I dunno how to feel about this new Final Shape exotic armor.
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- bungie teased 3 new exotics, one per class, coming in final shape. i give my reaction and first impressions. so far... eh.
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The issue with these trailers is that they don't show the full perk description. This is an exotic where they need to show full perk or else it's current sentiment where people saying it's trash
Even then, you can look at a full exotic perk in game and not get even half the information you would get from say looking at it in DIM. Bungie needs to overhaul all their exotic armor and weapon perk descriptions to give accurate and helpful information.
What Bungie needs to do: Stop doing trash tier exotics
Just look how old are the meta exotics.
Its called a teaser for a reason, the community needs to change their sentiment
Yah I mean it doesn’t matter for us though, we’ll be here. It’s to make a flashy trailer to grab people in
@@cshadekillerproductions reminds me of souls' games vague descriptions on rings and talismans
For the Hunter exotic, it doesn't look like it packs a ton of damage. Those explosions didn't seem to kill anything off the rip, but if it's spammable with Flow State and Lethal Current? We might be able to just throw out a ton of nonsense for virtually no cost.
Exactly where my mind went. Idk if I'd use it over Assassin's Cowl, but if the damage is high then yeah
Im also wondering if they jolt or blind as well. There could be a utility play
Tempest strike is already super slept on for pretty much anything but a GM and maybe some Master nightfalls. I'm looking forward to it.
if it did too much damage they would nerf it into the ground within a month anyway
they feel like exotics abilities they wanted for the prismatic class item and decided to make the full exotics incase people wanted them. to me none of them feel good as stand alone exotics. if the hunter exotic made skip grenades instead of mini bouncing mines that would be better. we will see how this behaves with my shinobus vow build, but im not holding my breath that it will do much.
I want an exotic that makes gjallarhorn rockets come directly from my face.
I can potentially see the Titan exotic having Gjally synergy.
"Oh my..."
@@JuggerToad Why would an exotic armour piece have synergy with a perk that clearly states non-exotic rocket launchers get wolfpack rounds? This is a chest piece, not a rocket launcher, lmao.
@@confiteor266 Rockets go brrrr, that's why
@@confiteor266 while its says only legendary rocket launchers on gallys perk are affected, the rockets may be programmed by the same way as legenday rockets and may become a feature which could be very very cool
They turned Failsafe into an exotic chestpiece.
that was also my first thought
imagine if the chest piece talked
@@SavathunSussyImpostor
Imagine that’s true and you put in the Wish Wall the Wish that makes Failsafe Narrate you doing the Last Wish Raid lmao
The Warlock chest HAS to have a second part to the perk. I remember when Swarmers was teased it only showed the 2 threadlings from a tangle. We only learned of the Unravel thing after it released. If that exotic has a second part that grants melee energy on suspend kills (or suspending enemys idk) then it might actually have a play. If not, then it's dead on arrival. And nobody is using this on prismatic, Datto, be fr.
IDK if he was saying it was gonna be good on prismatic. just that its a likely rationale for why bungie made the thing. cause prismatic has no suspend source on warlock from what we know. So they offloaded that capability to an exotic.
Yeah no it has to have a second part otherwise it’s just pretty lame
anything "energy" related on an exotic is a shit exotic. it should always have a new mechanic and animation or else what's the point
@@SmokinTonic Starfire protocol continues to say otherwise lol. Granted, it gives you a second charge on Fusion nades, but the energy it returns from empowered damage and grenade kills makes the exotic flow wonderfully in add dense environments. I've been carrying with it in onslaught, 700+ kills and over 250 orbs every 50 run on legend.
@@SmokinTonic A new twist on a playstyle should always be the point of exotics, energy return is just a nice bonus.
Warlocks: rope-jitsu
Titans: MLRS
Hunters: "so we heard you liked the bombardiers" (nobody uses the bombardiers)
Guys help i angered all 4 bombardier users 💀
Look you may be my favorite scout rifle, but I won't stand for this Bombardier slander.
I won’t stand for this for my stasis pvp build
@@benjaminmiller3523 they made hung jury brave instead of me because they weren't ready for my truth.
@@No_Feelings real talk, No Feelings or Patron would have been leagues better choices than Hung Jury. But also, your truth sucks. My bomb pants are wonderful!
On my hunter the bombardiers don’t come off
For the titan exotic, they might just be doing it for flavor because “rockets go brr” but the titan does pull out a rocket launcher right after the barricade rocket volley launches so maybe it has some kind of interaction with rocket launchers. Like a brief moment of extra damage or something? Idk, just coping right now because they all seem kinda underwhelming
All destiny players are coping
@@omensoffate always have been
I was thinking rally barricade might give rockets tracking
Imagine it gives a watered-down Wolfpack Rounds
The amount of coping on the comment section is mesmerizing
Just call when you see it.
I did note that the Warlock only used the Arcane Needles on Champions. So hopefully enemy tier is a factor in how many Needles is needed for the Suspend.
Perhaps: 1 needle = minors, 2 needles = elites + Guardians, 3 needles = minibosses/champions
people on twitter are saying it looks like the amount of needles you put into something extends the range of the suspend. The suspend range looks pretty large in the trailer when they put all 3 into the champs so i hope that’s the case
@@YeatGaming69 Also a possibility. I don't see a need for this exotic in the meta but it gives people options I guess.
@@Sabre5106 I dont think Prismatic Locks have a way to suspend on prismatic.
I hope they undo the nerfs to suspend at least for red and orange bars
@@SavvyMon4you do realise the 1 second suspend IS ONLY for stuff like champs…?
I feel about these. You know. I have a feeling idk what it is but I feel. A feely feel the feels... Feely
I too feel like these exotics will do...things. Of the thingy variety.
@@MrZuriax I three have feelings about these and the things they may or may not do
Ok, Jeff the Killer
I smell a smell. A smelly smell that smells… smelly - A crab on ketamine
as an arc hunter main, finally having an exotic that isn’t raiju’s, lucky raspberry, raiden, shinobu’s…. wait a second
My first time ever seeing someone mention raiju in a sentence, that exotic was banished to the shadow realm the moment they released it.
@@uzan6893 honestly the only use i’ve ever found for it is PVP. killing one or two dudes and then shutting it off is an alright option in 6v6. other than that it’s entirely useless
Strand and stasis hunters waiting for a useful pve exotic
@@uzan6893 Hey, it's also used for fashion purposes sometimes lol
@@MrThinks2Bombardiers kinda? Otherwise just neutral stuff
I think these exotics also will have other secondary effects that aren’t as flashy or can’t be shown. My example of this is cyrtarachnes facade which grants woven mail (easy to show in a trailer), and flinch resistance (difficult to show in a trailer)
Warlock chest should be how it works by default
Most warlock exotics are like that
Let him cook
Right ? Its lame af
Y'all just want everything free huh?
I thought it was cool until I seen you had to hit all three to get the suspension
Mataidoxia could be good if its built in a way similar to Second Chance. If Suspending enemies gave you melee energy, or if getting a kill with a melee also triggered the effect, it could help contribute to a heavy suspend focused build that would be a sidegrade for the braindead weavers+necrotic+osteo.
Gifted Conviction could be ridiculously strong if it procced on Lethal Current's melee or on dodge. If it's only Tempest Strike or Ascension I think it might be an underwhelming meme exotic.
I really want Hazardous propulsion to have some sort of synergy with Wardcliff or Grand overture similar to what Hunter has with Moths or Warlock has with Weapons of Sorrow. Like firing them while standing behind a barricade sends out another wave of missiles.
I’m thinking with hazardous the secondary perk might be that using your class ability also reloads rocket launchers or the next rocket you use after using a class ability deals more damage, since we see the Titan using a RL right after using the barricade
The titan exotic synergy would be like gjally but for specific exotics, which would be great. The hunter exotic will be great for add clear and big burst damage hopefully if it procs on lethal current and the other arc melee aspect
I hope it's not built like second chance, that thing is actually terrible because it doesn't give you any extra melee recharge, only a second melee ._.
Warlocks got the Titan exotic treatment and the backlash shows this
Titan or Hunter exotic treatment yeah, basically same thing
Hopefully warlock chest maybe gives us melee energy back for killing suspended enemies, or some other effect, just adding suspend to melee is dumb
For the warlock one, I'm guessing that adding more melee to the same enemy, increases the radius of the suspend detonation. So you can probably suspend with 1 melee I'd guess. Otherwise, it's going to be absolute garbage. Even if it works the way I think it might, it still might not be all that amazing honestly
It might also be melee energy on suspended kills
If you can suspend someone with a single melee it will cause problems in pvp.
I'd wager it requires multiple charges, and give some sort of melee recharge. It probably also works with a final blow from the melee.
It's obviously going to be trash they're treating warlocks like they treat Gambit . They're going to Nerf well of radiance and the new super is a worse version of the D1 super.
Or you could effortlessly suspend with your exotic bow and not waste your time with this POS armor chest piece.
My guess for the warlock is that kills will activate the burst in one arcane needle and for the beefy targets like champs it will require the 3 consecutive like the video.
Potentially having diff tiers of enemies create different size bursts. They have been doing that tiered stuff a lot recently.
Ok so I think the warlock chest is underrated because of its usage on threadling builds. If you are running a threadling build and the aspect that gives threadlings on rift the main problem is uptime for that rift. You want to get it back as quick as possible but the only thing that does that in the class is a fragment that requires suspends. The only way to get suspends enough to make it worth it is to eat a shackle grenade with mindspun meaning you are not running weave walk and have to burn a grenade on not threadlings.
If you run this you can run that fragement, use Weavewalk, a threadling grenade and the build something to build around which is melee charges. If you need a rift suspend a target and kill it. If you need to perch threadlings use Weavewalk. I am already using Monte Carlo for the threadling build so this seems like a really nice slot in for that build alone.
For the Titan, I’m curious at specifically calling the Exodus Rockets - I’m wondering if this will be another hidden interaction exotic with a new exotic rocket launcher involving exodus rockets.
So long as the warlock has a good passive effect I could see it, also, in the first clip it looks like the range might actually be insane on the explosion. I’ve come to the conclusion that Arc hunter is the most boring class aesthetically, and the exotics mirror that.
if it depends on the target i think it would be good. kill a red bar get the suspend but bigger targets require more needles. the other 2 seem fine to me
For the titan exotic. It would be good if it applied subclass effects on hit. ie. Slow on Stasis, weaken on void, scorch on solar etc.
The hunter exotic looks like it the explosions have a chain reaction type effect. The secondary explosions.
I'm wondering how that titan exotic will synergize with the aspect that sends out a suspension wave when you deploy your barricade.
Does it suspend before the rockets come out? If so.. that'll be really nice
for the Titan exotic I think there was 7 explosions on the dodge whereas there is 6 rockets on the shield, so maybe kills increase the number of missiles? I think the Warlock exotic triggers the suspend explosion upon triggering a suspend.
I’m hype for that Titan one. They’re gonna have to make it hit like a fucking freight train for it to be viable, but at least it’s cool.
How is khepris 2.0 cool?
@@omensoffateBecause unlike khepris it actually hits stuff due to tracking. Besides, arc dodge triggers it. If they somehow turn out to not be absolute dogshit, they could have some play...in pvp. Not in pve, not at all.
@Le_Canker Unless the rockets actually use keywords. If the rockets would scorch or suppress or something it could still be usable in PVE, but I imagine it'll be straight trash because it's a Titan exotic and if it isn't it'll be nerfed to be trash before you know it.
@@jhempit’s gonna be busted asf for the first week and then they will nerf it into uselessness and you’ll never use it again.
@theotherbacon That is the way of thr titan
Titan wall firing rockets is so funny
I could see the titan one applying a subclass class specific debuff, like suppress, blinded, slow etc
Not sure if anyone's pointed this out but the Titan exotic does look like it works with Arc dodge, its in the first example at 6:30 but kinda blends in with the ogre slam
If the rocket barricade goes something along the lines of "dealing damage with the rockets grants class ability energy" there could be some good use cases. Im thinking void titan with overshield and devour + either bombers for more grenades or utility kickstart
I hope that the little bombs dropping applies to the damage resist dodge and maybe pairable w lucky pants but i doubt it
i know exactly how i feel.. the warlock chest visually is very nice.. as for the perks themselves they kinda feel = to aspects
Y’know, Armamentarium was the very first D2 exotic armor I got, and it’s what my Titan is wearing today. With the way I play, unless I’m going into something very specific, nothing has proven to be more CONSISTENTLY useful than just giving me another grenade. 🤷♂️
Then you just don’t know how to build craft
I only use Armamentarium on void Titan these days, and only because void-play HEAVILY revolves around grenades (proccing volatile rounds, weakening, etc). With the new BRAVE weapons and the origin trait, I find simply having a deeper "well" of grenade energy to fill with all the ridiculous sources of grenade energy regen void Titan has access to (offensive bulwark, devour, and indomitability) to be the most useful.
PREACH!
Try Heart of Inmost Light with Onslaught Weapons, high discipline stat, good mods and subclass build-crafting. You’ll create a very powerful gameplay loop that buffs both ability potency and regen. You’ll go infinite on your abilities and never have to worry about orbs of light if you have a firepower or similar mod.
the thing with arma is once you throw 2 grenades back to back it doesnt do anything until you get both back
Were any of the lightfall or witch queen exotics any good? Other than the pyrogales and that one warlock helmet can’t remember the last time we got a good exotic.
4:24 better devils is 100% coming back because it’s shooting strand and in the twid where they showed off the new buff ui they show a strand hand cannon with one quiet moment (crucible origin trait)
Also old better devils doesn’t have osmosis or permeability and there running arc in the clip
Would be cool if needlestorm also works with the warlocks exotic.
It would also be cool if they are added to the exotic class item spirit pools.
Because if so I'd run the hunter one with 6th coyote so i can do two spins that amp me jolts them and launches those nades
I saw these this morning and was impressed but unsure how to feel now that my opinion is here I feel alot better, thanks Datto
I definitely think the Titan exotic will be a good way to encourage me to use the barrier more. Especially when survivability in D2 revolves around using hard cover and moving about, my barrier often stays on cool-down not doing anything, so I really like the idea of this exotic because it allows me to salvage some value that would often otherwise go completely unused.
That's why Thruster shouldn't be arc specific since Thruster takes way less time to use. The barricade has forever been annoying on account of it always taking too long to put down when I really need it down, but the arc thruster is able to give you momentum and dodge quickly which saves me more than the barricade does.
the way i see it, the Warlock chest is basically a free Aspect. it lets your melees proc Suspend like the Aspect does and can either free up that Aspect for a different two on Strandlock, or give Prismalock access to easy Suspend
For the Warlock exotic, if it could be similar to Getaway Artists allowing get suspension with melee while running other expects.
a very niche case for the new titan one, the behemoth avalanche spam, where you loop your class ability with your avalanche nade and modified upper cut to just loop them all and AoE crash through mobs and elites
I hope that Titan Exotic has hidden synergy with a weapon. It specifies "exodus rockets" so I'm hoping there's a new exotic rocket launcher that also fires exodus rockets.
Copium
I believe the Exodus rockets are a reference to the Exodus Black, aka Failsafe's ship. And I noticed the Failsafe design on the chest piece
@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 I want it to do subclass verbs that would be nice also if it is failsafe related it would be cool if she was in the armor and talks on occasion like how the worm talks randomly in that one grenade launcher
@@rithvikmuthyalapati9754 Ah dang if it's just a connection to Exodus Black and nothing else that's disappointing. I just want Titans to finally have a hidden synergy exotic combo. Like with Necrotic + Osteo/Thorn for Warlocks or Mothkeepers + Ex Diris for Hunters
For the warlock chest, maybe one makes a small detonation and three makes a big detonation
Yeah if kills shortly before class ability for the titan exotic would increase number or damage of rockets (or both), it could actually be super interesting
I’m just saying I might be wrong but I think spirit of the bear on the titans exotic bond might be hinting at a new exotic coming for titans since it give super energy for the damage “the unbreakable shield” takes which is the titans new aspect yet no one has mentioned this
Titan one might be good, but if you get your class ability back if all rocket hit something that might be better
I would like my rift to send a strand wave when I place it. Similar to how stasis does the freezing effect, that’d be great lol
I've gotta see Datto's reaction to the new trace
I assume each has secondary perks as well. They seem to want every exotic armor to have at least 2 affects, not only for the ability to use their spirit for exotic class items but also to improve viability. My default assumption is the armor pieces will also have ways to get energy back for the required abilities but who knows
the hunter chestpiece might be huge if it works with flow state, since if it does, flow state procs off kills with volt shot weapons.
I think each will be pretty ok in their own regards, its just how they would be used and how they would actually function.
The titan one looks like it would be fun for an ignition/radiant, incandescent build icl
I know for a fact that other than pheonix protocol, I will not be wearing any mono exotics because exotic class items are freeing up my robe options (yay) and I can finally fashion my main character (I love my pheonix protocol ornament)
We only see what they do, not the full description yet. We shall see, but some of them do seem underwhelming. The Titan one though looks dope and could have some fun with that lol.
The warlock chest piece combined with lightning surge tho 👀
We’ll probably get a deep dive Thursday, explaining things in-depth.
For the hunter one it looks like jts just the jolt that’s clearing the ads and not the actual exotic
Of the rockets can escalate damage maybe there is a play. Number of kills, matching elemental, ability kills, something.
was the enemy hit by the missiles stunned? maybe they have anti champ properties
For the warlock exotic, it looks like it takes all three, which is redundant when the fragment for eating your grenade literally exists, not to mention the new bow that suspends as well. Kinda feels like they're just running out of ideas and this is going to be a GREAT exotic for the new prismatic subclass since it probably won't have access to grapple grenade BUT will have access to needle shot. Who knows. All I know is that it reminds me of Alchemist Raiment on the back.
I'm curious if the exodus rockets stack with roaring flames...if so that could be a really silly build
The new void Titan aspect was supposed to use your class ability like thruster right? So with the new exotic you could block and fire rockets theoretically.
I like the hunter chest it kinda looks cool and is a reason to run the new aspect
One way to make that warlock chest better add “killing suspended targets with super refunds super energy”
The titan one should've turned your Q into a charging headbutt.
These exotics look basic as a base exotic. Ideally they are in the Exotic Class items and just weren't listed last week due to spoilers for new gear.
If this chestpiece is available as Spirit of Mataidoxia, and ANY charged melee hit suspends, this would be insane with the sliding Arc melee.
If they were, I think bungie would just have cases with "censored" or something like that. Hopefully I'm wrong
Fr. The warlock and hunter exotic traits should have been subclass aspects.
Mataidoxia would let me make a pretty good weavewalk build, since I normally keep the wanderer on, but weavewalk only having 1 fragment slot.
Thanks Datts!💙
All these exotics will do more. The warlock one probably gives you melee energy on suspension kills Ala dawn chorus
"Titan version of the bombadiers" is interesring to think about.
Saw a meme about how the titan and hunter exotics are just the bombadiers but they probably dont have subclass synergy
I completely forgot about khepris horn because its literally useless
So now titans and hunters get an exotic that they already have, and warlocks get an exotic for a thing they already excel at
I love your Hunter reaction…and how they shoot and hit nothing right before they show it.
A lot exotic armour is getting a buff in Lightfall. For example, Armamentarium will allow grenades to generate orbs of power, which in turn grants grenade energy.
A thougt has just occurred to my sleep deprived brain. The titan exotic may proc off of the dodge ability, which could be super funny
7:35 nah, im bout to make a colossus set up 😂😂
Put on Skyburners and this exotic with a ton of transmog that makes me look like a Cabal Colossus 😂😂😂
titan when he’s fighting the ogre he does a dash back then launched missiles so twilight with explosives then it also launched off barricade something interesting is do these rocket work with other perks like Ghorn it looks the most fun out of the 3.
Another question is are these perks in the double exotic class item cause the titan one suspending the firing missiles or launch a fire wave an missiles off a barricade could be fun
That was arc thruster not twilight garrison. Just the arc class ability. It's neat, but the only way it's usable is large damage, elemental keywords, or something unrelated to the perk like enhanced rocket launcher damage(seems possible given the rocket he fires off), class ability cooldowns, or some kind of debuff. It said "exodus" rockets which feels like it should be significant, but until we get more info it's unclear.
I woke up because I had a dream Datto posted a new video
I’m assuming yes the hunter one works with any arc aspects.
I’m almost certain that if you need to land all three needles, there’ll be something in the exotic that gets your melee back faster (or it will be buffed to do that after player feedback).
Titans will look at this and go "hell yeah"
The only one that interests me is the titan exotic. It really depends on how much damage the rockets do though. Cause if its not good im just gonna use the exotic class item instead.
Mildly interesting exotics, seem to be played very safe in a dlc that is marketing itself as the one where we get to go all out
they should call the titan chest the eyes of yesterday
I’m just excited to fulfill my mech titan fantasy.
finally another 2 burst hand cannon, hopefully with some ad clear perks
Class ability can also be thruster for Titan.
They gotta add a little more these abilites by themselfs are very flat do they debuff, at all do they mix with anything? i feel like this is how abilities should already be expanded and maybe they should make new light debuffs or buffs for these.
Is that failsafe on the Titan chest? Especially with it saying Exodus rockets.
Woah, great catch!
Every time something shot rockets so far that was not a rocket launcher was top tier so far
Warlock: mid
Hunter: Meh, I can make it work prob
Titan: holy sh..
The Titan exotic missiles should blind like the big ass cabal with the Gatling guns and the blinding rockets
I wish Better Devils was normal kinetic instead of Strand. Seems like they’re reprising SO MANY primaries as strand and stasis instead of keeping them as they were. Plain kinetic weapons are great. I’m getting fewer and fewer options for chromatic fire haha
Does anyone know if we’re getting more exotic armour other than these three
I think that prismatic is going to be quite weak due to the limited aspects and fragments. My guess as that it will be built around taking a power level hit in the neutral game in exchange for access to the powerful transcendence. I could be mega wrong on this though. Also I expect that the artefact mods will probably be the thing to make prismatic broken.
New Titan Exotic + Drengrs Lash + Kepris Horn
honestly the weirdest thing to me about these trailers is the hunter shooting a single handcannon shot at 3 different targets, like is that part of the activation or did the bombs not do enough damage to kill an add so they had to weaken them first or what
I just hope you get a few more exotic weapons. We already know almost all of the exotics such as red death, the D1 assault rifle, the golden gun sniper, and the traveler trace rifle. None of these have been a secret. I hope they have a few more in stock for us not including the raid exotic or echos episode exotic
I know it won't happen, but I'd like to have a burst damage super exotic armor for Warlocks. (Celestial Nighthawk/ Pyrogale/CotFS)
I'm assuming that these trailers only show the main perks and that there is some secondary perks at least to the warlock and hunter ones idk about Titan that feels pretty simple and complete. Hopefully that's the case and the secondary perks save these exotics b/c as they are they are probably not going to see much play.
My view on these is that these exotics look underwhelming because they're not meant to be the core of a build or playstyle. rather, they're meant to be incorporated into other playstyles and bolster what you're already doing. The titan exotic caught my eye the most, it looks like its element neutral which could then ask the question if the missiles take on the element of your subclass. If so, can they interact with elemental debuffs or fragments. if they can, then we do some interesting stuff with it.
Tbh even if it hits like a wet noodle I'm excited to build into thruster uptime and just put on my best gen 4 Armored Core impression.
That’s what I said too tbh, it looks like it would be AMAZING to run with a radiant/ignition/incandescent build or with a void destabilizing proc. I can imagine jolt actually being fun too lmao.
Exotics are supposed to be the core of builds, if they’re weak they’re not worth using
@@jamesreinsimarye exactly, idk what this guy's talking about 💀 if your exotic ISN'T the core of your build... why are you wearing an exotic?
My issue with the Hunter and Titan exotics is that it isn't immediately clear what sort of synergies or interactions they have. Without knowing what sorts of keywords they play into, it's impossible to get a feel for how they'd be incorporated into a build or how stong said build might be. If the Hunter one either blinds or jolts when the projectiles hit, then I can see a potential future for it, but if it's just Arc explosives like the old Bombardiers was, then I'm probably never going to use it.
hoping it doesnt end up like the rest of the arc hunter exotics where i never end up using them because neutral exotics just feel better to build around
@CatWithThumb the only Arc specific Hunter exotic I ever use is Liar's Handshake. The rest just don't provide enough benefit for the restrictions they come with.