26:00 the boss isn't invulnerable for most of the orb attack, the problem is that you can only damage it while inside the orb. On the bright side, if you do go inside the orb, his weak points are exposed for most of the animation, if memory serves
Downside: going into the orb nullifies you, so it's much safer to just wait the 10 seconds until he finishes. It's a 10 minute timer, 10 seconds more or less won't matter.
Been looking forward to this guide so i can finally fight the super boss, did not expect it to be less a boss fight & more of an attenuation checklist.
Not sure if this is common knowledge, but after you heavy slam, tapping block will cancel the recovery and let you move again sooner, except your jump is kind of disabled for a bit. Rolling is always an option but this is a good second. Edit: Apologies, this only works with the Sampotes. The titron doesn't get this effect.
I found this way easier than the tank boss. Cleared this one with minimal effort with some help from guides and messing around with what I was comfortable with. I ran Torid, Vazarin for protective sling, and rolling guard. After that I just maxed out aim glide and took a heavy slam melee for clearing trash. I find he doesn't do nearly the damage the tank does. Thanks for the guide!
Thanks very much for this guide. And you're right, the mid 'arena' is so bad that you're forced on the ground and die straight away - also, given it's so small, the boss silences you big time. I died 3 times in a row in it (very unlucky), as soon as I got the large one, I managed to do it first time - much easier!
I just circled around alternating rolling guard and protective dash and it wasn't too bad on the ground...I used a glaive to clear adds when a large number spawn but a heavy slam build makes sense too
This ^^ If you use a full shield gate + Vazarin panic button, the boss is actually pretty easy. And even if you do get hit I found out you have time to recover. No need to stay in air
Whether or not the Laetum is the best 2ndary is hard to say, but it is probably the one that surprises me most for being a 2ndary. Between it and something like the augmented Ocucor, I can always bring something that compliments my setup. They do such good jobs that I no longer feel my single-target focused setup really wants help with multi-target from the team or frame's attacks, and vice-versa.
I was struggling to fight the superboss solo for awhile, and then I found out that the sicarus prime incarnon was incredibly bugged, so I used that and cheesed the fight line a day or two before it got patched. Now I got me some nice grippers for my ship
I did this in the Anchorite arena (the worst one) and it was surprisingly not as horrible as I thought. Just stick to the outside and build distance between the boss as much as possible and stay in the air as well. Did it with Sevagoth and only had one call but I was also lacking a bit
I highly advise using a necramech in this. I burned away most of 60 eye murmer and shield/ health tanked most shots using my necramech and a kuva grattler
had great success in the tank fight with the max in-air dr build, anyone know if it seems to work good for 60eyes? weird, was definitely a bug but vazarin's 1 appeared to reduce regen delay to 0.00sec with its on-break effect + a -delay mod when i did the tank but i can't get it to happen anymore 🧀😢
Malurth did a great video explaining this which I highly recommend, but if memory serves correctly: When the primary beam hits an enemy it causes an invisible explosion, which then spawns the chaining beams to other enemies (from every enemy hit by said initial beam explosion; not just the initial enemy hit). Firestorm increases the radius of that explosion, which in turn makes it easier to hit more enemies for more chain beams, effectively increasing the target cap quite drastically. Obviously there are limits in terms of damage falloff and (lack of) multishot application, but since the Torid deals essentially overkill amounts of damage anyways it's still an incredibly good and easy way to boost its AoE potential TL;DR: Firestorm makes it a lot easier to spawn more chaining beams and due to the Torid's crazy base damage it's arguably the best way to increase its AoE potential
TLDR: the initial aoe of the beam is considered an explosion and the larger explosion radius means it can hit more targets to chain to. Malurth has a fantastic video explaining this exact question, including a coded simulation to visualize exactly why.
honestly both of the super bosses have been really boring "endgame" content. they should really bring back trials. those we're the closest to "raids" and were actually fun endgame content. fun to learn, fun to teach.
Yknow, i told myself i wouldn't bpther with the super bosses cuz its not worth the effort for an ugly sumdali... But i kinda really want that Jade glpyh
@shauntempley9757 yeah, really weird stuff. I did the 1999 tank because it made perfect sense, but I won't be doing 20 minutes missions here. I would in a bit if Dante, my favorite, and Qorvex were there
The chaining check between the first enemy you hit and the enemies it chains to is a sphere, and firestorm makes it bigger. Means that below enemy chaining cap or makes the chaining longer.
@@KaiSoDaM The beam chains five times starting from EACH enemy hit in the initial 'sphere', so Firestorm allows for more beams to spread out. And to be clear, it doesn't change how far the beams can track.
In what way? If you mean the funny haha Zarr build I might post about it but probably going to wait for the first patch of the year to see if things shift after all the feedback
@@omega9077 How? The fight is decent, but its not testing your build and skill nearly as much. It's mostly about shooting weakpoints to end invincebility phases, which is a terrible design, since it's not really testing your skill, but moreso your knowledge, not to mention that the rocket launchers are doing most of the work anyway. The minion spawn rate is horrendous too. Anyone can shoot some weakpoints, but the 60/30 fight was actually testing your build in terms of survivability and damage output. It had well telegraphed attacks, interesting and fun phases, that didn't feel like waiting around. I played the SP tank mission a couple of times by now and didn't die once, let alone fail, while I actually needed a decent group and a couple of tries on the 60/30 boss fight. And imo that's how Endgame boss design should be.
Most of the 6 of these have shield gating abilities that come from spamming skills or constantly increasing shields. Mirage might not be a good choice, but from what I've tried, the time it takes to kill this boss is about 15 minutes faster than the other 5. If these 6 are going to be the next protoframe, I'll be very happy, because I'm a protea main.
Devouring Attrition does NOT work on certain bosses like 60 eyes, H09 tank, Acolytes etc. Laetum with Attrition evo is like coughing baby vs the hydrogen bomb these bosses are. Companion damage or summon damage is not reduced by DR afaik in these things when it comes to DR so Nyx's Mind Control subsume is NOT a horrible idea in this fight if you can just Overguard Strip an eximus unit and tame it with Mind Control and apply HEAVY dmg to the enemy unit. Why are you using Viral against a faction that is specifically resistant to viral? I know DR wont really let it matter as much against the boss but the murmur? Sure priming with a few stacks of viral is great but Radiation and Electric are the way to go if you want an easier time/
electric is great, though heat would still out damage it on electric weak enemies after a few procs, but i see no reason not to use viral's +325% damage even with the res, unless im missing something?
@@seihoukeh your right viral is always a buff in most in not all cases due to this case has with any dot its already the highest damage combined element in the game (in like 99.9% of cases) so viral is used for the proc has to not need a viral priming from say nourish or companion or tempest barrage
This is hands down the best designed Boss fight in the entire game and DE should actually use it as the foundation for all the new boss fights in the future.
Been saying this ever since the boss fight came out. It's easily the best designed boss fight in the game and that's how all the boss fights should feel moving forward.
I mean yeah, when the only reward is a glyph then it’s really just for bragging rights. If you think it’s a waste of time… you’re not wrong. You don’t have to do it lol
So DE basically added a glyph (who uses glyphs) as a reward to a miserably boring and long boss fight? Like I get doing completion of a game but why would you bother doing this boss
UK what would've been better than these pictures how about secret weapons, mods, or a new type of companion(s)... for all this to be for pictures is lame asl
Then show us where it was debunked. All latest videos about Torid and it's interaction with Primed Firestorm only proves that said mod worth a slot against crowds of enemies so idk what you implying here.
Torid has an AOE on the enemy it hits and then if that AOE hits multiple enemies, it can chain more from them. It won't chain to more if they are spread out and that initial AOE doesn't hit multiple.
@@ledumpalustre629 Primed Firestorm only increase the AOE that starts its first chain, it doesn’t spawn more chains, or increase the length those chains are able to travel. So yeah, not worth a mod slot
I've literally only ever seen it be 'bunked' in testing, not debunked. You can literally do back to back tests in the Simulacrum with and without the mod and see how much faster everything dies. You could go do that now yourself and not rely on somebody else's data.
I mean the torid is available next week so this is a really good time to release this.
How do you know the Torid is available next week?
It's always the same cycle, it never changes. This week is week 4, next week will be week 5. It starts over after 8. It’s on the wiki.
@@NickSteffen cheers
I still find it hillarious how they released this right after nerfing archon attenuation and patching the bugs it had due to all the complaints.
26:00 the boss isn't invulnerable for most of the orb attack, the problem is that you can only damage it while inside the orb. On the bright side, if you do go inside the orb, his weak points are exposed for most of the animation, if memory serves
This ^^
Downside: going into the orb nullifies you, so it's much safer to just wait the 10 seconds until he finishes. It's a 10 minute timer, 10 seconds more or less won't matter.
@@Poisen_ wyrm prime
Been looking forward to this guide so i can finally fight the super boss, did not expect it to be less a boss fight & more of an attenuation checklist.
My favorite guide! Having to shoot a god damned timer.. thanks DE... really cool
16:45 ahhhh. eye get it, mr. brozime. 🤣
The "I am Zephyr, but actually I am not" modding. Nice.
Not sure if this is common knowledge, but after you heavy slam, tapping block will cancel the recovery and let you move again sooner, except your jump is kind of disabled for a bit.
Rolling is always an option but this is a good second.
Edit: Apologies, this only works with the Sampotes. The titron doesn't get this effect.
I found this way easier than the tank boss. Cleared this one with minimal effort with some help from guides and messing around with what I was comfortable with. I ran Torid, Vazarin for protective sling, and rolling guard. After that I just maxed out aim glide and took a heavy slam melee for clearing trash. I find he doesn't do nearly the damage the tank does. Thanks for the guide!
I had not even heard of this boss before now. Thank you!
It just came out
@@Camothor10It came out almost a year ago, time is flying by.
@ oh okay I just assumed it came out with the super tank cuz I had never heard of it either 😭
Thank you for the guide, as usual for this game I didn't even know this was a thing until you mentioned it ^^
You did the guide! Thanks Brozime, I will be attempting this myself tomorrow
no other game but warframe would award you a profile pic for soloing a giant stone centipede using only a pregnant woman
Thanks very much for this guide. And you're right, the mid 'arena' is so bad that you're forced on the ground and die straight away - also, given it's so small, the boss silences you big time. I died 3 times in a row in it (very unlucky), as soon as I got the large one, I managed to do it first time - much easier!
Use the MIGHTY SEER to unlock everything
say tat B.S again and well have chu band...PERM. 😒
@shadowdragonx07 are you trying to say that you'll ban me? Because with the power of the MIGHTY SEER I cannot get banned
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@@ThePopeOfAwesomenessyou are so unfunny its insane
Never break character, you're the reason I got a Seer.
I just circled around alternating rolling guard and protective dash and it wasn't too bad on the ground...I used a glaive to clear adds when a large number spawn but a heavy slam build makes sense too
Honestly it ended up being easier than expected. Turns out abusing I-frames makes it pretty trivial.
This ^^
If you use a full shield gate + Vazarin panic button, the boss is actually pretty easy. And even if you do get hit I found out you have time to recover. No need to stay in air
Whether or not the Laetum is the best 2ndary is hard to say, but it is probably the one that surprises me most for being a 2ndary.
Between it and something like the augmented Ocucor, I can always bring something that compliments my setup.
They do such good jobs that I no longer feel my single-target focused setup really wants help with multi-target from the team or frame's attacks, and vice-versa.
Book better
Good video, nicely explained. But what interested me is your drifter face blend settings😅 Mind sharing them? Looks great
I was struggling to fight the superboss solo for awhile, and then I found out that the sicarus prime incarnon was incredibly bugged, so I used that and cheesed the fight line a day or two before it got patched. Now I got me some nice grippers for my ship
Love it. Hilarious to compare this to how I originally did this with Rev. Thanks, boss.
I did this in the Anchorite arena (the worst one) and it was surprisingly not as horrible as I thought. Just stick to the outside and build distance between the boss as much as possible and stay in the air as well. Did it with Sevagoth and only had one call but I was also lacking a bit
Using Vauban and didn't even use is mines, they do crazy damage, they scale to enemy level.
Could be useful but the boss does disable abilities unless you have a way to combat energy problem
is this laetrum build generally good going for status damage? or just for this fight?
I highly advise using a necramech in this. I burned away most of 60 eye murmer and shield/ health tanked most shots using my necramech and a kuva grattler
Made me a 147. Wasn't really up to date with my AMP Game. What Arcanes should I run with my AMP? Any recommendation?
had great success in the tank fight with the max in-air dr build, anyone know if it seems to work good for 60eyes?
weird, was definitely a bug but vazarin's 1 appeared to reduce regen delay to 0.00sec with its on-break effect + a -delay mod when i did the tank but i can't get it to happen anymore
🧀😢
Slightly unrelated but what’s the animation set he’s using at the beginning with protea prime? (Where she spins)
That's one from Mirage
I would personally like to know why primed firestorm for torrid? I’ve never known to run it I may just be missing out on something.
Malurth did a great video explaining this which I highly recommend, but if memory serves correctly: When the primary beam hits an enemy it causes an invisible explosion, which then spawns the chaining beams to other enemies (from every enemy hit by said initial beam explosion; not just the initial enemy hit). Firestorm increases the radius of that explosion, which in turn makes it easier to hit more enemies for more chain beams, effectively increasing the target cap quite drastically. Obviously there are limits in terms of damage falloff and (lack of) multishot application, but since the Torid deals essentially overkill amounts of damage anyways it's still an incredibly good and easy way to boost its AoE potential
TL;DR: Firestorm makes it a lot easier to spawn more chaining beams and due to the Torid's crazy base damage it's arguably the best way to increase its AoE potential
TLDR: the initial aoe of the beam is considered an explosion and the larger explosion radius means it can hit more targets to chain to.
Malurth has a fantastic video explaining this exact question, including a coded simulation to visualize exactly why.
Isnt zephyr better to stay in the air and deflect the projectiles?
You have to do it with the 6 specific frames to get the accolades but for a normal clear Zephyr is a good pick for sure
Sucks you have to pay 20p for a display of the glyphs. Total of 240p for that decoration
Just wait for a global twitch drop campaing, they'll probably be there. I got like 120 in 2021
Diplos might be worth a look now with acuity :)
So is this a different boss to the one during the event?
honestly both of the super bosses have been really boring "endgame" content. they should really bring back trials. those we're the closest to "raids" and were actually fun endgame content. fun to learn, fun to teach.
Yknow, i told myself i wouldn't bpther with the super bosses cuz its not worth the effort for an ugly sumdali... But i kinda really want that Jade glpyh
inb4 I use octavia and stay invisible on the ground avoiding those attack
I forget the skybox
In my run using Vauban i didn't cheese it at all, but i dont know of that is a flex or not lol.
i really don't see this as being worth grinding to do, but its great for completionists i guess
maybe im a bit stupid but how was aoi in his base?
If you date one of the hex and get their chemistry high enough, they move in.
@zedar0 wait what counts as high enough? I'm dating one of them n they haven't moved in
17:25 "We. Are. Going. To. Go. Collect. More. Eyes." 🤣
It's crazy to me that Dante and Qorvex aren't part of this glyph package
I know. Those two are basically built to fight the Murmur. Mind you, no other frame that comes for specific enemies have glyphs either.
@shauntempley9757 yeah, really weird stuff. I did the 1999 tank because it made perfect sense, but I won't be doing 20 minutes missions here. I would in a bit if Dante, my favorite, and Qorvex were there
I mean the accolades are cool but a timer isn't a boss fight.
why is primed firestorm on the torid? i get it could help the base form but if spending most of your time in the incarnon what does it do?
cant tell you *why* it does, but it increases the amount of enemies the incarnon form will spread out to kill
Increases beam chain radius
The chaining check between the first enemy you hit and the enemies it chains to is a sphere, and firestorm makes it bigger. Means that below enemy chaining cap or makes the chaining longer.
Increase the beam tracking distance. You get to clear a bigger area. But still limited to 5 enemies max
@@KaiSoDaM The beam chains five times starting from EACH enemy hit in the initial 'sphere', so Firestorm allows for more beams to spread out. And to be clear, it doesn't change how far the beams can track.
amazing, thank you
Aztecross sent me
Need a khora one soon even if I can’t whip the boss
You wanna know what’s wild? I beat this fight in like 4 tries and the tank took me like 4 hours lol
Can you do a re look at Cyte?
In what way? If you mean the funny haha Zarr build I might post about it but probably going to wait for the first patch of the year to see if things shift after all the feedback
Low fps doesn't work anymore ???
What do you mean?
@KaiSoDaM this boss was present in earlier event. We used to kill him by lowering fps to 5 or 1 fps. It was insta kill.
Not sure, but showing off/encouraging exploits is a good way to lose your WF partner privileges.
@@zedar0 right...I forgot that
This fight is more a test of patiences rather than skill
Greater test of skill than any other boss fight in the game, but okay.
@IdocarebutIdont I would say the tank is more skill based than this one.
@IdocarebutIdont lol why are you so mad about this
@@omega9077 How? The fight is decent, but its not testing your build and skill nearly as much. It's mostly about shooting weakpoints to end invincebility phases, which is a terrible design, since it's not really testing your skill, but moreso your knowledge, not to mention that the rocket launchers are doing most of the work anyway. The minion spawn rate is horrendous too. Anyone can shoot some weakpoints, but the 60/30 fight was actually testing your build in terms of survivability and damage output. It had well telegraphed attacks, interesting and fun phases, that didn't feel like waiting around.
I played the SP tank mission a couple of times by now and didn't die once, let alone fail, while I actually needed a decent group and a couple of tries on the 60/30 boss fight. And imo that's how Endgame boss design should be.
I wonder if the six for the murmer boss are a hint at who will be the next set of proto frames
Its probably just random
But could be a hint at the frames the vessles will be based on or something
Considering Vauban was added as a dare from Pablo, unlikely
Most of the 6 of these have shield gating abilities that come from spamming skills or constantly increasing shields. Mirage might not be a good choice, but from what I've tried, the time it takes to kill this boss is about 15 minutes faster than the other 5. If these 6 are going to be the next protoframe, I'll be very happy, because I'm a protea main.
What about zephyr?
Doesn't matter for the glyphs
Devouring Attrition does NOT work on certain bosses like 60 eyes, H09 tank, Acolytes etc. Laetum with Attrition evo is like coughing baby vs the hydrogen bomb these bosses are.
Companion damage or summon damage is not reduced by DR afaik in these things when it comes to DR so Nyx's Mind Control subsume is NOT a horrible idea in this fight if you can just Overguard Strip an eximus unit and tame it with Mind Control and apply HEAVY dmg to the enemy unit.
Why are you using Viral against a faction that is specifically resistant to viral? I know DR wont really let it matter as much against the boss but the murmur? Sure priming with a few stacks of viral is great but Radiation and Electric are the way to go if you want an easier time/
electric is great, though heat would still out damage it on electric weak enemies after a few procs, but i see no reason not to use viral's +325% damage even with the res, unless im missing something?
@@seihoukeh your right viral is always a buff in most in not all cases due to this case has with any dot its already the highest damage combined element in the game (in like 99.9% of cases) so viral is used for the proc has to not need a viral priming from say nourish or companion or tempest barrage
They should make a super Sergeant boss
wow i did not know the 60 eye have glyp too
This is hands down the best designed Boss fight in the entire game and DE should actually use it as the foundation for all the new boss fights in the future.
Hands and eye and eyes and hands
Peak boss design right there. Oh gee, I wonder why I bailed on the Gargoyle event.
Been saying this ever since the boss fight came out. It's easily the best designed boss fight in the game and that's how all the boss fights should feel moving forward.
@@IdocarebutIdont 🤣😂
ayoo hype!!
The skipping through part was hard to watch
Been wo out of the look for warframe so I have no idea what the game is even anymore lol
It’s about finding the will to live again in a cruel universe.
0:25 that's not 4
??? He said "for" those specific warframes.
We have this bs but not raids
Why not just use vazarin for complete immunity to damage? Am i missing something
He is using Vazarin, you definitely missed that.
Absolutely horrible. They can keep the glyphs. Waste of time.
I mean yeah, when the only reward is a glyph then it’s really just for bragging rights. If you think it’s a waste of time… you’re not wrong. You don’t have to do it lol
DE. Nerf pls, give boss arial tracking >_>.
the pinnacle of bad game design
So DE basically added a glyph (who uses glyphs) as a reward to a miserably boring and long boss fight? Like I get doing completion of a game but why would you bother doing this boss
worst boss and mechanics ever...completely voids your progress and time invested
UK what would've been better than these pictures how about secret weapons, mods, or a new type of companion(s)... for all this to be for pictures is lame asl
The effectiveness of Primed Firestorm on Torid has been debunked so many times… Why are we still using it in 2025?
Then show us where it was debunked. All latest videos about Torid and it's interaction with Primed Firestorm only proves that said mod worth a slot against crowds of enemies so idk what you implying here.
Torid has an AOE on the enemy it hits and then if that AOE hits multiple enemies, it can chain more from them. It won't chain to more if they are spread out and that initial AOE doesn't hit multiple.
@@ledumpalustre629 Primed Firestorm only increase the AOE that starts its first chain, it doesn’t spawn more chains, or increase the length those chains are able to travel. So yeah, not worth a mod slot
I've literally only ever seen it be 'bunked' in testing, not debunked. You can literally do back to back tests in the Simulacrum with and without the mod and see how much faster everything dies. You could go do that now yourself and not rely on somebody else's data.
It has absolutely been “Bunked”, you clearly haven’t seen Malurth’s video. Please tell us exactly where it’s been debunked.