I cried so much watching this because I know God gave me this video and it’s exactly what I’ve been going through. I don’t come from ministry but God called me to it and I went to Bible school at a mega church and have been interning there. I was so naive and saw all types of evil behind the scenes. I’ve been so heartbroken. Feeling so used and abused for gifts and anointing. But I feel hope after I watched this. God can give me true family in the faith and can use my voice concerning these issues also. Thank you for talking about these things and sharing your own story♥️🙏🏾
When Jessica mentioned those “friends” whose intentions were not real or loyal, it reminded me of the pain we have endured from those people in ministry leadership who saw our family as their competition. They intentionally sabotaged our influence & our mission there through lies & slander. Our family moved in faith, across the country, to do something with God. Instead, we were crushed. Thankful for the wine & the oil. That comes through the crushing. But, so ready to look for our tribe to do life with. Ready for families of Believers who want to learn to love well while doing ministry together. No more power hungry wolves in sheep’s clothing. Beautiful talk. Thx guys.
True friendship is such a blessing. I don't have any friends (aside from my husband) so I've had to walk through so many seasons of life without any support at all and it's been so difficult, let me tell you. Doing life alone is hard.
@@babycoleangel Isn't it?! I have 3 kids... I had to go through baby stage, toddler stage, child stage and now currently tween and teen stage with barely any help/advice/support etc...Even support from family has been almost non-existent 😮💨 and this teens stage has been super confusing and hard, I feel like a complete failure as a mom and have no one to talk or get support from, just going through it all alone. Again.
It's such a blessing to have two wise women of the Lord speak the insight and truth of Jesus Christ. It's been such a blessing for young people and I to have people of God speak and teach what he wants.
This is so beautiful. I don't believe that the weight of what a friend is according to what God intends it to be, is honored in the church a lot of times. It's messy and painful. The pain almost drives you from the church, it really does 😭😭.I've felt more like I've been tolerated by people that I thought more of them.
This is so refreshing. It’s a honor to be in full time ministry, but finding true and genuine friends where I can actually be vulnerable is a challenge and very disheartening. Just finding people who want to be friends outside of the day to day ministry experience is not easy. I am excited for the future of meeting my new friends in the presence of God, like you said. I want that. I am believing for that. Thank you for sharing. Sooo good. Solid wisdom. Looking forward to establishing some covenant relationships from the Lord!
Thank you both for letting us into this conversation. It’s truly precious to hear you two articulate what friendship and covenant looks like. It’s so my heart to be and find loyal friends like this and to hear you two confirm it is good and possible gives me hope. Bless you both
Wow! Thank you ladies for REAL talk, it was much needed. My husband and I do not come from families that have really been in ministry, but my experience serving in different ministries felt like there was so much competition in the church at times. The depth and honesty of your friendship that you share is rare, treasure it. Sending much love ❤.
Trust me I’m always watching and can say this with my chest , you can feel the purity of their relationship through the screens , along with pastor Micheal, thank you Jess for starting this channel. It’s truly an honour to see people that have been burning for the Lord for a while IN TRUTH, it really makes you want Him more🥺🫂
Fake has never been so present as now in all history of mankind, and it’s getting much worse. Thank God for you ladies! Keep sharing this FULL Truth in Jesus name 🔥🕊️
Ugh, thank you so much for such raw, genuine, and refreshing content. So encouraging. Makes me want to pursue closer friendships. Crazy how I'm learning to be more intentional and an older age. Wish I knew it before. Back thank you Jesus either way.😅
❤❤❤❤ again thank you I needed your talk soooo much! And needed this reminder about Christian and intentional friendships and relationships. I found The Jesus Image by searching for Christian music and found Steffany’s videos and understanding where you are coming from helps. I could say more but really thank you!
This was wonderful. The Lord brought beautiful anointed, covenant friendships to us and we are so grateful. It's a beautiful treasure to have. Everything you said resonated with me ❤
Thank you very much Pastor Jessica and Minister Steffany for sharing this much needed discussion on friendship loyalty. I'm looking forward to hearing part 2 of this topic!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you for being so real and so descriptive of the battle in the church! It’s so wonderful to finally receive love and be fulfilled by Jesus’s love! You display it so beautifully!
Wow! Love you both so much, thank you for this podcast and what you are doing. All glory to Jesus. God bless you Pastor Jessica. I look forward to part 2.
Such a worth watching podcast! Having such loyal, genuine Jesus loving friends is truly a blessing! So precious to listen to these amazing Jesus lovers! Blessings from Pakistan
Thank you Jesus for these 2 amazing women that share their love for You with us in such an authentic and refreshing way. What an inspiration! So grateful for you 2❤
Oh my Word, you have a Podcast! Sooooooooooooooo happy, excited and I honour you Pastor Jessica. You are a gift to the Body and Christ, Pastor Michael too (and Steffani) and you have some beautiful precious things to say to us and I am fully subscribed *hugs*. So proud of you!!! 🤗🤗🤗🕊💛✝️💛💛❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Very helpful for me. Have been trying to figure out what feels off about a certain situation in ministry and I realize it’s that competitive spirit that I keep running up against and sometimes feel myself operating in. Thank you.
Totally the Spirit that you guys had this conversation because I've been praying heavily and having many conversations about this.. I'm a women's ministry leader and I feel conflicted with needing to have a relationship with everyone, but also then feeling like I have a bunch of one sided/superficial relationships.... This is a great topic and definitely something im reflecting a lot on during this season!
Thank you for this because it opened my eyes on a lot i was praying for godly relationships and i almost ruined the friendship that was God -ordained to go after a superficial one as you spoke God was opening my eyes and revealing to me about this new friendship that he has blessed me with and I am so grateful after having so much friendship trauma in the past . I can not wait for part 2 thank you.
What a cliffhanger!!! So much wisdom. Love that you’re talking about this. Loyalty is so important and not talked about enough. Also, thank you for being so real. Can’t wait for the next one. 💕
I love to hear both of you the openess, you know I believe that revival will start when the church becomes transparent. I begun to confess my problems and secrets with my spiritual mother she never condemned me it has helped me a lot it helps me also to trust her more, but it also cleaned up my heart my heart was so broken full of hate, anger, envy and frustration but now the Lord has set my heart free.
You both seem like gals I’d love to cultivate relationship with! This talk is touching me so deeply. Thank you for sharing and showing that people in “famous-ministry” can be Real and Genuine❣️❣️❣️ I appreciate the example you are setting!!! Looking forward to part 2!!!!!
Aww so beautiful, thank you. I remember many, many years ago, not having many real friends, asking the Lord about it. He said "you must be a friend to make friends. I was a very rejected person and was aware of my heart etc. but I stepped out more and have a few loyal friends. In ministry though, well that has been very hard. I get what you are saying. Lovely to hear your hearts. 🤗❤️
I absolutely love this podcast ❤ Just a little friendly feedback, I wish you'd let Steff talk a little more. I love you and love what you have to offer, but when I see you interviewing Steffany, my hope is to hear Steffany. It felt like a Jessica Kulionos interview to me. Again love what you're doing, just a little friendly feedback 🫶
Thank you for your feedback! As stated to start these episodes, Steffany and Jess are close friends and this was an invitation into their normal table conversation. In general, these podcast episodes will lean towards conversations instead of interviews, depending on the guest. Ultimately, the goal is for Jessica to share in conversations that lead people to Jesus, and we hope that’s the main take away after listening. We hope you enjoy the rest of the season! - JK Team
So beautiful. Love the beauty of being authentic, not perfect. Would appreciate the name of the book Stephanie mentioned. Is it call the prayer and by who?
Most our hearts need to be healed from fake relationships in ministry!
We must give this to Jesus. It isn’t something we can do on our own.
My husband and I have been praying for Godly friendship. Authentic . True. Intentional friendships
My husband and I, as well.
Amen, Same...let's ALL BE IN AGREEMENT 🙏🏼❤
Amen!! We are as well, so hard to find!
8:22 "You wanna be there, you wanna see Jesus and you wanna be with the ones you love in His Presence"
Beautiful ❤️
I cried so much watching this because I know God gave me this video and it’s exactly what I’ve been going through. I don’t come from ministry but God called me to it and I went to Bible school at a mega church and have been interning there. I was so naive and saw all types of evil behind the scenes. I’ve been so heartbroken. Feeling so used and abused for gifts and anointing. But I feel hope after I watched this. God can give me true family in the faith and can use my voice concerning these issues also. Thank you for talking about these things and sharing your own story♥️🙏🏾
When Jessica mentioned those “friends” whose intentions were not real or loyal, it reminded me of the pain we have endured from those people in ministry leadership who saw our family as their competition. They intentionally sabotaged our influence & our mission there through lies & slander. Our family moved in faith, across the country, to do something with God. Instead, we were crushed. Thankful for the wine & the oil. That comes through the crushing. But, so ready to look for our tribe to do life with. Ready for families of Believers who want to learn to love well while doing ministry together. No more power hungry wolves in sheep’s clothing. Beautiful talk. Thx guys.
Take heart precious saints
I’ve been praying for deep Godly friendships. God will answer 🙏🏿
True friendship is such a blessing. I don't have any friends (aside from my husband) so I've had to walk through so many seasons of life without any support at all and it's been so difficult, let me tell you. Doing life alone is hard.
that is hard. praying for deep friendships, Michelle!
Sounds like me....sooo hard!
@@babycoleangel Isn't it?!
I have 3 kids... I had to go through baby stage, toddler stage, child stage and now currently tween and teen stage with barely any help/advice/support etc...Even support from family has been almost non-existent 😮💨 and this teens stage has been super confusing and hard, I feel like a complete failure as a mom and have no one to talk or get support from, just going through it all alone. Again.
This is so helpful. We don’t have to say “yes” to everyone or everything. The guilt can be real but there is no condemnation in Christ…
Thank you for sitting down to share this. It’s helping to heal places I didn’t know were still there.🥺❤️
It's such a blessing to have two wise women of the Lord speak the insight and truth of Jesus Christ.
It's been such a blessing for young people and I to have people of God speak and teach what he wants.
Amen to finding our SECURITY AND FULFILLMENT in Jesus!!! 🙌🙌
Friendship is such an underrated love! I’m so glad you guys display it with grace ❤
This is so beautiful. I don't believe that the weight of what a friend is according to what God intends it to be, is honored in the church a lot of times. It's messy and painful. The pain almost drives you from the church, it really does 😭😭.I've felt more like I've been tolerated by people that I thought more of them.
This is so refreshing. It’s a honor to be in full time ministry, but finding true and genuine friends where I can actually be vulnerable is a challenge and very disheartening. Just finding people who want to be friends outside of the day to day ministry experience is not easy. I am excited for the future of meeting my new friends in the presence of God, like you said. I want that. I am believing for that. Thank you for sharing. Sooo good. Solid wisdom. Looking forward to establishing some covenant relationships from the Lord!
This is so healing, so pure, so beautiful 😭🤍
Thank you Jessica for such deep authentic honesty…the naked truth.
THIS IS PURE GOLD! Thank you for pouring this wisdom from the Lord to us ❤
Pt 2 with steff pleaseee!!! This was soooo Good :)
Whoaaa, there’s more than enough Jesus to go around, if you aren’t getting what you need it’s a receptor issue. 🙌🏼🔥
Thank you both for letting us into this conversation. It’s truly precious to hear you two articulate what friendship and covenant looks like. It’s so my heart to be and find loyal friends like this and to hear you two confirm it is good and possible gives me hope. Bless you both
I love this, please have Steffany come back this wasn't long enough, can't wait for pt 2 ☺️
Love this! Makes me realize I need to run everything by Jesus way more.
Omg this is so amazing I have been praying to God to give me a genuine friend ❤❤
Been praying for a genuine relationship a friends who’s intentional walking with Jesus…
Wow! Thank you ladies for REAL talk, it was much needed. My husband and I do not come from families that have really been in ministry, but my experience serving in different ministries felt like there was so much competition in the church at times. The depth and honesty of your friendship that you share is rare, treasure it. Sending much love ❤.
Trust me I’m always watching and can say this with my chest , you can feel the purity of their relationship through the screens , along with pastor Micheal, thank you Jess for starting this channel. It’s truly an honour to see people that have been burning for the Lord for a while IN TRUTH, it really makes you want Him more🥺🫂
Thanks for being open and honest. Thanks for all you do for the Kingdom of God. God works all things out. Hugs
Fake has never been so present as now in all history of mankind, and it’s getting much worse.
Thank God for you ladies! Keep sharing this FULL Truth in Jesus name 🔥🕊️
Ugh, thank you so much for such raw, genuine, and refreshing content. So encouraging. Makes me want to pursue closer friendships. Crazy how I'm learning to be more intentional and an older age. Wish I knew it before. Back thank you Jesus either way.😅
❤❤❤❤ again thank you I needed your talk soooo much! And needed this reminder about Christian and intentional friendships and relationships. I found The Jesus Image by searching for Christian music and found Steffany’s videos and understanding where you are coming from helps. I could say more but really thank you!
This was wonderful. The Lord brought beautiful anointed, covenant friendships to us and we are so grateful. It's a beautiful treasure to have. Everything you said resonated with me ❤
This is amazing! Thank you for being so real and sharing on such a needed topic! Can’t wait for part 2!
Thank you for all of the truth, direction, and for the reverence that you both have for the Lord. ❤
Love you ladies! You both provoke me to love Jesus more. Thank you!❤❤❤
Such an open and honest conversation thanks for sharing and a good reminder on what are covenant friendship & what they cost!
So powerful and loved this episode. Thanks for sharing this gives me hope. Been praying for quality friendships as well.
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Love it
Loyalty is a good topic to touch when it comes to friendship
I long for deep, connected relationships like they’re talking about!!! 🙏🏽👆🏼🙏🏽👆🏼💖
Excited for part two. This is such a beautiful conversation to experience. Thank you sisters for your wisdom and love! God bless you 💗
I am loving this and two pure hearted ❤ sisters at that.
This is so good!!!!! Yes!!! This is an answered prayer for I desire true friendship!!!!
True friendship is rare... Thank you for sharing in all honesty and gentleness about this topic ❤❤🙏🏽🙏🏽🔥
Thank you very much Pastor Jessica and Minister Steffany for sharing this much needed discussion on friendship loyalty. I'm looking forward to hearing part 2 of this topic!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you both so much for speaking on this ♡♡♡ thank you Lord
This blessed my heart and helped me to know what to do better!
I have been so looking forward for this episode... ❤
Jesus teach us how to be good friends !
This was very insightful. Ready for Part 2!
Thank you for being so real and so descriptive of the battle in the church! It’s so wonderful to finally receive love and be fulfilled by Jesus’s love! You display it so beautifully!
Wow! Love you both so much, thank you for this podcast and what you are doing. All glory to Jesus. God bless you Pastor Jessica. I look forward to part 2.
Been praying for a godly friendship genuine and real but most of all, has desire to have a deeper relationship with him
I LOVE these conversations. So much honesty and transparency 🙏🏼
Thank you SO SO SO SO MUCH for sharing this with us.
LOVE this!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ Yes! Yes! Yes! 2 women of God speaking REAL truth ❤️
Stefany is so special to the body of Crist. Thank you Lord
Such a worth watching podcast! Having such loyal, genuine Jesus loving friends is truly a blessing! So precious to listen to these amazing Jesus lovers! Blessings from Pakistan
Thank you Jesus for these 2 amazing women that share their love for You with us in such an authentic and refreshing way. What an inspiration! So grateful for you 2❤
Oh my Word, you have a Podcast! Sooooooooooooooo happy, excited and I honour you Pastor Jessica. You are a gift to the Body and Christ, Pastor Michael too (and Steffani) and you have some beautiful precious things to say to us and I am fully subscribed *hugs*. So proud of you!!! 🤗🤗🤗🕊💛✝️💛💛❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
Very helpful for me. Have been trying to figure out what feels off about a certain situation in ministry and I realize it’s that competitive spirit that I keep running up against and sometimes feel myself operating in. Thank you.
This is so good! My mind is being renewed 🙌🏾
Totally the Spirit that you guys had this conversation because I've been praying heavily and having many conversations about this.. I'm a women's ministry leader and I feel conflicted with needing to have a relationship with everyone, but also then feeling like I have a bunch of one sided/superficial relationships.... This is a great topic and definitely something im reflecting a lot on during this season!
Thank you for this because it opened my eyes on a lot i was praying for godly relationships and i almost ruined the friendship that was God -ordained to go after a superficial one as you spoke God was opening my eyes and revealing to me about this new friendship that he has blessed me with and I am so grateful after having so much friendship trauma in the past . I can not wait for part 2 thank you.
What a cliffhanger!!! So much wisdom. Love that you’re talking about this. Loyalty is so important and not talked about enough. Also, thank you for being so real. Can’t wait for the next one. 💕
Jessica and Steff...gotta love it 🥰
I love to hear both of you the openess, you know I believe that revival will start when the church becomes transparent. I begun to confess my problems and secrets with my spiritual mother she never condemned me it has helped me a lot it helps me also to trust her more, but it also cleaned up my heart my heart was so broken full of hate, anger, envy and frustration but now the Lord has set my heart free.
You both seem like gals I’d love to cultivate relationship with! This talk is touching me so deeply. Thank you for sharing and showing that people in “famous-ministry” can be Real and Genuine❣️❣️❣️
I appreciate the example you are setting!!! Looking forward to part 2!!!!!
So interesting and has spiritual depth this, thank you
Watching from South Africa. Cape Town
EXCITED FOR THE PART TWO!! Thank you
Jess! Haha! This was a treat! Thank you and Yes PART 2
Love this and every episode, so good. ❤❤❤
Looking forward to many many more hours of this conversation lol ❤
It is so lovely to see you both on this amazing podcast. Waiting for part 2. Love from United Kingdom
Aww so beautiful, thank you. I remember many, many years ago, not having many real friends, asking the Lord about it. He said "you must be a friend to make friends. I was a very rejected person and was aware of my heart etc. but I stepped out more and have a few loyal friends. In ministry though, well that has been very hard. I get what you are saying. Lovely to hear your hearts. 🤗❤️
Beautiful love the friendship
So encouraging! I was so blessed watching this ❤
Lieve zusters het is belangrijk dat je samen kunnen praten over het geloof en hoop en liefde ❤❤❤AMEN ❤
Ladies, thanks for this! 🙏🏼
This was soo insightful. Can't wait for part 2!
That is very powerful… who you say yes to.
Wat schattig samen praten over alles gezellig samen gegeten Wat mooie en lieve ❤
i am so grateful to be learning from both of you !
Can't wait to watch the next ❤
Love this so much! 🫶🏼
Watching from NAMIBIA,was looking forward for this❤
Watching from Namibia too ❤
So real. ❤❤❤❤
I'm learning can't wait for part 2
I pray for such a friend. 🙏🏽
Wow! This was so good 🙏 thank you for sharing ❤️
I absolutely love this podcast ❤ Just a little friendly feedback, I wish you'd let Steff talk a little more. I love you and love what you have to offer, but when I see you interviewing Steffany, my hope is to hear Steffany. It felt like a Jessica Kulionos interview to me. Again love what you're doing, just a little friendly feedback 🫶
Thank you for your feedback! As stated to start these episodes, Steffany and Jess are close friends and this was an invitation into their normal table conversation. In general, these podcast episodes will lean towards conversations instead of interviews, depending on the guest. Ultimately, the goal is for Jessica to share in conversations that lead people to Jesus, and we hope that’s the main take away after listening. We hope you enjoy the rest of the season! - JK Team
@JessKoulianos Okay that makes sense. Love that❤️ Thanks for all you're doing, already loving these podcasts 🫶
That was really good! I'd been alright if ya'll kept talking too!
10:32 yesssss
So beautiful. Love the beauty of being authentic, not perfect. Would appreciate the name of the book Stephanie mentioned. Is it call the prayer and by who?
I love it!!
Alguém legenda em português please 😢
I love you both
After part 2 make 3 &4 lol🔥
❤️❤️❤️!!!
This was lovely. Could someone tell me where to get the Crown of Thorns behind Jessica ?
amen