I was 19 with NO MONEY! - Marvin Musquin EXPOSES Honda Team for Suing him...

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
  • Marvin Musquin shares insane stories from the first years racing in MXGP and how a Honda Team Sued him for switching to Red Bull KTM mid season.
    French Supercross legend Marvin Musquin joins the podcast today to talk everything from being retired from Supercross to being sued while winning his first World Title. Marvin is not only a French Motocross and Supercross icon, but he is also one of the nicest guys in the sport.
    We also talk about about growing up in France, his rough start to his World Championship career in MXGP, winning multiple world titles, his dream of moving to the US to race Supercross, winning an MXON at home in France, his close title races in both outdoors and supercross and much much more.
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Комментарии • 139

  • @HerbieHinde
    @HerbieHinde 4 месяца назад +81

    His English is great! Wish we could see him line up outdoors, marv was so fun to watch especially when he was going full blast

    • @zwtvchannel
      @zwtvchannel 4 месяца назад

      What’s the go with him now? He still racing or has he hung it up?

    • @HerbieHinde
      @HerbieHinde 4 месяца назад

      @@zwtvchannel retired

    • @gunnar1797
      @gunnar1797 4 месяца назад

      Interesting that his English makes you wanna see him race 🤣

  • @rodymonster
    @rodymonster 4 месяца назад +45

    Man, I bumped on to this kid at Daytona 2018 while he was out riding a scooter, and he was the NICEST most genuine pro I have ever spoken with. watching this interview makes me realize more who he is and where he comes from and now it make even more sense to me, Marv's a cool dude.

  • @tcolley
    @tcolley 4 месяца назад +150

    So they couldn’t pay him to ride but they could pay an attorney to sue him?

    • @mikeandrews1899
      @mikeandrews1899 4 месяца назад +11

      A lot of attorneys will work for no upfront money and a percentage of the take

    • @Kawiboy
      @Kawiboy 4 месяца назад +9

      Shameful

    • @mikeandrews1899
      @mikeandrews1899 4 месяца назад

      @@Kawiboy true ......money brings that out in everybody

    • @Yeearight
      @Yeearight 4 месяца назад +2

      Usually in business you pay a fee up front at the beginning of the year and that covers you for a part of the year or until you reach a certain point.

    • @adambauman8044
      @adambauman8044 4 месяца назад +6

      Not just couldn't pay him, they couldn't afford to race at all. I suppose he signed a contact with honda and that's how they got their money but that contract should be void if they can't afford to race.

  • @actionjackson8549
    @actionjackson8549 4 месяца назад +27

    Just had Marv come out to a Moto Academy Class. He was incredible with the students. such a genuine guy.

  • @patrickhackett3878
    @patrickhackett3878 4 месяца назад +33

    To meet him in person, he didn't strike me as a professional athlete. A true gentleman.

    • @Familytube90
      @Familytube90 4 месяца назад

      @@ScottR-ly2roI laugh when I see people say that too: dude most of them are very normal dudes

    • @DonGH297
      @DonGH297 4 месяца назад +2

      @@ScottR-ly2ro he meant it well? It’s like Marvin is so genuine and nice that you wouldn’t think he’s a big “star” and when you look at him most people won’t think he’s a pro rider. I think that’s even cooler when he swings his leg over a dirtbike and show everyone who he really is lol

  • @blizzyblake5347
    @blizzyblake5347 4 месяца назад +22

    So rad to see this side of Marvin, such a great guy and one hell of a story! Props to you Marv 🤘🏼

  • @bradwhitworth5204
    @bradwhitworth5204 4 месяца назад +4

    I was a Sx photographer for 10 yrs and Marvin was my favorite. He always took time out for a photo and a chat. Total class act! 👊👍

  • @BoostedMotorsports
    @BoostedMotorsports 4 месяца назад +22

    This interview is bringing out a cool side of Marvin we’ve never seen! I like him more than before!

  • @steveperkins223
    @steveperkins223 4 месяца назад +9

    At the Oakland Supercross, 2022 he was the nicest rider to sign autographs and take pictures with my family ,we’ve always loved watching him race! one of our favorites for sure!!! 👍 👍

  • @SYNCROORG
    @SYNCROORG 4 месяца назад +10

    Fascinating interview. Excellent work. Marvin is a great guy. Thanks for this.

  • @justuandmebb
    @justuandmebb 4 месяца назад +52

    Marvin is a class act

  • @DonGH297
    @DonGH297 4 месяца назад +7

    Man this makes me respect Marvin even more! Living of price money from the french championships while racing the gp’s.. Not getting paid by your team, and being sued😮 Those guys should be ashamed, they did not treat him well and basically used him. Imagine how hungry he was to become world champion!

  • @jimrhea5484
    @jimrhea5484 4 месяца назад +3

    That's rough. It's not the first time someone from another country comes over and catches crap just cause. Marvin has always been a respectful rider. It's embarrassing how he got treated. Ty for the vid.

  • @gotmoto
    @gotmoto 4 месяца назад +32

    11:59 I’m sure I’m not the only one who had to listen to it 10 times to figure out what he said so .. ‘negotiate’ lol

    • @DerekFoulk
      @DerekFoulk 4 месяца назад +4

      I DEFINITELY heard something much less appropriate than that! I about spit my drink out.

    • @chriscarr6313
      @chriscarr6313 4 месяца назад +1

      I literally just heard him try to say negotiate and thought I heard something else with his accent. lol
      Besides that one word he has really good English. But that did catch me off guard a bit. lol

    • @Homeboy174
      @Homeboy174 4 месяца назад +1

      I had to turn on cc to figure it out.

    • @wickedgrafix
      @wickedgrafix 4 месяца назад

      Lol, that caught me off guard, too. I played it back one more time and heard "negotiate." Kinda laughed and went "whew" thank God I heard wrong!

    • @Priappe
      @Priappe 4 месяца назад

      @@DerekFoulk I m french, ofc we got the same accent so it didn't strike me at all but I'm curious, what did you heard ? Many (English) native language people in the comments apparently heard same as you.
      Just curious thx !

  • @xS.B.FEINx269
    @xS.B.FEINx269 4 месяца назад +2

    This is prime example,people from struggle are 100% more humble have more fight than someone that has everything given to them. Or I just appreciate those kind of people more. What an awesome dude watched him for so many years.

  • @motomatt6752
    @motomatt6752 4 месяца назад +10

    It’s hard not to be a Marvin fan great man great racer

  • @ryanoborn602
    @ryanoborn602 4 месяца назад +1

    You do the best interviews hands down. Marv, what a genuine guy. Interesting to learn about the back stories to careers.

  • @MarcSherwood
    @MarcSherwood 4 месяца назад +1

    What a great interview. I always loved the way Marv rode, but have not seen an interview like this with him to learn more about who he is as a person.

  • @justinfee819
    @justinfee819 4 месяца назад +1

    This was an awesome story the crazy thing is if these kinds of stories would get out when a guy like Marv comes over here to race I think he would get more respect and be more popular he was always a beast when he was racing and this podcast maybe the best thing to happen to this sport these guys have needed a platform so we fans can get to know these guys so thanks and keep grinding.

  • @jepjona
    @jepjona 4 месяца назад +1

    Really cool to see an interview with Marv. I gained a bunch of respect for him.

  • @zacharywilliams2354
    @zacharywilliams2354 4 месяца назад +1

    Marvin is such a good speaker. One of the better podcasts in my opinion!

  • @LeBigUSAdotcom
    @LeBigUSAdotcom 4 месяца назад +6

    Such a great interview! Good job!

  • @andrewstrouth2211
    @andrewstrouth2211 4 месяца назад +6

    Never was a big fan of Marv, always seen him as the French Dude in Talladega Nights. But after listening to this, i wish he was still racing so i could pull for him a little bit!

  • @noonespecial1217
    @noonespecial1217 4 месяца назад +2

    What a crazzzzzy story dude! Way to stick it to the man Marv😆
    Great interview Gypsy. The Cianciarulo interview was dope too. That kid will call a Super Bowl one day yo!

  • @scottbrown8142
    @scottbrown8142 4 месяца назад +2

    His English has really improved , awesome dude. One of my favorite guys

  • @torpedocyclonetom217
    @torpedocyclonetom217 4 месяца назад +1

    Thank u gypsy for havin this guy on

  • @MXRiderFiftyTwo
    @MXRiderFiftyTwo 4 месяца назад +3

    A very humble person

  • @echidna1263
    @echidna1263 4 месяца назад +2

    How could you not love and respect him. Still remember the Sx race he lead to the final laps and James Stewart got in the way as a lapper, and Dungy beat him. Felt so bad for him.

  • @moto3463
    @moto3463 4 месяца назад +3

    Always liked Marvs personality. And style on a bike is perfect.

  • @pberry351
    @pberry351 4 месяца назад +1

    Was never a fan of Marv but after watching his interview, he has my full respect. He is a. Lass act

  • @davesnot_here2091
    @davesnot_here2091 4 месяца назад +1

    Love Marv..followed him for years...Wish he was still riding in the AMA..

  • @michaeldill7620
    @michaeldill7620 4 месяца назад +3

    Damn. What an amazing guy.. great to hear his story. Stay on the train brother!!🤘🏿👍🏾🤩😇

  • @thespeedracer5772
    @thespeedracer5772 4 месяца назад

    Marvin's one of the coolest, down to earth cats to ever do it. He's also one of the smoothest, most technically talented racers ever...who immediately made the sport more exciting.
    Good to see things are going well and the body is in one piece... Great interview too.

  • @131601
    @131601 4 месяца назад +1

    Beautiful riding style, beautiful person. Best wishes to Marv and Matil !

  • @idealrenovationsllc
    @idealrenovationsllc 4 месяца назад

    Marv is such a good guy! This makes me respect him and his life so much more.

  • @torpedocyclonetom217
    @torpedocyclonetom217 4 месяца назад +1

    I really do love Marvin.
    He was such a heel in the series, but so damn essential in the continuation of the sports growth for that reason. constantly in the championship hunt, race winner and top performer.
    Sucked to see him retire.
    I’ve been a Tomac fan since he started and all I think about is when he took him out in foxborough I think? Only time I was actually upset at the guy.
    But true man. Real f’n guy and I hope he sticks around in the sport to inspire all euro riders to chase their dreams in the US

  • @johnstaring3210
    @johnstaring3210 4 месяца назад

    Great interview. For those who have been involved in motorsport, and it seems motorcycling in particular, these sorts of stories are not new. The majority of major manufacturers give absolutely no loyalty back to riders who bring them glory, and in some cases it falls back onto the team owners themselves also. Contracts are worthless to a rider if the team/manufacturer leaves them virtually destitute at seasons end, knowing the rider is too broke to sue them for outstandings.

  • @todddooley793
    @todddooley793 4 месяца назад

    It was a pleasure watching Marv race, glad he chose to come to the U.S.

  • @yamagrow420
    @yamagrow420 4 месяца назад +4

    I remember when he got the $1M in Vegas. Good job MM25👍

  • @tankeater
    @tankeater 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow... Tom Vialle will probably have the same main parts of his racing portfolio as Musquin. I never thought about that!!!

  • @firemanrh
    @firemanrh 3 месяца назад

    The stories of these MXGP lower tier teams not paying their racers is crazy!!!!!!

  • @Tew730
    @Tew730 4 месяца назад +5

    2 time World Champion

  • @dynamite6507
    @dynamite6507 4 месяца назад +1

    Imagine the pressure on him to succeed

  • @TheReanim8ted
    @TheReanim8ted 4 месяца назад +1

    That’s a movie right there

  • @JamesyMusial14
    @JamesyMusial14 4 месяца назад

    Wow didn’t expect such an interesting story out of Marvin. Can’t blame him for doing what’s best for him because that team could have lead him down a bad road not living up to their promises.

  • @alexsanzphoto
    @alexsanzphoto 4 месяца назад +1

    I remember being there in the English gp as photographer and there were issues

  • @chrisbuehler6868
    @chrisbuehler6868 4 месяца назад +2

    LoL so the private Honda team couldn't pay Marv but wanted KTM to pay them to have him on their team?! You can't make this up

  • @kylereece575
    @kylereece575 4 месяца назад

    Wow I remember hearing about the switch back in the day .
    😮😮😮

  • @jtsurfs
    @jtsurfs 4 месяца назад +1

    A little click-baity with the title, he wasnt sued by Honda, it was the French team he was contracted to.

    • @GYPSYTALES
      @GYPSYTALES  4 месяца назад +1

      Honda Team... not Honda.

    • @jtsurfs
      @jtsurfs 4 месяца назад +1

      @@GYPSYTALES the point is Honda had nothing to do with it other than being the bikes that team used. It was a shitty French team that wasn't paying him but wouldn't release him from the contract. By saying Honda team its still very misleading.

    • @trav.builds
      @trav.builds 4 месяца назад +1

      Clicked didn’t you? Lol….

  • @dieselhrt5492
    @dieselhrt5492 4 месяца назад

    Such a likable dude

  • @ianmargetts9163
    @ianmargetts9163 4 месяца назад

    Down to earth dude..respect..

  • @onlygazza
    @onlygazza 4 месяца назад +1

    I like this guy and to think he didn’t have a ride this year is a travesty cos he was in the top five a lot last year, good luck to him 👏

  • @jeffrylopez5251
    @jeffrylopez5251 4 месяца назад

    Great story Good guy

  • @javi3_14
    @javi3_14 4 месяца назад +1

    kind of unfortunate that Marv had to race Tomac, looking back at all the hate the guy got just because he challenged the most liked guy lol he seems like a really nice dude

  • @sergifernandez9593
    @sergifernandez9593 4 месяца назад

    Sometimes, i want hear stories for private team's. Probably is not only one case, can happen in other teams.

  • @1969cmp
    @1969cmp 4 месяца назад +1

    Matilda sounds very sensible 👌

  • @chopperenduro6590
    @chopperenduro6590 4 месяца назад

    Always pulled for Marv , because he always seemed like a standup man , he was a KTM rider & last but certainly not least he landed his beautiful girlfriend who was always by his side & become his wife . If a SX or MX track was technical that day l knew Marvin was capable of winning , wonder if they stay in the States now ?

  • @ktmjay9920
    @ktmjay9920 4 месяца назад

    Good woman behind every good man😊

  • @trapptours6679
    @trapptours6679 4 месяца назад

    I like Marvin, such an interesting guy 👍

  • @davidciesielski8251
    @davidciesielski8251 4 месяца назад

    Had no idea

  • @mikehatch1967
    @mikehatch1967 4 месяца назад

    Is he going to ride anymore someone should pick him up

  • @AzTurboMini
    @AzTurboMini 4 месяца назад

    I miss Marv being on the track.

  • @christopherbassit6896
    @christopherbassit6896 4 месяца назад

    Hearing this leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I was planning on buying a new 2024 Husqvarna FE501s this year as my toy. 2 years ago it was a 2022 Honda grom I bought new. I’ll never buy a Honda new again. That’s some petty bs

  • @damoncallaway5450
    @damoncallaway5450 4 месяца назад

    I remember going to the Supercross Race in Gillette Stadium in Boston…..Marvin took out Tomac for the win on the last lap……holyshit was I & the entire stadium pissed off, if I remember it looked like Tomac flipped him off, it was in the sand section……I just remember I had KTM TroyLee Designs Hoodie on, more so to support Jordan Smith, but wow did I get hate leaving the stadium. I wasn’t a Marvin fan, because I felt he rode a lot like Dungey, fast af but too cautious……that time, he wasn’t & he went for it & got the win! After watching this interview, I like Marvin even more now……he is just a good dude, I wish he would’ve got that damn phone tho 😅……crazy to think someone that is on TV, racing around the world, is living out of a cash envelope…..if you would’ve asked anyone, you would’ve thought he was making 500K a year back then, and all bro wanted to get was a $500 Euro Samsung Phone (not even an Iphone 💀). Marvin has always been a humble guy & it’s hard to dislike the guy, I wonder if y’all talk about the move he put on Eli for the win in Foxboro, considering that’s where they are racing this weekend……let me know if you do, so I can watch that part 😂

  • @pjsneeringer5942
    @pjsneeringer5942 4 месяца назад

    MM=GREAT JOB @Gypsy

  • @vmcmark7578
    @vmcmark7578 4 месяца назад +1

    Did you get the phone???

  • @mike133b
    @mike133b 4 месяца назад +2

    Honda. Over and over again we hear these stories. Pre Jeff ward days until right now times with every star. They’re always sticking it to the riders. Same reason RC and MC left.

    • @gildo101rossi
      @gildo101rossi 4 месяца назад +1

      This was the LS Honda team, not a factory Honda team.

    • @Thjonsson1
      @Thjonsson1 4 месяца назад +1

      @@gildo101rossithe team was ngs Honda not ls

    • @gildo101rossi
      @gildo101rossi 4 месяца назад

      @@Thjonsson1 yes you’re right, LS Honda was who Desalle raced for

  • @rodneyharrison8064
    @rodneyharrison8064 4 месяца назад

    Marv is brilliant

  • @Tom_1d4sr
    @Tom_1d4sr 4 месяца назад

    You seem like a genuinely good guy and this feedback comes from a place of love. For the love of god stop talking over your guests. I can't watch any of your stuff because you continually ask a question, then talk over your guest without letting them answer in full. Listen to Joe Rogan, love him or hate him he's skilled at doing podcasts with interesting guests. He rarely if ever talks over his guests and lets them talk and listens, but knows when to jump in and ask a new question or a follow up question.

  • @aldelvechio2002
    @aldelvechio2002 4 месяца назад

    MooseCan is the Man......soooo good 😁

  • @churchoftheburningbushpodc7168
    @churchoftheburningbushpodc7168 4 месяца назад

    Imo the Honda team voided the contract as soon as they didn’t pay marv’s salary, he should of been free to do his thing!

  • @db1988
    @db1988 4 месяца назад

    How did Jase not know Marvin been with Matilda forever. I thought that was commonly known that she was with him through out it all

    • @GYPSYTALES
      @GYPSYTALES  4 месяца назад

      I didn’t know they had been together since 14 lol

  • @steez.e
    @steez.e 4 месяца назад

    Marv is a dope dude.

  • @korryjones7371
    @korryjones7371 4 месяца назад +2

    Them Honda boys sketchy as hell!!

    • @1969cmp
      @1969cmp 4 месяца назад +1

      'Private' team, not an official Honda factory or distributor team.

    • @gungadingo
      @gungadingo 4 месяца назад +1

      Where did you see “Honda factory”? Reading too much into it? Stop trying to show off.

    • @korryjones7371
      @korryjones7371 4 месяца назад +1

      @@gungadingo 🤣🤣 I stated my opinion. Don’t know how that’s showing off. Everybody leaves Honda except for the Lawrence bros. Again I dont know how I’m showing off………

  • @gazwit1603
    @gazwit1603 4 месяца назад

    You meet the worse people at a honda staff meeting😂

  • @Familytube90
    @Familytube90 4 месяца назад

    I mean the Honda team breached contract the moment they told him they couldn’t make the next round. It’s not upto the rider. This is another reason why gp banned privateer teams.

  • @LJSiar
    @LJSiar 4 месяца назад +1

    They did lobby to kill the 2 stroke, ruined Tomacs first run on 450, and the bikes usually suck, Honda is Bad for the sport.

    • @Hoss-
      @Hoss- 4 месяца назад +1

      It was a private team, that chose to race Honda’s. Has zero to do with Honda as a manufacturer.

    • @LJSiar
      @LJSiar 4 месяца назад

      @@Hoss- Have you even been to Japan bro? Honda is a parasite on the sport.

  • @db1988
    @db1988 4 месяца назад

    So it wasn't Honda that wanted money? it was the team kinda like firepower Honda it's not HRC.
    I mean if the team secured more budget on the bassis that they had a guy leading championship someone gonna want money back but he didn't get paid so it sucks all around

  • @jammer212
    @jammer212 4 месяца назад

    dudes like a mythical French eagle 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @yamaha4902
    @yamaha4902 4 месяца назад

    A true rider that knows the struggle, not some rich prick for once. Love him. Screw honda btw always!!!

  • @aldocaruso2896
    @aldocaruso2896 4 месяца назад

    I can see Marvin in a private Husq destroying in the outdoors ( Podium Guy Solid too not a wimp)

  • @TheRealTieLUR
    @TheRealTieLUR 4 месяца назад

    Such a solid dude for a frenchman 😂

  • @regenbassford
    @regenbassford 4 месяца назад

    Business business

  • @simpdog1463
    @simpdog1463 4 месяца назад

    Im a huge marvin fan... FU&% Honda and FU(/ feld motorsports, and FU/& davey coombs

  • @BennyBen9
    @BennyBen9 4 месяца назад

    Another big company stitching up the normal man

  • @thegentlemen6135
    @thegentlemen6135 4 месяца назад

    He just owed Honda money for no reason? But then you sit out that proves you guilt. Should have read your contract.

  • @myname5420
    @myname5420 4 месяца назад

    I assume that honda team has since folded like laundry?

  • @Papparratzi
    @Papparratzi 4 месяца назад +3

    This pisses me off. Basically Honda set up a contract where you were under contract to race for them without getting paid.
    They knew full well they were taking advantage of a struggling rider.
    That’s very Epstein ish

    • @garymallard4699
      @garymallard4699 4 месяца назад +3

      it was a Private Honda Team not Factory Honda ....and Yes they were taking advantage of a Talented Young racer....

    • @TrickRacing
      @TrickRacing 4 месяца назад +2

      Epstein Honda racing team

    • @Papparratzi
      @Papparratzi 4 месяца назад

      @@TrickRacing their slogan
      Only the fastest can hang with Epstein Racing

  • @johnny_eason_iii
    @johnny_eason_iii 4 месяца назад

    🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

  • @KG-yc6cl
    @KG-yc6cl 4 месяца назад +3

    I like Marv, but I want to hear the other side of the story before passing judgment.

    • @leeham273
      @leeham273 4 месяца назад

      lmfao ur fucking weird

    • @zacharykasprzyk3671
      @zacharykasprzyk3671 4 месяца назад +2

      I agree. He may be telling the truth or his version of the truth but could also be he saw an opportunity to ride for Ktm and bounced while under contract. 🤷 Doubt we will ever know the entire story but worked out for him in the end. Sounded a little fishy when he said no money to race but they show up anyway and continue to race and hire lawyers. Doubt they would have been mad if they really were folding up shop. I am sure the contract he was on was terrible at that time. There is no loyalty in business especially racing so he did what he needed to do to better his own career.

  • @tripleeathletics
    @tripleeathletics 4 месяца назад +1

    11:58 I had to listen a few times to understand that one. I’m not gonna say what I thought he said… “Because we tried N….” NEGOTIATE people!!! 😂

    • @michael4630
      @michael4630 4 месяца назад +2

      As a French native speaking too, these words with T in the middle are a pain in the a** to prononce, like Negotiate, or British.. took me years to understand that we don’t pronounce them 😂.

    • @tripleeathletics
      @tripleeathletics 4 месяца назад

      @@michael4630 No worries my dude! I can’t pronounce 1/2 of your everyday vocab, so it’s all good! 🤝✌️

  • @dougderby9454
    @dougderby9454 4 месяца назад +9

    Marv is as solid as they come.

  • @HurricaneJesus69
    @HurricaneJesus69 4 месяца назад +11

    Marv is such a great dude! I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say anything but good things about him. A true class act!

    • @goonzmx
      @goonzmx 4 месяца назад

      actually the other way around