A brilliant and concise video on how to connect the devices. I also have struggled with making everything work. This video makes everyone understand the procedure without a shadow of a doubt.
Thanks very much Dragon Rider. I used your guide to troubleshoot the connections between my TFT on a '22 R1250GS and some older gear (iPhone 11 Pro in the BMW cradle, Sena SMH10) and it worked perfectly. Note to self: 1. Helmet to TFT, 2. iphone to TFT
I lost the will to live at about 6:22............that is absolutely no reflection on you and your video, which, up until me losing the will to live, was all perfectly explained 👍😊
This was the video I was looking for about the setup of my connectivity, mobile phone, BMW Navigator (Garmin) and shoei srl. Followed the directions and everything is running like a charm! Thanks for posting!
Connected my '18 plate R1200GS Adventure, my Sena 10R, my iPhone 13 min and BMW Nav 6 up using the instructions here. The bit I missed first time is when clicking the plus button to go into the configuration menu, I missed the second press to pair second phone. Thanks!
Fantastic video, just picked up a new R1250GSA, and had to restart/repair everything. This video made it really simple. Thank you. Lucky I have exactly the same helmet setup, so I just followed along 🙏🏼
Just an update. Thank you it works, sort of. I’m not sure jogging wheel is doing its job for volume. That being said it’s possibly because bike was already at 100% volume and phone was hooked up at low volume. Thank you so much though. Slow process but done!!.
Thank you! My SENA 50R is connected now. Held the middle button, came to config menu, selected phone number 2 and boom it showed up on the BMW S1000RR screen and connected without issue.
Really great video. Doesn't answer my questions, but gets me pointed in the right direction. I am using the connected ride cradle with my android smartphone. I am also using the Schuberth Siena SC2. My take away is that depends on what pairs with what first, and what I enable each device to do. Currently my phone is at the center of everything and the TFT bluetooth seems to interfere/override everything else. Anyway, thank you.
Thanks for this video I've just set mine up as you describe and it seems to be working perfectly. Really clear instructions and best explanation I've seen. Much appreciated.
I'll report back, but my F900xr with Nav 6 and iphone 13 and schuberth c5 with sc2 should work with this setup too. Thank you so much for showing how it's done. I tried someone else's way, less steps, and just did not work. I went back in frustration to only connected to Nav 6, just not as convenient as how you have it correctly.
Thanks a lot for your detailed and clear video. It was very easy to connect my new Sena to the TFT of a GS 1250 and everything seems to work fine. Excellent job 👍👍👍
Great video, really helpful and clear to understand. Quick question - does this effectively remove the need for the Sena App on your phone as everything is being controlled via bikes TFT? Using the Sena app would require pairing phone direct to helmet, thus screwing up the settings in the video? Do I have that correct? Many thanks 😀
Yes if you connect your phone to senna app you disconnect from tft pain I know but once you have set your senna up via app with all the setting you shouldn’t need to do it again
Music control is easy just need to be on media page of tft and use jog wheel Unfortunately you can use sena voice command which is ok but there is no tft voice command and you lose the ability to activate Siri when linked to tft in this method. If you wanted to use Siri you just connect sena to phone and leave out tft
Thanks for this video. With this set up, are you controlling the volume with the waggle wheel (Eg phone volume during a call, music volume during playback) or are you having to control volume using the sena srl?
No you can only control the volume via the wheel if you have the bmw coms system. I normally set all volume to max and control the volume via my Sena system
Great vid. Thanks for this connection guide! It’s almost there for my particular setup. My conundrum begins with, instead of the Nav 6, I’ve opted for the BMW Connected Ride Cradle and my iPhone with the BMW Motorrad Connected app for navigation. Given my setup, I’ve followed your instructions and pairings order to the best I can logic out. However, at the very last step when we go into intercom pairing between our 2 helmets, while that connection works and we can hear and talk to each other, we both lose connection with the motorcycle. In your second step, you pair the helmet to the Nav 6 via the “2nd Mobile Phone Pairing” menu setting of the helmet. Is this then where I should pair with my iPhone instead as I don’t have the Nav6? Cheers!
@@daveracer6885 with the connected ride cradle you connect to that and the tft and intercom pair between the two helmets totally different to the nav 6. I think your phone connects to the CRC and tft your helmets connect to the tft and then to talk to each other you intercom pair
You don’t connect the nav to the tft only the mobile and the helmets to each To control the tft you press the button on the left bar and the icon will change from tft to nav to allow you to control the nav hands free ie using the wheel
Great video of a fairly complicated setup Dragon Rider. My Nav unit doesn't have a "Proximity Alerts" menu option just below the "Language & Keyboard" menu or anywhere else that I can find. 12:49 on the video. All the traffic chatter is indeed annoying. Anyone know how to address this?
thanks. Wrote off a GS 1200 en route to Edinburgh on Sept 20th. combination of distraction of screen watching and tiredness so really want to get the audio set up going so as don't repeat experience - ( BMW Connected app recorded my impacting kerb at 70 mph and fortunately wearing fully body armour with a Streetguard suit and MX boots saved me - en route for a £2300 Motorrad tour of Highlands and ended up flying home next day to Gatwick - so I want to get it right !
@@DC1008 yes I was very lucky just a slightly damaged rt foot and pulled chest muscles - too many visual distractions if u r tired - am 68 and it was a long ride from Eastbourne area... looking forward to voice nav commands and eyes on the road !
Hello. very interesting video! I drive a Honda 1100 Nt with Tft screen and apple CarPlay. Was recommended to connect Sena and Tft screen as Gps. Not phone, but Gps. You connect the Tft screen as a phone and your GPS as a second phone. What is the reason why you do not pair as Gps in Sena? Thanks for reply 👍
@@DC1008 Hello. Can you then have an intercom conversation and at the same time hear GPS navigation, without the intercom conversation being interrupted?
Great video, i will be using it for sure because for now i can only use my phone to make a call through the TFT. A question: message like whats app or my speed/camera watcher ( Flitsmeister ), used to appear on my XT, where will it appear now : on theTFT or the XT?
I have connected ride navigator and paired rider and passenger intercoms (both of them are Sena). But I can't talk to passengers. Will we connect helmets as intercom pairing after connecting to the navigator?
@@byemrahozd so best way to look at it the CRN is the hub for your phone. It connects to your phone allowing music and data for navigation to be used and available in order to push that info out to the rider you connect your helmet to it so you can hear music phone and navigation inputs. If you have a passenger you connect there helmet to the CRN so they can hear music navigation inputs and also phone etc but unless you connect the two helmets together you won’t be able to talk to each other
So well done. Thank you. Can you clarify something, is the media (music) you are listening configured to come from a streaming service like Pandora? That's what I'm trying to accomplish. Thanks again!
Hi Dragon Rider! If you could be so kind, i would aks a question. Is it possible to navigate from mobile phone, listening to music from tft through mobile phone and chat with the passenger? I can connect everything. I am able to navigate and listening music, the passenger also listening the music and i dont know why but passenger also hears nav infos as well... But dont able to chat What i think is.... The tft connects to mobile phone on one channel and keeps it open continuously. Only one channel. The mobile phone mix the music and the nav infos and transmit to the tft. That is the ftf input. The tft cant separate music and nav infos, tft only get what the mobile phone send. Mixed the music and the nav infos by the phone. On one channel. The nav6 connect to phone as well. Ok. The only big deal is that the ftf disconnect the passenger helmet when phone call comes up. In this case, i cant chat with the passenger. In your video you connect the 2 helmets directly. So. The ftf get data from phone (mixed music nav infos or nav6) on one channel. Transmits the mixed data to helmets on two output channel, one-one channel dedicated to each helmet. Nice. So the tft cant organize the intercom between the two helmets. I dont really know why. The output channels are two way channels. So the tft can recive data from helmets not just transmit. Why is so hard to recive chat data from helmet and mix into the transmitted data from helmet to helmet..... Listening music, hear nav infos and chat in the same time. Would be nice,,,, How do you make it? If i connect the helmets directly to eachother, i have to switch between the helmet channels manually on the headsets. If i listening music and want to say something to the passenger, i have to switch channel to be abel to do it. So we listening music or chat. And we have to switch. Maybe only my headsets are the problem I dont know. Can your set do that? Can Sena keep open the tft channel and the intercom channel and mix them in the same time? TFT cant mix channels as I see. That is why we have to connect helmets directly to eachother. How does listening music or navigate maybe both and chat looks like in your case? Thank you
Works fine with my senna. Have you connected the passenger helmet to the nav? They shouldn’t be able to hear nav instructions Only the rider can You should hear music until your passenger speaks or you .
@@DC1008 Thank you very much! I think I can see it clearly now. I am useing phone to navigate that is why passenger hears nav infos because it is one channel. It is all about helmet headset. To be able listening music or etc and be able to chat in the same time need a dual ability headset. The headset will mix the two channels (tft-headste and headset-headset). The tft and the intercom. If you have a non dual headsets, you have to switch between the channels manually on the headset. Nobody told it. People think when you are able to connect pilot and passenger headset to the tft, it will organize the chat as well. But not. It is a shame if you ask me. The BMW took an old car infotainment system and with just a bit modification gave it to us. I am a pilot as well. The pilot headsets do everything we need. The hole thing is a pendrive size device. So 10 usd and a little software and would be perfect. Maybe interesting fun fact... if you ride solo or dont need intercom, normal ordinary cheap sport inear headsets work fine with the tft. I have tried two type. JBl and a cheap chinese one. Both works. Nav, music, phone call. And the audio quality is better then helmet headsets. I have paired both in the same time to pilot and passenger. Perfect. Of course, no intercom. So solo riders dont need expensive helmet headset to navigate listening music and make calls. Once again, thank you for your answer!
Very intuitive video mate but I have a question….. would it not be better to use the gps pairing channel on the Sena instead of the 2nd mobile phone pairing to connect to the Nav6?
Thanks for the video, it helped me set everything up, but now I can hear the music I play on my phone, but there's no sound on the helmet, am I doing something wrong? Thank you.
Thanks for sharing. My bike is 2021 XR and a NAV 6 on it, but I can’t control the NAV 6 via multicontroller. After checking your video, I found the top left of your TFT show “TFT~NAV” and mine not. How should I do to call them out?
Great video, so simple, whats the advantage of getting the second helmet to connect to the TFT, as to Pairing helmet to helmet? If the wife wants to Liston to her music rather than mine, would this be possible? Cheers.
Think of the tft as the hub you connect everything two it for it all to go through the tft. However if the passenger wants to listen to there own music then unfortunately you would have to disregard the tft rider conects phone to helmet and intercom to pillion Pillion connects to there phone and intercom to rider You could try rider to tft intercom to pillion and pillion sets there phone to there helmet That way both should be able to talk Both answer there own calls and both listen to there own music Let me know how you get on
Thanks for the video. I'm gonna give this set up and ordering a try. Had it working once but couldn't get it back after turning everything off. Do you use the BMW connected app as well?
Thanks for the video. One question, I did all of this but when I went to access the music it says “racetrack” or something like that and doesn’t light of the music section. Is this a setting I have on that is doing this? Thanks
a question: at the moment only my Sena SRL is paired with my wife's Sena SRL who rides her own motorcycle. can this remain if after watching your video I have connected everything to my BMW 1250GS
Yes you connect your srl to the tft and nav via phone pairing then connect to your wife via intercom pairing So on your helmet you can hear music take calls and get directions and you can talk to your wife etc
Many thanks for helpful information ℹ️ I have problem when I contact my helmet to the TFT and mobile, the music 🎶 sondes doesn’t come fine compari when I contact the mobile to the helmet directly with out TFT and navigation ?
Good video 👍🏻 Do you have any idea - how to set the media volume louder? I have paired everything with each other, and in the garage everything seemed to work perfectly well. I could hear the music in the helmet headphones clear and loud (with the possibility to turn the volume up and down with the Sena jog dial - as I have the 30K model). Unfortunately - when riding - it turned out, that I could hardly hear the music, or navi messages (even with the volume set to maximum). Only the phone calls were loud enough. I don’t know - what I have done incorrectly 🤷🏼♂️
I guess when you are playing your media, try to turn your dial on left handle and see if if lights up thevolume bar on your TFT. If it does, keep turning the dial up and the volume will go up too.
What about FM radio listening through the SENA? I own Avant Intercom and I noticed that I cant listen to the radio (from intercom) when I am able to use phone from TFT (not sure exactly what is connected to what). When phone is not available to TFT intercom radio works ok.
Great video, thank you! Quick question, with Nav6, what is the advantage to pairing the integrated TFT to the Sena? Nav6 can control media, but also adds Pandora/apps as well that run directly on it (I mostly listen to Pandora when riding). Why not just do the pairing from the Nav6 to the Sena and then from the phone directly to the Sena (so you can use the Sena app on the phone to setup intercoms/Sena settings/etc)? Suspect I'm missing something, just wondered what it is/was! ;)
Great video which I have had to follow a few times (after BMW do a software update it wipes everything). However after the last software update, I manage to pair the headset with the TFT ok, but then when it connects to the Sat Nav, it won’t recognise the Headset on the TFT afterwards. Any ideas?
You have to do that so that the NAV 6 can talk to you ie directions etc. Its quite a process but that's what you have to do there is no bridge that BMW have done. So mobile phone paring to TFT and 2nd mobile phone pairing to NAV 6
I just followed your method to the letter, but cannot get sound into my Sena headphones, everything shows on th eTFT as if it's working - just no sound, this is on a new 1250GSA & Nav VI. I have a second bike 1200GS with Zumo XT and it works perfectly with th Sena - rather bizarre
Hi mate! Your video is first class and I followed it all the way through, everything is working but when i look at the icons on the TFT Navigation is greyed or Ghosted out if you like. Any ideas?
Just to confirm Dragon Rider, if I follow your routine up to where I connect the pillion to the tft, but but do not connect the pillion to the tft and just pair rider to pillion?
Considering changing all my connections to those in this video. My Tech details: 2022 XR TFT | Sena 50s | iPhone 14 | BMW Nav 6. Currently have Phone connected to TFT, Phone connected to Nav 6, Sena connected to phone. Q's for any of those who have followed that video instructions: 1) when I ride my other bike, will connecting Sena to iPhone mess up when I get back on the XR? 2) can I use Siri with video recommendations? 3) can I mesh chat with my group of riding buddies with the new set up? 4) can I use the sena phone app to manage the sena?
i have problems with phonecalls when i connect it too tft. but when i disconnect it from tft and Just connect my sena to my phone the problem does not accure.
Thank you for the video, I watched it several times and paired up perfectly with Nav6, TFT and Neotec2. Rode for the first time yesterday with helmets paired, With the helmet paired I stopped getting the navigation voice instructions through the helmet and I also took a call through the helmet and TFT that disconnected the helmets comms to each other. As soon as I stopped and synched the helmets again they were fine. Do you get navigation commands through your riders helmet when connected to the pillion and does taking a phone call through the TFT and helmet disconnect your helmets? Thank you for any help you can offer.
So yes when you take a phone call the helmets will disconnect. They should reconnect however if they don’t alll you do is press the centre button on the helmet once and they reconnect no need to go into intercom pairing again. If your helmet is paired to the nav 6 you should get voice updates through the riders helmet only. Go into settings on the helmet Sena and see what’s got priority sometimes music can have priority over voice etc
My understanding is when the nav 6 wants to tell you something it should interrupt intercom and music etc but shouldn’t disconnect but I’ll have a play about and see what happens
Doesn’t work. My TFT and SLR2 will never connect. I have tried everything. Spend dozens of hours on this shit. That 500$ piece of scrap is now in the garbage can. Thanks anyway.
A brilliant and concise video on how to connect the devices. I also have struggled with making everything work. This video makes everyone understand the procedure without a shadow of a doubt.
Best video I've seen to connect my Neotec, Iphone and GSA! THANK YOU!
Thanks very much Dragon Rider. I used your guide to troubleshoot the connections between my TFT on a '22 R1250GS and some older gear (iPhone 11 Pro in the BMW cradle, Sena SMH10) and it worked perfectly. Note to self: 1. Helmet to TFT, 2. iphone to TFT
I lost the will to live at about 6:22............that is absolutely no reflection on you and your video, which, up until me losing the will to live, was all perfectly explained 👍😊
No worries mate it’s a minefield setting it all
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@@DC1008 Glad you’ve taken my comment in the way it was meant 👍 Stay safe😊
This was the video I was looking for about the setup of my connectivity, mobile phone, BMW Navigator (Garmin) and shoei srl. Followed the directions and everything is running like a charm! Thanks for posting!
As per preceding comments, absolutely brilliant job. Cannot thank you enough for time saving and frustration avoided👌
Connected my '18 plate R1200GS Adventure, my Sena 10R, my iPhone 13 min and BMW Nav 6 up using the instructions here. The bit I missed first time is when clicking the plus button to go into the configuration menu, I missed the second press to pair second phone. Thanks!
Fantastic video, just picked up a new R1250GSA, and had to restart/repair everything. This video made it really simple. Thank you.
Lucky I have exactly the same helmet setup, so I just followed along 🙏🏼
Just an update. Thank you it works, sort of. I’m not sure jogging wheel is doing its job for volume. That being said it’s possibly because bike was already at 100% volume and phone was hooked up at low volume. Thank you so much though. Slow process but done!!.
Absolute money man. Thanks. I gave up connecting until I saw this. Just did phone to Sena.. SO nice...
Thank you! My SENA 50R is connected now.
Held the middle button, came to config menu, selected phone number 2 and boom it showed up on the BMW S1000RR screen and connected without issue.
Top Video, well explained. when other people have tried to explain this to me, they may as well have been speaking Japanese or double Dutch lol
Very informative . Thanks for taking the time on learning pairing with the Nav. 6
Great video! Helped me with my 2023 GS and Neotec. Thank you !
Really great video. Doesn't answer my questions, but gets me pointed in the right direction. I am using the connected ride cradle with my android smartphone. I am also using the Schuberth Siena SC2. My take away is that depends on what pairs with what first, and what I enable each device to do. Currently my phone is at the center of everything and the TFT bluetooth seems to interfere/override everything else. Anyway, thank you.
Thank you. Connected my Sena, Navigator V, and iPhone with my new S1000XR.
Thanks for this video I've just set mine up as you describe and it seems to be working perfectly. Really clear instructions and best explanation I've seen. Much appreciated.
Great! Thank you. Got so frustrated linking all the devices. Brilliant video!
great video. I was confused until I found this so thanks so much.
Great video...walked me right through the setup.
I'll report back, but my F900xr with Nav 6 and iphone 13 and schuberth c5 with sc2 should work with this setup too. Thank you so much for showing how it's done. I tried someone else's way, less steps, and just did not work. I went back in frustration to only connected to Nav 6, just not as convenient as how you have it correctly.
Good presentation BMW just shot to the top of the list because of the TFT, hope the other features are as good!
Thanks a lot for your detailed and clear video. It was very easy to connect my new Sena to the TFT of a GS 1250 and everything seems to work fine. Excellent job 👍👍👍
Great video, saved me loads of time! Have to arrange going for a ride 1 day. Not too far from you as I'm in pontypridd 👍
Yeah definitely mate
Great video, really helpful and clear to understand. Quick question - does this effectively remove the need for the Sena App on your phone as everything is being controlled via bikes TFT? Using the Sena app would require pairing phone direct to helmet, thus screwing up the settings in the video? Do I have that correct? Many thanks 😀
Yes if you connect your phone to senna app you disconnect from tft pain I know but once you have set your senna up via app with all the setting you shouldn’t need to do it again
What a brilliant informative video great work.
Very helpful video! Thanks mate!
So how easy is music control using the BMW controls? And is there no button on the handlebars that can trigger assistant voice commands?
Music control is easy just need to be on media page of tft and use jog wheel
Unfortunately you can use sena voice command which is ok but there is no tft voice command and you lose the ability to activate Siri when linked to tft in this method.
If you wanted to use Siri you just connect sena to phone and leave out tft
Just what I was looking for; thanks so much!
Well done. Thanks for a great job making this clear.
Thanks for this video. With this set up, are you controlling the volume with the waggle wheel (Eg phone volume during a call, music volume during playback) or are you having to control volume using the sena srl?
No you can only control the volume via the wheel if you have the bmw coms system. I normally set all volume to max and control the volume via my Sena system
Great vid. Thanks for this connection guide! It’s almost there for my particular setup. My conundrum begins with, instead of the Nav 6, I’ve opted for the BMW Connected Ride Cradle and my iPhone with the BMW Motorrad Connected app for navigation. Given my setup, I’ve followed your instructions and pairings order to the best I can logic out. However, at the very last step when we go into intercom pairing between our 2 helmets, while that connection works and we can hear and talk to each other, we both lose connection with the motorcycle.
In your second step, you pair the helmet to the Nav 6 via the “2nd Mobile Phone Pairing” menu setting of the helmet. Is this then where I should pair with my iPhone instead as I don’t have the Nav6?
Cheers!
@@daveracer6885 with the connected ride cradle you connect to that and the tft and intercom pair between the two helmets totally different to the nav 6.
I think your phone connects to the CRC and tft your helmets connect to the tft and then to talk to each other you intercom pair
Thank you! Very informative.
Thank you, like everyone else here, exactly what i was looking for and everything works like i would like it.
Got a gsa1250 from 2022.
Awesome mate glad I could help
una consulta, no puedes manejar los comandos de voz del intercomunicador estando conectado a la tft ?
Thanks for this video! Ended a lot of frustration. Much appreciated!
With your setup as described, does your scroll wheel adjust the media and telephone volume through the TFT screen.
You can only control sound if you have the bmw Bluetooth helmet not sena or cardo
Nice and clear thanks for the video
Thank you so much for this really helpful video.
Superb - many thanks.
Very helpful video. Thank you. Managed to connect it all BUT I cannot for the life of me get the Nav 6 connected to the TFT. Baffling. Suggestions?
You don’t connect the nav to the tft only the mobile and the helmets to each
To control the tft you press the button on the left bar and the icon will change from tft to nav to allow you to control the nav hands free ie using the wheel
Great video of a fairly complicated setup Dragon Rider.
My Nav unit doesn't have a "Proximity Alerts" menu option just below the "Language & Keyboard" menu or anywhere else that I can find. 12:49 on the video. All the traffic chatter is indeed annoying. Anyone know how to address this?
hello, I want to ask how you have it all paired, everything connects every time, even if you turn off the moto helmet navi several times
Thank you, excellent tutorial!
really helpful. doing a duo 2 helmet connection with a Cardo Freecom 4+ on a gs 1250 Rallye - with a Nav 6 and presume all the order of things applies
Yeah I think so keep to the same order and all should be good 👍 thanks for the comment appreciate it happy new year
thanks. Wrote off a GS 1200 en route to Edinburgh on Sept 20th. combination of distraction of screen watching and tiredness so really want to get the audio set up going so as don't repeat experience - ( BMW Connected app recorded my impacting kerb at 70 mph and fortunately wearing fully body armour with a Streetguard suit and MX boots saved me - en route for a £2300 Motorrad tour of Highlands and ended up flying home next day to Gatwick - so I want to get it right !
@@parkview113 ouch glad you are ok let us k ow how it goes
@@DC1008 yes I was very lucky just a slightly damaged rt foot and pulled chest muscles - too many visual distractions if u r tired - am 68 and it was a long ride from Eastbourne area... looking forward to voice nav commands and eyes on the road !
Hello. very interesting video! I drive a Honda 1100 Nt with Tft screen and apple CarPlay. Was recommended to connect Sena and Tft screen as Gps. Not phone, but Gps. You connect the Tft screen as a phone and your GPS as a second phone. What is the reason why you do not pair as Gps in Sena? Thanks for reply 👍
Not really I just chose second phone option because that’s what I was doing with it. Rather than used it as a gps
@@DC1008 Hello. Can you then have an intercom conversation and at the same time hear GPS navigation, without the intercom conversation being interrupted?
@@Dive-and-ride yes if it’s sena to sena
@@DC1008 Nice 👍 Tusen takk (thank you) for Your time 👍
The video BMW should have provided. Would have saved me a lot of time. Thx!
Great video, i will be using it for sure because for now i can only use my phone to make a call through the TFT.
A question: message like whats app or my speed/camera watcher ( Flitsmeister ), used to appear on my XT, where will it appear now : on theTFT or the XT?
How did you get on the top left corner that small icon tft , i have 2022 gs 1250 and cant find that small icom. thank you
I have connected ride navigator and paired rider and passenger intercoms (both of them are Sena). But I can't talk to passengers. Will we connect helmets as intercom pairing after connecting to the navigator?
You need to connect helmet to helmet to speak to one another
, So, the connected ride navigator cannot transfer voice between two intercoms, am I right?
@@byemrahozd so best way to look at it the CRN is the hub for your phone. It connects to your phone allowing music and data for navigation to be used and available in order to push that info out to the rider you connect your helmet to it so you can hear music phone and navigation inputs.
If you have a passenger you connect there helmet to the CRN so they can hear music navigation inputs and also phone etc but unless you connect the two helmets together you won’t be able to talk to each other
So well done. Thank you. Can you clarify something, is the media (music) you are listening configured to come from a streaming service like Pandora? That's what I'm trying to accomplish. Thanks again!
I use Apple Music and Spotify so you should be able to use Pandora but I don’t use it so never tired sorry
Hi Dragon Rider! If you could be so kind, i would aks a question. Is it possible to navigate from mobile phone, listening to music from tft through mobile phone and chat with the passenger? I can connect everything. I am able to navigate and listening music, the passenger also listening the music and i dont know why but passenger also hears nav infos as well... But dont able to chat
What i think is.... The tft connects to mobile phone on one channel and keeps it open continuously. Only one channel. The mobile phone mix the music and the nav infos and transmit to the tft. That is the ftf input. The tft cant separate music and nav infos, tft only get what the mobile phone send. Mixed the music and the nav infos by the phone. On one channel. The nav6 connect to phone as well. Ok. The only big deal is that the ftf disconnect the passenger helmet when phone call comes up.
In this case, i cant chat with the passenger.
In your video you connect the 2 helmets directly. So. The ftf get data from phone (mixed music nav infos or nav6) on one channel. Transmits the mixed data to helmets on two output channel, one-one channel dedicated to each helmet. Nice. So the tft cant organize the intercom between the two helmets. I dont really know why. The output channels are two way channels. So the tft can recive data from helmets not just transmit. Why is so hard to recive chat data from helmet and mix into the transmitted data from helmet to helmet..... Listening music, hear nav infos and chat in the same time. Would be nice,,,,
How do you make it? If i connect the helmets directly to eachother, i have to switch between the helmet channels manually on the headsets. If i listening music and want to say something to the passenger, i have to switch channel to be abel to do it.
So we listening music or chat. And we have to switch.
Maybe only my headsets are the problem I dont know. Can your set do that? Can Sena keep open the tft channel and the intercom channel and mix them in the same time? TFT cant mix channels as I see. That is why we have to connect helmets directly to eachother. How does listening music or navigate maybe both and chat looks like in your case?
Thank you
Works fine with my senna. Have you connected the passenger helmet to the nav?
They shouldn’t be able to hear nav instructions
Only the rider can
You should hear music until your passenger speaks or you .
@@DC1008 Thank you very much! I think I can see it clearly now. I am useing phone to navigate that is why passenger hears nav infos because it is one channel.
It is all about helmet headset. To be able listening music or etc and be able to chat in the same time need a dual ability headset. The headset will mix the two channels (tft-headste and headset-headset). The tft and the intercom. If you have a non dual headsets, you have to switch between the channels manually on the headset. Nobody told it. People think when you are able to connect pilot and passenger headset to the tft, it will organize the chat as well. But not. It is a shame if you ask me. The BMW took an old car infotainment system and with just a bit modification gave it to us.
I am a pilot as well. The pilot headsets do everything we need. The hole thing is a pendrive size device. So 10 usd and a little software and would be perfect.
Maybe interesting fun fact... if you ride solo or dont need intercom, normal ordinary cheap sport inear headsets work fine with the tft. I have tried two type. JBl and a cheap chinese one. Both works. Nav, music, phone call. And the audio quality is better then helmet headsets. I have paired both in the same time to pilot and passenger. Perfect. Of course, no intercom. So solo riders dont need expensive helmet headset to navigate listening music and make calls.
Once again, thank you for your answer!
Very intuitive video mate but I have a question….. would it not be better to use the gps pairing channel on the Sena instead of the 2nd mobile phone pairing to connect to the Nav6?
Found it easier to use as it was next on the menu list ie 2nd phone pairing
GPS pairing should be fine let us know how you get on
Thanks for the video, it helped me set everything up, but now I can hear the music I play on my phone, but there's no sound on the helmet, am I doing something wrong?
Thank you.
Thanks for sharing.
My bike is 2021 XR and a NAV 6 on it, but I can’t control the NAV 6 via multicontroller. After checking your video, I found the top left of your TFT show “TFT~NAV” and mine not. How should I do to call them out?
Press and hold menu up button and it will go from tft to nav
Great video, so simple, whats the advantage of getting the second helmet to connect to the TFT, as to Pairing helmet to helmet? If the wife wants to Liston to her music rather than mine, would this be possible? Cheers.
Think of the tft as the hub you connect everything two it for it all to go through the tft.
However if the passenger wants to listen to there own music then unfortunately you would have to disregard the tft
rider conects phone to helmet and intercom to pillion
Pillion connects to there phone and intercom to rider
You could try rider to tft intercom to pillion and pillion sets there phone to there helmet
That way both should be able to talk
Both answer there own calls and both listen to there own music
Let me know how you get on
@@DC1008 Thank you for your quick response, I get the helmets on Friday, will take your advice onboard and let you know the out come, cheers.
Can we do the same if we listen to music from Nav6?
When do you connect the Nav6 to the TFT ?! Or did you start whith doing that of screen?
Thanks for the video. I'm gonna give this set up and ordering a try. Had it working once but couldn't get it back after turning everything off. Do you use the BMW connected app as well?
I turn the app on to record rides, which is pretty good. It will be good to see what the connected cradle does.
Does this also work with the ZOMO XT2?
Thanks for the video. One question, I did all of this but when I went to access the music it says “racetrack” or something like that and doesn’t light of the music section. Is this a setting I have on that is doing this?
Thanks
Brilliant job, thanks for the help
a question: at the moment only my Sena SRL is paired with my wife's Sena SRL who rides her own motorcycle.
can this remain if after watching your video I have connected everything to my BMW 1250GS
Yes you connect your srl to the tft and nav via phone pairing then connect to your wife via intercom pairing
So on your helmet you can hear music take calls and get directions and you can talk to your wife etc
Many thanks for helpful information ℹ️
I have problem when I contact my helmet to the TFT and mobile, the music 🎶 sondes doesn’t come fine compari when I contact the mobile to the helmet directly with out TFT and navigation ?
What helmet comm system are you using
I have Schuberth C4 Pro , the sounds quality it’s come exultant when I connect the helmet to the mobile directly ?
Excellent video
Good video 👍🏻
Do you have any idea - how to set the media volume louder?
I have paired everything with each other, and in the garage everything seemed to work perfectly well. I could hear the music in the helmet headphones clear and loud (with the possibility to turn the volume up and down with the Sena jog dial - as I have the 30K model).
Unfortunately - when riding - it turned out, that I could hardly hear the music, or navi messages (even with the volume set to maximum).
Only the phone calls were loud enough.
I don’t know - what I have done incorrectly 🤷🏼♂️
I guess when you are playing your media, try to turn your dial on left handle and see if if lights up thevolume bar on your TFT. If it does, keep turning the dial up and the volume will go up too.
What about FM radio listening through the SENA? I own Avant Intercom and I noticed that I cant listen to the radio (from intercom) when I am able to use phone from TFT (not sure exactly what is connected to what). When phone is not available to TFT intercom radio works ok.
Great video mate, thanks
Great video, thank you! Quick question, with Nav6, what is the advantage to pairing the integrated TFT to the Sena? Nav6 can control media, but also adds Pandora/apps as well that run directly on it (I mostly listen to Pandora when riding). Why not just do the pairing from the Nav6 to the Sena and then from the phone directly to the Sena (so you can use the Sena app on the phone to setup intercoms/Sena settings/etc)?
Suspect I'm missing something, just wondered what it is/was! ;)
Hi, great video 👍is it the same process with a cardo?
Very similar
@@DC1008 what's different? I have a cardo Edge a BMW TFT and a Garmin nav 6 to pair up.
The orders the same just how you pair up which buttons to press on the cardo etc
@DC1008 cool, thank you and ride safe
Great video which I have had to follow a few times (after BMW do a software update it wipes everything). However after the last software update, I manage to pair the headset with the TFT ok, but then when it connects to the Sat Nav, it won’t recognise the Headset on the TFT afterwards. Any ideas?
Have the same issue. no clue how to solve till now
hello if you have everything connected like this, how long will your intercom last before it runs out
huh 2nd mobile phone for the GPS tot your helmet, why would you do that? doesn't BMW work as a bridge between the deives?
You have to do that so that the NAV 6 can talk to you ie directions etc. Its quite a process but that's what you have to do there is no bridge that BMW have done. So mobile phone paring to TFT and 2nd mobile phone pairing to NAV 6
Does “hey siri” work to change music or send a text or initiate a call (if necessary)
Cheers mate big thanks 😊
I just followed your method to the letter, but cannot get sound into my Sena headphones, everything shows on th eTFT as if it's working - just no sound, this is on a new 1250GSA & Nav VI. I have a second bike 1200GS with Zumo XT and it works perfectly with th Sena - rather bizarre
Hi mate.
Thanks for this…. However I’ve lost my useage of hey siri or Hi Sena…. Any ideas?
How do you get to Sire?
Hi mate! Your video is first class and I followed it all the way through, everything is working but when i look at the icons on the TFT Navigation is greyed or Ghosted out if you like. Any ideas?
Greyed when riding or stationary
Is your phone connected to the tft and all permissions set to allow with navigation
Most helpful thank you.
Just to confirm Dragon Rider, if I follow your routine up to where I connect the pillion to the tft, but but do not connect the pillion to the tft and just pair rider to pillion?
Yeah try that
@@DC1008 All done and working ok, thanks for your advice.
EXCELLENT!! Thank you!
Considering changing all my connections to those in this video. My Tech details: 2022 XR TFT | Sena 50s | iPhone 14 | BMW Nav 6.
Currently have Phone connected to TFT, Phone connected to Nav 6, Sena connected to phone.
Q's for any of those who have followed that video instructions: 1) when I ride my other bike, will connecting Sena to iPhone mess up when I get back on the XR? 2) can I use Siri with video recommendations? 3) can I mesh chat with my group of riding buddies with the new set up? 4) can I use the sena phone app to manage the sena?
What if "connections" greyed out?
i have problems with phonecalls when i connect it too tft. but when i disconnect it from tft and Just connect my sena to my phone the problem does not accure.
What’s the problem
@@DC1008 both persons here a lot of static i'm not shure if that Whats it cald in English
Thank you for the video, I watched it several times and paired up perfectly with Nav6, TFT and Neotec2. Rode for the first time yesterday with helmets paired, With the helmet paired I stopped getting the navigation voice instructions through the helmet and I also took a call through the helmet and TFT that disconnected the helmets comms to each other. As soon as I stopped and synched the helmets again they were fine. Do you get navigation commands through your riders helmet when connected to the pillion and does taking a phone call through the TFT and helmet disconnect your helmets? Thank you for any help you can offer.
So yes when you take a phone call the helmets will disconnect. They should reconnect however if they don’t alll you do is press the centre button on the helmet once and they reconnect no need to go into intercom pairing again.
If your helmet is paired to the nav 6 you should get voice updates through the riders helmet only.
Go into settings on the helmet Sena and see what’s got priority sometimes music can have priority over voice etc
@@DC1008 Thanks mate, i will give it a go
My understanding is when the nav 6 wants to tell you something it should interrupt intercom and music etc but shouldn’t disconnect but I’ll have a play about and see what happens
For some weird reason I couldn’t get rider to connect until I removed the NAV completely. And reset everything.
Thanks 👊👊👊
Is there a way to take advantage of all the privileges on the TFT and navigation With high quality music ?
I think the quality of music comes down to how good your helmet speakers are
Excellent, sorted
Really compliments.
do you know if can bluetooth a ipod touch to tft for music please?
Should be possible as long as that ipod doesn't have a very outdated ios system
I've got the senna S20 and the TFT won't pick it up
is that right ?
This is my exact setup
Fab!
🙏👍
Doesn’t work. My TFT and SLR2 will never connect. I have tried everything. Spend dozens of hours on this shit. That 500$ piece of scrap is now in the garbage can. Thanks anyway.
Tft setup
I’ll change the title should be setup of tft to phone nav and Sena
A nav VI that actually works? Liar.