Giants staff SOUNDS OFF about losing Saquon Barkley on "Hard Knocks" 👀 | Get Up
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- The Get Up crew react to Giants Sr. VP and GM Joe Schoen's comments on losing Saquon Barkley.
0:00 Giants comments on Saquon
2:00 Saquon's contract with the Eagles
4:00 The identity of the Giants
6:40 Burning questions
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They missed the whole point. They had him and didn’t build with him. They have no identity he had to break tackles as soon as he touch the rock.
At this point these analysts don’t know what they talking bout
At the same time saquon is good but at the same time he a runningback im not paying him that
These anchors are hard to listen to. They are so dumb. What a waste of money.
Note : NYG ranked 5th in rush yards BEFORE CONTACT per carry 2019-2022 and BUF ranked 4th
Yards per carry:
Devin Singletary (4.5), Saquon Barkley (4.3)
Yards after contact per carry:
Singletary (3), Barkley (3)
Missed tackles forced per carry:
Singletary (0.2), Barkley (0.15)
Explosive run play rate:
Singletary (12.4%), Barkley (10.5%)
Any team in this era building around a RB is doomed. It’s a QB driven league no ifs ands or buts. Dont even need a premier WR either. Look at Love and GB last year. Top QB and a top OLine drives winning.
I’m 30 the Giants have been rebuilding the Offensive line for over a decade 😭😂 it’s the most shameful thing.
its just paying back the devil for those super bowl rings lol
RaiderNation here ..hold my beer at QB
😂😂😂
Why do people think that getting fired up means that you were offended. It just means that he’s excited. he knows that the Giants didn’t bet on Saquon and his ability. So he’s doubling down. That doesn’t mean he was offended.
Yeah i also think it was the tone in which they said "we are making the 40 mil guy better, not to just for him to hand it off to the 12 mil dollar guy"
Kinda felt like they were saying it like the 40 mil guy was better than the 12 mil guy. Saquon wasn't worth keeping around. But Jones was...if it was my brother or something idk Id prob be ready to say something for sure lol
Saquon was never the problem in NY and you guys should discuss how D. Jones miserably failed to deliver on the field for the Giants.
do u know football at all
You don’t draft a RB at 2 without a franchise QB or OL
Drafting Saquon over Franchise QB Josh Allen & Trading OBJ the reason they are sorry to this day
Saquon should have never been a Giant and they’re still paying for it today
Typical Dave Gettleman
Note : NYG ranked 5th in rush yards BEFORE CONTACT per carry 2019-2022 and BUF ranked 4th
Yards per carry:
Devin Singletary (4.5), Saquon Barkley (4.3)
Yards after contact per carry:
Singletary (3), Barkley (3)
Missed tackles forced per carry:
Singletary (0.2), Barkley (0.15)
Explosive run play rate:
Singletary (12.4%), Barkley (10.5%)
@jaysonsmith7264 🤡
@@brandonmoyd2942🤡
They forgot their line was never a priority
How was the line not a priority? No team has invested more into the O-line than the Giants. The problem is that they suck at drafting O-linemen outside of Thomas.
Since Daniel Jones was drafted (2019), here's how they prioritized OL:
- drafted Andrew Thomas fourth, Matt Peart 99th and Shane Lemieux 150th
- drafted Evan Neal seventh and Josh Ezeudu 67th
- drafted Jon Michael Schmitz 57th
Of those names mentioned, one is a stud, the rest are huge question marks. They prioritized the offensive line, just simply whiffed.
@@Chalk89so true.
Is JMS not a stud yet? Haven’t kept up with him, but I thought he’d be good
@@awesomebeast7509 far from it, wildly inconsistent.
Mike T who brought in Tbow just when Sanchez started looking comfortable is giving analysis lol
😂😂😂
The Giants didn't suck because of Saquon. He was the only good player on that team. The Giants staff having so much faith in bust is why they've been trash
not even patty maholmes can be successful with that team
Saquon is so overrated. Many RBs in the league have done SO MUCH more and dont have a contract for some reason. Dalvin cook for example. Better career stats than saquon, but isn’t on a team. Only reason Barkley is in the NFL is because he was the 2nd pick. You don’t build a team around a RB
@@ajkareem5685 Yes because the Giants have done such a good job building around their QB
3.9 yards a carry… Bro Andrew Thomas, Dex, Okereke, McKinney(former Giant) all better than Saquon at this point in his career. And 2022 DJ was far better than Saquon did Saquon have 22 total TDs and 4,000 total yards? I loved having Saquon on the team, but reality is he had 1 great season for us (rookie season), 2 really good ones, 1 bad one, and missed a whole season from injury. He’s not the same back he was elite, now he’s a slightly above average back.
@@JesseGMan7 he's running behind a terrible o line. That's why the wb was injured too, they can't even protect themselves
Giants front office don’t want to admit they made a mistake on the Daniel Jones contract. If they did someone getting fired at the end of the day.
Ownership publicly endorsed DJ and multiple reports said they pushed for the front office to pay him. Its a losing battle for them either way.
He’s paid for 2 years … can’t get out after this. He also has identical stats to Trevor Lawrence through 50 games. Trevor Lawrence is making 55 million a year not to mention Joe Shane was just making a point that it would be tough for anyone to succeed behind an offensive line that’s not very goodcould be a quarterback and our case also running back. Saquon was hurt a lot and struggled to perform behind one of the worst offensive lines in football. He’s a good dude and I hope he has success against us not against us.
They will be fired next year
Before lunch break
If you didn’t watch the episode they said later that this is make or break. Kinda admitting that they made a mistake
Tyrod Taylor and Danny Devito out performed Daniel Jones
That’s a problem
Not really. Devito got sacked almost 40 times in 6 games 😂…. You know a bad YEAR for an offensive line is 35-40 sacks?
That’s the real problem.
@@nikeguy2 still out performed Danny
Tyrod won 2 games all season - Danny Dimes won 10 and beat a 13 win playoff team in a playoff game the year before when the roster was even worse. Devito barely beat a couple scrub teams when the defense was averaging 5 takeaways a game.
@@MR.OFFSEASONFOOTBALL Not really, he was 3-3 and had some REALLY bad games…. Like “why are you considered a professional?” bad with zero upside. Tyrod wasn’t that much better.
Wasn't djones injured half of last season? Kinda difficult not to outperform a player when said player is injured.
They can’t keep blaming the O-Line, they know they have buyers remorse on that Daniel Jones contract.
EXACTLY!!!
saquan was the reason the offense opened up in the first place because the defense had to play up front with him in the backfield. Giants chose danny pennies over a top 5 rb. They didnt build the oline, over 6 years they had with him. They clutched on to danny because he was affiliated with eli's camp
Saquon was NEVER the issue. NYG drafted Jones as the 6th overall pick and paid him 40 mil for nothing. NYG had OBJ, Collins & Saquon at one point and lost them all.
40 mil is alot less than how much the eagles are overpaying jalen
@@jaysonsmith7264Jalen’s contract was a reward for having just made the superbowl. Jones’ contract was a reward for a wild card win against Kirk Cousins.
@@jaysonsmith7264😂😂 if jalen overpaid what is Danny nickel is ??
You don’t draft a RB at 2 without a franchise QB or OL
Drafting Saquon over Franchise QB Josh Allen & Trading OBJ the reason they are sorry to this day
Saquon should have never been a Giant and they’re still paying for it today
Typical Dave Gettleman
Jalen Hurts 3,800 yds 23 TD 15 INT 89 passer rating with 2 #1 WR’s, top 5 TE & best OL in the league🤣🤣💀 Mahomes Burrow & Allen throwing at minimum 40 TD’s with all that help🤣
Hes not wrong.. He isnt.. If you have the worst OLine in ages, IDC who you got back there at QB your not gonna win a lot of games. Protect the QB.
Giants basically said we paid our QB no way we paying a RB but everybody seems to miss it . Total disrespect towards saquan he wasn’t coming back unless it was a team friendly
Question: what type of back DOES a 40 mil a year QB hand off to if not a “12m back”? I’m curious🤔
Also 40 is overpaid. He should be at 25 especially cause he needs a RB like Barkley.
IF JOE BURROW TOOK THE BENGALS TO THE SUPER BOWL WITH EASILY THE WORST OL THEN THE GIANTS DONT HAVE MUCH OF AN EXCUSE.... THEIR PROBLEM IS DANIEL JONES
Lol. Bro u really comparing the Bengals to Giantts? Im not saying Jones is that guy bur c’mon Begals have Chase,Higgins and Mixon
@@rome7570 no im saying they can’t blame the OL for their past couple of years of failure. and im not saying they can make it to the super bowl either, but blaming the OL instead of the real root of their issues is crazy
boyd the 3rd bengals wr wouldve been the clear wr1 with the giants lol
@@rome7570they don’t have Mixon anymore
Do the giants have tee higgens, Chase, Boyd, and mixon ?
whoever paid Jones gotta go
They wasn't even using him right anyways 😭
How were they supposed to use him?
How would you have used him 🤣
The funny thing is, it's true, you need to pass the ball , not just hand off to Barkley all day
Not funny - stupid and short sighted. Please tell me what opens a passing game more than a run threat? I’ll wait
The comments toward how terrible the giants staff is makes me smile 😂😂
That and Eagles actually thinking they doin something is what is funny to me 😂
@@limone2464eagles are the giants daddy but go off 😂
Love being under the radar as a Giants fan. Let everyone say we suck and let’s prove them wrong.
It’s amazing how every single comment is dissected and scrutinized. Hard Knocks is hard knocks.
@@ItsAPhillyJawn with 1 ring? Look I am not a giants cowboys, niners or rskins fan
But you guys have 1 ring, least accomplished franchise in your division 😂
Don’t wanna talk about the past? Ok.
You guys went to the SB due to a Cupcake season, cupcake playoff run vs daniel jones and qbless niners and lost the SB to a qbless mahomes, although the refs were helping your team big time(everybody saw that).
Ok lets go back to the most current season, you guys were winning UNTILL yall got the big teams (miami is not a big team, they can only beat teams under .500 so no big accomplishment there), got helped by the refs vs the bills (everybody saw that), barely beat the chiefs and after that please remind me what happened 😂😂😂
I already know you are not answering back 😂
@@user-fb9wn8er3e I said staff not the team lol
The media never provides real context in these debates. At the time DJ was given that contract there were no other QB options that were viable for the Giants and he had just won a playoff game. Its clear that the Giants wanted to keep them both and the decision to extend DJ made more sense in the long run. If the Giants would have franchised DJ and signed S.B, that would have been more of a cap hit which would have not allowed them to BUILD THE TEAM in 2023.Then if you factor in the cap increase coming, D.J's contract is going to look even better.Yes, S.B was the best player on the team but this team averaged 5 -6 wins since he had been with the NYGs. Look at these other teams with like 3-4 offensive pro bowler players. Those teams arent only winning solely because of their respective QBs. Pat Mahommes isnt great simply because of his talent. He also has had consistentcy throughout his career. S.B was our only talent and to pay him for the same production that you can get out of a younger player would've been foolish.
The Giants should feel blessed that they are no longer in a position where the identity of their team is a guy that is injured most of the time and honestly was over hyped... They now can forge a team identity around multiple players defensively and offensively.
I read the Giants had final editing say, so I guess they're ok with whatever is in it.
When healthy, he is a threat but he'll give you 5-6 productive games. Overrated, but he should get a boost in stats with the Eagles for sure.
Saquan has played more games then D'Andre Swift and Swift had ZERO issues staying healthy in Philly.... Everyone knows playing 9 games in NY is guaranteed injury. Thomas has missed games,Jones missed games,Kayvon has missed games, McKinney has missed games,Slayton has missed games.... See the pattern I'm getting st
He isn’t the only person you gotta worry about in Philly.. in New York you’re only concern was stopping him, I mean teams were literally daring Jones to throw the ball
The fact the GM blamed the Oline for daniel jones but then say saquon needs to be better
Giants fan here. I pray Saquan gets his and torches us every time we play. Never should let this man go for a 2nd maybe 3rd string qb
Titans identity for years lol
Incompetence all away around. Giants front office shows why they are losing. & the fact the analyst don't point out the fact that Barkley left a losing organization who used the QB salary not to pay a RB to go to a winning org that pays their QB more. Point out the incompetence of the Giants front office specifically Joe Schoen who drafted Daniel Jones
Joe schoen didn't draft jones it was Dave Gettleman but Schoen is a idiot for giving him that new contract for 40 mil
Showing that much fumbles from Saquon is disrespectfull 💀
@@danielxcha because that's what that African fella did 🤦🚬
@@goodnightmunchienigga what ?,
@@goodnightmunchieHe had 2 fumbles all last year🤡💀🤦
@@goodnightmunchie2 fumbles in 2023, 6 fumbles in 6 seasons..... You sound dyslexic AF bro
@@Cali-Green-Birds96
He was also under 1k rushing yards last year so 💁♂️
They shouldnt of paid jones that money he's a back up qb at best...whoever made that decision should lose their job
Based on an interview I watched last week with the director of hard knocks the team gets to watch the video before it’s released and if there’s something the team doesn’t want in there then it’s removed. Giants shouldn’t be concerned with anything coming out because they approved it lol
Sequon carried the Giants when he played- as a Running Back...
OBJ carried the Giants WAYYY better then Saquon ever did. OBJ made our offense decent & he was our only threat, Saquon made our offense still bottom 5
@@brandonmoyd2942OBJ was catching passes from a Hall of Fame QB. Saquan was running behind the worse Oline in the league.... It's also easier to stack the box against a RB then to double cover a WR.... Learn football
@@brandonmoyd2942 An Elite Back makes it even easier for an Elite Wr. Football 101
This is the same kid who can’t comprehend🤦🏾♂️ same kid who calls Eli trash then calls him a HOF QB💀
Eli stats before OBJ : 69 rating, 18 TD 27 INT
Eli stats after OBJ : 92 rating 30 TD 14 INT
If you don’t know nothing about NYG keep your mouth shut kids
I love teaching Football to casual kids who know nothing about NYG🤣
NYG ranked 5th in rush yards BEFORE CONTACT per carry 2019-2022 and BUF ranked 4th
Yards per carry:
Devin Singletary (4.5), Saquon Barkley (4.3)
Yards after contact per carry:
Singletary (3), Barkley (3)
Missed tackles forced per carry:
Singletary (0.2), Barkley (0.15)
Explosive run play rate:
Singletary (12.4%), Barkley (10.5%)
Those stats above have nothing to do with OL, only the player. But of course yall can’t comprehend LMAO
I like how they showed 3 bad plays with Barkley 😂😂
Is your biggest issue was your offensive line, why didn’t you draft an offensive lineman with your number one pick or why didn’t you search for top free agents on the office line during free agency?
Injuries kept the OLine from being synchronized.
peep shordy in the back of the thumbnail 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Just saw Mike t on hard knocks jets with him and Rex Ryan talking about eating 3 bags of pretzels m&ms
DONT DRAFT QB’s OUT OF DUKE 😂.
Eagles are better
Chiefs are better 😢
Go Birds!
@@55PRP55 the African nightmare is overrated 🧐🚬
Win a super bowl.
@@50santana13They have won a SB🤦
It’s amazing people say Barkley was not good because the line was trash, but can’t say jones wasn’t good because of that same line.
Daniel Jones has more fumbles and Ints then he has TDs.... Your Oline don't decide where your QB throws to and its not their fault he loves to throw to the defense more then his receivers
That is nothing but utter disrespect to the RB position as a whole. Saquon was the best part of that offense and they couldn't help him. It has been proven that a good run game can help a QB be successful in the pass game and the NFL seems to forget that point!
Lamar, Josh, and Patrick would have the giant in the playoffs with their roster. Daniel jones ain’t that guy, y’all thought he was an off brand Eli and Peyton . 😂
And the fact that dude is seriously comparing Daniel Jones to Pat Mahomes 🤣🤣🤣
I have no problem seeing Schoen calling out the O line, because if the O line players aren't ashamed of their play last season and deserve's a criticism and changes were warranted by their play!
Daniel jones in the ski mask hall of fame 🐐
The problem with Schoen's thinking is that Jone's is not a $40 mil QB. Closer to $4 mil.
If the gm with the new York giants it's gone by thanksgiving then they got more issues in the front office that's not talked about enough!!
The bottom line is the Giants will be at the bottom again this year. Daniel Jones is a C quarterback at best. Although, I don't blame Jones for taking advantage of stupidity😅.
Just one question, if you can't win with 3 practice players on the O line, why are they even on the team?
Honestly, it seems like some of the most productive guys on the field, keep getting let go. I thought you want to build with the guys who are playing well.
I don’t see either of his comments as “disrespectful”. He said they aren’t paying Daniel Jones all that money to hand off to a $20 mil RB. Emphasis is on Jones, and how he needs to earn the contract, not Barkley. Say what you want about ‘next man up”, no one’s feeling confident with 3 practice squad guys playing in one unit. That isn’t “disrespect” it’s reality
Didn’t Mr. DeVito win the same amount of games Daniel Jones won last season with the same squad. She was paid league minimum compared to a third string quarterback getting paid $40 million and you’re saying the running back was the problem?
Saquon was the only weapon that scared teams on the Giants.
Letting Saquan walk was a big mistake; their was; no offers, no negotiations, nothing, a top 10 RB; replaced by Devin Singletary, he doesn't even rank; in the top 25; major step backwards.
I don’t get why GMs aren’t evolving with Free Agency. Build both trenches, get good skill players on both sides and every free agent QB will already be looking to go there thinking they’re the missing piece. Some fans may not like the building process but it’s the best way in these times. Ask the cowboys they buy, buy, buy and end up done in the playoffs.
This is how the front office takes no accountability
Too much of that conversation was about what other teams needed. They focused on saving money and not doing what it takes to win. They let the fans down.
I love Barkley, I am thrilled he got his second bag...good on him. I'm also thrilled the Giants weren't the team that paid him. The team needs so much, they neither deserve nor can afford a top paid RB.
Joe Schoen looked like he has a personal issue with Saquon Barkley. 40 million dollar QB handing off to a 12 million dollar RB? What kind of statement was that? He sounds like he has a personal grudge against SB putting his personal priority over the TEAM.
Jones should’ve never been drafted…and someone need to be fired for it especially if saquon gets a ring before the ny does; 40M down the drain
So we blame the Running Back for their team losing is crazy 😂😂😂😂
He should be offended, they’re saying they picked DJ over him and referred to him as just a “12 mil back” instead of the face of your poverty franchise for the last 5 years
He should be mad, and the idea he got paid (barely) means he can’t complain and shows how dumb theses shows are
This is stupid on all levels 🤣
Barkley was a problem. The fact that you think you can lean on a runningback instead of forcing the qb to make plays is the problem.
I remember arguing with Giants fans how DJ sucked and they should not have signed him. They argued to death that he led them to the playoffs and was a good qb
They paid DJ who is just as injury prone and had 0 All Pros and 0 Pro Bowls. They should of kept Saquon and gave Daniel Jones a prove it contract.
But Saquon WAS the VaGiants offense. Who gonna carry them to 5 wins, Danny Dimes 😂😂
I'm not so sure about Joe Schoen being a good GM. Look at some of the moves he has made: signing Daniel Jones big contract, letting Saquon go for nothing, Evan Neal is a bust, trading for a Darren Waller who retired. Schoen will be heading into a 3rd year and the Giants are going backwards not forwards. Granted Jones got hurt, but a few team lost starting QB and did not collapse.
That waller trade was a low risk high reward situation. Did you forget everybody else who schoen drafted? Evan neal hasn’t lived up to anything yet but what about everybody else he drafted. $40mil a year is top 15 money so idk why you’re complaining
@@Jeremy-vp3yr What type of team is he building, what is the team's identity? Low risk high rewards?
@@johnj2809 talking specifically that waller trade. He’s trying to build a pass heavy offense because thats what successful in the league. A good o line and receivers is the key to success in the league rn
Giants f'd up...get ready for years of ineptitude and Tommy Devito "comebacks"
Lmao if the offensive line was such a big problem, how did tyrod Taylor seem to function behind it!
How many games he win?
EVERYBODY are saying it's the Player's that are terrible.
NOBODY is addressing the Coaching Staff!
Coaching MATTERS, doesn't matter if it's little league or Professional, Coaching matters!
It's not ALL on the Player's, those coaches should get some of the blame as well.
That goes for EVERYONE, not just in Sports, in Life in general!
For his sake Jones better have a good year or he should be fired if you ask me
As a businessman they were not wrong...
Imagine the Giants kept Barkley and Odell ? And found them a decent QB. This front office is terrible
I don't get it ... Saquon Barley had 1300 yards in 2022... A J Brown had 1400 yards in 2022 but A.J had a 25 million dollars contract.... How is not paying a RB that puts up similar yards not worth it...
Because on average their careers are shorter and their primes tend to be early and short as well. They take a ton of hits. But Saquan has been good. That’s why Roseman paid him. He called Saquan a weapon because he will touch the ball 300 times this year. I get the devaluing of the RB but certain ones are more than just running. Back: and Saquan is a runner, receiver and a blocker
Because a WR can be effictive well within to their mid 30s while a RB is practically done late 20s, also cap for a RB is like 13 mil whole a WR is like 25
So you paying him $40mil to throw incomplete passes
Their level of analysis and understanding of building a team sound like that of high school freshmen
Last time AJ Brown recruited someone like Julio Jones it fell all apart. Every time he sticks up for a player it’s a guarantee that everything will fall apart. We will see.
I don't know any of the speakers on this video, but the second from the right obviously grew up in the participation trophy error. This isn't just a game it's a business. It's an honest assessment of how bad the offensive line was that they are paid to do. He also pointed out the fact that they didn't have chemistry which isn't a slight on them, but a FACT that they are all new playing together. The offensive line was and has been horrible for 6+ years, even the year the Giants went to the playoffs. Daniel made that run happen!
Dumpster fire still burning strong in NY
We have the D team today.
I respect Mike T. for even getting out there and trying to catch the ball. As a player I'd think it's cool. Also, why is being honest about a bad O-line a bad thing???
Jones should’ve never been drafted
“We’d rather our 40 MILLION dollar QB has LESS support.”
A lot of pressure on Jones who played horrifically last I remember
F them cameras. What did he say that was wrong. The offensive line was awful
Well he bout to ball out with us
They DO need to fix that O-Line though
I'm sure Aiyuk is loved in that locker room, and him not getting a good deal is a bad sign for veterans there, if it is a long term thing it could potentially cause riffs in the locker room, could be a lowkey sign of the ending of Shanahan era in San Fran (all speculation of course)
Why on earth did the Giants allow themselves to be on Hard Knocks?!
who gives af if schoen offends the o line, they are grown men, they for sure aware of how bad they played and they probably criticize themselves even more than schown did
In their Superbowl loss to Tampa there was only one starter on the Oline and Mahomes still made it to the Superbowl he did lose it though.
I have one question is any of these guys talking football actually "him" with pads on? if not I find it comical that they think their smart enough to understand what's disrespectful to a superstar running back
Giants management is one of the worst I've ever seen! They want to win on a budget, and that not a thing in sports. They drafted a QB that should have never been drafted, and then they have the option to get rid of Jones and instead let Barkley go and then overpay a 3rd string QB at best. It's just a landslide of horrible decisions.
They weren’t taking talent, they were taking money in a hard cap league! Simple math
MHJ should have been a Patriot, but the Kraft family wanted Maye.
Giants had full editorial control of the show. Joe let these stay in the episode he stands behind everything you hearing.
Anytime they handed the ball of to the 12m dollar back he got them at least to the 60 yard line just for jones to start trying to get yards and give the ball back
This is Giants killing 2 birds with one stone. Rid of Barkley who underperformed and was injured. While forcing Jones to prove himself or he's gone after the year
Funny how they only played his lowlights but none of his highlights like he’s not a top tier running back in the league
Saquon should’ve been our Franchise player but nah we too busy depending on D Jones which failed so bad. Frustrated Giants Fan and Saquon Supporter💯