dont apologise for long videos. I was happy to find one so long. you really helped me to decide to get this model because of well explained details and cutting examples.
Thanks very much for this. I looked at quite a few reviews and was surprised that some well known brands had a surprising number of pretty negative reviews at the price I was looking to pay, up to about 3-400 quid. Then I came across Hikoki (Im a beginner to woodworking btw I've just built one strongish / straightish set of shelves in my shed (you can tell im being positive can't you, i could have said weakish / wavy like the sea)), which I dismissed until I found Hikoki related to Hitachi. Then i discovered this great video of yours Dave, and thanks to you I too have a lovely looking green mitre saw in my shed, first power tool i've bought new for decades! Now I'm sitting down quietly to look at your video again to see how the hell to start using it as the manual shows me there are so many parts to the saw and I have so little idea of what it all means. Best wishes and take it easy. Marc
Glad the video was of use to you. Doesnt matter how good you are its having a go that counts. I'm still learning mate. Thanks for the kind words appreciate that
Thank you for this review! I am actually waiting for it to finish , and i am calling to order exactly the same saw!!! Also admire how you combo the video for arranging you workshop too, as exactly my situation now with similar space! Cool job , be Blessed bro!
Thanks for a thoughough realistic vid on the saw, showed all I needed at a good pace - the manual that came with it really wasn't that descriptive on anything except on how to cut oneself.
hey man, thank you! thank you for measure how much space we need for this saw. I didn't see this in just ANY review before, but sometimes its really important for poeple to know that "size". Even on official page sometimes they don't show us this, so reaaaaaly thank you!
Yeah thats the plan. My workshop or should I Say small shed will never be anywhere near as great as your workshop. Mines been done on a very tight budget. Yours is simply out of this world.
A SMALL SHOP GREAT TO.MY FIRST SHOP WAS A 8FT BY 16 TRAILER THAT TOOK FROM JOB TO JOB.AND A SMALL SHOP EASY KEEP UP.TO WORK IN.AND TO KEEP CLEAN.ONE OF MY EMPLOYES.I HAVE TO PAY.ITS HIS FULL TIME JOB .TO TAKE CARE OF THE SHOP .THE CLEANING.CHANGE FILTERS.SHINE METAL TOPS.CHANGE LIGHTS.AND SO ON.HIS NAME IS MR BERTO YOU CAN SEE HIM IN MY SAWSTOP HOT DOG SLED VIDEO.AS LONG AS YOU ENJOY YOUR SHOP THATS ALL THAT MATTERS,FROM DOUG IN HOUSTON
Just discovering your channel. Bought the Hikoki for the same space reason. Do you have a video where you show your new workshop? I'm thinking of building a bench around the table saw like you did, but maybe have some sort of panel that would slide on top of the saw for when I'm not using it.
Nice new toy mate, I think that's a great price as well. I don't think you really know how the workshop is going to run until you have tried it for a while and now you know what should work best for you. 😊
Good afternoon. Tell me, how do you like this saw? I want one, how does it hold corners? Backlash? Structural strength? Is there enough power for hardwoods?
For the price I think it's a nice little saw. I bought it mainly for the fixed rails. Depends what you want it for, if for trade use I would say spend more money but for occasional use for a cheap saw I like it. I've mainly cut soft wood but the times I've cut hardwoods it's managed alright
Thx for the video. It helped me decide to buy one. The Metabo KGS 216M would be a logical choice, but I have limited room and this ons is a little bit smaller. I like the way it can be put against a wall. It will arrive tomorrow.
Thanks a lot for this video. I'm about to buy one of these and I'm comparing it with a Makita mitre saw. Makita in general seems to be the brand to beat. It's double the price of an Hikoki however and doesn't seem to offer a whole lot more. A bit more depth/drop of the blade and some RPM differences is what I can find. I ultimately want to use the Hikoki professionally, so for a lot of mileage. What do you think?
If you're thinking of using In the trade I would go for the makita. This is a great saw for the money but I only use for diy use. If you're planning on using daily I would definitely go for the makita. I havnt used a makita mitre saw but I would think they are more reliable
Hi thanks for the video. I must commend you for the one piece of detail I could not find anywhere and thanks to your review I am well and truly educated at this section of the video 12:59 Dof my cap to you sir. I think Hokoki should be sending you a free saw for your in depth review. 👍👏👍👏👍
Hello Grumpy! I have the same saw (for about 2 months now) and quite like it thus far. My metal fence appeared a bit bend from factory, but I managed to straighten it by applying manual force / pulling the curved / center part of the fence, while having the inner screws loose and outer ones tight, then tighten the inners. In my opinion it could use a bit calibration from factory, any I have done that too. Only the laser I have found the worst part of this saw. The calibration by grubs is a pain. Also because of the laser housing limits I have found that - although the line may be calibrated straight in de X axis - it is impossible to get it straight and consistent in the Y (laser line projects at an angle). Meaning for each different thickness of wood/project, the laser has a different distance relative to the sawblade. Crap design, I now only use it to find pencil marked angles, than finetune it to the actual cutline of the blade. How is your experience with this? Cheers!
@@ScubyFlying to be honest I'm not a fan of lasers so have never used it. For the money it's a nice little saw the main reason I purchased it was for the fixed rails
I found a really cheap ledstrip headlight 3.99eu striped the electronics from the rubber and slided that inside the housing around the saw blade. This creates like a diy shadow line! Really it casts such a great shadow of the blade and adds a working light as well. That said admittedly I only checked for function and haven't fixed everything yet of this mod ,which requires taking apart the saw. Ideally i want to glue the strip in so the spinning blade could not catch on it and rip the whole thing apart and also want to connect it to the Internal power of the Laser..so when you swith on the laser it also powers the led strip. Sorry for perhaps a complicated reaction. But i think creating a diy shadow line solution makes this a gamechanger and superior to any laserline. It surprised e even with how well tuat shadow was cast on the material.
Hello, and thank you for the great review. I would like to ask, have you had the need to change the brushes so far? How durable are they, and respectively the motor?
Thanks so much for the overview. I am looking at this saw now, at 250 EUR, I think it's a nice fit for me, budget and features wise. After using it, do you find it's a good value?
The main reason I purchased this saw was for the fixed rails meaning it takes up less space. Obviously I knew it wasn't gonna be as great as the more highend saws that cost much more. But for my use which isn't trade use I find it to be perfectly capable & it's cheap. All depends what you're going to be doing with it. If it's for the occasional diy use it's alright but for trade use I would probably spend a bit more.
Hi mate, just bought this saw and read several reviews stating that the rails don’t seem smooth, seeing this video is 3 years old how have you found the rails?
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 thanks for the reply mate. Looking forward to getting it it’s my first mitre saw and glad I found you’re video. It’s literally the only in depth review I’ve found 👍🏽
Great review - as you probably have had enough time to use the saw how would you rate the dust extraction. I have a evolution which is a good little saw but dust extraction is non existent even when attached to a extractor. So looking for a upgrade.
To be honest I haven't tried it with a vac hooked up. I have the dust draw underneath. I've just got the evolution 18v vac which I will be using with my mitre saw. May wanna check my latest video of the new evolution 18v r185sms. Although I haven't tried that with dust extraction yet either.
Great review! I always freak out when someone mentions my name in a video 😂 if the blade in it is anything like mine, I was so happy with the cut quality too... I hate it when companies put a trashy stock blade in - my new Milwaukee table saw blade is pretty poor! 👍
Thanks keith. I was quite impressed with the cut to be honest. Was a bit worried the saw only had an 1100w motor, but its honestly better than my old mitre saw & thats got more power
HI, thanks for the info. I also have the same problem of space behind my workbench (but I have windows and not a wall) and I have been trying to find front-to-back dimensions of various options for a while but it's so hard to get them. Your video has also answered my question of whether it's ok to operate with that front arm sticking out past the edge of the workbench, judging by your setup it is.
Thanks for the video, Ive been using a 110v 10" hitachi for years on site (no rails) its a great machine, im thinking of buying this so that I don't need to lug around my transformer on domestic jobs, can you tell me if it will cut 90mm x 18mm stood up? I cut a lot of skirting that size so its a must for left and right mitres
Obviously it's not a makita/dewalt/festool but for the price it's not a bad saw. Others have commented saying they've had issues but mine is fine. The main reason I chose this was for the fixed rails. If you're just wanting a cheap saw to do odd jobs than this is ok. If you're looking to build fine furniture than it's probably best to spend more money
Thanks for a very good and useful info video. Bought this version a couple of weeks ago for 1 995 SEK (£ 162 / € 190), have not used it yet - not even unpacked it! Am a little hesitant about the sliding function / movement when I tested (without the motor running) the demo in the hardware store, it felt like there was gravel in the guiding rails. But for the low price I just had to buy, in addition I got a 5 year warranty. Have instead looked at a Metabo KGS 216 M at a slightly higher price. Am I worrying unnecessarily? and instead unpack and start using the Hikoki ?
I've been using mine for a while now. When I bought mine for £120 I knew it wasn't gonna be a high end saw like festool, dewalt or makita. Mine still slides OK. I find with a lot of sliding mitre saws that dust ingress can sometimes make the rails sound a little noisy. Either way with a 5yr warranty what have you got to lose. Try it & find out. Still using mine & for what I do it's been fine
How’s the saw after some use I have a dewalt that won’t stay calibrated and thinking of getting this saw just wondering if it’s accurate I do site carpentry first and second fix would you recommend it ??
I wouldn’t recommend this saw, it was out of square out the box and I couldn’t seem to square it up, it also doesn’t bevel past 45° so no good for skirting if u have a mitre at 46 or 47° cuts, I think the guard is too thick also so u really have to look around it to see your pencil marks
George Goode I’ve already bought the saw had it a while I got it cheap tho I agree with you I have see people put a thin magnet on the adjustment bolt and setting that to 45 degree then when you take the magnet off you can bevel it past 45 just a thought mine was square out the box only other complaint from me is how cheap and flimsy the lock in clip is for the angles ahha
Hello mate would you recommend this mitre saw ? We re looking for something lighter for small site jobs than our 36 volt makita with is a beast but weighs a ton.
I love the saw & its perfect for what I do. I don't use mine all day everyday so can't comment on reliability if you're wanting to use it everyday & throw it in & out of the van.. Obviously its not a high end saw as it's fairly cheap & the small blade means it has limitations. All I can say is I love it & so far I've not had any problems with it.
Top review! I've got a slightly bigger workshop than yours by the looks of it. Nevertheless, I've been looking at the possibility of replacing my mitre saw for something a little bit more compact. The one I have at the mo' is the the older style Hitachi 216mm sliding mitre. It is an excellent saw that I picked up about 5 years ago, second hand. I've since replaced the blade with a Freud (Bosch) blade and it leaves crisp, clean cuts on everything from oak to sterling board. I, too, looked at the cordless versions from HIkoki, Makita et al, but decided I wasn't going to be using it anywhere but in the workshop, so couldn't really justify the eye-watering price tags. Anyway, I spotted this bad boy online and thought I'd look for a second opinion. Your review answers all the questions I had clearly, and without any fluff. Your major negative on the tool - the rather bizarre laser set up - would not be a deal breaker for me, as I've never put much faith in them anyway. At less than £200 with a decent stock blade, I can't really see much to grumble about. Thanks for sharing!
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Well, a month later, and the saw is finally back in stock at Howie Tools. At only 159 pounds sterling including next day delivery, I can safely say that I'm excited about my new toy. I have, btw, seen the Fein M class in action onsite, and can report that it is an excellent piece of kit! Hope you have managed to get a hold of a 110v trannie and are enjoying the dust free environment!
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Hey, they are not at all expensive! You should be able to pick up a 3.3 for next to nothing second hand on Gumtree or Marketplace. Even new, they are a lot cheaper than the excellent Fein vac! As for the Hikoki, it's still around the £200 mark most places, but for some reason Howie are much cheaper than the rest with free shipping. I'll have to adapt my mitre 'station' - just a table made from loft flooring - to fit the new puppy, but that will be fun!
I bought this saw a few months ago, and really disappointed with it (WAS a big Hikoki fan) fence was bowed inward so only able to set a good cut on one side of the blade, the rotating foot was not flush with the supports either side of the blade so could not get a perfect 90’ cut if I used the full width of the table, across the full length of cut there would be up to a 3mm difference from front to back of cut. The quick blade break stopped working after about 2 weeks. Sent it back early March and still not received it back, only excuses.... won’t buy Hikoki again!!!
Hi, nice vid. If you still have the saw could you tell me the dimension over the widest part of the bed, with and without the x2 extension pieces installed (that is if they are removable).
Im no expert but even with the supplied blade it cuts very well in my opinion. The rails slide silky smooth & the low 1100w motor seems to perform better than i expected. I was worried about the small motor but after using it its way better than my old saw that had more power 1300w. Remember its not a top end saw but im happy with it for £189. Thanks for watching
I have this exact saw and it was sent back in to hikoki to look at as it was not accurate at all. I found that when I got the blade true to the fence. This was then thrown out when using the sliding mitre. They sent this back to me saying that it's fine. When I hold a square to the fence it's off and I cannot get it cutting true. Have you checked yours is square one using the slider
Perfect timing, Grumps. I've been looking at this saw, but like yourself, have struggled to find any reviews on it, so thank you. So the handle you attached to the front doesn't do anything? To lock in your chosen mitre angle, you push that little lever on the right hand side down to the work bench, which looks quite difficult to unlock. Is there any slop once your angle is locked in? Is the 'rod' that locks into the preset mitre slots made of metal? I couldn't see very well but it looked like you were pulling the blade guard release lever to fire the saw up. Does it have an odd start up procedure like its odd lock down lever?🤔
The rod is made of tough plastic. When the locking lever on the right is down it locks the saw at whatever angle youve set it at & there is no slack. The knob on the front doesnt twist. The lever on the right locks the saw to whatever angle youve set. If you have the saw located on a bench with the front part hanging over the edge the lever is easy to operate. If the whole saw is on the bench the front of the lever sits flat on the bench. The first time i tried to unlock it it was fiddly but all you do is grab it further up as there is enough room to get fingers under. ( hope you understand all that) The trigger for the saw is inside the handle & the unlocking lever is on the front which allows the saw to be lowered. You squeeze trigger & operate unlocking lever to lower saw. Hope that is some help to you
Nicely done grumpy 😁. Nice in depth review. Looks like a great addition to the shop 😁. I feel your pain about having a small workshop. I went for the cupboard option and have finally got used to it (but it makes life easier when you clean up after a job). The freebie shop vac looks like a bargain. Just one question.. is the power takeoff also 110V I.e. will you need to change all your other tools 🤔🤔. Just subbed (don't know why I didn't before ??). Stay safe mate 😁👍
Thanks man. I was given an adaptor lead which plugs into the power take off socket with a normal plug socket on the end. If that doesnt work it just means i cant use power takeoff. Just switch it on & off when needed.
Hi, thanks for the video. I'm thinking about getting this one or the dewalt 774. this one has trench cut stop, but from the spec it seems that it cannot cut a 2 by x in 45 degree bevel (less than 42 mm depth)
I got one a while ago and gave skirting and architrave a go and it wasn't that great. The architrave mitre cuts are bad. Same with skirting when it comes to external corners. It's fine with cross cutting rough sawn timbers. I'm going to give it a thorough look to see if I can tighting things up because it's also Shakey when cutting resulting in a stepped cuts in pretty any cut thick enough. Should've just got a ten inch Bosch or DeWalt mitre saw.
That's strange I haven't had any problems with mine. I didn't expect dewalt/festool quality considering the cheap price but mines been great. Maybe you can sort it out
I have the evolution the 210 version but I can truly say its a great saw but the fact it needs loads of space for the sliding rails so good choice not getting the evolution models
Great info & review. I’m about to order one of these saws but I’d like to know the overall height of the saw in the closed position. This is crucial for me for storage when not in use. If anyone can give me this dimension I’d be most grateful Thanks keith
I've recently got this saw, specifically because of the space saving aspect. For the money, it's great... At work I use festool/dewalt and bosch mitre saws and yes, the build quality is better, but once its calibrated this hikoki cuts and operates nicely. Perfect for a small workshop or light mobile job saw. I use mine for mostly 2nd fix with a fine blade in. Only complaint is the laser gets blocked out by the rubber dust boot when you lower the blade? Anyone else found a solution for that??
I love it. I don't use it everyday or in a professional manner but for me it's perfect. If your wanting something for fine furniture making it's probably not up there with the likes of dewalt or festool but that's why its a fraction of the price. For my use it's great & cheap too.
Thanks for a good review, I got one but it has a metallic burned smell and some sparks coming out of engine area (even when no load on blade). Does anyone know if this is normal since its a new machine?
@@NoisyBadAss yes but normally only when the brushes are worn out. Is it normal with sparks/smell when they are new as well? I've double checked that they are new and they are.
Can anyone tell me the width, without the side extensions, so just the fixed bed. And the depth from wall if tucked into the 45 degree position. I have a dropped down space in my bench 580mm wide which is 70mm below bench height where my old saw lived. Like the look of this one, are you still happy with it. I hate my Dewalt DWS777
Width of table only 465mm Depth at 45° 540mm approx Depth at 0/90° 750mm approx Height of table 78mm approx Yes im happy with the saw. Im not a proffessional user but after setting up it cuts well even with stock blade.
Grumpy's Workshop thanks ever so. I have a 560 deep recess, so this would slot in nicely. Thanks for taking the trouble to measure. Off to FFX again. 😀
Hi @Phil Stevens I have a very small workshop, therefore looking for a compact sliding miter saw. I was looking to DeWalt DWS777 or this Hikoki. I'm wondering when I read your comment. Why are you unhappy with DWS777??
Thanks for this lad, ive been eyeing this saw for a couple weeks but theres no where close-by to me that I can actually go to see one and put my hands on it. Wonderin about the crosscut capacity........ the specs list is as 54X305 (without anchor plate) and 65X280 (with anchor plate) im flummoxed as to what this "anchor plate" is and how it changes the capacity.........if you could teach me somethin about that id REALLY appreciate it lad :)
@Grumpy's Workshop many thanks for this very detailed review! Therefore, the real cutting length is 305 mm, isn't it? Many other 216 saws have got a lot of power more than this Hikoki (only 1100W), did you face any problem during cutting or it is smooth and easy? Thanks a lot in advance for your answer! Emanuele
Many thanks @Grumpy's Workshop for your prompt answer! About cutting length should be 305 mm, isn't it? How lonh do you have this machine in your workshop, any problem? Is it still accurate? I'm sorry for bothering you with many questions, but I'd like to buy it and you can understand 😉
Would of liked to have seen you use more of the saw, 45 degree cuts etc and use of the mitre depth stop function , and you said the word “basically” about 100 times in 30 mins
Thanks for watching & for giving feedback. Your right it would have been better to show more cuts. The reason I didnt was because the saw hadnt been set up properly & it wouldnt have been a fair review, plus the video was already quite long. I will do a short update video when I get chance & make some cuts just to show what it can do. Wow saying basically 100 times i was trying hard not to say errr😂😂😂😂😂 damn it!!!
UPDATE: I contacted (well was forced to) Hikoki - What absolute amazing Customer Service. I told them the problem (around mid day) and part number and the next morning i had the part! Unbelievable CS! KIKOKI👍👍👍
BTW the online retailer was Woodford Tools. What an absolutely outrageous and pitiful circus. Charged for next day delivery and sent a few days later. I told them about this problem and they told me to email them. Both times they just totally ignored me! What a nightmare bunch of thieves
Great, concise video, explaining all necessary details and good cutting demos. Are the saw sliding arms and the depth stop stable enough to allow accurate mortise trench work ? This version of the Hikoki ruclips.net/video/tmxzdZwG9ck/видео.html has the two sliding arms connected at the end for greater stability. Please comment, as i need a sliding saw to cut 2inch deep flat mortise cross joints in 4x4 inch. Also, can this saw cut 4x4 inch timber into half by performing two cuts ?.... just rotate the 4x4 timber upside down and complete the cut ? thank you. I think smaller saws have a better inherent dimensional stability due to lower weight resting on the two arms, agree they are more accurate than the bigger saws ? You wont beat Hikoki 3607DRA but it costs £1385. Which kohki do you think is right for me....3m metre 4x4 timbers, large workshop, producing garden furniture.
Thanks for watching. I think the sliding arms are very secure & the depth stop works well. The depth of cut is 65mm so it will cut a 4x4 in two cuts. I only use it for diy use but im well happy with it. It wasnt perfect out the box but after setting it up it cuts perfect. Only you can decide what saw is right for you. The 10inch hikoki multi volt is a great saw so ive been told & it runs on battery power or electric with an adaptor. It all depends what you want it for, how much space you have & the most important factor how much you want to spend.
I just recieved mine and there is a looot of play in the saw. Moving the handle from left to right moves the blade almost a full cm. Anyone else with the same problem? The dealer asked me to send it back for review, im afraid the problem occurs with this model generally and i wont be able to get my money back. Anyone who can tell me its not supposed to be like this?
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 thanks for your reply! I mean the handle that holds the button to activate the saw, Which you push down to drop the sawblade. When i grab this and move it left to right with very little force it flexes, and the blade aswell.
Omg I’ve just sent one if these back What has happened to hitachi , this is cheapo Chinese junk , I only spun the motor up once , it was so harsh and noisy with so much play in the bearings the blade began shaking and oscillating . It was only £160 so I guess you get what pay for , shame because it’s such a neat package .
My piece is absolute garbage. Blade axle wobbles, blade cover doesn't lock, never cuts straight, etc. This looks suspiciously similar to Erbauer ERB719. Metabo is cheaper and 10x better
Sorry to hear that. Mines been accurate enough for what I do. It's never gonna be as good as higher end saws. £120 is cheap for a mitre saw. Just done a review on the 18v evolution r185sms & it's a great bit of kit. It has Shadow line technology, Soft start & a great blade brake.
This goes as well for the Makita ls0816f than.. great saw for the 250euro price.. however Makita making a lot better more expensive saws as well.. picked up this hikoki today.. mainly because I like what it brought in features in this price range in this form factor. Not much out there and available to me
If anyone is looking to buy this from Woodford tools (more like wood-fools) please don't. Save yourself the agro - Its a Nightmare Circus - bunch of clowns - and not the funny ones. More like those from the 80's horror movies
dont apologise for long videos. I was happy to find one so long. you really helped me to decide to get this model because of well explained details and cutting examples.
Thanks very much for this. I looked at quite a few reviews and was surprised that some well known brands had a surprising number of pretty negative reviews at the price I was looking to pay, up to about 3-400 quid. Then I came across Hikoki (Im a beginner to woodworking btw I've just built one strongish / straightish set of shelves in my shed (you can tell im being positive can't you, i could have said weakish / wavy like the sea)), which I dismissed until I found Hikoki related to Hitachi. Then i discovered this great video of yours Dave, and thanks to you I too have a lovely looking green mitre saw in my shed, first power tool i've bought new for decades! Now I'm sitting down quietly to look at your video again to see how the hell to start using it as the manual shows me there are so many parts to the saw and I have so little idea of what it all means. Best wishes and take it easy. Marc
Glad the video was of use to you. Doesnt matter how good you are its having a go that counts. I'm still learning mate. Thanks for the kind words appreciate that
Really informative review, just what I needed to seal the deal. Thanks.
Thank you from Norway. I got this new Hikoki from the shop today. This video helped me a lot.
No worries & thanks for watching
Really informative review - great idea to note that it's the only one out there and go all-in on the details.
Thank you! Just bought this Tool here in Norway and was greatly helped by your video
Glad it helped, thanks for watching
Thank you for this review! I am actually waiting for it to finish , and i am calling to order exactly the same saw!!!
Also admire how you combo the video for arranging you workshop too, as exactly my situation now with similar space!
Cool job , be Blessed bro!
Thanks mate appreciate that
Thanks for a thoughough realistic vid on the saw, showed all I needed at a good pace - the manual that came with it really wasn't that descriptive on anything except on how to cut oneself.
Thanks a really thorough review , answered all my questions. think ill order one , they are so cheap it’s hard to believe its so good
Relevant and insightful information, especially for me, who is going to buy his first mitre saw. Compliments from the Netherlands! Siardus
Thanks
hey man, thank you! thank you for measure how much space we need for this saw. I didn't see this in just ANY review before, but sometimes its really important for poeple to know that "size". Even on official page sometimes they don't show us this, so reaaaaaly thank you!
Glad to help, thanks for watching
GREAT SHOP LAY OUT .I SEE YOUR A MAN WHO LIKES THINGS ORGANIZED ALSO.FROM DOUG IN HOUSTON
Yeah thats the plan. My workshop or should I Say small shed will never be anywhere near as great as your workshop. Mines been done on a very tight budget. Yours is simply out of this world.
A SMALL SHOP GREAT TO.MY FIRST SHOP WAS A 8FT BY 16 TRAILER THAT TOOK FROM JOB TO JOB.AND A SMALL SHOP EASY KEEP UP.TO WORK IN.AND TO KEEP CLEAN.ONE OF MY EMPLOYES.I HAVE TO PAY.ITS HIS FULL TIME JOB .TO TAKE CARE OF THE SHOP .THE CLEANING.CHANGE FILTERS.SHINE METAL TOPS.CHANGE LIGHTS.AND SO ON.HIS NAME IS MR BERTO YOU CAN SEE HIM IN MY SAWSTOP HOT DOG SLED VIDEO.AS LONG AS YOU ENJOY YOUR SHOP THATS ALL THAT MATTERS,FROM DOUG IN HOUSTON
I wasn't able to figure out how to adjust the laser as both that and the fence was out of square on mine, thank you!!
Just discovering your channel. Bought the Hikoki for the same space reason.
Do you have a video where you show your new workshop?
I'm thinking of building a bench around the table saw like you did, but maybe have some sort of panel that would slide on top of the saw for when I'm not using it.
Really liked thus video. I bought this saw thursday. Very good video
Good in depth review i'm sure this will help lots of people looking at mitre saws keep up the good work.
Thx Grumpy for the very nice and easy explaining video ;)
Thanks mate
Nice new toy mate, I think that's a great price as well. I don't think you really know how the workshop is going to run until you have tried it for a while and now you know what should work best for you. 😊
Good afternoon. Tell me, how do you like this saw? I want one, how does it hold corners? Backlash? Structural strength? Is there enough power for hardwoods?
For the price I think it's a nice little saw. I bought it mainly for the fixed rails. Depends what you want it for, if for trade use I would say spend more money but for occasional use for a cheap saw I like it. I've mainly cut soft wood but the times I've cut hardwoods it's managed alright
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Щиро дякую, вітання з Незламної України!
Thx for the video. It helped me decide to buy one. The Metabo KGS 216M would be a logical choice, but I have limited room and this ons is a little bit smaller. I like the way it can be put against a wall. It will arrive tomorrow.
Thanks a lot for this video. I'm about to buy one of these and I'm comparing it with a Makita mitre saw. Makita in general seems to be the brand to beat. It's double the price of an Hikoki however and doesn't seem to offer a whole lot more. A bit more depth/drop of the blade and some RPM differences is what I can find. I ultimately want to use the Hikoki professionally, so for a lot of mileage. What do you think?
If you're thinking of using In the trade I would go for the makita. This is a great saw for the money but I only use for diy use. If you're planning on using daily I would definitely go for the makita.
I havnt used a makita mitre saw but I would think they are more reliable
Like the new mitre saw especially the extending wings and stops. Great review take care David 👍
Hi when you pull the saw out to maximum cross cut is their any play in the linear bearings or the pin that holds the moter head to the housing thanks
Congrats on the new toy grumps. Looks decent. The plans you have for the workshop sounds good looking forward to the remodel videos .
Thanks for the detailed review as I am considering buying this saw!
No worries thanks for watching
Hi thanks for the video.
I must commend you for the one piece of detail I could not find anywhere and thanks to your review I am well and truly educated at this section of the video 12:59
Dof my cap to you sir. I think Hokoki should be sending you a free saw for your in depth review.
👍👏👍👏👍
Hello Grumpy! I have the same saw (for about 2 months now) and quite like it thus far. My metal fence appeared a bit bend from factory, but I managed to straighten it by applying manual force / pulling the curved / center part of the fence, while having the inner screws loose and outer ones tight, then tighten the inners. In my opinion it could use a bit calibration from factory, any I have done that too. Only the laser I have found the worst part of this saw. The calibration by grubs is a pain. Also because of the laser housing limits I have found that - although the line may be calibrated straight in de X axis - it is impossible to get it straight and consistent in the Y (laser line projects at an angle). Meaning for each different thickness of wood/project, the laser has a different distance relative to the sawblade. Crap design, I now only use it to find pencil marked angles, than finetune it to the actual cutline of the blade. How is your experience with this? Cheers!
@@ScubyFlying to be honest I'm not a fan of lasers so have never used it. For the money it's a nice little saw the main reason I purchased it was for the fixed rails
I found a really cheap ledstrip headlight 3.99eu striped the electronics from the rubber and slided that inside the housing around the saw blade. This creates like a diy shadow line! Really it casts such a great shadow of the blade and adds a working light as well. That said admittedly I only checked for function and haven't fixed everything yet of this mod ,which requires taking apart the saw. Ideally i want to glue the strip in so the spinning blade could not catch on it and rip the whole thing apart and also want to connect it to the Internal power of the Laser..so when you swith on the laser it also powers the led strip. Sorry for perhaps a complicated reaction. But i think creating a diy shadow line solution makes this a gamechanger and superior to any laserline. It surprised e even with how well tuat shadow was cast on the material.
NIce Saw Grumps, as a Hikoki user i do like the feel of them.
Hello, and thank you for the great review. I would like to ask, have you had the need to change the brushes so far? How durable are they, and respectively the motor?
Thanks. I've not had to change brushes & the saw is still working fine
Thank you! I just ordered one. Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much for the overview. I am looking at this saw now, at 250 EUR, I think it's a nice fit for me, budget and features wise. After using it, do you find it's a good value?
The main reason I purchased this saw was for the fixed rails meaning it takes up less space. Obviously I knew it wasn't gonna be as great as the more highend saws that cost much more. But for my use which isn't trade use I find it to be perfectly capable & it's cheap. All depends what you're going to be doing with it. If it's for the occasional diy use it's alright but for trade use I would probably spend a bit more.
Amazing review, much better than reading the manual
Thanks & thanks for watching
Looking good mate, you can only work around the surrounds you’ve got & this saw will serve you well 🍻👍👍👍
Thank for the information, better than the official user manual !
Thanks mate
Thank you very much for this detailed review! Do you still have the saw? *Trying to pull the plug on exactly this one
Nice addition to the shop Grumpy. Great in depth review. 🙌🏻
Hi Grumpy, does this saw have soft start and electronic brake? I think without soft start it will trip my garage 20A fuse. Thanks again, Jon
Thanks for an excellent review, I've just purchased one of these and I was having trouble setting it as the instruction are rubbish, tranks again
Hi mate, just bought this saw and read several reviews stating that the rails don’t seem smooth, seeing this video is 3 years old how have you found the rails?
Havnt used mine for a while but last time I did the rails were fine. Mine didn't make any grinding noises & slide nice & smooth
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 thanks for the reply mate. Looking forward to getting it it’s my first mitre saw and glad I found you’re video. It’s literally the only in depth review I’ve found 👍🏽
Was looking at this saw and needed to know if it had a trench function. Thanks for answering that as you said there was nothing in the specs
Great review - as you probably have had enough time to use the saw how would you rate the dust extraction. I have a evolution which is a good little saw but dust extraction is non existent even when attached to a extractor.
So looking for a upgrade.
To be honest I haven't tried it with a vac hooked up. I have the dust draw underneath. I've just got the evolution 18v vac which I will be using with my mitre saw.
May wanna check my latest video of the new evolution 18v r185sms. Although I haven't tried that with dust extraction yet either.
Nice on mate, looks a good tool that. Had to watch the video in 3 parts 😁
Yeah didnt think it was gonna be so long but wanted to do a thorough review.
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 well worth the effort
Great review! I always freak out when someone mentions my name in a video 😂 if the blade in it is anything like mine, I was so happy with the cut quality too... I hate it when companies put a trashy stock blade in - my new Milwaukee table saw blade is pretty poor! 👍
Thanks keith. I was quite impressed with the cut to be honest. Was a bit worried the saw only had an 1100w motor, but its honestly better than my old mitre saw & thats got more power
Who are you and what have you done with the Rag n' Bone Keith Brown (the one with grey hair) ??
HI, thanks for the info. I also have the same problem of space behind my workbench (but I have windows and not a wall) and I have been trying to find front-to-back dimensions of various options for a while but it's so hard to get them. Your video has also answered my question of whether it's ok to operate with that front arm sticking out past the edge of the workbench, judging by your setup it is.
Thanks, yeah aslong as the main body of the saw is on the bench its ok if the front part hangs over.
Great in depth video Grumpy can you get the mitre past the 45 degree say around 48 degree or is 45 it's limited.
Thanks.Yes it goes to 48 degree both left & right.
Great vid Grumps!! Still in love with this saw? its got my attention :)
Thanks for the video, Ive been using a 110v 10" hitachi for years on site (no rails) its a great machine, im thinking of buying this so that I don't need to lug around my transformer on domestic jobs, can you tell me if it will cut 90mm x 18mm stood up? I cut a lot of skirting that size so its a must for left and right mitres
It can only cut around 84mm
Would this saw be a good at home saw? Or is money spent better elsewhere?
Obviously it's not a makita/dewalt/festool but for the price it's not a bad saw. Others have commented saying they've had issues but mine is fine. The main reason I chose this was for the fixed rails. If you're just wanting a cheap saw to do odd jobs than this is ok. If you're looking to build fine furniture than it's probably best to spend more money
Thanks for a very good and useful info video.
Bought this version a couple of weeks ago for 1 995 SEK (£ 162 / € 190), have not used it yet - not even unpacked it!
Am a little hesitant about the sliding function / movement when I tested (without the motor running) the demo in the hardware store, it felt like there was gravel in the guiding rails. But for the low price I just had to buy, in addition I got a 5 year warranty.
Have instead looked at a Metabo KGS 216 M at a slightly higher price. Am I worrying unnecessarily? and instead unpack and start using the Hikoki ?
I've been using mine for a while now. When I bought mine for £120 I knew it wasn't gonna be a high end saw like festool, dewalt or makita. Mine still slides OK. I find with a lot of sliding mitre saws that dust ingress can sometimes make the rails sound a little noisy. Either way with a 5yr warranty what have you got to lose. Try it & find out. Still using mine & for what I do it's been fine
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Thanks for your prompt and personal response, I will now, immediately, unpack and start sawing ...
nice video thanks. do you have plans for the table and mitresaw station?
Thanks mate, I've already redesigned the mitre station. Videos online already for those including dust hood with sliding doors.
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 great stuff ill check it out. have subscribed too.
@@darencooper5786 cheers mate appreciate the sub
How’s the saw after some use I have a dewalt that won’t stay calibrated and thinking of getting this saw just wondering if it’s accurate I do site carpentry first and second fix would you recommend it ??
For me once i set it up its been great. Mines in a set position though. Not sure how it would fare being thrown in the back of a van.
Grumpy's Workshop thanks for the reply mate it seems a well built saw think I might take the risk At the price these are going for it seems a good saw
I wouldn’t recommend this saw, it was out of square out the box and I couldn’t seem to square it up, it also doesn’t bevel past 45° so no good for skirting if u have a mitre at 46 or 47° cuts, I think the guard is too thick also so u really have to look around it to see your pencil marks
George Goode I’ve already bought the saw had it a while I got it cheap tho I agree with you I have see people put a thin magnet on the adjustment bolt and setting that to 45 degree then when you take the magnet off you can bevel it past 45 just a thought mine was square out the box only other complaint from me is how cheap and flimsy the lock in clip is for the angles ahha
Hello mate would you recommend this mitre saw ? We re looking for something lighter for small site jobs than our 36 volt makita with is a beast but weighs a ton.
I love the saw & its perfect for what I do. I don't use mine all day everyday so can't comment on reliability if you're wanting to use it everyday & throw it in & out of the van.. Obviously its not a high end saw as it's fairly cheap & the small blade means it has limitations. All I can say is I love it & so far I've not had any problems with it.
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 thanks for the reply for the price it looks a great deal I’ve seen them for around the £170 mark so could be worth us trying one. 👍
Top review! I've got a slightly bigger workshop than yours by the looks of it. Nevertheless, I've been looking at the possibility of replacing my mitre saw for something a little bit more compact. The one I have at the mo' is the the older style Hitachi 216mm sliding mitre. It is an excellent saw that I picked up about 5 years ago, second hand. I've since replaced the blade with a Freud (Bosch) blade and it leaves crisp, clean cuts on everything from oak to sterling board.
I, too, looked at the cordless versions from HIkoki, Makita et al, but decided I wasn't going to be using it anywhere but in the workshop, so couldn't really justify the eye-watering price tags.
Anyway, I spotted this bad boy online and thought I'd look for a second opinion. Your review answers all the questions I had clearly, and without any fluff.
Your major negative on the tool - the rather bizarre laser set up - would not be a deal breaker for me, as I've never put much faith in them anyway.
At less than £200 with a decent stock blade, I can't really see much to grumble about.
Thanks for sharing!
Glad it was of use to you. When i was looking for a new mitre saw i couldnt find one review on this model. Im still happy with it.
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Well, a month later, and the saw is finally back in stock at Howie Tools. At only 159 pounds sterling including next day delivery, I can safely say that I'm excited about my new toy. I have, btw, seen the Fein M class in action onsite, and can report that it is an excellent piece of kit! Hope you have managed to get a hold of a 110v trannie and are enjoying the dust free environment!
@@whomadethatsaltysoup yeah i noticed the saw had been reduced in price, bargain. Still yet to purchase a 110 transformer
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Hey, they are not at all expensive! You should be able to pick up a 3.3 for next to nothing second hand on Gumtree or Marketplace. Even new, they are a lot cheaper than the excellent Fein vac!
As for the Hikoki, it's still around the £200 mark most places, but for some reason Howie are much cheaper than the rest with free shipping. I'll have to adapt my mitre 'station' - just a table made from loft flooring - to fit the new puppy, but that will be fun!
Great review my friend, i think i go for it.!!!
Thanks mate
I bought this saw a few months ago, and really disappointed with it (WAS a big Hikoki fan) fence was bowed inward so only able to set a good cut on one side of the blade, the rotating foot was not flush with the supports either side of the blade so could not get a perfect 90’ cut if I used the full width of the table, across the full length of cut there would be up to a 3mm difference from front to back of cut. The quick blade break stopped working after about 2 weeks. Sent it back early March and still not received it back, only excuses.... won’t buy Hikoki again!!!
@@workoutmyvan4909 thats a gutter. Mine is perfect
Great review mate. Literally got this saw from your review.... you think your work shop's small, I'm in a 8' by 6' shed 😂
Yeah i started with a 6x10 shed so suppose im lucky to have what i have now. Think you will always want more space though.
Me too, But the depth stop is missing on mine. What about yours?
Hi, nice vid. If you still have the saw could you tell me the dimension over the widest part of the bed, with and without the x2 extension pieces installed (that is if they are removable).
With extentions 20.75 inch without its 18.75. Thanks
Thanks for posting this, are you still happy with it after some cuts, is it powerful enough? Is sliding mechanism ok?
Im no expert but even with the supplied blade it cuts very well in my opinion. The rails slide silky smooth & the low 1100w motor seems to perform better than i expected. I was worried about the small motor but after using it its way better than my old saw that had more power 1300w.
Remember its not a top end saw but im happy with it for £189.
Thanks for watching
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Sounds good, and thanks for your reply!!
Great review my friend very enjoyable vid
I have this exact saw and it was sent back in to hikoki to look at as it was not accurate at all. I found that when I got the blade true to the fence. This was then thrown out when using the sliding mitre. They sent this back to me saying that it's fine. When I hold a square to the fence it's off and I cannot get it cutting true. Have you checked yours is square one using the slider
It did take a while to get it set up to where I was happy but now its spot on.
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 I can get the blade fine but the rails run to the right for me. Not happy at all
@@Danme1987 i would be asking for an exchange if thats the case.
Nice review. I might have missed it in the video. Can you set the cut angle to any other than the preset 15,30,45 degrees ?
You can set it at any angle
Good review.I'm bit worried for the plastic saw shielding, is it hard plastic or more of a flexible stuff?
It does flex slightly if you squeeze it but the plastic is quite thick & seems to be quite tough
Perfect timing, Grumps. I've been looking at this saw, but like yourself, have struggled to find any reviews on it, so thank you.
So the handle you attached to the front doesn't do anything? To lock in your chosen mitre angle, you push that little lever on the right hand side down to the work bench, which looks quite difficult to unlock.
Is there any slop once your angle is locked in?
Is the 'rod' that locks into the preset mitre slots made of metal?
I couldn't see very well but it looked like you were pulling the blade guard release lever to fire the saw up. Does it have an odd start up procedure like its odd lock down lever?🤔
The rod is made of tough plastic. When the locking lever on the right is down it locks the saw at whatever angle youve set it at & there is no slack. The knob on the front doesnt twist. The lever on the right locks the saw to whatever angle youve set. If you have the saw located on a bench with the front part hanging over the edge the lever is easy to operate. If the whole saw is on the bench the front of the lever sits flat on the bench. The first time i tried to unlock it it was fiddly but all you do is grab it further up as there is enough room to get fingers under. ( hope you understand all that)
The trigger for the saw is inside the handle & the unlocking lever is on the front which allows the saw to be lowered. You squeeze trigger & operate unlocking lever to lower saw. Hope that is some help to you
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Thank you kind sir. Very helpful.
Nicely done grumpy 😁. Nice in depth review. Looks like a great addition to the shop 😁. I feel your pain about having a small workshop. I went for the cupboard option and have finally got used to it (but it makes life easier when you clean up after a job). The freebie shop vac looks like a bargain. Just one question.. is the power takeoff also 110V I.e. will you need to change all your other tools 🤔🤔. Just subbed (don't know why I didn't before ??). Stay safe mate 😁👍
Thanks man. I was given an adaptor lead which plugs into the power take off socket with a normal plug socket on the end. If that doesnt work it just means i cant use power takeoff. Just switch it on & off when needed.
Hi, thanks for the video.
I'm thinking about getting this one or the dewalt 774. this one has trench cut stop, but from the spec it seems that it cannot cut a 2 by x in 45 degree bevel (less than 42 mm depth)
I think it can. Not done that but can't see why it wouldnt
I'm thinking of either getting this saw or the dewalt 773 hard one to choose between them
I was looking at the dewalt 773, 774 & this one. The one thing that put me off the dewalt saws was the fact neither have depth stop. The hikoki does
Thanks for solid information!
No worries mate. Thanks for watching
very helpful for me
Great review man!
Thanks, that helps a lot!
No worries thanks for watching
Good review, and I think you got 1 or more cats ;-)
Thanks, I have 4 cats
I got one a while ago and gave skirting and architrave a go and it wasn't that great. The architrave mitre cuts are bad. Same with skirting when it comes to external corners. It's fine with cross cutting rough sawn timbers.
I'm going to give it a thorough look to see if I can tighting things up because it's also Shakey when cutting resulting in a stepped cuts in pretty any cut thick enough.
Should've just got a ten inch Bosch or DeWalt mitre saw.
That's strange I haven't had any problems with mine. I didn't expect dewalt/festool quality considering the cheap price but mines been great. Maybe you can sort it out
What is the distance from the wall to the front holes for bolting the saw down?
About 16 inches
Does it have soft start and electric brake?
Doesn't have soft start but stops really quick
Hi does your saw have a worklight
It has a laser but no light. Not really a problem for me but if that's what you're looking for then no.
I have the evolution the 210 version but I can truly say its a great saw but the fact it needs loads of space for the sliding rails so good choice not getting the evolution models
Great info & review. I’m about to order one of these saws but I’d like to know the overall height of the saw in the closed position. This is crucial for me for storage when not in use. If anyone can give me this dimension I’d be most grateful
Thanks keith
Its about 13inch give or take in the closed position
Nice one...thanks
really liked your review 😌 can you send a link where you bought the saw?
I got mine from ffx but i think they've sold out of the 240v version. Howe tools are selling them for around £162 but they may have sold out.
Одна из лучших пил в плане качества!👍
Hi mate, this mitre saw has soft start?
Thanks
No soft start but the blade stops quick when you release the trigger
Does it do a 45 degree bevel on a 4x2 / 2x4?
With a 2x4 on its side yes
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 ok I'll be getting this any day now, thanks man
I've recently got this saw, specifically because of the space saving aspect. For the money, it's great... At work I use festool/dewalt and bosch mitre saws and yes, the build quality is better, but once its calibrated this hikoki cuts and operates nicely. Perfect for a small workshop or light mobile job saw. I use mine for mostly 2nd fix with a fine blade in.
Only complaint is the laser gets blocked out by the rubber dust boot when you lower the blade?
Anyone else found a solution for that??
I never use the laser myself.
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 after all that time spent adjusting it!
@@petelongbottom963 i suppose im just used to lining up the blade to the cut line. Worried the laser could be wrong.
Hi, I've been watching your video's and I have noticed at the background of your video. Why I see 2 flags British and American side by side
I made them as part of a collaboration with other RUclipsrs, make a flag challenge. I chose UK & USA ad that's where most of my viewers are based
still satisfied with this saw? i think of replacing my miter saw...
I love it. I don't use it everyday or in a professional manner but for me it's perfect. If your wanting something for fine furniture making it's probably not up there with the likes of dewalt or festool but that's why its a fraction of the price. For my use it's great & cheap too.
Does the saw cut 2 inch 45 bevel
Thanks for a good review, I got one but it has a metallic burned smell and some sparks coming out of engine area (even when no load on blade). Does anyone know if this is normal since its a new machine?
If you mean the black plastic motor housing then yes. Mine does it
Sparking is caused by the carbon brushes.
@@NoisyBadAss yes but normally only when the brushes are worn out. Is it normal with sparks/smell when they are new as well? I've double checked that they are new and they are.
@@sandvik4604 I think it's normal when they are new as well.
@@NoisyBadAss Thanks NBA :)
Can anyone tell me the width, without the side extensions, so just the fixed bed. And the depth from wall if tucked into the 45 degree position. I have a dropped down space in my bench 580mm wide which is 70mm below bench height where my old saw lived. Like the look of this one, are you still happy with it. I hate my Dewalt DWS777
Width of table only 465mm
Depth at 45° 540mm approx
Depth at 0/90° 750mm approx
Height of table 78mm approx
Yes im happy with the saw. Im not a proffessional user but after setting up it cuts well even with stock blade.
Grumpy's Workshop thanks ever so. I have a 560 deep recess, so this would slot in nicely. Thanks for taking the trouble to measure. Off to FFX again. 😀
Hi @Phil Stevens I have a very small workshop, therefore looking for a compact sliding miter saw. I was looking to DeWalt DWS777 or this Hikoki. I'm wondering when I read your comment. Why are you unhappy with DWS777??
Brilliant review
Thanks
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 new subscriber
@@HGarry4012 thanks appreciate that
Thanks man!
Thanks for this lad, ive been eyeing this saw for a couple weeks but theres no where close-by to me that I can actually go to see one and put my hands on it. Wonderin about the crosscut capacity........ the specs list is as 54X305 (without anchor plate) and 65X280 (with anchor plate) im flummoxed as to what this "anchor plate" is and how it changes the capacity.........if you could teach me somethin about that id REALLY appreciate it lad :)
Looking at the parts diagram I think they are talking about the depth stop.
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 Thank you brother :)
@Grumpy's Workshop many thanks for this very detailed review!
Therefore, the real cutting length is 305 mm, isn't it?
Many other 216 saws have got a lot of power more than this Hikoki (only 1100W), did you face any problem during cutting or it is smooth and easy?
Thanks a lot in advance for your answer!
Emanuele
@@emanuelecrociani8884 thanks mate, no problems with power from what i can tell. Even with the supplied blade it cuts very well.
Many thanks @Grumpy's Workshop for your prompt answer!
About cutting length should be 305 mm, isn't it?
How lonh do you have this machine in your workshop, any problem? Is it still accurate?
I'm sorry for bothering you with many questions, but I'd like to buy it and you can understand 😉
hi, your video keeps stalling and then just repeats a section of the video. Please would you reload it.
thank you, Jon
Sorry about that, just sat & watched it on my phone and it played all the way through no problem. Not sure whats going on
thank you, sorted now. Does this saw have soft start and electronic brake? Thanks again, Jon.
@@mr.arcticson4076 no soft start unfortunately but blade stops quick
Thannk you again - great review!!
Would of liked to have seen you use more of the saw, 45 degree cuts etc and use of the mitre depth stop function , and you said the word “basically” about 100 times in 30 mins
Thanks for watching & for giving feedback. Your right it would have been better to show more cuts. The reason I didnt was because the saw hadnt been set up properly & it wouldnt have been a fair review, plus the video was already quite long.
I will do a short update video when I get chance & make some cuts just to show what it can do.
Wow saying basically 100 times i was trying hard not to say errr😂😂😂😂😂 damn it!!!
Grumpy's Workshop you seem like a nice bloke mate so il change the thumbs down to a thumbs up
@@georgedixon545 ha ha thanks mate. Its ok i appreciate all feedback.
I bought this thanks to this review but my depth stop is missing! Anyone else had this problem?
That's weird, have you contacted the supplier?
UPDATE:
I contacted (well was forced to) Hikoki - What absolute amazing Customer Service. I told them the problem (around mid day) and part number and the next morning i had the part! Unbelievable CS! KIKOKI👍👍👍
BTW the online retailer was Woodford Tools. What an absolutely outrageous and pitiful circus. Charged for next day delivery and sent a few days later. I told them about this problem and they told me to email them. Both times they just totally ignored me! What a nightmare bunch of thieves
@@garvielloken3929 that's brilliant news
Great, concise video, explaining all necessary details and good cutting demos.
Are the saw sliding arms and the depth stop stable enough to allow accurate mortise trench work ? This version of the Hikoki ruclips.net/video/tmxzdZwG9ck/видео.html
has the two sliding arms connected at the end for greater stability. Please comment, as i need a sliding saw to cut 2inch deep flat mortise cross joints in 4x4 inch. Also, can this saw cut 4x4 inch timber into half by performing two cuts ?.... just rotate the 4x4 timber upside down and complete the cut ? thank you. I think smaller saws have a better inherent dimensional stability due to lower weight resting on the two arms, agree they are more accurate than the bigger saws ? You wont beat Hikoki 3607DRA but it costs £1385. Which kohki do you think is right for me....3m metre 4x4 timbers, large workshop, producing garden furniture.
Thanks for watching. I think the sliding arms are very secure & the depth stop works well. The depth of cut is 65mm so it will cut a 4x4 in two cuts.
I only use it for diy use but im well happy with it. It wasnt perfect out the box but after setting it up it cuts perfect.
Only you can decide what saw is right for you. The 10inch hikoki multi volt is a great saw so ive been told & it runs on battery power or electric with an adaptor. It all depends what you want it for, how much space you have & the most important factor how much you want to spend.
Concise?
I just recieved mine and there is a looot of play in the saw. Moving the handle from left to right moves the blade almost a full cm. Anyone else with the same problem? The dealer asked me to send it back for review, im afraid the problem occurs with this model generally and i wont be able to get my money back. Anyone who can tell me its not supposed to be like this?
Not sure what you mean by moving handle left to right. But i havnt noticed any play on mine.
@@GrumpysWorkshop4 thanks for your reply! I mean the handle that holds the button to activate the saw, Which you push down to drop the sawblade. When i grab this and move it left to right with very little force it flexes, and the blade aswell.
Oh right, haven't noticed that on mine
This saw is just a rebranded Screwfix ( erbauer ) one
I don't think it is. Its a hikoki & different to the erbauer mitre saw
It is mate it just a rebrand Screwfix saw
@@terrydeath3514 but it's totally different. This has fixed rails whereas the erbauer doesn't
Omg I’ve just sent one if these back What has happened to hitachi , this is cheapo Chinese junk , I only spun the motor up once , it was so harsh and noisy with so much play in the bearings the blade began shaking and oscillating . It was only £160 so I guess you get what pay for , shame because it’s such a neat package .
My piece is absolute garbage. Blade axle wobbles, blade cover doesn't lock, never cuts straight, etc. This looks suspiciously similar to Erbauer ERB719. Metabo is cheaper and 10x better
Sorry to hear that. Mines been accurate enough for what I do. It's never gonna be as good as higher end saws. £120 is cheap for a mitre saw. Just done a review on the 18v evolution r185sms & it's a great bit of kit. It has Shadow line technology, Soft start & a great blade brake.
Sorry to say but that is a very poor quality mitre saw considering the brand
Sorry you think that. Im very happy with it
This goes as well for the Makita ls0816f than.. great saw for the 250euro price.. however Makita making a lot better more expensive saws as well.. picked up this hikoki today.. mainly because I like what it brought in features in this price range in this form factor. Not much out there and available to me
If anyone is looking to buy this from Woodford tools (more like wood-fools) please don't. Save yourself the agro - Its a Nightmare Circus - bunch of clowns - and not the funny ones. More like those from the 80's horror movies