...cool video. I like San Francisco and this beautiful area between the Victorian Houses.I'm delighted the streets up and down drive with car or bike. A driverless tour would be a new challenge. :)
Excellent video! That pull over location at the end tho. As someone with a fear of heights, I would hate driving on these hills xD Would be interesting to see it do a 3-point turn on the steep dead end hill to the left at 8:56
Man, the thing at the end with the vehicle doing a parallel park is so freaking annoying. A meter closer and that driver would be unable to complete the maneuver. I think Waymo is disrespecting the other drivers because it doesn't reliable predict such a simple maneuver. Imagine you're in a rush and you *barely* find a parking spot and Waymo blocks you like that. I mean, what the heck.
@@WatchNoah I think in that situation I would be super annoyed at the BMW for driving erratically and not knowing how to parallel park, at least robots can't get road rage.
Watching this from Ireland absolutely gobsmacked as a driver I have to admit I would be extremely nervous but technology waits for no man and no time as it continues to become even more advanced. Is this our future complete? Driverless cars? Don't get me wrong sometimes I hate driving but other times it is nice, a lot work in the future when we don't have the option to drive anymore?
You may have done it in other videos but honestly how good/bad do you find waymo? Would love to see a video on your thoughts on what waymo is good at, ok at and sucks at. Maybe a trip with stops showing the good, ok and bad scenarios? I saw someone on X linked to one of your videos and they were using that video to basically justify their view that Waymo was as good/bad as Tesla FSD.
Hey great question. I will keep this in mind for future videos and quickly share my thoughts here as well, after using Waymo for ~6 months and FSD 12 for ~1 month. Waymo is a really good driver. Their system is like an experienced but conservative driver. I am most impressed by their ability to be assertive when needed and cautious in other situations. For example, it's hard to "bully" the waymo into giving up its right of way at a 4-way stop, while FSD 12 almost always takes too long to move. OTOH, Waymo is not driving aggressively in all situations. It also knows to give a lot of room to pedestrians. Overall, I think the quality of their assert vs. yield decisions shows their system understands a lot about the world. Tesla is good at handling unusual scenarios, especially if it involves breaking traffic rules. For example, I have taken FSD 12 through several construction zones where you are supposed to drive on the wrong side of the road. In Waymo, they have the cars route around these areas which suggests that it cannot handle them reliably. This highlights the strength of Tesla's ML first system. It is more challenging for them to provide hard guarantees but more easily handle situations where it is hard to write explicit rules or collect in-house training data. In the end I think they are fundamentally different products because of their different business models. Waymo's approach is "make the system work at any cost;" Tesla is "given a fixed budget, make the system as good as possible." Most people making comparisons do not understand this difference. I think it is more helpful to view their technical decisions with these strategies in mind.
@Kevin would love to know are these completely AI driven or is there a human operator watching every car on the route? It's taking in case I have to take over in an emergency? Is this car completely self taught how to drive and free to make its decisions or is it got a backup control centre watching every journey to be safe on the speed Demeure that the AI program does not go rogue
A human might have handled the initial pull-out better, but it eventually worked out. Waymo recognized that the truck was double parked and not in a line of traffic. Near the end, Waymo started up before the reversing vehicle got settled in its spot. I would have waited a second or two more. But overall, Waymo navigated pretty well!
They cannot drive the car, only set like at pointer to where it should go. The car then decides if the proposition is acceptable. So in a severe unsolvable case a person will arrive an drive in the car.
Ok. The guy creates a YT channel to talk about almost exclusively about the robot cars. A research business running for a few rich players out there (including Google, AMZ…), and even when he is inside the vehicle hi can't realize that what is going on is that the company has a system in place on when whatever the vehicle gets stuck, which is any situation slightly outside driving in clear straight lines, that the vehicles need to wait to someone, in some random undisclosed location, to receives a red flag pop and assume the control of the car remotely. They are not exactly driverless cars, but more like a mix between hardware’s sensor controlled and remote controlled. Only issue is that companies don't let this "detail" clear to the public. Reason for the secrecy is unknown, but probably is related with the fact that remote control vehicles is not exactly a novelty. Our beloved "security forces" drones the hack around the world, bombing folks in the middle east while operators are sitting in operation rooms in Arizona and California for more than a decade.
You seem to have a knack/aura for making weird things happen around you--good content
Like I rode around SF for seven dang hours and didn't get nearly the density of weird stuff
23:00 Similar thing happened on one of my rides a while back. They gotta let the car reverse if it needs to, other than for three point turns
9:55 red car to the right tries (but fails) to take right-of-way over waymo
Quite assertive!!
I was thinking that too. Red car making a California stop. Waymo was like "not today" lol.
Exactly these two steep streets wasa I driving in my vacation in SF and they are crazy for some one from Switzerland!
12:24 wouldn't that be friggin sweet; absolutely
...cool video.
I like San Francisco and this beautiful area between the Victorian Houses.I'm delighted the streets up and down drive with car or bike.
A driverless tour would be a new challenge. :)
Excellent video! That pull over location at the end tho. As someone with a fear of heights, I would hate driving on these hills xD Would be interesting to see it do a 3-point turn on the steep dead end hill to the left at 8:56
Man, the thing at the end with the vehicle doing a parallel park is so freaking annoying. A meter closer and that driver would be unable to complete the maneuver. I think Waymo is disrespecting the other drivers because it doesn't reliable predict such a simple maneuver. Imagine you're in a rush and you *barely* find a parking spot and Waymo blocks you like that. I mean, what the heck.
Where I live, there are so few parking opportunities in the city that people would outright protest against these vehicles.
to be fair he did not put his blinker on
@@WatchNoah He clearly shifted in reverse. The backlights are visible as the light of day. To be fair, Waymo is not fair.
@@WatchNoah I think in that situation I would be super annoyed at the BMW for driving erratically and not knowing how to parallel park, at least robots can't get road rage.
Watching this from Ireland absolutely gobsmacked as a driver I have to admit I would be extremely nervous but technology waits for no man and no time as it continues to become even more advanced. Is this our future complete? Driverless cars? Don't get me wrong sometimes I hate driving but other times it is nice, a lot work in the future when we don't have the option to drive anymore?
You may have done it in other videos but honestly how good/bad do you find waymo? Would love to see a video on your thoughts on what waymo is good at, ok at and sucks at. Maybe a trip with stops showing the good, ok and bad scenarios? I saw someone on X linked to one of your videos and they were using that video to basically justify their view that Waymo was as good/bad as Tesla FSD.
Hey great question. I will keep this in mind for future videos and quickly share my thoughts here as well, after using Waymo for ~6 months and FSD 12 for ~1 month.
Waymo is a really good driver. Their system is like an experienced but conservative driver. I am most impressed by their ability to be assertive when needed and cautious in other situations. For example, it's hard to "bully" the waymo into giving up its right of way at a 4-way stop, while FSD 12 almost always takes too long to move. OTOH, Waymo is not driving aggressively in all situations. It also knows to give a lot of room to pedestrians. Overall, I think the quality of their assert vs. yield decisions shows their system understands a lot about the world.
Tesla is good at handling unusual scenarios, especially if it involves breaking traffic rules. For example, I have taken FSD 12 through several construction zones where you are supposed to drive on the wrong side of the road. In Waymo, they have the cars route around these areas which suggests that it cannot handle them reliably. This highlights the strength of Tesla's ML first system. It is more challenging for them to provide hard guarantees but more easily handle situations where it is hard to write explicit rules or collect in-house training data.
In the end I think they are fundamentally different products because of their different business models. Waymo's approach is "make the system work at any cost;" Tesla is "given a fixed budget, make the system as good as possible." Most people making comparisons do not understand this difference. I think it is more helpful to view their technical decisions with these strategies in mind.
That end drop-off was not ideal! 😅
@Kevin would love to know are these completely AI driven or is there a human operator watching every car on the route? It's taking in case I have to take over in an emergency? Is this car completely self taught how to drive and free to make its decisions or is it got a backup control centre watching every journey to be safe on the speed Demeure that the AI program does not go rogue
Is there equipment that on the street the car uses or is it all contained? Can the cars leave the city?
A human might have handled the initial pull-out better, but it eventually worked out. Waymo recognized that the truck was double parked and not in a line of traffic. Near the end, Waymo started up before the reversing vehicle got settled in its spot. I would have waited a second or two more. But overall, Waymo navigated pretty well!
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2:02 i dont know how this works but it looks like a human took over right here lol
They cannot drive the car, only set like at pointer to where it should go. The car then decides if the proposition is acceptable. So in a severe unsolvable case a person will arrive an drive in the car.
*Just build more subways, San Francisco is dense enough to not require cars!*
Ok. The guy creates a YT channel to talk about almost exclusively about the robot cars. A research business running for a few rich players out there (including Google, AMZ…), and even when he is inside the vehicle hi can't realize that what is going on is that the company has a system in place on when whatever the vehicle gets stuck, which is any situation slightly outside driving in clear straight lines, that the vehicles need to wait to someone, in some random undisclosed location, to receives a red flag pop and assume the control of the car remotely. They are not exactly driverless cars, but more like a mix between hardware’s sensor controlled and remote controlled. Only issue is that companies don't let this "detail" clear to the public. Reason for the secrecy is unknown, but probably is related with the fact that remote control vehicles is not exactly a novelty. Our beloved "security forces" drones the hack around the world, bombing folks in the middle east while operators are sitting in operation rooms in Arizona and California for more than a decade.
Waymo will end up causing accidents driving that way. Needs quicker decision making.