A Never Heard Before Gangland Story. A Enforcer For the 14k UK Chinese Triads Gang to Finding Islam
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Richard/Musa who’s father is Chinese and Mother Vietnamese came to the U.K to escape poverty only to be confronted with racism and discrimination which led to him being attacked by older racist thugs , in time Richard joined the UK branch of the Chinese Triads the 14k Gang. Musa tells Kickinupdust his journey from the Chinese Triads To Islam
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Hitz you show a good example of podcasts by not interrupting the guests and allowing them to express themselves
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Listening to the whole podcast has also helped me in my darkness, needed something to watch, it’s hard talking about our real life mental state, keeping everything inside, something troubling me for months, this video has helped me to re-think myself over my own issues; respect and love brother, thank you for sharing your journey and advice.
Well said
Through my suffering and pain I went through I'm glad that it can help you and others it wasn't easy to talk about it but I'm glad that I've done it I'm very happy that its had a positive impact on your life and I hope it can help others. I have to give all credit to my lord Allah SWT for taking me through this journey subhanallah
Hitz always getting the real road men online 👊 dont think ive ever seen a triad on a uk pod
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That’s true
@@munkyboy2k it’s more that his lived that life, so the podcast is authentic. Getting former roadman isn’t the hard part, it’s more why is this guy chatting to them that people need to respect
Go to any of the bigger clubs and bars in Manchester (Sankey's is where I saw them, now closed I think) 7 Chinese guys covered in tattoos with their shirts off, stood in a circle snorting coke off each other's arms with a hareem of young girls half naked. Bouncers clearly see whats going on but, do nothing and let them be lol.
Triads are the smartest gang in the world. If you know real ones, they make the most money... they're the most dangerous when needed to be... they stick together... and they stay low key for the most part. Nobody f**ks wit them
you can tell hitz puts real thought into his guests big up
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You can tell this guy has been through a lot. A lot of trauma in he's voice. May God shed light on he's soul.
It's a south london accent, we all talk like this
You all have trauma just look at the news
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 trust but it sad when your trauma makes you want to crash out. This guy is lucky he's alive or not doing life 🙏
After watching this if I ever I get disrespected in a Chinese restaurant or take away I will just the L and keep it moving. 😅😅.
Vietnamese too 😂
@@yawgreymills1587any oriental Asian be careful
@@yawgreymills1587 the viets are too crazy😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bro exactly just let these guys do what they want they leave u alone if you leave them alone its simple.
Absolutely! They're built differently, I heard a local story where someone tried to jack a triad bando and got their hands chopped off
Ive been waiting for an interview like this for years. 👏🏾
Assalamu alakium Thank you to all the brothers and sisters for your kind words may Allah guide us all into the light and help us go through the test and make it easy for all of us subhanallah
May Allah keep you steadfast, and give you peace and contentment. Very interesting story you told, may allah forgive us all for our mistakes.
Allah bless you brother, welcome to the family, like your energy, just started watching 5 mins in...
Love you brother
Wa alaikum salaam. Ameen ya rabb.
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Came back to this channel after a little while. Great pod Hitz, interviewing skills have developed massively bro
Obviously can’t glorify the violence but you have to admit triads level of organisation is just different. They literally had a business organisation that involved crime. It’s refreshing to see someone so honest and humble.
There not active
@@GetitAllback-k9ghahahahaha.. the stay low key. Uncle Benny was untouchable. The boys who took his spot are intelligent business men, but also untouchable. You must live in a white neighborhood
@@GetitAllback-k9g give it a rest mate
It's called organised crime 😂
@@GetitAllback-k9g maybe they weren't active in your all girls private school
The 14K in New Cross and Deptford (Shades Snooker Club) were'nt to play with,But they was so humble and respectful
Love to our brother Musa/Richard, may Allah bless him.. great story and you can tell he is a genuine brother 👊🏼
Ameen
Allah😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂No such thing
@@Terminate-y3v you’ll find out when you die don’t worry
@user-ju1fe4ze3m If only you knew, how many like you made that claim, yet became Muslim later in life. I pray Allah guides you like the others were guided.
@@Terminate-y3v munafeekin
Finally the Triads!!!!! No one discusses these guys!
@@shafserious2805 we are very guarded with information you won't find many especially chinese members who will speak on affairs amongst the community.
They are organised and not to be played with
Hardly. This guy sounds more like a just a foot soldier, one of many during that time. They need to get the well known ones on the pod
@@Jameslooks ok mate.
@@shafserious2805 he could be right, I have a Vietnamese friend who is an ex 14k footsoldier and they treated him like shit for being Viet.
One thing bout the Vietnamese they don’t chat shit, so many “street guys” would’ve claimed they did this made this, kept it simple said he was used a soldier had heart and talked how it’s all bs!
He kept it 💯
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Deep. Growing up in London on the 80s and 90s we all knew the Triad gangs were not to be messed with. But the power in your story is the rejection of what that life represents and your journey to be a good human being. Mashallah.
They’re still operating strongly apparently, they’re quite secretive tho.
I used to work with triads in 2012 and the main thing I learnt was, they always honour their debt.
Met couple chinease fellas in prison. From Manchester .
Few years later i watched a documentry on bbc and the fella was on tv!
He had a likeness to Mr. Miyagi. He was super cool dude quite old. His son worked for bbc in China.
He was in for allegedly running brothels up north.
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What a gem of a man. Respect to both
Listend to dis man speak on d podcast and he had me glued to it.and dis kid is far from an angel
Never thought I'd hear about Alan on a podcast, I've heard stories in the past how he was a top G in Birmingham! was before my time but thanks for this - god bless brother!
This was a good watch! Respect to both of you brothers. deep episode.
This is great - podcast is going from strength to strength
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Nice pod cast hitz, a good insight to the Chinese setup. Musa sounds like top geezer, may Allah guide us all
Salaam alaykum! Inshallah I need to meet this brother one day because we are the same, I’m Viet, from south London Stockwell… my family is gang up in 14k and SW still right now… I’ve converted to Islam and your story is just like mine brother. Please dm and get in touch! We need to meet
Walikum salaam Aki I lived in Stockwell and Brixton and know a lot of brothers from South, I will let you know when I'm back in South and maybe meet up in Lewisham masjid as I will be doing another podcast with master Wong ex 14k member very good brother alhamdulilah pm me your number and I will give you a call insha'Allah
@@richardd2568 Salamu Alaykum Muse, Do you know Van from Woolwich/Kidbrooke?
@@IfatMedia-t1tI know chuiy and other Woolwich boys and a few kidbrooke lot but I don't want to put names on here I probably know him by face, it could of been so much better if we didn't fight each other we formed gangs to protect ourselves from racist thugs and thenwe became our own problems I wish it could of been the other way around, after the years of fighting with deptford I actually got on with them they were good brothers same as most other gangs we had problems with, it doesn't matter what gang your in I have love for them all as we all went through the same pain
@richardd2568 Salam brother musa, has any of your other family members converted? May Allah help you and your family with any difficulty and keep you healthy Ameen
Sorry for the late reply as I can't read or write and have to wait for a family member to help me alhamdulilah
@richardd2568 brother I know for a fact your story has just begun, keep doing podcasts with brothers like Hitz and Bridging the gap to get your story told.
May Allah bless you 🤲🏾☪️
@@tufftalkspodcast7131thank you for the kind words my brother the most important thing is to get the young ones out of that kind of life and move forward and come back home to Islam
@richardd2568 absolutely my brother and if I can help you achieve this goal in anyway then I'm on board ok.
Asalaam alaykum brother Musa.thank you for sharing your story my brother
Love my G ❤💪🏼💎💯
I remember well 90s London Chinatown- 14k and WooSingWoo etc. A lot of Filipinos, kids wearing baggy trousers with steel rings down the side…
Lol, they were called slot machine trousers. We all wore them 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Trocodaro days lol
This guy needs to make a movie about his life
This was hard to listen to.
I've Chinese friends my niece and nephew have a black father my sister and I are white.
I've always taken people for who they are not their skin or religion.
I'd be fkn furious if someone treated people I know like that. I'd be out to make an example of them.
I've had a sheltered life to not have seen that level of racism
So manny trolls out there in this world, and keyboard warriors, just keep up the good work brother, na watch them😊❤
From where you came from and what you’ve been through to where you are now not only your one tough cookie you’re truly inspirational big up yourself Richard may Allah/God continue to bless you 🙏🏾👊🏾🫶🏾
Thank you for the kind words Aki I feel like it's my duty to share my story to help the brothers that are going through what I went through to make the change to worship Allah SWT and not the gang life and stop killing eachother as that is one of the biggest sins in Islam subhanallah 🤲
Great podcast I enjoyed the interview
Hitz never misses always serious stuff 🤝🏻
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Great pod...best one I've seen..great story...and a great successstory ❤🏴.
Subhanallah wat a blessed brother may Allah guide us all 🤲🏼
😮 Great interview, respect to both of you...
I remember Trocadero and games room in Elephant & Castle used to be rife with triads and their baggy trousers 😂
So true 😂
Segaaaa
Mad times … miss my star and zip trousers …. Used to wear them with raggas to be different while dem man wore Cat boots with toecaps …. School uniform days ..
Remember elephant & castle arcade room too nuff triads in the place.
Yes Hitz with another banger
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ma’shaallah brother. Remember Shaytan will test you more now that you are a muslim but remain firm in your deen.
Evening Gentlemen, just to say that I come across your post and was a interested watch, in the 1980s i used to work near China town in London and would walk through, it was just normal place people would be shopping and working day and night, only as years passed by that I found out about the Gangs, Gambling etc, it seems that if you were invited in by someone, you differently couldn't just walk into a club by yourself, I'm glad you have found peace now Richard
Thanks brother coming home to Islam was the best thing that has happened to me subhanallah I hope this can help others and guide them home to Islam there is no religion out there in my heart that could ever change me but Islam has changed me as it's the one true religion and Allah SWT is the one true God and prophet Muhammad may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him was our last prophet now as a Muslim I feel more of a human being than ever alhamdulilah 🤲❤
@@richardd2568 afternoon Richard, so glad you have found peace now. Sue
Very good interview one of the best I’ve seen 👍👍
hitz no idea who you are personally but i followed your channel for a few years and want you to know you do this podcast thing really well bro. keep it up
Oh, he's Muslim too, mashallah
Be careful how you treat other people, especially children. The racist man and the bent copper he came across at 12 years old changed the entire trajectory of this man's life
💯 brother it made me lost faith in the system and it still hasn't changed but the beautiful thing is that it shows the world what shade of colour skin we are we can still show love to one another just the government and the government slaves just behave and act like racist thugs but their both are never gonna enjoy life with their old mindset big respect to you brother❤
Very insightful. Well done, Dad !
Most people in the comments weren’t even born when SW and 14K were beefing in London
Real talk my brother there is a lot of trolls and haters but our haters are our biggest fans as they wanna be us but they cannot be us as god only created one of everyone but they would never say any bad to our face
@richardd2568respect brother for telling this story your a warrior may Allah help you with anything your having trouble with and increase your imaam
May Allah bless both Hitz and brother Musa ✊👊
So much trauma in our communities man only God can truly save us🤲🏾
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You have no idea. I was with them in nz. Most ppl dont even know they exist, but they are HEAVY in fhe streets
Hard
Heavy when I lived in Boston. Heavy when I lived in Toronto. Heaviest now that I am living in Vancouver.
They're quiet and focused in their goal... but dangerous af
Who remember Trocadero days
I remember it very clearly fighting security and rival gangs every Sunday and also late night cinema at the Odeon and free tickets from uncle bear good old days my brother
Slot machine trousers!!!!
Big fights on live TV 😂 outside the nickelodeon studio.
The namco days
yeah. i remember peckham man coming down in groups of 20 to 30 and just robbing everyone
It’s good seeing brothers like this and hearing their stories and how Allah guided them🙏 may Allah SWT bless this brother and his family Ameen
33:45 this hit hard
Bro I got 3 iPhones and 1 laptop & 1 iPad I’m subscribed on all 😂😂💯💯💯 ALLWAYS CERTIFIED PEOPLE ON THIS PODCAST NO SILLY GAMES LIKE OTHER PODCASTS 💯
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Both are top g’s. Hits and this bro 👊🏽
Very nice listening to this.
He got attacked n that drove his time line to where he was now he is where he is , life is crazy y’all where u start ain’t where u end
banging episode always had respect for my south east asian brothers good to see them accept islam good people good culture respect.
It's all made you the person you are today, alhamdulillah
thank you for the kind words brother
🤍🖤Subhanallah 🤎💛
Wow mad story ma sha Allah good to see brother turn to Islam and be free and happy🤲💯
Triads are well organised. They are not like the 80-90s. Nowadays, they mellowed down. They have expanded into other businesses, though. From restaurants, Karaokes, bubble tea shops and massage parlours to air bnb etc.
The triads are the least talked about on the news by far
Man you see this brother been through serious trauma, may Allah bless him. Him and his family. Also the host may Allah bless him too for bringing in guys who are telling us serious gem.
These stories remind me of my days but its therapy to hear how many people like me have made it from the gutter and they are doing well mashallah
This bruva sounds like one of the realist I’ve heard on podcast.
You nerds will call anyone the realist if they come on a podcast and talk stuff like this🤣🤦🏽♂️
@GazerBeam-1why you hating for
Cmon, hitz always coming with the bangers 💯
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May Allah bless you my brother Musa and keep you steadfast. Aameen.
South london was a crazy place when the Triads were about, Rolling with a kitchen Choppers was a standard. Using it was even more so
For realz. Elephant & Castle was always 14K kicking off with SW
@@infoinfo-k7f well I mean they’re still about, just don’t go screaming in your face about it. Lots just doing business these days.
This dude is solid. Idgaf hes da real deal
Thank you brother Islam is the most beautiful religion ever subhanallah
It’s different in different countries, obviously both the WSW and 14k who have been rivals for many years are on an international scale, but in UK, they’re not so in your face anymore and many have gone in to businesses. To lots of extent, 14k members and wsw members can be friends these days. He was very right,fighters are fighters and then there are the one who are set aside who make the money. I had a good friend who was a triad boss who would only ever recruit the ‘smart guys’ who never got involved in violence and consisted of people like doctorates, lawyers, rich kids, bankers etc etc who enjoyed making money and living the triad life to an extent. They were always respected, hardly ordered about but they knew how to make money.
Best interview you’ve done hitz big up
This made my eyes water, i have one of my best childhood friends who's Vietnamese...may Allah aw guide him to islam
Assalamu alakium hopefully this can shed some light on him and move his life forward to Islam alhamdulilah
Yoo this be good. I was locked 2005 in stockton on tees. There was a wing of Vietnamese kids all in for a big drug bust in north east. Was about 10 in jail. Used link em play 5 aside they was decent 😂
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Mashallah this was a good listen may Allah keep this brother strong and al of us ameen❤
Richard / Musa taught me at the age of 15 that HSBC back was corrupt and run by Chinese triads.
You can learn a lot from him.
He taught me how to be street wise.
Thank sister ❤
Yo my brother u done no love for the shout out real recognize real loyalty can't be bought can't be sold most precious thing , snakes will always be snakes good people don't lose people people lose them
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Assalamu alakium my brother shimmy you are a true soldier and a loyal brother may Allah guide you and make this test easy for you alhamdulilah
YO SHIMMY WE DO ANYTHING FOR U WE KNOW THE DIRTTY SNAKE U LET IN UR LYF 🤬🤬
btw in the video he said his mums chinese and his dads viet dk if the error is in the description or he misspoke bc it seemed like the interviewer thought it was the other way round
West London had 14K and WSW (WooSingWoo) Triads. Piccadilly Circus Namco Wonderpark and Trocadero arcade, Chinatown, Soho days...
They used to recruit members outside schools and collages you would put £3.60p into a red envelope with your name and address (3.60 for the 36 triad oaths you would have to read and learn) and give it to the gangs leader that was called Di-Low (Big Brother) 🧧 and then he was added to ‘the list’ basically back up men/foot soldier Si-Lows (little brothers).
They used to have burn marks on there arms from burning lighter marks (triad games). Dyed hair, baggy pants.
One bro wanted to join so he was blindfolded with his top off (bare chest) and someone would slice him on his body to mark him in for life. But they didn't slice him they just wanted to see if he would do it (he did).
There was a fake triad gang called Nine Trey Gangsters in Grove sides (Latimer road).
These gangs rolled with chopper knives 🔪
Mess with one, they would bring down 30 triads easily and they would just stand there for over an hour sometimes lol and you would just see more coming down which was called a ‘show of force’. Sometimes they didn't even fight, they just did the ‘show of force’ and that would be enough to prove a point.
These times was 1990s and was dead by 2000s.
When that headteacher got killed in West London police went hard on these gangs. Google it.
They used to get free food at certain Chinese restaurants in Chinatown.
- Chindamo Learco (Google him)
Needs a movie of his life
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Trocadero Piccadilly Circus, was a mad ting early mid 90's wsw vs 14k had mad battles in china town, triads had them arcades on lock 😂
Peckham use to give them a run for there money at times
@@lifeisblessed4802Pecknaam is a joke 😂
Mad times. Wonderpark was packed on Sundays
The good old days lol. Good memories 😂
Dance dance revolution 😂
50:20 Respect 👊...Said that with his chest deffo ment that nice touch...cherrs lads 👍
💯Top boy 👏🏻 fantastic interview 👏🏻
Unique story. Madness.
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Very good video enjoyed it. Keep up the good work 👊🏼
MashaAllah TabrakAllah so proud of this brother, may Allah ease you my bro, keep firm and dedicated, learn a lot and enjoy the blessings of Allah. ❤️
You should really hunt down the real
Active 14k ones, the ones that were actively beefing SW vvwhen all the restaurants were getting smashed in Chinatown.
People like Tango, Big Ben, John Lu, Michael Kong, Bighead,SilverFox Ping. Those mofos were active during the mid 90s and early 2000s.
The war between SW raged for years before it fizzled out. White Robert , Black Dragon, Snake brothers, little Fei, all of them SW boys beefed hard with the 14 lot.
Also checked out a high ranking member called Coffee who was 14k but got killed by his own group because he was being too rowdy. You can search 1999 Colchester murder triads.
The main dragon head of 14k in Europe and London is Cowshit. They own most of the Chinatown restaurants and some others in Colindale and Bayswater.
Some of the other main bosses in 14k London
PK
LG
Tiger
Would be good to see someone actually do a podcast on this
Bringing back memories with these names.
Everyone used to Party at hippodrome
And Equinox!
Memories....
For real, you should get rid of those names, too much information there.
Great story Musa seems like a great dude ❤💪🏼💎💯🫡❤️
55:42 give me my hand back bro 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 thats hilarious
Ngl the Triad gang sounds dead. Mans getting £10 a week in a good day to put in work 😂😂
Stay free people
Lived in the same block with this brother..top guy..genuine decent man
Respect🎉
Assalamu alakium I have to thank Allah SWT for helping me become a better person subhanallah 🤲
Alhamdulillah brother..
Thank you
These guys quietly go about there business.. These days people think there gangsters and want to be known, it's all about image, image gets you in prison.
Good interview .
This feller is my neighbour. Win interview my bro. See you when i see you insha Allah.
The camden bengalis bk in the day had connections with the triads like the drummond street boys
Is it. What's the story to that? I'm a Bengali british born & I hear before my time, Bengali's & East Asians was running things in East End & up North.
Yes!!!! Big up Rex, Ahmed, Raffa and Juti. Hope you guys are doing well.
@McSliksOnline in poplar, mile end and tower hamlets had some bengali tigers and they were no joke they were affiliated with triads from Kings Cross and Camden especially the Filipino lot who hanged at Rowans snooker club and play2win.
@@tufftalkspodcast7131Camden has loads of Bengalis; Drummond st in Euston and Cromer st I Kings Cross had bengali gangs, closely affiliated with triads given the close proximity. These Bengalis used to get into wars with the Wasteland London guys. Drummond st vs Brick Lane was a long lasted feud
Musa so glad you have been guided towards Imaan. 🤲
This helped me
Alhamdulilah 🤲
respect to brother MuSa may Allah swt keep him steadfast n blessed . Big up hitz for the amazing podcast . My first racism encounter again was similar to this brother few skinheads playing football in park shit happened . So I always associate football to racism . Never can trust to be around whites n football . Take kids to stadiums never Ptsd.Alhamduliliah and I can handle thing . Sad
Brilliant podcast. Great to find your show. Is the pod on iTunes?
thanks for sharing this , God bless
Alhamdulilah..very happy for him 🤲🏼
Allhumdulilla
Asalaamwalaikum big up both brother musa and hits. Allah bless you both with goodness. And keep you firm upon Islam
Mashallah what a beautiful brother! 🤲🏼
Allhumdulilla