Pagani Design PD-1673. The "Paganioak" This watch is a bit of a fail, come and see why 😠
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The Pagani Design PD-1673.
An homage to the AP Royal Oak. Is this a successful homage or a missed opportunity?
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No offense but it feels like you didn't realize you were reviewing a $120 version of the Royal Oak which is an integrated bracelet watch, when you complain that you can't swap the bracelet and that it catches the hair on your wrist.
Fair play mate. I think we've all had great watches from Pagani, my Pepsi GMT homage is superb. It's as if Pagani are living off their previous successes, and churning out watches that are substandard. I've moved away from Pagani now, and believe that Steeldive represent great value for money. Another honest video Don, thanks.
Thats exactly it, previous successes that you could forgive little issues due to their low prices. A price a chunk over £100 means expectations change somewhat.
Is there anything worse than a hair ripping bracelet that you can't replace? Yes... a hair ripping bracelet that you can't replace, with a clasp with no micro-adjusts, and end links that are too wide for the case! Thanks for the honest review Dan. Now I can strike the Pagani RO off of my list. The Cadisen is too large for my smallish wrists, so my search for a RO homage continues.
Strike that bugger off the list
yessss finally! So many channels are reduced to sales pitches for new watches. It´s so obvious since they all review the same watches at the same time. Lovely to see you taking a critical view (totally correct btw) on new watches. keep up the great work! This channel has risen so much in the past few years and rightly so!
Thanks Steven! I really don't care if a company doesn't like my opinion. Honesty is the best policy!
Things I have learned when I was a young man, “trying too hard, too quick.” Take note Pagani Design! Thanks for the warning Dan.
Thanks Chris! Great lesson there
@@watchmewithwatches You said it. 😂😂😂
Damn, why couldn't I find your video before I ordered my Pagani 2 weeks ago? Hasn't arrived yet, but I hope, I can overlook the flaws you mentioned when I'm wearing it. Nevertheless: thumbs up for your good review!
Really appreciate the honesty. To be honest I'd prefer a hole in the head to a Royal Oak design, it's not my style, but if I did like it, I'd go for that Cadisen! 👍👍
Spot on commentary Dan. I had not pulled the trigger on the Cadisoak but my son did and I liked the look of it. Then I heard Pagani Design were bringing one to market so I held out. Heard it was quiet a bit more expensive and then I saw it..... Fail!!! So I just ordered a Cadisen (42mm) earlier this week for €66, nearly half the price of the Pagani at €121! Not sure it will be major seller for them.
I thought i would disagree with your review but i somewhat agree , haven't ordered it yet , bracelet is mainly shit on pagani design (hair puller and sharp edges) , i didn't see anyone point out the 2mm off bracelet and even the screws.
Much respect for this totally honest viewpoint & agree ,Pagani seem quick yo up their prices without the inclusion of quality offering with the odd acceptions ,i think they're better off sticking to the sub $80-90 mark until they can , they're a far cry from the San martin's & Cronos of the world , the likes of Steeldive,Heimdllr,addis,cadisen pretty much all the direct competition are at least offering value .
Exactly right regarding the watch you show in this video, but Pagani has now released an upgraded gen2 of this watch, new is among other things the bracelet.
Worth mentioning as many may be watching this video with gen1 before ordering. 😎
Thanks for sharing!
@@watchmewithwatches
It's a nice watch, well worth the cost, especially now in gen2.
Good review of the watch.
Keep up the good work
@@johndjurstedt thanks John. I will try!
Yeah, I’ve had three different Pagani Design homage watches within the last year, having started collecting at the beginning of the first lockdown. I’ve sold them all as I very quickly decided a homage style watch wasn’t for me. I’d rather have something original on my wrist. Having said that I’m really interested in the Steeldive fifty fathoms bronze, so might have to break my rule 😂
I have the Steeldive fifty fathoms bronze - looks lovely but no bronze buckle. You can buy one branded Steeldive separately. I also picked up a silicone waffle strap for it.
Other issue is the bezel movement sounds not quite right.
All that said I love mine and it gets lots of wrist time.
Thanks for the review. I am not a fan of the AP Royal Oak, so, this is even further down the like scale. Enjoy your reviews. Thanks from the other side of the Atlantic!!!
Thanks for watching!
I just ordered a Pagani PD-1673 V2. Maybe it will be more acceptable. I received a Pagani PD-1649 about a week ago and a Steeldive SD 8102 a couple of days back and I'm OK with both of them. I dont seem to look at parts that arnt as good as they could be I suppose. I was realy impressed with the Pagani then more impressed with the Steeldive watch. My watch that I have been wearing and I bought in 2005 is a Seiko Kinetic Auto Relay and its still quite good even though I wore it installing air conditioners in houses. I cant understand why the Seiko Kinetic didnt take off. It keeps perfect time. When I dont wear it for a few days it stops but inside it keeps working and will bounce back to the correct time etc. when I wear it again. It has a capacitor that charges from movement. Great Idea. It was very well made also.
Is it better?
I paid $86. Screw down crown. Received in less than a week. Japan mvmnt. 155gm to my 7.5 wrist. I generally like it. One screw is not like the rest. No big deal. Brushing is spot on. Sapphire front and back.
O.K. so you're an "expert"? I've had this watch for 2 years and think it's wonderful!! Three times I have been asked "how can you afford to buy a Royal Oak"? Three times I've explained that it's a hommage but it still takes them several minutes to accept this until I show them the dial name!! This watch has been excellent value for money and on my 7.5" wrist it is very comfortable (maybe you didn't take the time to properly adjust the sizing?
I'm no expert! Just say it how I see it. Glad you are enjoying your watch. That's good 👍
what a bummer, i found the dial pattern to be pleasing to my eye, but after seeing those strap size & finishing inconsistency, it's pretty much sad
Couldn't agree more bud. If they're upping the price they have to up their game. After all only Seiko's allowed to charge more for less! 😉
Very valid points mate! I think they are seing these reviews and they have decided to fix the bracelet 😁.
At least they are striving to improve
I agree, progress not perfection!
Interesting, most of the other watch channels are scoring the Paganioak watch higher than the Cadisen, although not by much.
That loom reminds me of my Victorinox INOX. That's a 500 buck swiss watch with about the same loom. Glad I got it for waaaay less than that otherwise, I'd have returned it.
I like the Cadisen, it looks alot cleaner. The pagani just looks ruff and the dial looks cheap.
not sure what you are thinking, this is a great watch...
Its all just opinions backed by opinions really! lol
I agree with all your findings, "excellent documentation".
Thank you sir!
Pagani was the go to affordable watch in 2020 ,now they seriously need to up their game and stay affordable ,there's far more higher competition in the same market from Steeldive Heimdallah however its spelt taking the 2021 market.
Owh, that eyes.. Mesmerized
Hmmm not often pagani design doesn't completely copy the designs. Bracelet is different and the bezel shape is a little different too. They should really work on their lume as for what i know BGW9 in their current price points is not impossible
It's a shame that this watch has is badly finished and has some unrefined features such as the badly fitted bracelet. Sizewise it's one of the very few watches wearable on a slightly smaller than average wrist. The Cadisen may be better finished but even the 42 mm version is significantly bigger than tbe Pagani Design. Its a missed opportunity and way to expensive for what's on offer here. You worked this out well in the review! Cheers Dan!
They also rushed out the BB58 homage but I'm glad to say they fixed the issues found by reviewers on that one, hopefully, they'll do the same with this. Holding off from buying it for now... thanks for the video, glad I watched it 👍🏼
Shame they release watches that need work and upgrades. Rips off the existing buyers (me)
@@watchmewithwatches Yes that's the downside for sure. Be good if they got them right the first time around...
Nice review 👍 I’ve ordered myself PG 1693 2 pairs and they are great, but after watching your review I won’t be buying Royal Oak
poor for the price thanks for giving an honest review and not just the sales pitch a lot of reviewers are doing at present Pagani are just so inconsistent on quality either fantastic or poor i have the cadison its better and cheaper
They’ve put out a V2 and fixed the bracelet. The bezel is also a bit different. I’d still skip this one in favor of the cadisen or the chronograph version
Thanks for the video- I too took a chance on this one and am still waiting for it to deliver and you've confirmed what I thought I saw in the pictures and demo video about the bracelet link being too oversized. I'm hoping that my OCD will not actually notice it in the person. But, I now have the Rotary Regent on its way too (taking its cues from more of Genta's PP Nautilus inspiration rather than the AP style) and online it looks like Rotary may have gotten the bracelet right. So far the biggest niggle online about the Regent is simply using the Miyota 812A while charging the hefty price. So I hope they did get the bracelet right and it's not their version of a cash grab! From what you point out in your review validates what I thought I was seeing about the Pagani bracelet so I guess that means I might be returning or selling my Pagani before it even arrives! Thanks for the review!
at some point I think they originally wanted to build a 42 mm case, but due to some reason they change it to 40 mm case...that's why bracelet doesn't fit with the case. Poor move pagani
Finally an honest reviewer. Thanks, subscribed
Overall of PD 1673 was made me decide to buy it in the suitable price. (88$)
This watch is really beautiful
I don't know what the gripe is with lume on these? Personally, the only thing I care about less than lume is the Eurovision song contest. This watch not a diver, it'll never be used as such. And have you ever handled a mid-tier Swatch group watch? Watches costing an order of magnitude more have worse lume than this. I don't understand why they don't just do away with it altogether.
I agree, either do it a bit better or not at all!
You are seriously funny! Loved the video mate
Thanks mate!
Crown is not accurate copy
The dial isn't Lazer etched it's done from a mold! Each one is injected under pressure creating the design. Yeah, that large first link is a huge fail. Their newer Chrono version with the VK63 looks a lot better. If you want these styles you're better off with a Cadisen! Much better brushing.
I agree, the mecaquartz chrono looks very nice. Im glad they updated this watch, shame they didn't get it right in the first place!
A very fair review, there is no way anyone could overlook the obvious mismatch with the bracelet!
Great review 👍
Thanks a lot for being honest!
Ugh ya, you can't unsee that band size flaw. 😑
It was an honest appraisal, brutal but real, appreciate the vid man, looking forward to the next one
Pagani can't afford the rise in their prices for too long. Their QC issues are far too many to survive because the value for price they once enjoyed is horribly unsubstantiated now. There is always at least one problem, and for myself one others, that's one too many. It's a shame because Pagani Design at least had their branding on point that set them apart from others. I could wear a PD on my wrist and not feel awkward like I was wearing a watch from a bubble gum machine.
Now you've got to blow it out on ebay !
quite fancied one of these, but youve just pissed on my chips 😂 ... in a good way
and what is it with the chinese and lume, ive got a 60 year old pocket watch which still has better lume than this.
San Martin is Chinese- they’ve got the lume thing down!
Just can’t expect Pagani Designs to be a San Martin!!!
I know! Their prices are creeping up to it, but the quality doesn't warrant it. Steeldive do it better for the same or even less.
@@watchmewithwatches Agreed - I’m liking Steel Dive lately! Recently bought the 1940 pilot watch...liked it so much, bought the bronze version too.
Specks for the money are amazing!
Dude you overpayed. I spent only 60 quid for it
True, but I bought it when it just came out, then the prices drop over time for sure!
great video , think i'll pass on this watch . luv your laid back reviews
Thanks for watching David
Great review Dan.
Thanks mate!
it's fucking ugly, having said that i don't like any AP designed watches.
You made my day with all that complaints 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
GOD BLESS YOU
To bad about the bracelet. All the other things a can overlook but not the bracelet being to wide. Nice one but i will pass on this model.
The Cadisen is certainly a lot cheaper, I think I got it for £53 in the 11/11 sale, but the bracelet is frankly dangerous! I'll take the occasional hair pull over falling asleep with it on and waking up looking like you self harm!
Oh dear! It's the new self harm edition. "Hate yourself? Come and get this new special edition for only £53"
Ps. I wish no harm to anyone, and hope everyone is safe and happy.
I must agree ... sad.
I'm sure many will be happy with this watch, but the snags are worth sharing.
Too bad Cadisen doesn't have a 40 mm version
I agree
dont really understand why people complain about poor lume on a cheap watch, what did you expect? lol
I know what you mean. It's the fact the prices have risen so sharply over the last year, and certain spec upgrades (the lume for example) haven't been improved along the way! And knowing a steeldive watch for just over £100 has better lume etc! The willard homage for example.
Lol. the Cadisen bracelet is a piece of crap, it's much MUCH rougher than the Pagani, the screws on the bezel are as far removed from the original as the Pagani so a moot point. The lug-to-lug distance on the Cadisen would not, by any means, fit, let alone 'fit well' on any wrist smaller than 7 inches, I have a 71/2" wrist and it 'just' fits me. The brushing on the case of the Cadisen is as rough as the skin on my nuts. I bought the Cadisen first and was disappointed so I ordered the Pagani (at around US$100 so not sure where you purchased yours from at that price). The Pagani is a marginally better watch, not much BUT better so maybe you should have stuck to talking about the Pagani and not make comparisons with the Cadisen and prompt people to but that instead as it is a 'much better' watch, IT ISN'T.
You have made some fair points, thank you. I always give my opinions clearly, but people should understand its only my opinion and not everybody's! Im sure many will disagree as well as agree with me and thats totally normal. Many thanks. Dan.
@@watchmewithwatches totally understand about the subjective nature of opinions, my girlfriend disagrees with me about the roughness of my nutsack so there we go.
paganioak? what about "paganoak"
Pagani design is crap! Too much hype and they dare to charge those prices....ridiculous.
It's getting that way.
Dead right Crap