happen. The problem is they explicitly said that poe1 was coming next while explicitly not even putting a single person to work on it.
@@MannersPlease Every one is riding the poe 2 train right cuz it's a new game once the hype train settles down we will see the actual numbers and I hope it would be worth it for them cuz they just lost the trust of many players Even I am regretting spend money on their supporter pack didn't knew they were literally gonna ignore poe 1
3.26 is honestly probably another 6 months away from us at the earliest unless they somehow actually start to haul ass on development but I really doubt it based on how things have been going so far.
The problem is not content. Poe 1 mechanicaly and skill system much better than POE 2 if they remove all content from POE 1. No prob poe 1 online user would still still be higher than poe 2
Now what I feared has happened. POE is dead and I don't like POE 2 at all. So I won't spend a cent more on both. I also hate being lied to. POE WILL NOT SUFFER FROM POE2!!!!
It’s hard to make excuses for GGG these days with how abundant their resources are. They aren’t this nichè indie team of friends out of Auckland like 2015 and it’s time we start holding them to their standards.
PoE 2 will not be released in 2 years they are absolute slugs with the changes and pretty much do nothing, the last patch could have been reduced to 3 rows and would have been the same Not sure why you received hate for your last video when you are looking at the things as objectively as possible and do not glaze over GGG
Man Digital Extremes should send GGG a fruit basket as a gift because I spent more money in december and january in warframe waiting for PoE1 league than I have in the rest of that year. Well I guess I go back to Warframe because nothing is happening till april/may. Also screw you Jonathan this is not about prediction about not being able to handle it, this is about delaying this announcement till tail end of January when it was obvious in december and should have been announced then.
I don't understand so much praise for those who only want your money and prove to be untrustworthy. It would be easy for them to release a recycled league, but they don't do it because they have the maximum number of players on Poe-2.
since Chris Wilson (99% sure) left the company last year GGG got the stamp of lying to the community is okay by their shareholders (all previous owners of GGG, Chris, Jon, Mark sold all of their shares in March24) I think this game will never be the same
I feel very bad to be honest... we (the poe 1 vets who spent a lot of money over the years to support the game we love so much) realy got screwed over with this one, yet again.
If they said this in december, or early january. The community would be in an uproar, but at least to Jonathan, it would be clear that PoE1 needs SOMETHING while waiting for PoE2 0.2. It would have given a skeleton crew a month to come up with leagues or events from yesteryear and just run those again, while we wait for actual new league. Now we dont get anything for PoE1 until 0.2 is out for PoE2, which could be AFTER february at this point. If then then still requires support for multiple weeks. THEN development start... we are seriously looking at late april to actually get a new league... 9 months of no love for the game that brought them the ability to make PoE2. Also as a reminder, I spend over 000 dollars on PoE 1!!! not PoE2! It already feels like it is being abandoned. Getting real Guild Wars 1 flashbacks... Please GGG. Change course NOW. Get a team of 5 people and create a simple league and release it NOW. It would actually give you MORE time for PoE2 as the pressure on delivering PoE2 content will be less. Also, if you play your cards right, the larger PoE2 community would actually try the older game as well possibly bringing more money into the company. Early access should be treated as early access and not as priority to deliver on. This is a big L, GGG. You have a lot of repairing trust to do now.
I saw this coming ever since they announced at Exilecon that they were now separate games. Johnathan has taken every opportunity he's had in interviews to shit on PoE 1. My conspiracy theory is Johnathan is doing this on purpose to try and kill PoE 1 so everyone will play his baby PoE 2.
@@milesschlage8768obviously cocky dude who doesn't know his team limits. He keeps breaking his promises. He made Blizzard look like the best developers. At least blizzard still do legacy season for D3. Him? Now he doesn't have any ideas on how to move PoE1 forward. No exact date given to new league because he's clueless.
@ I think PoE1 is a great game and once 3.26 is released I'll have alot of fun. I think PoE2 feels amazing and will have an endgame in the future that is completly different to what it is rn.
Releasing POE2 on December with it current state feels like a business decision 💰. Pylling devs from 1 to 2 is definitely a business decision. Highly doubt anything will progress to poe1 movong forward.
NGL this gives me flashbacks of Payday 3 - you have a great liveservice game that has been running for a long time and by the time they release the 3rd entry in the series, everyone jumps ship after months of lackluster nonsense I'm not saying GGG is as incompetent as Starbreeze and Overkill, but I am saying that management is 😅
They probably need to hire a 2nd Jonathon to run POE 1. They are trying to shoot for the moon in both games and its not working. They could even recycle an old POE 1 league with a coat of new paint and it would be better than nothing.
I guess it's impossible to please everyone. I think he is sincere and they are trying I haven't seen a dev as transparent as GGG. If you haven't made a comparison, go check out Blizzard and other AAA devs. I don't think GGG deserves all of this backlash HOWEVER, I do agree that they could at least serve us with refreshes and the occasional new league in POE 1 in order to keep the game flowing. It is apparent that POE 2 still has a long way to go and it is unfair to the player base to deny them of POE 1, especially if it is their preferred game. POE 1 will always be a special and very loved game, even if GGG would like everyone to accept POE 2 as the new and best, it isn't a good idea to force people into the new game. This could have the opposite effect. I mean, if they work on new content in POE 1, they can always take this great content over to POE 2. It is beneficial to keep POE 1 alive
just do any new league reset with some random shit added, i'd still play for example, another kalguur with +500% gold so we can pretend we can gamble in d2 and one of those crazy mods, like 20 exiles on every zone. i'd be happy to have another filler league with those 2 special mods.
Im not even angry, Im just sad that they tread PoE1 and its community this way. As they said they want to have 2 best game in the genre, PoE1 is 1st, PoE 2 is like 4th right now so they need to work on it. Sad that they didnt even restart season with something simply like legacy league. We dont need much as PoE1 players we just want something... We just wanted for them to show us they still care about their roots
I think the trouble is their games have grown faster than GGG has. From what I found, they have less than 150 employees, compared to bigger names that have thousands. Or maybe I'm wrong and that's enough to handle developing poe2 while still releasing new leagues 4 times a year?
Bottom line is that GGG doesn't have a good game to offer and has absolutely dysfunctional leadership that doesn't have the ability to make either of them work. R.I.P.
I genuinely believe too that he's disappointed their original schedule went out the window. Personally I'm not expecting to see a PoE1 league until the summer which for me is sad because I'm not overly enamored with PoE2 at least not in its current state. I guess D4 here I come for now? *barf*
I would have played POE2 if I could have, but will keep playing POE1 till I can switch over. I do agree that it would be nice if we at least had a few events to keep busy in till 3.26 comes out. Till then just having fun. :)
I'm not worried about this. I can play poe 2, other games, get some shit done at home and when 3.26 releases, I'll play it if it looks cool. People need to take a deep breath, it is a game, if you can't live without it you need to do some self reflection.
There was zero reason to hurry up poe2 open beta release. They should be doing what they were doing the whole time - release regular leagues and updates for PoE1 while in the meantime work with the majority of the resources on poe2. Nothing bad would happen if that open beta happened a month or two later. The game is still way off from being finished so it would not make any difference.
shit company... false promises with poe 2 Dev and mechanics.. Dont worry guys melee's fixed.. to false promises about poe 1 league.. me and my friends will never support GGG ever again no supporter packs no stash tabs etc.. all of us have spent a couple thousand on the game but never again wish i could refund poe 2 at this point
6-12 month for POE2 full release is completly unrealistic. Totally agree that end of 2026 is the EARLYEST date. And why does GGG treat PoE2 as it is a full released game? Put a team on PoE. Do a new league every 3-4 month. Keep developing PoE2 with frequent updates. I don't get it. And as someone who does not enjoy PoE2 i hate it
I am guessing 7/2026 for POE2 release (so they can get summer players, then do another league before Christmas). POE1 will be something in May .. then again in November. I agree with better updates for POE2 .. maybe every 2 weeks have a update post, and once a month a minor release .. and every 4 months a big reset. That's how I'd plan it.
Since Chris left the company, this game has been declining year by year. The fact that EA PoE2 was so well received at the beginning doesn't mean anything, but PoE 2 shouldn't even be an EA in my opinion.
They never said its 6 months Early Access. They actually didn't say anything about when the game will be finished. Its asid AT LEAST 6 months, would be a miracle. Another issue is, you can't spawn experienced developers like monsters in PoE. You only have that much resources to build on. These drama videos doesn't change reality. They are very transparent, and I am very sure they are very sad with the current situation. Most probably more sad as any player. We will not die without a few months without a new PoE1 league. There are so much other games coming out. Just relax guys, stop this insistence on something YOU GET FOR FREE!!!
At this point PoE 2 is missing classes, acts, endgame and the complete balancing, (performance, bugs yada yada) I don't see the game finished in a year and PoE 1 gets no new content in the foreseeable future so I don't know what they're doing there and how they think they'll sell MTX in 2025. I'm not that keen on watching content either for games I'm not planning to play shortly.
People are too spoiled nowadays, they want everything fast and now. Things don't get done so fast. Learn how to appreciate and have some patience. Let them take time and develop.
Wouldn't work, players want some balancing changes and at least some new content, they are used to it, and that's the problem with PoE1 players. They have already done a rerun Settlers and it amased 30k max players.
It would be very easy for them to put up leagues every 3 months, repeating old leagues. Why don't they do it? Or a compilation of other leagues, like "Legacy".
POE1 has never been better than it is right now. That GGG took off all the developers to try to put out the dumpster fire of POE2 is absolutely crazy. I have no idea what people are thinking when they say the game used to be better......look at the beautiful Atlas passives, abundant scarabs and more and more previous content you can access. You are completely out of your mind if you think that the game was better in 2022.
I wont be supporting ggg no more. Poe 2 is ass as it sits. And letting poe 1 go for 7 months+ with out a new leag is a disappointment. Now i spent over 20k dollars over the years. And i refuse to support a game that i can't even pass the t1 maps with out spending 200. Plus hours trying to get chaos resistantce and rarity because it's the most required stats in poe 2. After i hit the 230-hour mark, i said fk this game. But they are fing poe 1. So i will not be supporting them until further notice.
Bro spent 20k dollars on PoE1 and probably played it for a countless amount of hours, and yet you cant get past T1 maps after 200+hrs? Sounds like you've learnt absolutely nothing playing PoE1 and should rethink your financial decisions. Stop dooming, you'll get your PoE 1 league in due time; and then you can make your 15 different lvl 62 characters.
bro, not a fan of poe2 but come on, tf did you do to not be able to progress? do you have 15 characters or something? ignore rarity and get actual gear, even with 0 chaos res you can do all content
me too, thx, This is what these people are going to understand: that you don't spend your money and that you don't play, otherwise they don't understand.
The Cow thet made the most milk going to the slaughterhouse.. its so sad to see my favorite game where i have 6-7k h in just dont get the love.. over a stupid early acces bullcrap.. :(
They could simply just do a poll for what x league would you want to play again right now. Then patch that maybe make some meta tweaks and thats it... would be fun tbh
Take the following with a grain of salt, BUT, I believe that PoE2's arrival will kill overall quality of "trimestral" expansions we receive, simply because I believe that GGG has no intention (at least for the foreseable future) to allocate many more resources into the 2 games in order to perserve quality AND within their timeframe of release. When they announced PoE2 as a standalone game, i thought to myself that they would expand leagues to 6 month cycle and alternate between leagues for both game as a means to grow their profit and at the same time give more time for development. But it doesn't seem to be the case anymore (at least for now).
@@KoisoKoisado Ahhhh I see. Yeah but I honestly think it is crazy that they are developing whole time with two games in mind while their team barely grew in last couple of years. Also if they would say that it would be league every 5-6 months it would probably be fine and reasonable but they even said that they wanna make 3-4 month leagues for both games and just stagger them which at the time I was like "that ain't happening".
i still think poe 2 has no reason to exist, and they keep saying that the end game needs a lot of work, like... yes of course, but so does the base campaign, its soooo long and tedious i barely made it to mapping and i was sooo done, and the changes to the atlas and maps design and mechanics juts turned me away, and now im rotting in poe cause its getting extremely stale.... what a shitshow.
SSF player here. I am actually glad the season is being so long. I am almost achieving my first mirror ever through shipping. Just for fun. Imo they should take as long as they need and actually deliver a sizeable and good patch.
'we always keep our promises, it's just not on our priority'-- I will use it on anything Jonathan says from now on. It's all lies btw anything that Jonathan says with a very sincere face. They just checked, let's see how much ppl play poe2, hmm 100k ppl, let's see how much plays PoE1, hmm 10k ppl. well stop every PoE1 development and turn it on PoE2, not to mention they milked poe1 players but they didnt milk poe2 players yet. Tencent is tencent for a reason. There is no love for any game, only money. They send their game director or Chris himself to lie in the face of everyone so maybe they can keep both playerbase, if not, then 10k players minus, still have 100k in their other game.
Or hear me out they heard the playerbase say “wow we really like this campaign but man this endgame sucks I’m not gonna play until they fixed it” so they went wow wouldn’t it be nice if we had devs that were really good and knowledgeable about the end game of path of exile oh wait we do so they moved them over till they could get there shit together with the new devs
It's the understandably smart move to focus on PoE2 and getting v0.2.0 out as soon as possible. That is the game that needs the most work right now. That is the game that has the most viewers on Twitch and RUclips. It has the most players interested. I have some high expectations for this patch too, since it goes from v0.1.1 to v0.2.0 immediately, which is a rather substantial leap in version numbers for software development. I would expect that they are crunching hard to get that out the door as soon as possible, as they too can see the PoE2 players not logging in as much anymore, with this last week seeing the game for the first time dip under 200,000 concurrent players on Steam.
@@quincestopher8892 Never heard the. If that is possible they could just run 5 most popular leagues and let people join what they want. Everyone would be happy with that.
It shows how entitled gamers are when a company that has treated them so well can make one mistake and they start foaming at the mouth. I’ve read through the comments on a bunch of videos like this. If you’re upset over this break in content you have an addiction problem. Touch grass or play another game for a while.
BYE BYE! If they think that they will earn even 30% of the money they get from POE 1, they will find out soon how wrong they are. Poe 2 is a bad, ruthless mode with Dark Souls; no one will pay for it. I can bet 1 million dollars on it.
I hope you're right, because I hate poe-2 with all my might, and I've played it for the novelty, but I hate it because of everything that's happening because of it.
Exactly , atleast give us something else to do..... I lvoe poe 1 i cant stand poe 2 yet..... sorry but I would lvoe to play some flashback or something....
yea bro adding an event for Poe1 would easily solve the issue and most play for the currency endgame gear etc. They could set themselves up for wins, but I do appreciate GGG for saying hey guys this is what's up. Poe1 took time to be where it's at.... So will 2.
I don't understand so much praise for those who only want your money and prove to be untrustworthy. It would be easy for them to release a recycled league, but they don't do it because they have the maximum number of players on Poe-2. That's why I decided not to touch it, I played for about a month, but it seems like a bad game right now Poe-2. Even Poe-1 is better without a new league...
Imagine your new shiny toy has 30% of its content released, half of it is incredible bugged, playerbase dropping fast....and then you give up your main income source. Good luck GGG and Tencent, you need it. Let's see if the tourists carry your new toy league after league and buy enough MTX
if you had played poe1 in its early days you would realize all we had to do as "endgame" content was farm acts & dominus, besides that being absolutely horribly buggy and full of clunk it was truly mind numbing, poe1 took years and years to take shape into what players know and love today
playerbase dropping fast? What on earth are you talking about? POE2 on launch broke every single metric that POE1 has ever put up two-fold? and mind you, POE2 EA COSTS MONEY. they've made more off the launch of POE2 than POE1 has in the past 3 years combined as a very conservative estimate. you can be upset about poe1 being deprioritized, but stop being delusional.
we know they goonnaa leave Poe 1 soon ones Poe 2 gets leagues and more content they willjust bring seasons and some bug fixes without huge new Contents
The overreaction is crazy. It sucks not getting a new league, but how does this confirm PoE1 is left for dead forever? PoE2 is in EA and needs a lot of work. call PoE1 left for dead, when no league is coming while PoE 2 has been fully released
it shows that they dont want poe1. how hard would it be to throw together a legacy league or something? they could probably reboot sentinel league in a weekend. but they dont want to. i think they want nothing to distract from poe2.
It means that the more successful Poe 2 becomes the less work will be put into Poe 1. By them concentrating all of their resources on the second game it will likely draw more people to it and it will likely make GGG never go back to working on the first game. Anyway that is what they think will happen but a lot of people do not like the slower pace of the second game so that decision may as well bite them in their as, especially considering how coordinated and vindictive the playerbase can be.
Poe 2 is a ton of fun and a great starting point. I personally have no plan of playing poe1 anymore. People comparing the two knowing one is 10 years into development are being disingenuous.
watching this as a cod/warzone player just shows me how spoilt poe1/2 players are, u telling me u have 2 amazing games that the dev continuously update and the main dev makes a video to apologize that the older game is not getting an update in time boohoo come play some COD n u will see how good you have it 🤣🤣
My biggest issue not that they didn't even started to develop 3.26 league, they knew this but only now say this? They could say it month ago
They have known since June
@@SitKid721 And they explicitly said the opposite literally a week before the beta launch when they said the POV1 team will be going back to POA one immediately when the beta is launched and about February Poe1 release " we will make sure that happens".
This isn't them setting a release date and having to delay it because of whatever complication or issue where they want more polish. This is outright line about what they are working on versus what they are actually working on, All the while asking for money for shared supporter packs for both projects.
It took Ben_ making a video complaining about poe 2 for them to finally say something
Is it just me or did it start to go downhill since Chris didn't show up anymore?
@@Simplex_Kestian Yep, now they have the incompetent Jonathan. A marketing genius specialised in lying to their playerbase
Well two years ago it was said that Chris would be lead of POE1 and Johnathan would be lead of POE2. Now it seems Johnathan runs it all.
@@richardmcgowan1651 Chris left GGG a good while ago
Dead game since at least 10 years ago, even more dead with the release of D4.
Poe2 > d4 > 🗑> poe1
@@firstnamelastname1566 huh d4 has half the playerbase poe 1 has?? something doesnt add up here
what shocked me the most was the comment that 3.26 developement hasnt even started ... how was this league supposed to launch in october?
because they lie shamelessly, this GGG stinks
Because all he does is lie
Na guys, they can support both games with no issues… what joke ggg is gone, more like blizzard2
i was looking forward for 3.26.....
Big F
yeah sucks, poe 2 was alright but didn't scratch that poe 1 itch for me.
Huge F indeed
Just play d4 bro, it's the better game anyway.
@@firstnamelastname1566 1/10 troll
Not playing POE-2 is the best answer you can give to Tencent so that Poe-1 league will be released soon.
Its not delayed though, it's non existent.
I don't play POE2 because I simply do not like it. A mix of not liking the endgame as its boring to not liking the trial system. Magic is just Spark builds. Melee is just HoI builds. Ranged is just lightning arrow. Super disappointed with this news.
literally the same for poe1
Not even close. Goes to show you don’t play it
do you really think in 6+ months they just couldnt find the time to throw any kind of league together? im not really buying it. i think they are intentionally holding back poe1 leagues because they dont want to pull any players away from poe2.
This is what I’ve been saying the whole time. A PoE 1 league would pull 80-90% of their “game testers” from PoE 2 and GGG just can’t afford to lose that many players to PoE 1.
Regarding leaks we've been saying on POE2 through 4chan, I wouldn't be surprised if they're actually not lying and instead what they're not telling you is that the management and directionless advances in the company have grinded all developments to such a crawl that while POE2 development is suffering, POE1 just straight up can't even be touched because of what is going on internally
Yes, GGG made an uncommon decision (for them) to chase the money instead of looking out for the best interest of the game(s).
I said it from day one. POE1 is so much better and they will not improve it anymore because POE2 would look even worse compared to POE1!
We had a good couple of Years, people said we are doomers for thinking Poe2 is the end for alot of us :D
Poe1 is a snoozefest, bro; it doesn't even come close to d4.
Poe2 > d4 > 🗑 > poe1
Poe1 players =🤡
@@firstnamelastname1566 nice try im not falling for this xD
@@firstnamelastname1566 ok 🤡
@@firstnamelastname1566 stupido kidos
PoE1 dead, PoE2 simply not fun yet... I absolute hate it!
poe 1 is what made them a successful company. they should take more care of it.
best comment so far
Tbh, with such a proactive community filled with lots of modders and tool makers that makes stuff for fun and for FREE, its kinda surprising why GGG didnt "Hire" some small group to keep in touch with poe 1 balance and even creation of some tweaks like adding skill trees to armours/etc, and micromanaging custom events leagues/flashback events meanwhile Poe2 is cooking.
Literal 0 effort which doesnt make sense tbh lol.
i miss Chris Wilson.
Mark is a cool dude and shit but its just not the same 😞😩
Anyone who waits will probably find that patch 3.26 is a terrible league because the developers will still be focusing on Path of Exile 2 (AKA Path of Exile 1 more visually appealing but less functional).
3.26 will be uneventful if anything. They care only about PoE2. Dividing the community. Jonathan is a clown.
I understand that GGG is a smaller studio than the AAA games but come on... no one.... NO ONE figured out that having 2 liveservice games will take more people and more money than having one? POE2 is not compleat as it is now it will take 2 years to finish it in my opinion. POE1 will suffer and that is a fact unless they had atleast 2 Leagues planned beefore POE2 release! That is the problem! And i think we knew this will happen.
It doesn't matter if we knew that this would likely happen. They explicitly assured otherwise and when Peewee 2 is having problems, Poe2 needs to be the one to suffer than that they didn't plan. Or they need to just say explicitly Poe 2 is the focus and we are not developing PoE1 as a guarantee for now.
The problem is not the fact that we knew this might happen. The problem is they explicitly said that poe1 was coming next while explicitly not even putting a single person to work on it.
@@MannersPlease Every one is riding the poe 2 train right cuz it's a new game once the hype train settles down we will see the actual numbers and I hope it would be worth it for them cuz they just lost the trust of many players
Even I am regretting spend money on their supporter pack didn't knew they were literally gonna ignore poe 1
3.26 is honestly probably another 6 months away from us at the earliest unless they somehow actually start to haul ass on development but I really doubt it based on how things have been going so far.
poe 2/10
I disagree, but it's funny.
Agreed
Poe2 endgame is hardcore boring and 1 is dead, good job GGG 😂
The problem is not content. Poe 1 mechanicaly and skill system much better than POE 2
if they remove all content from POE 1. No prob poe 1 online user would still still be higher than poe 2
@ugurbabacan4068 you are straight delusional
Go play diablio
@@jesseherbert3477 hell yeah d4 s7 is awesome
Poe1 has been dead for like 10 years now, lmao. Poe2 and even d4 are far more superior games than the clownfest that is poe1.
Now what I feared has happened. POE is dead and I don't like POE 2 at all. So I won't spend a cent more on both. I also hate being lied to. POE WILL NOT SUFFER FROM POE2!!!!
It’s hard to make excuses for GGG these days with how abundant their resources are. They aren’t this nichè indie team of friends out of Auckland like 2015 and it’s time we start holding them to their standards.
They are catering to the new casuals in poe2. They don't care about the hardcore fans from poe1. GGG is Blizzard 2.0?
so sad 😢
they fucked up hard and this will become a massive dumpster fire I dont see POE2 being finished within the next 12 months from now
Tencent deserves that you don't spend another cent on their game. Do what I tell you. Otherwise, they won't listen to you.
PoE 2 will not be released in 2 years they are absolute slugs with the changes and pretty much do nothing, the last patch could have been reduced to 3 rows and would have been the same
Not sure why you received hate for your last video when you are looking at the things as objectively as possible and do not glaze over GGG
Man Digital Extremes should send GGG a fruit basket as a gift because I spent more money in december and january in warframe waiting for PoE1 league than I have in the rest of that year. Well I guess I go back to Warframe because nothing is happening till april/may.
Also screw you Jonathan this is not about prediction about not being able to handle it, this is about delaying this announcement till tail end of January when it was obvious in december and should have been announced then.
I don't understand so much praise for those who only want your money and prove to be untrustworthy. It would be easy for them to release a recycled league, but they don't do it because they have the maximum number of players on Poe-2.
I'm more scared that 3.26 is going to be a skeleton or an empty league... Unless they actually crush it. But either way, I will play it XD
Elon will be so proud that ggg chose to put everyone on poe2 ... Kiss poe1 goodbye/forgotten
since Chris Wilson (99% sure) left the company last year GGG got the stamp of lying to the community is okay by their shareholders (all previous owners of GGG, Chris, Jon, Mark sold all of their shares in March24) I think this game will never be the same
It sounds like they should've scaled up their studio before launching poe2 so they had more staff to work on both games
I feel very bad to be honest... we (the poe 1 vets who spent a lot of money over the years to support the game we love so much) realy got screwed over with this one, yet again.
Aww how cute! look at that baby dev struggling with his first deadline!
So tell us you can handle developing both games….. yet here we are. I hope I’m wrong but this feels like a slippery slope😥 I miss Chris
If they said this in december, or early january. The community would be in an uproar, but at least to Jonathan, it would be clear that PoE1 needs SOMETHING while waiting for PoE2 0.2.
It would have given a skeleton crew a month to come up with leagues or events from yesteryear and just run those again, while we wait for actual new league.
Now we dont get anything for PoE1 until 0.2 is out for PoE2, which could be AFTER february at this point. If then then still requires support for multiple weeks. THEN development start... we are seriously looking at late april to actually get a new league... 9 months of no love for the game that brought them the ability to make PoE2.
Also as a reminder, I spend over 000 dollars on PoE 1!!! not PoE2! It already feels like it is being abandoned. Getting real Guild Wars 1 flashbacks... Please GGG. Change course NOW. Get a team of 5 people and create a simple league and release it NOW. It would actually give you MORE time for PoE2 as the pressure on delivering PoE2 content will be less. Also, if you play your cards right, the larger PoE2 community would actually try the older game as well possibly bringing more money into the company.
Early access should be treated as early access and not as priority to deliver on. This is a big L, GGG. You have a lot of repairing trust to do now.
I saw this coming ever since they announced at Exilecon that they were now separate games. Johnathan has taken every opportunity he's had in interviews to shit on PoE 1. My conspiracy theory is Johnathan is doing this on purpose to try and kill PoE 1 so everyone will play his baby PoE 2.
Its good that they work hard on ruthless2 but damn can we get delve event or something
GGG is being more diablo like as time passes
since that guy has the lead of GGG, POE is a total mess .....he has to leave .
Because?
@@milesschlage8768obviously cocky dude who doesn't know his team limits.
He keeps breaking his promises. He made Blizzard look like the best developers.
At least blizzard still do legacy season for D3. Him? Now he doesn't have any ideas on how to move PoE1 forward. No exact date given to new league because he's clueless.
@ he got the best ARPG ever in his hands and wat did he make with it...? a desert with the first and a pure RNG boring game with the 2nd ......
@ I think PoE1 is a great game and once 3.26 is released I'll have alot of fun. I think PoE2 feels amazing and will have an endgame in the future that is completly different to what it is rn.
@@milesschlage8768because he cannot handle the job and he cannot be less transparent, i would say hi lies a lot
Releasing POE2 on December with it current state feels like a business decision 💰.
Pylling devs from 1 to 2 is definitely a business decision.
Highly doubt anything will progress to poe1 movong forward.
NGL this gives me flashbacks of Payday 3 - you have a great liveservice game that has been running for a long time and by the time they release the 3rd entry in the series, everyone jumps ship after months of lackluster nonsense
I'm not saying GGG is as incompetent as Starbreeze and Overkill, but I am saying that management is 😅
They probably need to hire a 2nd Jonathon to run POE 1. They are trying to shoot for the moon in both games and its not working. They could even recycle an old POE 1 league with a coat of new paint and it would be better than nothing.
No, they need a second Chris, please do not give me more jonathons
I guess it's impossible to please everyone. I think he is sincere and they are trying
I haven't seen a dev as transparent as GGG. If you haven't made a comparison, go check out Blizzard and other AAA devs. I don't think GGG deserves all of this backlash
HOWEVER, I do agree that they could at least serve us with refreshes and the occasional new league in POE 1 in order to keep the game flowing. It is apparent that POE 2 still has a long way to go and it is unfair to the player base to deny them of POE 1, especially if it is their preferred game. POE 1 will always be a special and very loved game, even if GGG would like everyone to accept POE 2 as the new and best, it isn't a good idea to force people into the new game. This could have the opposite effect.
I mean, if they work on new content in POE 1, they can always take this great content over to POE 2. It is beneficial to keep POE 1 alive
just do any new league reset with some random shit added, i'd still play
for example, another kalguur with +500% gold so we can pretend we can gamble in d2
and one of those crazy mods, like 20 exiles on every zone.
i'd be happy to have another filler league with those 2 special mods.
deli afliction sentinnel every map
Im not even angry, Im just sad that they tread PoE1 and its community this way. As they said they want to have 2 best game in the genre, PoE1 is 1st, PoE 2 is like 4th right now so they need to work on it. Sad that they didnt even restart season with something simply like legacy league. We dont need much as PoE1 players we just want something... We just wanted for them to show us they still care about their roots
I think the trouble is their games have grown faster than GGG has. From what I found, they have less than 150 employees, compared to bigger names that have thousands. Or maybe I'm wrong and that's enough to handle developing poe2 while still releasing new leagues 4 times a year?
Bottom line is that GGG doesn't have a good game to offer and has absolutely dysfunctional leadership that doesn't have the ability to make either of them work. R.I.P.
I genuinely believe too that he's disappointed their original schedule went out the window. Personally I'm not expecting to see a PoE1 league until the summer which for me is sad because I'm not overly enamored with PoE2 at least not in its current state. I guess D4 here I come for now? *barf*
I would have played POE2 if I could have, but will keep playing POE1 till I can switch over. I do agree that it would be nice if we at least had a few events to keep busy in till 3.26 comes out. Till then just having fun. :)
I'm not worried about this. I can play poe 2, other games, get some shit done at home and when 3.26 releases, I'll play it if it looks cool. People need to take a deep breath, it is a game, if you can't live without it you need to do some self reflection.
You = 🤡
There was zero reason to hurry up poe2 open beta release. They should be doing what they were doing the whole time - release regular leagues and updates for PoE1 while in the meantime work with the majority of the resources on poe2. Nothing bad would happen if that open beta happened a month or two later. The game is still way off from being finished so it would not make any difference.
shit company... false promises with poe 2 Dev and mechanics.. Dont worry guys melee's fixed.. to false promises about poe 1 league.. me and my friends will never support GGG ever again no supporter packs no stash tabs etc.. all of us have spent a couple thousand on the game but never again wish i could refund poe 2 at this point
I get whats happening but i cant help being upset still. Im praying we come out of this with 2 great games instead of one being on life support.
6-12 month for POE2 full release is completly unrealistic. Totally agree that end of 2026 is the EARLYEST date.
And why does GGG treat PoE2 as it is a full released game? Put a team on PoE. Do a new league every 3-4 month. Keep developing PoE2 with frequent updates.
I don't get it. And as someone who does not enjoy PoE2 i hate it
I am guessing 7/2026 for POE2 release (so they can get summer players, then do another league before Christmas). POE1 will be something in May .. then again in November. I agree with better updates for POE2 .. maybe every 2 weeks have a update post, and once a month a minor release .. and every 4 months a big reset. That's how I'd plan it.
Do fucking something relaunch an old league run some events anything is better then nothing.
Since Chris left the company, this game has been declining year by year. The fact that EA PoE2 was so well received at the beginning doesn't mean anything, but PoE 2 shouldn't even be an EA in my opinion.
it took 2 months to write the autocue
They never said its 6 months Early Access. They actually didn't say anything about when the game will be finished. Its asid AT LEAST 6 months, would be a miracle. Another issue is, you can't spawn experienced developers like monsters in PoE. You only have that much resources to build on. These drama videos doesn't change reality. They are very transparent, and I am very sure they are very sad with the current situation. Most probably more sad as any player. We will not die without a few months without a new PoE1 league. There are so much other games coming out. Just relax guys, stop this insistence on something YOU GET FOR FREE!!!
J is a nice guy but I think he talks through his heart rather than his brain (which isn’t a bad thing)
At this point PoE 2 is missing classes, acts, endgame and the complete balancing, (performance, bugs yada yada) I don't see the game finished in a year and PoE 1 gets no new content in the foreseeable future so I don't know what they're doing there and how they think they'll sell MTX in 2025.
I'm not that keen on watching content either for games I'm not planning to play shortly.
Cooooopiuuuuumm
Keep inhaling man, otherwise you might 💀...
what happend to the 50 mil gambling video? i was watching and then it was gone right in the middle :(
People are too spoiled nowadays, they want everything fast and now. Things don't get done so fast. Learn how to appreciate and have some patience. Let them take time and develop.
They could just do reruns of some popular league that was in poe1 in the meantime
deli affliction sentinel
Why would they do that? They want you to play poe 2
Wouldn't work, players want some balancing changes and at least some new content, they are used to it, and that's the problem with PoE1 players. They have already done a rerun Settlers and it amased 30k max players.
My favorite league is BETRAYAL
It would be very easy for them to put up leagues every 3 months, repeating old leagues. Why don't they do it? Or a compilation of other leagues, like "Legacy".
let's admit, poe 1 died long ago because last lore expansion was in early 2022
POE1 has never been better than it is right now. That GGG took off all the developers to try to put out the dumpster fire of POE2 is absolutely crazy. I have no idea what people are thinking when they say the game used to be better......look at the beautiful Atlas passives, abundant scarabs and more and more previous content you can access. You are completely out of your mind if you think that the game was better in 2022.
@@davidpowell3469 read those few words again, but now woth opened eyes, did i said poe 1 was better in 2022?
I wont be supporting ggg no more. Poe 2 is ass as it sits. And letting poe 1 go for 7 months+ with out a new leag is a disappointment. Now i spent over 20k dollars over the years. And i refuse to support a game that i can't even pass the t1 maps with out spending 200. Plus hours trying to get chaos resistantce and rarity because it's the most required stats in poe 2. After i hit the 230-hour mark, i said fk this game. But they are fing poe 1. So i will not be supporting them until further notice.
Bro spent 20k dollars on PoE1 and probably played it for a countless amount of hours, and yet you cant get past T1 maps after 200+hrs? Sounds like you've learnt absolutely nothing playing PoE1 and should rethink your financial decisions. Stop dooming, you'll get your PoE 1 league in due time; and then you can make your 15 different lvl 62 characters.
what a baby
bro, not a fan of poe2 but come on, tf did you do to not be able to progress? do you have 15 characters or something? ignore rarity and get actual gear, even with 0 chaos res you can do all content
You didn’t play that much bc u don’t even need resist fr in poe2
me too, thx, This is what these people are going to understand: that you don't spend your money and that you don't play, otherwise they don't understand.
The Cow thet made the most milk going to the slaughterhouse.. its so sad to see my favorite game where i have 6-7k h in just dont get the love.. over a stupid early acces bullcrap.. :(
My speculation is within a week. They will announce the Balance patch then release it a week after.
They could simply just do a poll for what x league would you want to play again right now.
Then patch that maybe make some meta tweaks and thats it... would be fun tbh
Take the following with a grain of salt, BUT, I believe that PoE2's arrival will kill overall quality of "trimestral" expansions we receive, simply because I believe that GGG has no intention (at least for the foreseable future) to allocate many more resources into the 2 games in order to perserve quality AND within their timeframe of release.
When they announced PoE2 as a standalone game, i thought to myself that they would expand leagues to 6 month cycle and alternate between leagues for both game as a means to grow their profit and at the same time give more time for development. But it doesn't seem to be the case anymore (at least for now).
Poe 1 league haven't been trimestral since sentinel and that was May of 2022
@GRIMHOOD99 hence the "trimestral" between brackets
@@KoisoKoisado Ahhhh I see. Yeah but I honestly think it is crazy that they are developing whole time with two games in mind while their team barely grew in last couple of years. Also if they would say that it would be league every 5-6 months it would probably be fine and reasonable but they even said that they wanna make 3-4 month leagues for both games and just stagger them which at the time I was like "that ain't happening".
I think good solution would be 6 monsts league for both poe1 and poe 2. You would play for 1 game for 3 months and another in the next 3 months
@GRIMHOOD99 right now I find that hard to believe. Once their team grows then maybe
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i still think poe 2 has no reason to exist, and they keep saying that the end game needs a lot of work, like... yes of course, but so does the base campaign, its soooo long and tedious i barely made it to mapping and i was sooo done, and the changes to the atlas and maps design and mechanics juts turned me away, and now im rotting in poe cause its getting extremely stale.... what a shitshow.
Billion dollar company ? They barely made 50mil from their report … they can’t afford to hire new devs
SSF player here. I am actually glad the season is being so long. I am almost achieving my first mirror ever through shipping. Just for fun. Imo they should take as long as they need and actually deliver a sizeable and good patch.
Good luck bro
I want poe 1 content :P im bored of the linear skill system of poe 2 already, let alone the huge minion system downgrade.
GGG has been going downhill since they let Jonathan get involved when Chris was doing things. Everything was pretty good.
Who ever is managing the behind the scenes needs to axe. Clearly bad management and PR. Betrayal of the community that build you.
Now We are waiting just One Announcement.
Poe 1 official servers shutdown announcement! When?
Time to go for Last Epoch then.
'we always keep our promises, it's just not on our priority'-- I will use it on anything Jonathan says from now on.
It's all lies btw anything that Jonathan says with a very sincere face. They just checked, let's see how much ppl play poe2, hmm 100k ppl, let's see how much plays PoE1, hmm 10k ppl. well stop every PoE1 development and turn it on PoE2, not to mention they milked poe1 players but they didnt milk poe2 players yet. Tencent is tencent for a reason. There is no love for any game, only money. They send their game director or Chris himself to lie in the face of everyone so maybe they can keep both playerbase, if not, then 10k players minus, still have 100k in their other game.
Or hear me out they heard the playerbase say “wow we really like this campaign but man this endgame sucks I’m not gonna play until they fixed it” so they went wow wouldn’t it be nice if we had devs that were really good and knowledgeable about the end game of path of exile oh wait we do so they moved them over till they could get there shit together with the new devs
It's the understandably smart move to focus on PoE2 and getting v0.2.0 out as soon as possible. That is the game that needs the most work right now. That is the game that has the most viewers on Twitch and RUclips. It has the most players interested. I have some high expectations for this patch too, since it goes from v0.1.1 to v0.2.0 immediately, which is a rather substantial leap in version numbers for software development. I would expect that they are crunching hard to get that out the door as soon as possible, as they too can see the PoE2 players not logging in as much anymore, with this last week seeing the game for the first time dip under 200,000 concurrent players on Steam.
they should just recycle previous league instead of giving nothing
Probably not even possible.
@yoooyoyooo they have said in the past they can re run old leagues with just a push of a button
@@quincestopher8892 Never heard the. If that is possible they could just run 5 most popular leagues and let people join what they want. Everyone would be happy with that.
Poe Killer
It shows how entitled gamers are when a company that has treated them so well can make one mistake and they start foaming at the mouth. I’ve read through the comments on a bunch of videos like this. If you’re upset over this break in content you have an addiction problem. Touch grass or play another game for a while.
This. Or simply play SSF. The game is so fun atm honestly
What company? Tencent or GGG?
BYE BYE! If they think that they will earn even 30% of the money they get from POE 1, they will find out soon how wrong they are.
Poe 2 is a bad, ruthless mode with Dark Souls; no one will pay for it.
I can bet 1 million dollars on it.
I hope you're right, because I hate poe-2 with all my might, and I've played it for the novelty, but I hate it because of everything that's happening because of it.
POE2 has almost certainly already earned them more money than POE1 has over 13 years
I just want stability in maps
Exactly , atleast give us something else to do..... I lvoe poe 1 i cant stand poe 2 yet..... sorry but I would lvoe to play some flashback or something....
Can we just get a league reset ? then you will have 3 months before we need 3.26
I think Jonathan Rogers should resign! Wont be spending another penny on GGG and will delete PoE 2.
How about take another vocation to fix problems😂
yea bro adding an event for Poe1 would easily solve the issue and most play for the currency endgame gear etc. They could set themselves up for wins, but I do appreciate GGG for saying hey guys this is what's up. Poe1 took time to be where it's at.... So will 2.
i mean lets do afliction deli sentinel or something
I don't understand so much praise for those who only want your money and prove to be untrustworthy. It would be easy for them to release a recycled league, but they don't do it because they have the maximum number of players on Poe-2. That's why I decided not to touch it, I played for about a month, but it seems like a bad game right now Poe-2. Even Poe-1 is better without a new league...
Imagine your new shiny toy has 30% of its content released, half of it is incredible bugged, playerbase dropping fast....and then you give up your main income source. Good luck GGG and Tencent, you need it. Let's see if the tourists carry your new toy league after league and buy enough MTX
yea poe 2 has smaller player base. POE 1 is HUGE PLAYERBASE. They choose wrong side.
if you had played poe1 in its early days you would realize all we had to do as "endgame" content was farm acts & dominus, besides that being absolutely horribly buggy and full of clunk it was truly mind numbing, poe1 took years and years to take shape into what players know and love today
playerbase dropping fast? What on earth are you talking about? POE2 on launch broke every single metric that POE1 has ever put up two-fold?
and mind you, POE2 EA COSTS MONEY. they've made more off the launch of POE2 than POE1 has in the past 3 years combined as a very conservative estimate.
you can be upset about poe1 being deprioritized, but stop being delusional.
Poe 2 players: 125k
Poe 1 players: 6k
@@ugurbabacan4068 lol ? u drunk?
we know they goonnaa leave Poe 1 soon ones Poe 2 gets leagues and more content they willjust bring seasons and some bug fixes without huge new Contents
i mean im not playing poe 2 i dont enjoy it. so i guess the games dead now
The overreaction is crazy. It sucks not getting a new league, but how does this confirm PoE1 is left for dead forever? PoE2 is in EA and needs a lot of work. call PoE1 left for dead, when no league is coming while PoE 2 has been fully released
Simply look at last 2+ years of PoE1 its been only downhill
classic doomer reaction.
i think they are very transparent and clear that a new league is coming. just delayed
it shows that they dont want poe1. how hard would it be to throw together a legacy league or something? they could probably reboot sentinel league in a weekend. but they dont want to. i think they want nothing to distract from poe2.
It means that the more successful Poe 2 becomes the less work will be put into Poe 1. By them concentrating all of their resources on the second game it will likely draw more people to it and it will likely make GGG never go back to working on the first game. Anyway that is what they think will happen but a lot of people do not like the slower pace of the second game so that decision may as well bite them in their as, especially considering how coordinated and vindictive the playerbase can be.
Not delayed, it's Deadge o7
Poe 2 is a ton of fun and a great starting point. I personally have no plan of playing poe1 anymore. People comparing the two knowing one is 10 years into development are being disingenuous.
watching this as a cod/warzone player just shows me how spoilt poe1/2 players are, u telling me u have 2 amazing games that the dev continuously update and the main dev makes a video to apologize that the older game is not getting an update in time boohoo come play some COD n u will see how good you have it 🤣🤣
Poe2 so bad even elon musk could be one of the top players without cheating if he didnt hate the game that is XD