It's better when you get your reasons and facts right, otherwise others can also gave their own opinion about you screwing up about it or being too hasty without reason.
“That Cannon has got to go. There is no reason he should still have it here at all. If you wanted to give him a beam, why not that mouth blast?” Sparking Zero trailer near the end has him preparing that mouth blast (probably gonna be called Revenge Cannon like in Raging Blast). This video was prophetic nonetheless.
You know, Gotenks really does have a lack of fusion techniques. A Kamekame Buster or a Kamekame Burn would be nice to see. Or even a Galactic Kame Tree Buster!
+Uni BlackSister Now that Dragonball Heroes has revealed that an Adult Gotenks would have access to a Burning Kamehameha attack, that's now confirmed as truth. XP
Big Tree Kamehameha (Big Tree Cannon + Kamehameha) Final Assault/Charge! (Final Cannon + Assault!/Charge!) Rapid Kamehame-Buster (Rapid Kamehameha + Finish Buster) Just some ideas.
Versaccee no, Trunks never used a mouth blast. He still has a victory cannon which is his final flash-esque finger beam laser thing. Big Tree Cannon is just a mistranslation.
What I never understood is why the called it a generic Full Power Energy Wave when it already had a canonical name in the manga, anime and Budokai series at this point? Double Buster!
I get it. I never had a problem with characters having volleys/barrages, Full Power Energy Waves, or Super Explosive Waves. And it wasn't like those were completely generic. The shape, colors, and amount of blasts fired(volleys) changed a bit.
Volleys have their advantages, such as using only 2 bars rather than the usual 3. also, in some situations its harder to dodge. it does significantly less damage than most 3 bar waves, but still.
In my opinion, I think just because Goten mispronounces the name of the attack that doesn't mean the name should be changed because he's still doing a kamehameha the same way everyone else does it, he's just saying it wrong.
Gotenks actually DID use Die Die Missile Barrage in the Dragonball Z movie; Dragonball Z: The Wrath of The Dragon. It was the barrage of golden ki blasts he used on Hirudegarn, before Hirudegarn shed his skin. It's a stock move that the character actually used. Other stock moves that characters actually have; Majin Vegeta's self destructing thingy (of which I forgot the american dub name. Though, I remember the japanese dub name, Atonement Blast.) Super Buu's Revenge Death Bomber (In the anime when Super Buu was fighting Mystic Gohan, he blew himself up to try to kill Mystic Gohan). Goku Super Saiyan 3 Super Explosive Wave (Don't tell me this didn't happen in the anime. It happened in a TV special ONLY shown in Japan. I saw it when I took a vacation to japan. P.S. You can't find it on the internet. It was ONLY shown in japan.) Cell Perfect Form's Perfect Barrier (In the japanese manga, this wasn't an attack, or a barrier. It wasn't an offensive, or defensive technique. It was Cell powering up). Vegeta Second Form base form Full Power Energy Wave Barrage (In the original japanese manga, this was actually a form of Galick Gun.) Et Cetera.
Piccolo's just random's shit. he have a reason for appearing, Gotenks said in the manga/anime that Piccolo had to be in it, has you never played real volleyball? two (or more) people and one ball.
***** Not every attack has to be unique. And some characters are more relevant than others. BUT THIS FREAKING GOTENKS OF THE FUSION SAGA. The saga named after FUSIONS. He is a relevant character as relevant characters can get. Why all his attacks stock? And it is a Fusion. Why does he only has moves Trunks uses? He is right on this one.
Really...I can't stand him too, never satisfied with anything about this game. It's simple, don't play it and play other games if you dislike everything about this game
y cant they give gotenks "splitting headache" attack. that would be awesome( the attack he used on buu where he shoots a beam in the air and it splits buu in half"
the die die missles are actually a move he used in a movie. i kinda like how he uses it, its done differently than the normal barage, he throws them out while the charge is over his head. though he did so many crazy things in the show you think they would come up with something better.
Definitely, SSJ Trunks should to have Finish Buster as a Super, and Full Power Energy Wave Barrage instead of High Speed Rush. About Gotenks' base form, he should to have the Mouth Blast attack instead of that generic energy wave, his High Speed Rush is okay since it has some different animations (like the headbutt at the start, and those kicks with both hands on hips), and that "Kamehameha Cannon" actually exists, I don't remember in which game, but it exists. Replace the Big Tree Cannon with the Kamehameha Cannon for every Gotenks' forms
I should point this out. Trunks DID have a nameless energy wave attack in the show which he used against Goten in the World Tournament. He used the exact same pose to charge it, too. Since it didn't have a name, the game designers gave it a generic name.
That volley is what Gotenks did in the show when he fought Super Buu in a city. Plus I aways thought that Tree Cannon was Trunks version of Final Flash, like father like son.
Well, Goten couldn't control his Kamekameha all that well in the anime so I think it could have been an attack that's prone to missing but deals a bit more damage than a normal Kamehameha
I found your videos interesting and nice but 1:56 are you going to be complaining about what it says even though you pronounce Kaioken wrong? No hate I'm just saying
It's a joke probably. There was a time when Goten used kamehameha, said it wrong and it ended up changing the way the blast came out. It's like have poop come out of your mouth instead of butt.
well i believe, the moveset are good the way they are, it can get better, but nothing is wrong with them, the main point is do you want a real dbz game, or a fake one, because whoevers talking during the video is talking about fake stuff to add to the game
No offense, but you forgot that Gotenks really started his fight with Buu in Super Sayain since his base form attacks failed. The fight got more interesting when he went Super Sayain 3.
yea volley attacks are great to have, because they are helpful during gameplay. Also it's not always about what type of move that looks good for a character, but what will help them win or be effective in a battle against someone. That is what omega2040 is missing and keep calling the attacks lame.
@SuperXD25 Because after the fight Gotenks vs Buu, Gotenks gets turned into chocolate and buu absorbs him, also piccolo and gohan the same way, notice that the 3nd form of super buu has the same trousers like gohan.....
@kakashiuchiha33 They used the big tree cannon in book 37 i think :P where trunks and goten was disguised as a fighter in the adults tournament vs Android 18, when they were in the air.
@djwack1000 ummm actually Goten's first Kamehameha was against Trunks at the world martial arts tournament and he called it kamekameha.. Though in the dub he doesn't say it.
@taytay8787lol What mt paozu? just get the Dragonballs and wish for it, but it has to be Shenron, not porunga or the red dragon. you know how to get dragonballs right?
i like your reviews, but it seems like you expect every character to have non-stock techniques. If no one had stock techniques then, no one would have any special techniques...if you get what I'm saying...it's hard to explain...but not every technique for every character can be unique, realistically. They have to have some stock. some more than others. Also, they try to focus more on main characters, not so much on the minor ones.
I think the reason Goten has sleep is because Goten and Trunks are always sleeping in instead of getting up to train. Because they're little kids, they slack off a lot more. So I think the reason for the sleep was to emphasize that.
IMHO Gotenks needed a Kamekameha in Base and SSJ3 forms as his 1st B2. this could also be in reference to when he tried to finish off Super Buu with it in SSJ3 and returned back into his Base before separating. I could be mixing this with his fight against Mr.Buu while SSJ1... but either way it should replace trunks tree canon in two slots for Gotenks.
ok i know why you are saying that they could have at least made super gotenks have something like kamehameha cannon but they will not remember they use ALL attacks off of the show they wont just through random moves in there except for Janemba, Gogeta, Future Gohan, etc. because they did not fight for long periods of time or in multiple episodes or movies so its like they had too , so of course its going to be the same moves. Raging blast had a variety of moves but i think bt3 deserved them
I always preferred the wii version..but thats just me, there is really no difference besides controls(I can't remember but I think you can play online on the wii version)
Base Goten could have been "getting excited" in place of "sleep". SSJ1 Trunks could have dropped the generic rush for Finish Buster. Gotenks could have had... Base: Big Tree Canon, satan/yamcha style Rush, KameKame Ha SSJ1: KameKame Ha, Galactic Donut, Ghost Attack SSJ3: Ghost Assisted Rush, DieDie Missile, Ultra Buu Buu Volley Ball and doing a Failed Kamehameha when powering down from SSJ3 would be fitting and funny.
Worth mentioning that trunks charges his blast like a final flash
Exactly
Like father, like son
About SSJ3 Gotenks' energy barrage move, he used it in the fight with Boo and also in Movie 13.
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Incredible Half-Saiyan Why do you always spam in Omega's commentary...
Neutral Stroke y r u here?
Incredible Half-Saiyan Because I watch Omega's videos.
It's called criticizing.
He can have his own opinion.
its also called being a smartass bitch
It's better when you get your reasons and facts right, otherwise others can also gave their own opinion about you screwing up about it or being too hasty without reason.
No he can’t opinions are bad
@@wrjtung3456 stop playing XD
“That Cannon has got to go.
There is no reason he should still have it here at all. If you wanted to give him a beam, why not that mouth blast?”
Sparking Zero trailer near the end has him preparing that mouth blast (probably gonna be called Revenge Cannon like in Raging Blast). This video was prophetic nonetheless.
W
And it ended being called victory bazooka
You know, Gotenks really does have a lack of fusion techniques. A Kamekame Buster or a Kamekame Burn would be nice to see. Or even a Galactic Kame Tree Buster!
do u like dis game??
that last one sounds epic make that in the next dbz game
+Uni BlackSister Now that Dragonball Heroes has revealed that an Adult Gotenks would have access to a Burning Kamehameha attack, that's now confirmed as truth. XP
Big Tree Kamehameha (Big Tree Cannon + Kamehameha)
Final Assault/Charge! (Final Cannon + Assault!/Charge!)
Rapid Kamehame-Buster (Rapid Kamehameha + Finish Buster)
Just some ideas.
I just realized that Big Tree Cannon is supposed to be Victory Cannon, but the translation screwed up.
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Nurse Valentine 2 different moves
Versaccee
they are not.
Nurse Valentine It's called revenge cannon in the west, he uses a mouth blast.
Versaccee
no, Trunks never used a mouth blast. He still has a victory cannon which is his final flash-esque finger beam laser thing. Big Tree Cannon is just a mistranslation.
I don't find Kid Trunks' throw boring. He kicks his opponent in the air and punches him right after.
His throw what he did to that kid and Hercule at the world tournament.
It was just a punch.@@ToysballzSaga
@@oumar-michaelkonate3724 I meant the kid I know he punch Hercule in the face .
Lol gohan comes in to help goten kill gohan
dude, piccolo loves his volley ball
Goten: Dodge!
Piccolo: WHY DIDN'T YOU DOOOOOOOOOODGE!?
And he also glossed over the fact that Trunks actually used a generic energy wave in the show. Specifically, he used it against Goten.
Also SS3 Gotenks' volley vs Buu, who also isn't a generic move at all.
Anybody watching this after the newest Sparking Zero trailer ?
What I never understood is why the called it a generic Full Power Energy Wave when it already had a canonical name in the manga, anime and Budokai series at this point? Double Buster!
The huge mouth blast SSJ3 Gotenks does in the anime/manga would of been amazing.
I get it. I never had a problem with characters having volleys/barrages, Full Power Energy Waves, or Super Explosive Waves. And it wasn't like those were completely generic. The shape, colors, and amount of blasts fired(volleys) changed a bit.
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Volleys have their advantages, such as using only 2 bars rather than the usual 3. also, in some situations its harder to dodge. it does significantly less damage than most 3 bar waves, but still.
In my opinion, I think just because Goten mispronounces the name of the attack that doesn't mean the name should be changed because he's still doing a kamehameha the same way everyone else does it, he's just saying it wrong.
I have come twelve years late to point out that Big Tree Cannon is a mistranslation of Victory Cannon. How the hell even.
Piccolo coming out of nowhere is a reference to the anime. Gotenks originally performed the "Charging Ultra Buu Buu Volleyball" move with Piccolo.
Gotenks actually DID use Die Die Missile Barrage in the Dragonball Z movie; Dragonball Z: The Wrath of The Dragon. It was the barrage of golden ki blasts he used on Hirudegarn, before Hirudegarn shed his skin. It's a stock move that the character actually used. Other stock moves that characters actually have; Majin Vegeta's self destructing thingy (of which I forgot the american dub name. Though, I remember the japanese dub name, Atonement Blast.) Super Buu's Revenge Death Bomber (In the anime when Super Buu was fighting Mystic Gohan, he blew himself up to try to kill Mystic Gohan). Goku Super Saiyan 3 Super Explosive Wave (Don't tell me this didn't happen in the anime. It happened in a TV special ONLY shown in Japan. I saw it when I took a vacation to japan. P.S. You can't find it on the internet. It was ONLY shown in japan.) Cell Perfect Form's Perfect Barrier (In the japanese manga, this wasn't an attack, or a barrier. It wasn't an offensive, or defensive technique. It was Cell powering up). Vegeta Second Form base form Full Power Energy Wave Barrage (In the original japanese manga, this was actually a form of Galick Gun.) Et Cetera.
Gotenks moveset: Finish Sign, False Courage, I'll Make Short Work Of You!, Wolf Fang Fist, Big Tree KameKameha
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So he did use Super Explosive Wave
Can I ask against who he used that move?
MugetsuNoRyuu none of these are stock the perfect barrier showed goku flying away from it so yeah review your information
Goten + Kamekameha= Aswome
Piccolo's just random's shit. he have a reason for appearing, Gotenks said in the manga/anime that Piccolo had to be in it, has you never played real volleyball? two (or more) people and one ball.
It's ironic too, because Goten's voice seemed to have stood out more in Gotenks' base form.
you made such a big deal about gt goku's spirit bomb being pronounced wrong but what about goten's kamehameha
Same with BT3 if I'm remembering right. Nice little mechanics there.
This guy always says bad stuff about the moves
Exactly, not everyone's attacks have to be as unique as possible. Some characters are more relevant than others.
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Word I skip what he says during these videos.
I'm thinking STFU dude. lol
***** Not every attack has to be unique. And some characters are more relevant than others. BUT THIS FREAKING GOTENKS OF THE FUSION SAGA. The saga named after FUSIONS. He is a relevant character as relevant characters can get.
Why all his attacks stock? And it is a Fusion. Why does he only has moves Trunks uses? He is right on this one.
MarquisNYC If you skip the stuff he says during the videos then how do you know he only says negative stuffs? Not saying that he doesn't.
Gotenks a beast boi
Why was goten sleeping?
He is never satisfied lol
There were moments where i really couldn't stand this guy, it's like he was never satisfied with anything.
Really...I can't stand him too, never satisfied with anything about this game. It's simple, don't play it and play other games if you dislike everything about this game
after goten used afterimage he got kicked hard in the mouth
@Seetan490 If you listen closely when Goten does his ultimate in this game, it sounds like he says "Kamegameha"
The mouth blast is the Revenge Cannon
y cant they give gotenks "splitting headache" attack. that would be awesome( the attack he used on buu where he shoots a beam in the air and it splits buu in half"
the die die missles are actually a move he used in a movie. i kinda like how he uses it, its done differently than the normal barage, he throws them out while the charge is over his head. though he did so many crazy things in the show you think they would come up with something better.
Definitely, SSJ Trunks should to have Finish Buster as a Super, and Full Power Energy Wave Barrage instead of High Speed Rush.
About Gotenks' base form, he should to have the Mouth Blast attack instead of that generic energy wave, his High Speed Rush is okay since it has some different animations (like the headbutt at the start, and those kicks with both hands on hips), and that "Kamehameha Cannon" actually exists, I don't remember in which game, but it exists. Replace the Big Tree Cannon with the Kamehameha Cannon for every Gotenks' forms
I should point this out. Trunks DID have a nameless energy wave attack in the show which he used against Goten in the World Tournament. He used the exact same pose to charge it, too. Since it didn't have a name, the game designers gave it a generic name.
That volley is what Gotenks did in the show when he fought Super Buu in a city. Plus I aways thought that Tree Cannon was Trunks version of Final Flash, like father like son.
Base Goten does get shown using an energy volley while they are training on their own for the tournament. This may be manga only though
Not everyone's kamehameha is going to be unique. Was it In the show?
Well, Goten couldn't control his Kamekameha all that well in the anime so I think it could have been an attack that's prone to missing but deals a bit more damage than a normal Kamehameha
@@dylanmacias2686 no
@@muhammadanugrahekasepto9562 no what
The attacks dont do a lot bc 1
Your not boosting them and 2 they do more when ur fully charged
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Who else thinks 'Big Tree Cannon' was supposed to be 'Buster Cannon'?
out of alll the damn moves gotenks had too
Man. I thought I was insane for thinking he said kamekameha! He actually said it!
Goten say's Dodge!!! to Gohan he really nows his biggest Weakness
Trunks' second costume is just Goku's Resurrection F Gi without the little flap bit and the symbol.
trunks is the brains goten is like his dad he doesn't think he fights
in tenkaichi tag team they actually called it kamekameha. thanks alot omega2040.
I found your videos interesting and nice but 1:56 are you going to be complaining about what it says even though you pronounce Kaioken wrong? No hate I'm just saying
It's a joke probably. There was a time when Goten used kamehameha, said it wrong and it ended up changing the way the blast came out. It's like have poop come out of your mouth instead of butt.
Goten's Kamehameha should be called Kamekamaha? With that logic, Baby's Final Flash should be called a Big Bang Attack.
This is kinda nostalgic damn
well i believe, the moveset are good the way they are, it can get better, but nothing is wrong with them, the main point is do you want a real dbz game, or a fake one, because whoevers talking during the video is talking about fake stuff to add to the game
No offense, but you forgot that Gotenks really started his fight with Buu in Super Sayain since his base form attacks failed. The fight got more interesting when he went Super Sayain 3.
yea volley attacks are great to have, because they are helpful during gameplay. Also it's not always about what type of move that looks good for a character, but what will help them win or be effective in a battle against someone. That is what omega2040 is missing and keep calling the attacks lame.
@SuperXD25 Because after the fight Gotenks vs Buu, Gotenks gets turned into chocolate and buu absorbs him, also piccolo and gohan the same way,
notice that the 3nd form of super buu has the same trousers like gohan.....
Or even better. That rush attack he used on Fat Buu with the energy blast at the end.
Gotenks needed Piccolo's help, remember?
when goten says it it i kamekameha
3:50 NO GOTENKS! YOU DESTROYED THE HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER!
I'm glad you got these characters out of the way...
@kakashiuchiha33 They used the big tree cannon in book 37 i think :P where trunks and goten was disguised as a fighter in the adults tournament vs Android 18, when they were in the air.
@djwack1000
ummm actually Goten's first Kamehameha was against Trunks at the world martial arts tournament and he called it kamekameha.. Though in the dub he doesn't say it.
goten saying kamekameha in his ultimate=i liked
if only that was his ultimate's name
Trunks' super sayin ultimate is his dad's final flash kidsized
ssj3 gotenks does deserve that barrage attack though seeing as he did actually do it in the anime
1:37
SNAKE! NO! YOU'VE CREATED A TIME PARADOX! D:
Oh, I figured what you're talking about now.
@taytay8787lol What mt paozu? just get the Dragonballs and wish for it, but it has to be Shenron, not porunga or the red dragon. you know how to get dragonballs right?
i like your reviews, but it seems like you expect every character to have non-stock techniques. If no one had stock techniques then, no one would have any special techniques...if you get what I'm saying...it's hard to explain...but not every technique for every character can be unique, realistically. They have to have some stock. some more than others. Also, they try to focus more on main characters, not so much on the minor ones.
@TheAcer8910 It was never named in the anime, but yeah, that move. I believe it's called Revenge Cannon in this game.
1:32 - Even Gohan is teaching Gohan how to dodge.
kid trunks throw is cool. he's trying to mimic his dad's =3
@HeroGoku No that's in the budokai series not in the Tenkaichis.
@GunnerX5 well in budokai 3 you can use teen gohan vs goku and use the father-son kaehameha so its actually not unusual
I think the reason Goten has sleep is because Goten and Trunks are always sleeping in instead of getting up to train. Because they're little kids, they slack off a lot more. So I think the reason for the sleep was to emphasize that.
A big kamekameha or kamekameha cannon would look to much like final kamehameha (vegito)
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why are you talking about vegito on the goten kid trunks and gotenks vid
xXeliteJazz I'm not completely. I'm saying a fusion between big tree canon and kamehameha would look like vegito's move
Kirby Crab Still better than what they gave Gotenks tho.
Just make it blue :P
did you notice gohan says kamekameha during bros. kamehameha, i thought that was a nice touch.
full power energy volley is NOT a stock attack when it's vegeta's son
That was the Big Tree Cannon. Check the wiki.
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Violets are blue
I came for for ghost kamikaze and volley ball attacks
I guess you did too
IMHO Gotenks needed a Kamekameha in Base and SSJ3 forms as his 1st B2.
this could also be in reference to when he tried to finish off Super Buu with it in SSJ3 and returned back into his Base before separating.
I could be mixing this with his fight against Mr.Buu while SSJ1... but either way it should replace trunks tree canon in two slots for Gotenks.
btw the volley attack was used twice if i'm not mistaken against buu and hirduegarn?
Anyone else notice that kid trunks super sayain does his big tree cannon like vegetas final flash
On of Goten's attacks should be him throwing hella rocks at people.
Actually Trunks used it against 18 when he and Goten were disguised as Mighty Mask.
I don't remember seeing the Big Tree Cannon in the manga. :O
I think Piccolo is there due to him being there when Gotenks did the attack to Buu.
@omega2040 how has not one person notice big tree cannon is a final flash with rings around it
Gotenks had so much techniques in his base form in the anime...why don't game developers what the fight xD
Almost forgot, didn't Goten have False Courage?
That'd be cool if instead of high speed rush, Gotenks had charging mad bull attack as one of those charge supers.
ok i know why you are saying that they could have at least made super gotenks have something like kamehameha cannon but they will not remember they use ALL attacks off of the show they wont just through random moves in there except for Janemba, Gogeta, Future Gohan, etc. because they did not fight for long periods of time or in multiple episodes or movies so its like they had too , so of course its going to be the same moves. Raging blast had a variety of moves but i think bt3 deserved them
I always preferred the wii version..but thats just me, there is really no difference besides controls(I can't remember but I think you can play online on the wii version)
What's so bad about Goten's rush? He used it in the show against Trunks.
He said the rush was the one good part of his moveset
It's victory cannon btw, big tree cannon is a mistranslation
Wait... Big tree cannon? I thought it was called Victory Cannon. Am I missing something?
American and European versions have their differences.
2:07-3:21 Vegeta had it coming for not taking him to the amusement park.
Base Goten could have been "getting excited" in place of "sleep".
SSJ1 Trunks could have dropped the generic rush for Finish Buster.
Gotenks could have had...
Base: Big Tree Canon, satan/yamcha style Rush, KameKame Ha
SSJ1: KameKame Ha, Galactic Donut, Ghost Attack
SSJ3: Ghost Assisted Rush, DieDie Missile, Ultra Buu Buu Volley Ball
and doing a Failed Kamehameha when powering down from SSJ3 would be fitting and funny.
what gotenks valley isnt dull its just stock but its pretty accurate and strongest in game and that cannon should be at 9000 damage