I'm a pilot for a regional US airline; the schedules are brutal. We're typically on duty anywhere from 10-14 hours a day. Sometimes without any breaks, sometimes with 3-4 hour sits at airport with nowhere to relax. Flying 3 - 5 legs per day, and only getting the legal minimum rest, 10 hours, every night. Which also includes getting to / from the hotel, and doesn't always guarantee 8 hours of rest if you include getting to sleep and waking up in the morning. Things get a lot better at the legacies, but at regionals we are being absolutely brutalized by our schedules every month. Flying 90+ hours a month, and only getting 12 or less days at home per month. Airlines have somehow managed to take one of the best jobs and turn it into a crushing, hopeless experience.
@@iBreakAnkles4Fun It might be slightly different in Europe, but the legal minimum is just 10 hours for us in the States, not contingent on how long you were on duty.
@@sgtkasi That sucks bro, here at least in theory the rest period when at home base is 12h minimum or at least as long as the previous shift, 10h when away from home base or as long as the previous shift. The airlines probably break those rules though becuase Ryanair pilots always complain that theyre working 16h shifts but we're taught 13h is max except for unforeseen circumstanes, then it's 15h. Still rather that then study ATPL, the EASA ATPL is a huge bitch.
Havent the FAA learned anything from the horrific aircraft accident in Buffalo wich was caused by pilot fatigue i dont care if consumers have to pay more for tickets if pilots gets the rest and sleep they need before flying. A healthy well rested pilot is worth paying extra for.
@@JohnDoe-pz5flstatistics don't mean anything if flight corporations are destroying all the policies that created the environment that garnered such statistics. You might as well read a manual to a buttplug because it'll be equally as meaningful.
@@Dankonen what are you on about? If those statistics are kept up to date they will still be relevant to reassure yourself whether to fly or not. Even if it means you're more at risk of dying. Also, nobody cares about your butt plugs, bud. It's a bad analogy. No need to project.
I flew during war it was peace of cake with french air force during Sarajevo war, Somalia war, Lybia war, Eritrean war, been shot, flew like hell but compare with Flying for Commercial airline in Europe, this was hell, my company fired french pilots specifically , I have been insulted, threatened, have been harassed, HR had been lying cobsrantly, unloyal with you constantly, no pension very small bonus, flying business flights more than 450 hours per year, small bonus of 1000 euros! Insulting was the rule, during 16 years Kidding and no social security during years and years. Poor food during duty and it was never enough....
That is so sad to hear. The toxic short term profit MBA culture is destroying ndustry after industry. And aviation used to be a field that young people enter out of passion and fascination.
This really puts EASA to shame and emphasises their accountability. Oh, the guts to speak of "old-fashioned rules"!Aviation has become safer by learning from incidents and accidents and incidents - based on just culture - so let's protect that above all else.
Easa is a corrupted organisation in the hand of lobbies, for instance they implemented part 66 license, human factor,ewis certs for maintenance personnel only to insure constant Revenu for aviation schools .. not to improve safety..
I would really like to hear @MentourPilot his opinion about this... Unfortunately, from my country (Poland) Wizzair and Ryanair have effectively cornered the market, with Wizzair being marginally better from the passenger side. I'd really love our government to use these sort of reports to crack down on airlines not offering Umowa o Pracy to their pilots (garbage contracts are unfortunately still very common here) with the additional benefit that this could actually improve the position of LOT and hopefully pave the way for airlines like Air Baltic or Norwegian who are low-cost but do play by the rules to start service to my home airport (GDN) But I'm scared that nothing will change on a European level until either Ryanair or Wizzair have a major accident with considerable loss of life before anything will happen. It happened like that in the US as well, where it took a few major air crashes before they started taking things as pilot fatigue and toxic work environments more serious.
Its sadly not only a problem in aviation, also in the maritime sector we still face these issues with port stays becoming shorter and shorter and the high standards of cargo charterers regarding cargo hold conditions can make the workload on the crew pretty harsh, however with more western companies choosing flags of convience the issue still persists even with mandetory timesheets making captains liable for extra hours but the companies most often face no fines
as far as i can tell, this corrupt and sick culture described, aplies to all the security and safety jobs i know people in. including, train transit, bus transit, police, ambulance drivers, security guards, taxi's. additionally, job security is such a risk for almost all wage jobs, that tour entire western culture is sticking its head in the mud, just to look out for its self, damn the consequenses
What a tragic lack of judgement displayed by EASA. And the absence of the Transport Commissioner is also telling for her interest in solving crew's problems 🤷♀
As a high time airline captain I have seen the progression in pressure from the companies to force us to do more and more sectors. Coupled to ridiculous turnaround times, this can only decrease the level of safety. It is still a miracle and testament to the skill and professionalism that we see so few accidents. Cheap tickets and cheap holidays are the reason for the trend! And do not forget the greed of those that run these airlines.
Not to bash the US, but if the US (epitome of capitalism) is saying this is going too far, you know you f-ed up. Although admittedly, they may have their own reason for not liking the cheap competition.
"There is a hazard, there is a potential risk… but we don't have a problem." So we'll do nothing and wait until the risk materializes? This is a board member of EASA?!! Maybe I should ask first, what ARE the qualifications necessary to become a board member?
All the pilots should come together and sign an agreement to not fly under those conditions and a comity that protects their rights should protect them against those barbaric conditions and terms. Thanks to each and every pilot that Flys us to our destinations and our loved ones .
The problem is the Unions...The UK union BALPa refused to support the Mike SImkins stating it would very hard to win against a multi billion pound airline....Dispite having to represtn himself..he won.
Problem is that as pilots, we're kind of one trick ponies in a very passion driven field. There is no shortage of candidates willing to work under these conditions, unfortunately, as long as they're just able to fly a jet. Especially in Europe where many airlines do ab-initio training programs, whose candidates are then beholden to the airline to stay lest they be saddled with the entire cost of their training for breach of contract or what have you.
Bottom line is if you work for any business that uses a low cost model the workers have to be low cost and or as productive as possible. Not a shocker.
Many thanks for the detailed investigation. Keep it top please, we need to hear more about it, consistently making it public until something inevitable happened.
This can be avoided by employing more pilots, but it seems that all companies (not just the low cost ones) would rather safe money. I used to be a cabin crew and to be honest this issue wasn't so obvious before the pandemic.
I'm sorry but having lower (meaning not being, mostly born into, exceptional richness) human being stressed out, having mental health issues or any other kind of hurt is just not a problem at all! Only once we cross the line of actually losing money, because we lost customers due to accidents and deaths happening, will we be open to start thinking and eventually maybe even talking about/spinning it.
Not hard to say bad things about Ryan Air but it carries the 3rd most passengers in the world and has never had a passenger fatality. Airlines 1, 2, and 4 can't say that.
Truck Drivers in Europe have very stringent work and rest rules enforced by Law enforcement in the individual countries. So Fatigue is officially recognised by governments as a serious safety hazard. Why not for Pilots?
Because pilots in EU are very polite ladies that never talks ,never argues ,never demand.truck drivers ARE not that kind of ladies ....they are MEN THAT RESPECT THEIR JOBS and the responsibility...pilots in EU are just fug...s
I'm a skydive pilot now. No more airlines for me. I make my own invoice, choose my clients, agree on my schedule and am accountable to my choices. At any time I can eff off, at any time I can be dismissed. Bargaining power starts when you're in a position to. Not before. Good luck being an employee in today's environment.
Bij vrachtwagenchauffeurs heb je een digitale bestuurderskaart die de rij en rusttijden registreerd. In een high tech sector bestaat dat dan niet. Bizar.
Low cost in Europe only?? Those stories about microsleeps and falling asleep in descend happened in big very non-low-cost airlines in the desert. So everywhere, same problem, same management.
Het moet eerst een keertje goed misgaan voordat mensen hier iets aan gaan doen. Het probleem hier en overal is "management" & tussenhandelaartjes, mensen die zitten de hele dag te vertellen dat andere mensen moeten werken en zelf alleen maar lopen te zoeken om tussen de wetten door zoveel mogelijk geld op te strijken voor hunzelf. Er zou overal een "management" salaris plafond moeten komen, ga zelf maar je poten uitsteken om een vliegtuig te besturen als je meer wilt verdienen.
En het gaat enkel "mis" als er een vliegtuig crasht met een hoog geplaatste politieker aan boord. Als het gaat om een vliegtuig vol "plebs" dan wordt het gewoon "een betreurenswaardig incident" zonder meer.
@zembla, your Dutch Article links to the questions the airlines are asked, which is mentioned in the article, but the English version doesn't. Even though the questions are asked in English. Took me a bit to figure that out, might be usefull fot the English speaking audience to include it in the Enlish article as well.
I once tried to do a flight from CDG to SFO in a flight sim whilst not having slept for 27 hours. Even though it was with minimal hand flying and with AUTOLAND, you feel the effects of fatigue in every part of the decision making process. Your brain is used to the common procedures and does things automatically but as soon as it comes to safety checks, weather/alternate monitoring or basically anything requiring your attention and decision making. Your brain stops thinking like “If engine fails during takeoff we’re going to do this” or “If we hit birds during approach we’re going to do this” and the sole goal in your mind becomes “Let’s land this thing and get it over with”. And I believe this is the sinister side of fatigue, we won’t be seeing it’s effects immediately in thousands of flights happening each day because commercial aviation is extremely safe in itself already thanks to modern airliners and procedures but the moment unlikely happens in such a crew like above, we’ll see similar simple mistakes as in Tenerife or Dubai.
Why do we need a EU Commissioner who is not even willing to be interviewed about such an important matter? She seems unfit for the job. Political appointee, not per definition based upon competency. Not to mention EASA. EU at its "best". What a joke.
ik ben al niet van het vliegen (ecologische voetafdruk), maar dit soort "grappen" weerhoudt mij er dus helemaal van... ik neem de auto, trein of fiets wel om ergens heen te gaan. 🤔
Ik hoop echt dat meer mensen dit kijken en meer mensen zich hier boos om maken. We willen allemaal graag veilig op vakantie, dit gaat ons allemaal aan.
The US is not a bunch of countries united so no cross border employment laws to mess with. In the US you work as an employee for the one airline and given a seniority number. That number is your whole career at the company. No independent contractors.
The world we live in moves so fast and full of interests that it is impossible to say I won't get on a plane again or the next time I do I won't go low cost. The only option is to pretend I hadn't found out because otherwise I wouldn't leave the house. The price of living on this planet today is accepting that it is unfair, unequal, destructive and inhumane. The human being turns towards his own destruction with no way to land, the landing strip is on fire and the control tower is a bank.
This is normal and part of the social-economic model we uphold. The job of pilot isn't to fly someone from A to B their job is to make their company/investors as much money as possible. Since the company is, often legally, obligated to continue to make more profit each quarter to avoid losing external funding it will have to either cut corners where possible or raise their prices. Raising prices of course will make them less competitive so they will get fewer flyers which might still make for less profit and that is now allowed by investors. The same thing happens in pretty much every branch. The quality or safety of the product, service or its employees is a distant secondary consideration that really only is considered because the potential effects a failure there might affect the profit. That this happens to be a very important product or service where safety is critical, like in a flight or in a hospital, is also secondary. It is the businesses job to run their company as lean as possible on the razors edge of what is possible and allowed all the time and if they think they can get away with it they will do it worse. It really sucks.
Exactly..however, it is the CAA and EASA who are criminally covering up the blatant criminal actions of airlines in breaching the law designed to protect passengers and crew.
I was a B 777 Commander for a five star M.E. airline ...we were " standardized " to EASA Standards , we couldn't Believe how Europeans would come up with this Nonsense ! I was single and lived in a beautiful hotel, everything set up for me. I felt Very Bad for my Married Colleagues ...didn't have time to rest . Bad , this is really Bad!
As it is said in the book Pulling Wings From Butterflies...the regulators and many airlines are playing 'Jenga' with passenger and crew safety. It is a fact ..aka Tombstone Safety.
I was a huge avgeek, I wanted to become a pilot, until I realised more and more that the working conditions are horrendous. Either from stories, or by connecting my own dots. There needs to be a union formed ASAP. A union that takes advantage of media, strikes, and the few regulations that don’t take advantage of loopholes. These things combined can make a strong union. I would prefer paying higher ticket price than flying with overworked pilots. Funny enough Ryanair was also one of the companies that was bitching about the “freedom of movement” when France had those ATC strikes. Really tells you what their ethics on working conditions are. Absolutely disgusting behaviour. They even had people singing petitions, pretending they’re protecting the passangers. Really they were protecting their finances.
These people who make " the rules " , probably sleep at home Every Night , and have all their weekends and holidays no matter what . But We Pilots , are the " Common Soldiers " Fighting at the Trenches. Heavy Jet Commander ( Ret.).
I still don't see mentions regarding the fact the crew are "not supposed" to report maintenance issues that could eventually ground the aircraft, and cancel flights.
I believe the situation will continue or even worse in the mid term future. I would say its not just to blame the airlines, but more the aviation business structure in whole... Airlines are constantly left out without a steady cash flow. This happens for many reasons, some of them is because everyone is making money in aviation sector and airlines are paying for it... Aircraft manufacturers, parts manufacturers, engineering companies, airports, handlers, maintenance, regulators, .... And what airlines has in return? One major source of income... tickets or charter/acmi contracts... My opinion, the start would be to regulate parts providers/manufacturers if the price caps (margins) can be justifiable? An example - bearing used for commercial use costs 50e, the same one with certificate manufactured under same materials and quality system... costs 1000€+ for airliner use...
I am an airline pilot for the past 20 years have flown 330 340 and now I am a Captain on the 320 for the past 20 years flew most routes. And it’s never been so unsafe ever I am willing to talk to a reporter and confirm identity
Begin your career with 500 000 € study debt. And then being treated like shit. Hellyes I love how everything is about the money even after the golden standard. The whole world becoming worthless. Lets just all comit suïcide
Solution: don't fly for Ryan Air nor Wizz air. In fact, time to withdraw their licences. A GB pilot must get paid in the UK pay taxes and soc security there. Full employment rules, no self employment. That German interviewed disgusts me. There is a hazard but no problem he says. Well, a hazard is a problem. IAATA should be dismantled and EU / US controlled.
So let's have this EASA Managers fly around the world in 4 sectors , with minimum rest , plus crossing multiple time zones and your sleeping pattern Totally messed up !
I am very disappointed/worried and angry ... safety must always be the number one priority, far above all the other things. And especially above saving money. For pilots health this is not oke and how can someone with fatigue respons well in case of emergency? Or even do the normal tasks without much bigger change of making faults. Come on!! Stop follow the money! As a passenger i would be fine to pay more money for a ticket or accept a cancelled flight because it was not possible to make a shedule with enough rest. Pilots take heavy airplanes with them, with passengers... who thought it was a good plan to push pilots over their limits!!?
@@bfg6632 thanks, I didn’t know that book. Put it on my ‘want to read list’. Not sure if this is the right moment to read. In a few months I will have some flights for a trip I am really looking forward to. I already have fear of flying and I guess after reading this book that would be more.
Met schiphol kan je hier ook iets aan doen. De regel maken dat piloten met een atypisch contract die willen landen dubbel zoveel kosten aan de luchtvaartmaatschappij. En samen werken met bv Duitsland en België
Scenario, plain crash, recovering black box & only last recorded audio is: Pilots snoring.... But always have suspected those budget airlines cheat in dangerous ways.. 😢
Ryanair are angels compared to ACMI operators. Ive flown for ACMI companies and no minimum rest, no maximum duty no social security and so on. Not to mention the pressure from management to not report fatigue as the reports are being read by the authorities. Ive regretted the fact that I chased my dream of becoming a pilot a million times
I'm a pilot in Ryanair. In the last few months I have seen in my own two eyes how we are being forced to work more hours and hours. It's a tragedy waiting to happen Ba safe and don't fly us
If employers don't want people to say anything wrong about them, they should stop giving the people a reason to do so. Also, how does @airclips select the flights they make RUclips videos of?
This video address a serious problems- but the sensational presentation, the breathlessness, the wierd voices, the mixing of issues, all contribute to undermining the effectiveness of the presentation. It’s more clickbait than serious journalism. Sadly.
The ever-deteriorating working conditions of airline crew (cockpit and cabin) as seen in the past two decades have turned one of the dreamiest work environments into a very toxic one in every way. Aero toxic at that.
The fault is clearly from pilots of each company for not having unions .regulations are working for companies. All the responsibility is from pilots accepting these regulations and not setting boundaries.
I agree this is very concerning, but the USA banning WizzAir and lecturing EASA on security when they have US airports that ask airliners to land with a visual approach at night seems a bit hypocritical, to say the least. For those who want the reference (or are curious about listening to a few minutes of ATC-pilot chitchat), the flight I'm talking about is Lufthansa 458, 17 October 2023 around 03:40 UTC, which was supposed to land in San Francisco airport (SFO) and ended up diverting to Oakland because the controllers just had them wait for ages and made them run quite low on fuel because they wouldn't give them an instrument approach.
What is wrong with doing visual approaches when there is no weather? It allows ATC to reduce separation minima, which gets more flights in and out fairly efficiently. I guess I have a bias, because I am US based, and we have a slightly different approach to our flight training. We train pilots, not "airline" pilots, so being able to navigate in both VFR and IFR conditions is a pretty important requirement in the US, especially for the airlines. I am not 100% sure on Lufthansa's FCOM, but something tells me it kind of screwed them over, because they wanted SFO to slow down operations just to accommodate them. Just so you know, in the US we always back visual approaches up with the ILS or RNAV when we do them, so this isn't really us doing something different from the guys and gals in Europe.
@@straven89 Well let's just say I find it a bit optimistic to pretend to be "visual" when there is no light. But I guess this is indeed debatable, or at least quite debated, as can be seen in the comments under said video
@@julienb5815 In the US, we don't consider it IFR (instrument rules) just because it is dark outside. We acknowledge the inherent danger in flying at night, but if it is 10 miles and clear of clouds, it is visual rules for us. Need to have low clouds and visibility to run IFR. We usually change over when the ceilings are below a certain amount or the visibility is under a certain amount (usually ceilings under 3000). I am aware that in the rest of the world nighttime is treated much differently regardless of weather conditions. The only issue with calling out US ATC is that it runs under FAA rules, which don't treat nighttime as its own separate rating. We also have a more lively aviation culture than the rest of the world. Not everyone who flies in the US flies for the airlines, or wants to. In the rest of the world, the vast majority of planes flying around are airliners, and the people who want to become pilots do so to fly for the airline. Personally, I wouldn't consider a clear night as instrument conditions. It is just a difference in cultures; nothing to debate.
@@straven89 "It is just a difference in cultures" => Well, considering that WizzAir never had a single fatality yet, you could also call their practices "just a difference in cultures"
@@julienb5815 Even the low cost carriers in the US have a better safety record than our Legacy carriers. Same thing can be said in Europe. A lot of your guys flag carriers don't have the cleanest of records either, just the low costs. It doesn't change the fact that there is a fundamental difference in philosophy between US airlines and the rest of the world's airlines. Not saying one group is better than the other; that is all opinion. To your first example of visual rules at night: a US pilot would think it is ridiculous to want to be cleared for an instrument approach when the conditions are good, but in the rest of the world it seems reasonable. A lot of newer airline pilots in the US did other types of flying before showing up to the airlines. In Europe, and most of the world, a lot of the newer pilots focus more on flying for the airlines in a crew environment. Up to you to figure out if dedicated airline courses, emphasizing working as a crew and roles, to commercial is better than learning how to fly by yourself, being the sole decision maker, flying charter, or instructing for a couple of years. Difference in cultures.
In the old days if we got sleepy we would take a nap in our 2 and 3 man crews. Or guzzle the caffeine and suck in the nicotine and stretch the legs if engaging conversation didn't work. You don't get sleepy in busy cockpits.
Dit probleem heb je bij vele vele banen ,de druk de slavernij achtig gevoel die de werknemer ervaart. Praten of klagen is baan kwijt want voor jou 100 andere
dat hangt behoorlijk van de sector waarin je werkt af... momenteel is het zo dat men in de meeste vakgebieden loopt te schreeuwen om personeel. en dan kun je als "loonslaaf" wel je mond opendoen en eisen stellen, je kunt zelfs tegen de baas zeggen "voor jou 10 anderen".
@@ingeposch8091raar he dat na die hele corona gedoe velen die in deze idioterie werkten hebven uitgecheckt. Uiteindelijk moeten de kantoorbaantjes wat minder worden of men moet technologie upgraden zsm... die allochtonen willen niet meer meedoen aan deze shitshow
This exact video is a perfect example of the “culture of fear”. I don’t even care if it’s true or not., the whole presentation, music, “horrorish” mood are here to scare people to fly on the planes, except of the KLM of course
Not only this...but diversity means competence is no longer the key selection for pilots and air traffic control in the EU. The minimum legal standards will do rather than the best from all candidates. In a complex system this will lead to tragedies.
Audit is a tool to ensure compliance, it is not for catching naughty people. The guy is confused audit with investigation. You’re not expecting to find irregularities with audit. It’s there purely to ensure compliance. How would you know people are following the rules if you don’t check them? Why would anyone follow the rules they find inconvenience, if they know no one ever comes to audit them? Hence, you need to conduct audit on regular basis. 36:08
@@jingle1161 Its not the same thing. Audit is just to ensure compliance, that’s it. It’s a normal business operation. It’s similar to check-ride for pilots. It’s the same objective to ensure that pilots are in compliance with technical proficiency and is operating according to SOP. Investigation is for finding out what actually did happened? Fir example after an audit you may find there are discrepancies, or there are sign of manipulation /fake records or allegations of wrongdoings etc
Pilots really need to unionise themselves better. There's a shortage of pilots and it's going to get worse, so there is some leverage on their side. 🤞🏼🤞🏼 There's a reason why WizzAir is called WitzAir (AKA JokeAir) in Hungarian, Váradi is like those sociopath CEOs from the nineties in Hungary who ran amok til no end because of the lack of regulations and oversight + corruption. 🤮
??? teacher???? or spelling bashing??? want to know my iq??? more than 170 but dislectic???? gtfo Netschaap, i destroid a multimiljon dollar compagy, what did you do with your languageskills????? nothing!@@glibberige
In communism the same abuses happen, but you are not even allowed to complain. False equivalence of yours to claim that mafia style systems are the consequence of capitalism, it is actually a consequence of lack of enforcement of regulations and bad laws with loopholes, any economic system can create that scenario.
capitalism what we know is a race to the bottem... look around you, in the netherlands we had socialcapitalism, mutch better system, but is almost gone now@@pedrolopes3542
How about terminal incapacitations? In pairs? They want to reduce the cabin crew to one (1) pilot only. Maybe even less... All for your safety. Statistically, 1 of 1 pilots has 50% less chance to become incapacitated than 1 of 2, but you must be certain that you have the right 1 aboard. One way or another, flying will soon become people's history and elite's privilege.
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I'm a pilot for a regional US airline; the schedules are brutal. We're typically on duty anywhere from 10-14 hours a day. Sometimes without any breaks, sometimes with 3-4 hour sits at airport with nowhere to relax. Flying 3 - 5 legs per day, and only getting the legal minimum rest, 10 hours, every night. Which also includes getting to / from the hotel, and doesn't always guarantee 8 hours of rest if you include getting to sleep and waking up in the morning.
Things get a lot better at the legacies, but at regionals we are being absolutely brutalized by our schedules every month. Flying 90+ hours a month, and only getting 12 or less days at home per month.
Airlines have somehow managed to take one of the best jobs and turn it into a crushing, hopeless experience.
Doesn't the minimum rest have to be at least as long as the shift? That's what we're taught for ATPL
@@iBreakAnkles4Fun It might be slightly different in Europe, but the legal minimum is just 10 hours for us in the States, not contingent on how long you were on duty.
@@sgtkasi That sucks bro, here at least in theory the rest period when at home base is 12h minimum or at least as long as the previous shift, 10h when away from home base or as long as the previous shift. The airlines probably break those rules though becuase Ryanair pilots always complain that theyre working 16h shifts but we're taught 13h is max except for unforeseen circumstanes, then it's 15h. Still rather that then study ATPL, the EASA ATPL is a huge bitch.
Havent the FAA learned anything from the horrific aircraft accident in Buffalo wich was caused by pilot fatigue i dont care if consumers have to pay more for tickets if pilots gets the rest and sleep they need before flying. A healthy well rested pilot is worth paying extra for.
@LifeOnHard898 Is this sarcasm? I feel like this is sarcasm.
As someone with flight anxiety this is just great to hear!
Welcome brud, still look at the statistics tho if u wanna reassure yourself
@@JohnDoe-pz5flstatistics don't mean anything if flight corporations are destroying all the policies that created the environment that garnered such statistics. You might as well read a manual to a buttplug because it'll be equally as meaningful.
@@Dankonen what are you on about? If those statistics are kept up to date they will still be relevant to reassure yourself whether to fly or not. Even if it means you're more at risk of dying. Also, nobody cares about your butt plugs, bud. It's a bad analogy. No need to project.
Stay away from low cost airlines and you'll be fine.
Isn't Ryanair one of the safest airline?
I’m a pilot and I’m so happy my daughter has no interest in aviation.
Same here. European authorities are non existent
I flew during war it was peace of cake with french air force during Sarajevo war, Somalia war, Lybia war, Eritrean war, been shot, flew like hell but compare with Flying for Commercial airline in Europe, this was hell, my company fired french pilots specifically , I have been insulted, threatened, have been harassed, HR had been lying cobsrantly, unloyal with you constantly, no pension very small bonus, flying business flights more than 450 hours per year, small bonus of 1000 euros! Insulting was the rule, during 16 years Kidding and no social security during years and years. Poor food during duty and it was never enough....
That is so sad to hear. The toxic short term profit MBA culture is destroying ndustry after industry. And aviation used to be a field that young people enter out of passion and fascination.
Don’t you have the option to go freelance rather then choosing a company ?
Smart girl !!!!
This really puts EASA to shame and emphasises their accountability. Oh, the guts to speak of "old-fashioned rules"!Aviation has become safer by learning from incidents and accidents and incidents - based on just culture - so let's protect that above all else.
Easa is a corrupted organisation in the hand of lobbies, for instance they implemented part 66 license, human factor,ewis certs for maintenance personnel only to insure constant Revenu for aviation schools .. not to improve safety..
I would really like to hear @MentourPilot his opinion about this...
Unfortunately, from my country (Poland) Wizzair and Ryanair have effectively cornered the market, with Wizzair being marginally better from the passenger side. I'd really love our government to use these sort of reports to crack down on airlines not offering Umowa o Pracy to their pilots (garbage contracts are unfortunately still very common here) with the additional benefit that this could actually improve the position of LOT and hopefully pave the way for airlines like Air Baltic or Norwegian who are low-cost but do play by the rules to start service to my home airport (GDN)
But I'm scared that nothing will change on a European level until either Ryanair or Wizzair have a major accident with considerable loss of life before anything will happen. It happened like that in the US as well, where it took a few major air crashes before they started taking things as pilot fatigue and toxic work environments more serious.
It's not changed in the US, the regionals are still dogshit, see the recent Alaska Horizon incident.
Please don't speak about contract situations when you don't know anything about it.
@@avgeek5396 could you please specify the bits where my knowledge is seemingly lacking? I'd love to fill in knowledge gaps 🙂
Mentour Pilot FLIES for.... RYANAIR!
Mentour pilot is a great content creator but he has a cushy position in Ryanair and has so far not spoken out.
Its sadly not only a problem in aviation, also in the maritime sector we still face these issues with port stays becoming shorter and shorter and the high standards of cargo charterers regarding cargo hold conditions can make the workload on the crew pretty harsh, however with more western companies choosing flags of convience the issue still persists even with mandetory timesheets making captains liable for extra hours but the companies most often face no fines
as far as i can tell, this corrupt and sick culture described, aplies to all the security and safety jobs i know people in. including, train transit, bus transit, police, ambulance drivers, security guards, taxi's. additionally, job security is such a risk for almost all wage jobs, that tour entire western culture is sticking its head in the mud, just to look out for its self, damn the consequenses
What a tragic lack of judgement displayed by EASA. And the absence of the Transport Commissioner is also telling for her interest in solving crew's problems 🤷♀
it is not lack of judgment , they know what they do, they close their eyes !
Not only for pilots but work conditions are deteriorating in every sector for some reason
As a high time airline captain I have seen the progression in pressure from the companies to force us to do more and more sectors. Coupled to ridiculous turnaround times, this can only decrease the level of safety. It is still a miracle and testament to the skill and professionalism that we see so few accidents. Cheap tickets and cheap holidays are the reason for the trend! And do not forget the greed of those that run these airlines.
Top rapportage weer Zembla. Dank jullie wel. Schokkend wederom.
Not to bash the US, but if the US (epitome of capitalism) is saying this is going too far, you know you f-ed up. Although admittedly, they may have their own reason for not liking the cheap competition.
Cheaper competition? Wizz and Ryan don't/can't fly in the US, competition isn't a factor.
@@EC-oe9bvryanair cant fly to America cuz the 737 800s cant reach it
"There is a hazard, there is a potential risk… but we don't have a problem."
So we'll do nothing and wait until the risk materializes? This is a board member of EASA?!! Maybe I should ask first, what ARE the qualifications necessary to become a board member?
Qualifications do not matter: it is about who you know, not what you know.
This is a sort of a public secret. Everybody knows about it, but as long as there aren’t any serious accidents. Nobody says anything.
German wings 2015 , but the pilot was crazy, yeah sure
All the pilots should come together and sign an agreement to not fly under those conditions and a comity that protects their rights should protect them against those barbaric conditions and terms. Thanks to each and every pilot that Flys us to our destinations and our loved ones .
The problem is the Unions...The UK union BALPa refused to support the Mike SImkins stating it would very hard to win against a multi billion pound airline....Dispite having to represtn himself..he won.
@@bfg6632The unions and government bodies that protect the pilots are bought and paid for by the flight corporations.
@@bfg6632 The trouble is NOT the unions. The trouble is clearly lack of Unions - thanks Anti-Union campaigner.
Problem is that as pilots, we're kind of one trick ponies in a very passion driven field. There is no shortage of candidates willing to work under these conditions, unfortunately, as long as they're just able to fly a jet. Especially in Europe where many airlines do ab-initio training programs, whose candidates are then beholden to the airline to stay lest they be saddled with the entire cost of their training for breach of contract or what have you.
@@sgtkasi well said
Bottom line is if you work for any business that uses a low cost model the workers have to be low cost and or as productive as possible. Not a shocker.
Many thanks for the detailed investigation. Keep it top please, we need to hear more about it, consistently making it public until something inevitable happened.
This can be avoided by employing more pilots, but it seems that all companies (not just the low cost ones) would rather safe money. I used to be a cabin crew and to be honest this issue wasn't so obvious before the pandemic.
Oh it was...was just covered up by pilots and crew willing to break the law.
I'm sorry but having lower (meaning not being, mostly born into, exceptional richness) human being stressed out, having mental health issues or any other kind of hurt is just not a problem at all! Only once we cross the line of actually losing money, because we lost customers due to accidents and deaths happening, will we be open to start thinking and eventually maybe even talking about/spinning it.
Not hard to say bad things about Ryan Air but it carries the 3rd most passengers in the world and has never had a passenger fatality. Airlines 1, 2, and 4 can't say that.
Ryanair ordered many 737 MAX no way i will ever step foot into that plane
Truck Drivers in Europe have very stringent work and rest rules enforced by Law enforcement in the individual countries. So Fatigue is officially recognised by governments as a serious safety hazard. Why not for Pilots?
Because pilots in EU are very polite ladies that never talks ,never argues ,never demand.truck drivers ARE not that kind of ladies ....they are MEN THAT RESPECT THEIR JOBS and the responsibility...pilots in EU are just fug...s
I'm a skydive pilot now. No more airlines for me. I make my own invoice, choose my clients, agree on my schedule and am accountable to my choices.
At any time I can eff off, at any time I can be dismissed. Bargaining power starts when you're in a position to. Not before.
Good luck being an employee in today's environment.
Bij vrachtwagenchauffeurs heb je een digitale bestuurderskaart die de rij en rusttijden registreerd. In een high tech sector bestaat dat dan niet. Bizar.
Low cost in Europe only?? Those stories about microsleeps and falling asleep in descend happened in big very non-low-cost airlines in the desert. So everywhere, same problem, same management.
Fully agree with you !
Three Man Crew from the Gulf to JFK etc ...24hrs rest , then come back.
Nobody wanted to report fatigue.
Ret B 777 Commander.
Het moet eerst een keertje goed misgaan voordat mensen hier iets aan gaan doen. Het probleem hier en overal is "management" & tussenhandelaartjes, mensen die zitten de hele dag te vertellen dat andere mensen moeten werken en zelf alleen maar lopen te zoeken om tussen de wetten door zoveel mogelijk geld op te strijken voor hunzelf.
Er zou overal een "management" salaris plafond moeten komen, ga zelf maar je poten uitsteken om een vliegtuig te besturen als je meer wilt verdienen.
En het gaat enkel "mis" als er een vliegtuig crasht met een hoog geplaatste politieker aan boord.
Als het gaat om een vliegtuig vol "plebs" dan wordt het gewoon "een betreurenswaardig incident" zonder meer.
At this moment 21K views, this should be at least a million+ spread this video so people know what's going on.
Worth a watch to see the reality of today's aviation industry. The book referred to is 'Pulling Wings From Butterflies'
Thank you for the reference.
@zembla, your Dutch Article links to the questions the airlines are asked, which is mentioned in the article, but the English version doesn't. Even though the questions are asked in English. Took me a bit to figure that out, might be usefull fot the English speaking audience to include it in the Enlish article as well.
Thanks for the tip! We have included the questions and answers in the English article.
I once tried to do a flight from CDG to SFO in a flight sim whilst not having slept for 27 hours. Even though it was with minimal hand flying and with AUTOLAND, you feel the effects of fatigue in every part of the decision making process. Your brain is used to the common procedures and does things automatically but as soon as it comes to safety checks, weather/alternate monitoring or basically anything requiring your attention and decision making. Your brain stops thinking like “If engine fails during takeoff we’re going to do this” or “If we hit birds during approach we’re going to do this” and the sole goal in your mind becomes “Let’s land this thing and get it over with”.
And I believe this is the sinister side of fatigue, we won’t be seeing it’s effects immediately in thousands of flights happening each day because commercial aviation is extremely safe in itself already thanks to modern airliners and procedures but the moment unlikely happens in such a crew like above, we’ll see similar simple mistakes as in Tenerife or Dubai.
Why do we need a EU Commissioner who is not even willing to be interviewed about such an important matter? She seems unfit for the job. Political appointee, not per definition based upon competency. Not to mention EASA. EU at its "best". What a joke.
ik ben al niet van het vliegen (ecologische voetafdruk), maar dit soort "grappen" weerhoudt mij er dus helemaal van...
ik neem de auto, trein of fiets wel om ergens heen te gaan.
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Ik hoop echt dat meer mensen dit kijken en meer mensen zich hier boos om maken. We willen allemaal graag veilig op vakantie, dit gaat ons allemaal aan.
A very Good Video 👍🏻
The US is not a bunch of countries united so no cross border employment laws to mess with. In the US you work as an employee for the one airline and given a seniority number. That number is your whole career at the company. No independent contractors.
The company are humans those humans are to be hold accountable.
That's the problem. Legally, a corporation is a person and thus no real people are usually hold liable.
Few in the Irish Republic care about employee laws or safety. Ryan air is no different.
The world we live in moves so fast and full of interests that it is impossible to say I won't get on a plane again or the next time I do I won't go low cost. The only option is to pretend I hadn't found out because otherwise I wouldn't leave the house. The price of living on this planet today is accepting that it is unfair, unequal, destructive and inhumane. The human being turns towards his own destruction with no way to land, the landing strip is on fire and the control tower is a bank.
This is normal and part of the social-economic model we uphold. The job of pilot isn't to fly someone from A to B their job is to make their company/investors as much money as possible. Since the company is, often legally, obligated to continue to make more profit each quarter to avoid losing external funding it will have to either cut corners where possible or raise their prices. Raising prices of course will make them less competitive so they will get fewer flyers which might still make for less profit and that is now allowed by investors.
The same thing happens in pretty much every branch. The quality or safety of the product, service or its employees is a distant secondary consideration that really only is considered because the potential effects a failure there might affect the profit.
That this happens to be a very important product or service where safety is critical, like in a flight or in a hospital, is also secondary. It is the businesses job to run their company as lean as possible on the razors edge of what is possible and allowed all the time and if they think they can get away with it they will do it worse.
It really sucks.
Exactly..however, it is the CAA and EASA who are criminally covering up the blatant criminal actions of airlines in breaching the law designed to protect passengers and crew.
I was a B 777 Commander for a five star M.E. airline ...we were " standardized " to EASA Standards , we couldn't Believe how Europeans would come up with this Nonsense !
I was single and lived in a beautiful hotel, everything set up for me.
I felt Very Bad for my Married Colleagues ...didn't have time to rest .
Bad , this is really Bad!
As it is said in the book Pulling Wings From Butterflies...the regulators and many airlines are playing 'Jenga' with passenger and crew safety. It is a fact ..aka Tombstone Safety.
And add onto this issue, we have pilots and crew being exposed to toxic organophosphates on board .
And we have the forced vaccination and many pilots pass out because of this .
Corporate management is the same everywhere: maximum profit, whatever it takes
I was a huge avgeek, I wanted to become a pilot, until I realised more and more that the working conditions are horrendous. Either from stories, or by connecting my own dots. There needs to be a union formed ASAP. A union that takes advantage of media, strikes, and the few regulations that don’t take advantage of loopholes. These things combined can make a strong union. I would prefer paying higher ticket price than flying with overworked pilots. Funny enough Ryanair was also one of the companies that was bitching about the “freedom of movement” when France had those ATC strikes. Really tells you what their ethics on working conditions are. Absolutely disgusting behaviour. They even had people singing petitions, pretending they’re protecting the passangers. Really they were protecting their finances.
These people who make " the rules " , probably sleep at home Every Night , and have all their weekends and holidays no matter what .
But We Pilots , are the " Common Soldiers " Fighting at the Trenches.
Heavy Jet Commander ( Ret.).
I m a pilot and all I have to say is DO NOT FLY LOW COST
I still don't see mentions regarding the fact the crew are "not supposed" to report maintenance issues that could eventually ground the aircraft, and cancel flights.
I believe the situation will continue or even worse in the mid term future. I would say its not just to blame the airlines, but more the aviation business structure in whole... Airlines are constantly left out without a steady cash flow. This happens for many reasons, some of them is because everyone is making money in aviation sector and airlines are paying for it... Aircraft manufacturers, parts manufacturers, engineering companies, airports, handlers, maintenance, regulators, .... And what airlines has in return? One major source of income... tickets or charter/acmi contracts... My opinion, the start would be to regulate parts providers/manufacturers if the price caps (margins) can be justifiable? An example - bearing used for commercial use costs 50e, the same one with certificate manufactured under same materials and quality system... costs 1000€+ for airliner use...
I think they need a tachograph 😂
This is simply criminal.
Lots of employees have lots of problems with their jobs and working for others.
Well thats true, but in public transport and aviation especially, there are hundreds of people at the risk of dying. Every time.
I am an airline pilot for the past 20 years have flown 330 340 and now I am a Captain on the 320 for the past 20 years flew most routes. And it’s never been so unsafe ever I am willing to talk to a reporter and confirm identity
Would be cool to hear @AeroNewsGermany 's opinion about this topic as well.
Begin your career with 500 000 € study debt. And then being treated like shit.
Hellyes
I love how everything is about the money even after the golden standard. The whole world becoming worthless. Lets just all comit suïcide
Solution: don't fly for Ryan Air nor Wizz air. In fact, time to withdraw their licences. A GB pilot must get paid in the UK pay taxes and soc security there. Full employment rules, no self employment. That German interviewed disgusts me. There is a hazard but no problem he says. Well, a hazard is a problem. IAATA should be dismantled and EU / US controlled.
So let's have this EASA Managers fly around the world in 4 sectors , with minimum rest , plus crossing multiple time zones and your sleeping pattern Totally messed up !
I am very disappointed/worried and angry ... safety must always be the number one priority, far above all the other things. And especially above saving money. For pilots health this is not oke and how can someone with fatigue respons well in case of emergency? Or even do the normal tasks without much bigger change of making faults.
Come on!! Stop follow the money! As a passenger i would be fine to pay more money for a ticket or accept a cancelled flight because it was not possible to make a shedule with enough rest.
Pilots take heavy airplanes with them, with passengers... who thought it was a good plan to push pilots over their limits!!?
Read the book 'Pulling Wings From Butterflies'...it is damming!
Politics and the economy are run by criminals.
@@bfg6632 thanks, I didn’t know that book. Put it on my ‘want to read list’. Not sure if this is the right moment to read. In a few months I will have some flights for a trip I am really looking forward to. I already have fear of flying and I guess after reading this book that would be more.
Everybody! Don’t fly with low cost carriers!
Reason? When other companies like SAS have a bad safety record I cant go and fly with a low cost airline with the best safety record?
Met schiphol kan je hier ook iets aan doen. De regel maken dat piloten met een atypisch contract die willen landen dubbel zoveel kosten aan de luchtvaartmaatschappij. En samen werken met bv
Duitsland en België
There needs to be a booking system where pilots pick the slots they like the most. No pressure. Only a minimum requirement amd training
Check your English subtitles, they were clearly done by Dutch who have problems distinguishing between Safe and Save
Automation has really efficiently peppered over those cracks.
Die vrije-markt gedachte is toch maar fantstisch, nietwaar ?
Communism is amazing 🤡🙄🤦
This applies for almost every major industry on this planet.
Thx for this report.
Scenario, plain crash, recovering black box & only last recorded audio is: Pilots snoring.... But always have suspected those budget airlines cheat in dangerous ways.. 😢
Ryanair are angels compared to ACMI operators. Ive flown for ACMI companies and no minimum rest, no maximum duty no social security and so on. Not to mention the pressure from management to not report fatigue as the reports are being read by the authorities. Ive regretted the fact that I chased my dream of becoming a pilot a million times
I'm a pilot in Ryanair.
In the last few months I have seen in my own two eyes how we are being forced to work more hours and hours.
It's a tragedy waiting to happen
Ba safe and don't fly us
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Well, you get what you are willing to pay for.
what are you referring at ?
If employers don't want people to say anything wrong about them, they should stop giving the people a reason to do so. Also, how does @airclips select the flights they make RUclips videos of?
@74gear I have seen many of your videos in which you are describing safety features, but it seems the industry still found some loop holes around them
This video address a serious problems- but the sensational presentation, the breathlessness, the wierd voices, the mixing of issues, all contribute to undermining the effectiveness of the presentation. It’s more clickbait than serious journalism. Sadly.
The ever-deteriorating working conditions of airline crew (cockpit and cabin) as seen in the past two decades have turned one of the dreamiest work environments into a very toxic one in every way. Aero toxic at that.
The fault is clearly from pilots of each company for not having unions .regulations are working for companies. All the responsibility is from pilots accepting these regulations and not setting boundaries.
I agree this is very concerning, but the USA banning WizzAir and lecturing EASA on security when they have US airports that ask airliners to land with a visual approach at night seems a bit hypocritical, to say the least.
For those who want the reference (or are curious about listening to a few minutes of ATC-pilot chitchat), the flight I'm talking about is Lufthansa 458, 17 October 2023 around 03:40 UTC, which was supposed to land in San Francisco airport (SFO) and ended up diverting to Oakland because the controllers just had them wait for ages and made them run quite low on fuel because they wouldn't give them an instrument approach.
What is wrong with doing visual approaches when there is no weather? It allows ATC to reduce separation minima, which gets more flights in and out fairly efficiently. I guess I have a bias, because I am US based, and we have a slightly different approach to our flight training. We train pilots, not "airline" pilots, so being able to navigate in both VFR and IFR conditions is a pretty important requirement in the US, especially for the airlines. I am not 100% sure on Lufthansa's FCOM, but something tells me it kind of screwed them over, because they wanted SFO to slow down operations just to accommodate them. Just so you know, in the US we always back visual approaches up with the ILS or RNAV when we do them, so this isn't really us doing something different from the guys and gals in Europe.
@@straven89 Well let's just say I find it a bit optimistic to pretend to be "visual" when there is no light. But I guess this is indeed debatable, or at least quite debated, as can be seen in the comments under said video
@@julienb5815 In the US, we don't consider it IFR (instrument rules) just because it is dark outside. We acknowledge the inherent danger in flying at night, but if it is 10 miles and clear of clouds, it is visual rules for us. Need to have low clouds and visibility to run IFR. We usually change over when the ceilings are below a certain amount or the visibility is under a certain amount (usually ceilings under 3000). I am aware that in the rest of the world nighttime is treated much differently regardless of weather conditions. The only issue with calling out US ATC is that it runs under FAA rules, which don't treat nighttime as its own separate rating. We also have a more lively aviation culture than the rest of the world. Not everyone who flies in the US flies for the airlines, or wants to. In the rest of the world, the vast majority of planes flying around are airliners, and the people who want to become pilots do so to fly for the airline. Personally, I wouldn't consider a clear night as instrument conditions. It is just a difference in cultures; nothing to debate.
@@straven89 "It is just a difference in cultures" => Well, considering that WizzAir never had a single fatality yet, you could also call their practices "just a difference in cultures"
@@julienb5815 Even the low cost carriers in the US have a better safety record than our Legacy carriers. Same thing can be said in Europe. A lot of your guys flag carriers don't have the cleanest of records either, just the low costs. It doesn't change the fact that there is a fundamental difference in philosophy between US airlines and the rest of the world's airlines. Not saying one group is better than the other; that is all opinion. To your first example of visual rules at night: a US pilot would think it is ridiculous to want to be cleared for an instrument approach when the conditions are good, but in the rest of the world it seems reasonable. A lot of newer airline pilots in the US did other types of flying before showing up to the airlines. In Europe, and most of the world, a lot of the newer pilots focus more on flying for the airlines in a crew environment. Up to you to figure out if dedicated airline courses, emphasizing working as a crew and roles, to commercial is better than learning how to fly by yourself, being the sole decision maker, flying charter, or instructing for a couple of years. Difference in cultures.
In the old days if we got sleepy we would take a nap in our 2 and 3 man crews. Or guzzle the caffeine and suck in the nicotine and stretch the legs if engaging conversation didn't work. You don't get sleepy in busy cockpits.
@MentourPilot, please share your views?
Dit probleem heb je bij vele vele banen ,de druk de slavernij achtig gevoel die de werknemer ervaart.
Praten of klagen is baan kwijt want voor jou 100 andere
dat hangt behoorlijk van de sector waarin je werkt af...
momenteel is het zo dat men in de meeste vakgebieden loopt te schreeuwen om personeel. en dan kun je als "loonslaaf" wel je mond opendoen en eisen stellen, je kunt zelfs tegen de baas zeggen "voor jou 10 anderen".
En het erge is dat ze dan nog tegen jou durfen te zeggen zeggen tja had je maar een vak moeten leren.
@@ingeposch8091raar he dat na die hele corona gedoe velen die in deze idioterie werkten hebven uitgecheckt. Uiteindelijk moeten de kantoorbaantjes wat minder worden of men moet technologie upgraden zsm... die allochtonen willen niet meer meedoen aan deze shitshow
This exact video is a perfect example of the “culture of fear”. I don’t even care if it’s true or not., the whole presentation, music, “horrorish” mood are here to scare people to fly on the planes, except of the KLM of course
The reality of administrative terrorism.
in europe, we can sleep on our seats , if at least we warn the other pilot and the cabin attendants
Oh, a documentary about Ryanair!
Corporations have learned they can do whatever they want.
Not only this...but diversity means competence is no longer the key selection for pilots and air traffic control in the EU. The minimum legal standards will do rather than the best from all candidates. In a complex system this will lead to tragedies.
That is exactly why I do not fly with Ryanair or Whizzair
"Atypical"? In Poland we say straight: junk-contracts.
This is most definitely about ryanair, they treat their pilots / cabincrew like slaves. If this video scares you, do not fly with ryanair
Audit is a tool to ensure compliance, it is not for catching naughty people.
The guy is confused audit with investigation. You’re not expecting to find irregularities with audit. It’s there purely to ensure compliance.
How would you know people are following the rules if you don’t check them?
Why would anyone follow the rules they find inconvenience, if they know no one ever comes to audit them?
Hence, you need to conduct audit on regular basis. 36:08
Audit or investigation should be the same thing in aviation.
@@jingle1161 Its not the same thing. Audit is just to ensure compliance, that’s it.
It’s a normal business operation. It’s similar to check-ride for pilots. It’s the same objective to ensure that pilots are in compliance with technical proficiency and is operating according to SOP.
Investigation is for finding out what actually did happened? Fir example after an audit you may find there are discrepancies, or there are sign of manipulation /fake records or allegations of wrongdoings etc
I wonder why mentor pilot wouldn’t speak about this
Dont shit where you eat.
He works for Ryanair :)
@@Cymbalixno wonder he needs to make RUclips videos to make enough money
Here is an 8 years old video from mentor pilot about it ruclips.net/video/4FxGsBSMpiM/видео.html
As usual IT WILL TAKE A TERRIBLE ACCIDENT WITH LOSS OF LIFE for anything to change 😡😡😡😡😡
Pilots really need to unionise themselves better. There's a shortage of pilots and it's going to get worse, so there is some leverage on their side. 🤞🏼🤞🏼
There's a reason why WizzAir is called WitzAir (AKA JokeAir) in Hungarian, Váradi is like those sociopath CEOs from the nineties in Hungary who ran amok til no end because of the lack of regulations and oversight + corruption. 🤮
Welcome to the real world, sounds similar to every industry, especially construction.
After watching this video 'Wizz Air '' has become an absolute no-no for me.
Why aren’t there cameras in the cockpit? Recordings should be stored in the black box. That should solve many questions…
I am steering clear from mentioned airlines!! Even though it will cost me more to fly with others.
Clare Daly (EU parlement) is really good! Love this woman!
Boycott Wizzair and Ryanair!
Not enough pilots. We predicted this in covid when everyone was taking large sums of voluntary redundancies 😭😭 smh
Like, seriously, there is a bloody shortage of pilots across the globe. Dont like it? Find another bloody job.
kapitalism at its best... sad...
capitalism*
??? teacher???? or spelling bashing??? want to know my iq??? more than 170 but dislectic???? gtfo Netschaap, i destroid a multimiljon dollar compagy, what did you do with your languageskills????? nothing!@@glibberige
In communism the same abuses happen, but you are not even allowed to complain.
False equivalence of yours to claim that mafia style systems are the consequence of capitalism, it is actually a consequence of lack of enforcement of regulations and bad laws with loopholes, any economic system can create that scenario.
capitalism what we know is a race to the bottem... look around you, in the netherlands we had socialcapitalism, mutch better system, but is almost gone now@@pedrolopes3542
Zonder Kapitalisme waren er geeneens vliegtuigen.
It's not possible to do the job for life anymore.
Not if you want to remain in any degree of health
How about terminal incapacitations? In pairs? They want to reduce the cabin crew to one (1) pilot only. Maybe even less... All for your safety. Statistically, 1 of 1 pilots has 50% less chance to become incapacitated than 1 of 2, but you must be certain that you have the right 1 aboard. One way or another, flying will soon become people's history and elite's privilege.