It depends on your use case. If you shoot photo on tripod, OK. It you shoot also video in studio in controlled environment... The PASM let you save all the settings in one of the custom option... And as you demonstrated, you don't necessarilly need the top dials to take pictures. I have an XT3, I'm thinking of upgrading to XH2 rather than XT5 for this reason (and my use cases).
When using the camera as a hybrid it is troublesome. For video you want to use different shutter speeds then for photo's so the dials can only be applied to one of the modes, with the other mode controlled through the menu, or you keep turning dials all the time.
Hello is it possible with retro sytle dials to go quickly from a portrait settings (Aperture priority+face&eyes detection+Subject tracking AFC+Auto Iso) to animal tracking (S prio+Subject tracking+center metering+Auto Iso) to landscape (A prio+AFS+Single spot AF+Fixed ISO), when it can be done in 1 dial turn with PASM ? My point is PASM allows to save more settings than Aperture, Shutter Speed and Iso and changing often shooting scenario back and forth can be annoying if it needs more steps than it could with another layout. Please note I have used both retro (fuji) and pasm (canon), and i do like the retro dials. I am interested to renew my gear but the xh2 line is too expensive for me ahaha.
I'd like PSAM if it was PSAMX where the X setting worked like non PSAM cameras. i.e. pay attention to the "A" setting on the aperture ring, shutter speed, and ISO. no reason a PSAM camera couldn't support both. I hate noticing I want a specific aperture and then rotating the aperture ring only to be ignored and have to change modes.
PASM is great when you either can't have multiple dials, or want to operate camera with only one hand and lens with another, and want to basically always have your eyes on a screen. Retro controls and dedicated switches are great because it is easier to think with them, as they are "implied" and not "defined". (If every dial is set to auto it is implied that you're in full auto. If shutter speed is set to a value, it is implied shutter priority. You don't switch from "aperture priority" to "full manual", you just turn a dial and it is implied. Etc) I've had my experience with both and i prefer retro, although it is really just a matter of preference, it's rather simple to be proficient in either.
Depends tbh. As a XH2 switcher from XT3, my control settings are faster now than before. There's a bunch of reasons. At least with the upcoming XT5 and the XH there's choice.
10 years ago I'd be completely on board with how you like to use it. Now I just see awkward central locking dials that take up valuable real estate and introduce unnecessary visual clutter. A dedicated top ISO dial is ridiculous now with effective auto ISO controls. Give me a PASM dial on the left, 2-3 assignable control wheels with BIG BRIGHT top eINK display and I'm more productive and in control. I appreciate what Fujifilm has done in the past but think they need to introduce more models with a less retro vibe.
I am originally a film photographer. For me the traditional controls are quicker and more intuitive. I shoot in complete manual and only change aperture and shutter speed on the fly 90% of the time.
I remember having the xe3 and at first I was really into the dials, but when I bought an oly em5 I realised those are just a silly gimmick, and I don''t know why fuji people are in love with this nonsense. Those cameras have great sensors and image quality but the dials are ergonomically inferior to the front/rear dial setup on most modern mirrorless cameras, and there is a reason most manufacturers from Nikon to Sony don't bother putting 3 additional dials on the top plate.
Using the retro dials requires you to release your hands, command dials are right under your fingers; also Cx allows you to have a complete new camera setups at least on c-H2/S
I don't get it. Imho PSAM is far superior to retro controls because of the freely configurable custom modes. With that you can change from e.g. a "tripod setting" (2 second delay timer, IBIS off) to e.g. a monochrome "street art setting" with just one clik on the PSAM dial. Impossible with retro controls!
It depends on your use case. If you shoot photo on tripod, OK. It you shoot also video in studio in controlled environment... The PASM let you save all the settings in one of the custom option... And as you demonstrated, you don't necessarilly need the top dials to take pictures. I have an XT3, I'm thinking of upgrading to XH2 rather than XT5 for this reason (and my use cases).
When using the camera as a hybrid it is troublesome. For video you want to use different shutter speeds then for photo's so the dials can only be applied to one of the modes, with the other mode controlled through the menu, or you keep turning dials all the time.
Hello is it possible with retro sytle dials to go quickly from a portrait settings (Aperture priority+face&eyes detection+Subject tracking AFC+Auto Iso) to animal tracking (S prio+Subject tracking+center metering+Auto Iso) to landscape (A prio+AFS+Single spot AF+Fixed ISO), when it can be done in 1 dial turn with PASM ?
My point is PASM allows to save more settings than Aperture, Shutter Speed and Iso and changing often shooting scenario back and forth can be annoying if it needs more steps than it could with another layout.
Please note I have used both retro (fuji) and pasm (canon), and i do like the retro dials. I am interested to renew my gear but the xh2 line is too expensive for me ahaha.
I'd like PSAM if it was PSAMX where the X setting worked like non PSAM cameras. i.e. pay attention to the "A" setting on the aperture ring, shutter speed, and ISO. no reason a PSAM camera couldn't support both. I hate noticing I want a specific aperture and then rotating the aperture ring only to be ignored and have to change modes.
Very helpful; thanks!
PASM is great when you either can't have multiple dials, or want to operate camera with only one hand and lens with another, and want to basically always have your eyes on a screen.
Retro controls and dedicated switches are great because it is easier to think with them, as they are "implied" and not "defined". (If every dial is set to auto it is implied that you're in full auto. If shutter speed is set to a value, it is implied shutter priority. You don't switch from "aperture priority" to "full manual", you just turn a dial and it is implied. Etc)
I've had my experience with both and i prefer retro, although it is really just a matter of preference, it's rather simple to be proficient in either.
Explained very well and an excellent way to setup your camera.
thanks
I have an XT3 and an Old EM5ii. I just think that the PASM and dual wheels on the Oly is way superior to use in street photography.
Depends tbh. As a XH2 switcher from XT3, my control settings are faster now than before. There's a bunch of reasons. At least with the upcoming XT5 and the XH there's choice.
I just whished they rolled firmware updates to be able to do this on older models.
My X-T2 can do none of it besides the shutter speed thing
10 years ago I'd be completely on board with how you like to use it. Now I just see awkward central locking dials that take up valuable real estate and introduce unnecessary visual clutter. A dedicated top ISO dial is ridiculous now with effective auto ISO controls. Give me a PASM dial on the left, 2-3 assignable control wheels with BIG BRIGHT top eINK display and I'm more productive and in control. I appreciate what Fujifilm has done in the past but think they need to introduce more models with a less retro vibe.
Thanks again 👌📸🥂
I am originally a film photographer. For me the traditional controls are quicker and more intuitive. I shoot in complete manual and only change aperture and shutter speed on the fly 90% of the time.
That's why I bought Fuji I don't want to wade through menus
So the retro dials are better because you can disable them and set your camera to emulate PASM? What?
Great job
I remember having the xe3 and at first I was really into the dials, but when I bought an oly em5 I realised those are just a silly gimmick, and I don''t know why fuji people are in love with this nonsense. Those cameras have great sensors and image quality but the dials are ergonomically inferior to the front/rear dial setup on most modern mirrorless cameras, and there is a reason most manufacturers from Nikon to Sony don't bother putting 3 additional dials on the top plate.
Hear, hear
There are reasons why 99% of photographers use PASM, now if your never in a hurry, fine
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retro control is just faster and superior
Using the retro dials requires you to release your hands, command dials are right under your fingers; also Cx allows you to have a complete new camera setups at least on c-H2/S
They're not better though, lol!
I don't get it. Imho PSAM is far superior to retro controls because of the freely configurable custom modes.
With that you can change from e.g. a "tripod setting" (2 second delay timer, IBIS off) to e.g. a monochrome "street art setting" with just one clik on the PSAM dial. Impossible with retro controls!
If that's how you want to work, then yes, PASM is superior. However, personally I don't like modal user interfaces.
I hate turning the aperture ring and having nothing happen. I don't want to have to change modes to pick a specific aperture.