Great job dragboss! First, I love how you don’t edit, your daughters “interruptions”, out of the video! Second, been a few decades, since I’ve seen someone, doing the external oil hose modification!
Thanks CW. They love to talk that is for sure. I enjoy them in the garage helping dad. I have never ran the line before, hope it was the right decision.
It is quite simple. Ditch the filter and use an adater to route the oil from the pump through a massaged gallery through a remote mount filter and an oil cooler back into the engine where you have taken that baby line. Obviuosly some drilling and blending required. You have straightened out about 3 kinks and have a bigger volume of oil into the engine. The usual restrictors etc and you have improved a bad system. You could also Y it back into the engine and take oil to the front and rear oil galleries. Something I did with drysumped Chevs which save no 1 main from starvation. You can do similar to many makes of engine as they are all drilled as cheaply as possible. Taking a line or main gallery restricted OEM and straightening it out and taking away restictions at fittings makes the oil get places with less fuss and aslo gains a few hp from the pump not working as hard. A race Clevo requires a high volume pump and blend all the intakes and outputs from the pump and into the block. The oil cooler is generally not required as a cooler but makes an excellent deaeration device. Wet sumps at best always circulate aerared oil.. Though really these engines need dry sumping, more so than many others. And are still fragile! However all the adapters inc Denale are at best very poor and require a LOT of work not to be a huge restriction. Ditto with the remote filter mount. That 6mm line cannot hurt unless you lose the line but
Glad to see everyone is going forward and me sharing your work with my Ford bud's seem to be helping you out with a couple here and there. Cross your fingers my motor is at the machine shop and I hope it goes better than the last one. Great evening to you and your family. Again I love to see you making progress.
Thanks John. Have not been on net, working away. Ready to load and go to buddies with run stand and see how it goes. Good luck with machine shop. Thanks for helping me out John. Have a great day
@@DragBoss351Cleveland you are welcome and I need something after I found out my last grand went up in rust on my Cleveland engine and I got to give up on a kid's dream. All gone or too much for a guy who works at a shop for 17.50/ hr and six days a week. Too old and too poor, and I waited to long to get back into the car game. Between the crushing, hording, rusting, and neglected dreams, I just can't afford to do one last one with the father. At 82 for him and 52+ for me I guess I can just dream about it and go watch the drags. God bless your family and I will be praying you have a great test and even better run 780 HP and 80 lbs of oil pressure on your tweaked machine. Can't wait to see you post it and sorry about the rant. Just sad people are the way they are and I am so dumb and gullible to do the same thing a third time. Peace and prosper, Mr. Halstead/Dragboss
@@johnelliott7375 thanks so much John. Don’t understand my last grand went up in rust. Never give up, just look at it differently. Not sure what you goal is, but sure could build something. Hell I have a short block, what’s the deal. Yep all good on the home front. She lives and breathes.....stay tuned
I've heard about oil restricts for Cleveland motors but I was pretty light on the how and why. Now, not so light on it. I do know that Pumps Produce Flow and Resistance to Flow produces Pressure. Keep up the great work, you're educating this old fart so thanks for that.
Hey Kevin, I’m at old part two. When I start prepping the pro stock block, we’ll talk more about oiling, and give maybe a better explanation. Sometimes it’s easy to see in visualize rather than just listen. I’ll see if I can help us both. Appreciate you being here old fart
Yes Track Boss Factory GT short shaft toploader 28 spline 9 inch with four wheel disc brakes from factory May 1976 model great old car.keep up the great site.
Beautiful oil filter adapter and Napa Gold filter job. I remember once in Fairfield Ca, I stumbled upon a sale at Napa on Napa Gold oil filters. This was back in ‘10. I bought filters for my ‘02 Vette, my recently LS2 swapped S10 Extreme, and my ‘90 240SX. They’re good filters. That’s when I stopped using Fram filters. Started using Wix after my stash of Napa Gold filters ran out. I order Wix filters on Amazon and have ‘em shipped here to Colombia 🇨🇴 for free!😎
Hey Reg, hi to all the Colombians tuning in. Glad your here, yes napa filters are the same as Wix. They are great filters for sure. Glad your here Reg.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland They like hot rods down here too. There’s some old school Chevy and Ford motors down here with a lot of 4 cylinder tuner stuff. Hard to come across LS, Hemi and Toyota V8’s down here. I seen some late model Mustangs and Camaro’s down here, every now and then. One Camaro in particular. No cats, it sounds like. Anyway, Fram is garbage 🗑 in a pinch down here, I’d buy a Puralator from the parts stores here.
I had oil pressure problems 408 Clevo 4340 Scat crank H beam rods SRP forged pistons, second engine builder found crap in the oil gallery’s and some sealant witch I had not used. runs like clock work now ten years on love it old School engine builder second Time, love your channel Track Boss. My Falcon is on RUclips Sveno Mick XB 408 Falcon Sunday drive.
Mick that sucks going through that, I washed this block, 3 different times prior to assembly. Glad you enjoy my channel, it’s just me DragBoss, doing what I normally do. I will look up your Falcon Mick. Thanks for taking the time my friend.
I have used the oil pressure port to feed a separate bypass oil filter that returns back to bung in the oil pan. Of course that is in a 400M in a '79 F-350 4x4. I am considering adding the oil line also. Not sure if it will do much in an engine that tops out (I run out of carb with a 650cfm 4150HP) around the 5500 RPM area. Your thoughts?? As I have said before, I love the detail you put into your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Don. I appreciate your kind words. To tell you the truth, I would not bother. The oiling systems are good up to 6500, maybe a bit more. I would not waste your time or money. You should be good to go. Thoughts?
@@DragBoss351Cleveland Kind of what I was thinking, but thought I would ask. You have a bunch of research into the oiling system. This is what is so awesome about having a forum where thoughts can be expressed between several people many, many miles apart. Thanks again.
A few years ago I installed an external oil line similar to the one you show in this video on a new 400 build, which I think has an oiling system like the 351C, with the same idea of getting more oil to the bottom end. Some time later, I started losing the rod bearings on the passenger side, but had no idea a problem was developing until it started knocking. Even after it began knocking, the oil pressure never dropped. I came to realize that the external line was carrying oil directly from the oil pump to the pressure sensor, therefore the pressure sensor never picked up the problem inside the engine. Just something to think about. Billy
Good info too know. I have a gauge but understand what your saying. I never used these mods before and have had good luck. This will be a great test to see what happens. Your right, same oil system. Next build will have bushings. Thanks Billy
@@jeffreylee7184 Apparently there was a piece of trash in an oil gallery after rebuild. Being a 400, this was obviously not a race engine. I built the engine myself as a torque-monster for my 77 F-100. It only ran a 2-3 thousand miles or so before beginning to knock. When torn down, all 4 rod bearings on the passenger side were toast. None spun, but were chewed up, 2 of them badly so, along with damage to the crank. I can't remember anymore whether # 1 or # 4 (whichever direction the oil is routed down the crank) was in the worst shape, but the damage lessened as it went along. All main bearings and rod bearing 5-8 were okay. The only 2 possibilities I could come up with were (1) I accidentally let a small piece of trash get into an oil gallery during assembly, or (2) a piece of cleaning grit got stuck in an oil gallery at the machine shop. The external oil line didn't cause the damage. However, it essentially puts the oil pressure sensor between the oil pump and the bearings, in which location it only tells you the pressure the pump is putting out, not the pressure inside the engine through the bearings. This renders the oil pressure sensor virtually useless. Therefore, when in a normal situation you would see oil pressure dropping as bearings wear, the external line in my case, and as shown in this video, prevents you from seeing this. Had the external line not been in place on my engine, I still would have lost the bearings, but perhaps seeing rapidly decreasing oil pressure, I would have shut the engine down sooner before doing so much damage to the crank. I still remember being confused as to why my newly built engine was knocking while the oil pressure never dropped. I eventually figured out the answer to that question, but exactly what caused the damage remains a mystery subject only to speculation. Fortunately, I was barely able to save the crank by having it turned the maximum allowed.
Lot of speculation on oil timing with stock cranks. Hard to explain, but buddy was saying that is issue with rods on cleveland with stock crank, oil flow poor for rods. I’m a little concerned with line, but will try it. Keep your fingers crossed for me Billy.
I am interested in the larger oil adaptor and the oil filter. Could you please let me know if and were i can purchase these to products. I am from Sydney Australia and follow all your videos. If i need to purchase from the US tell me who has and i can order them. Thank you and keep the videos coming. Have a great day.
Good to hear from you mate. I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Glad you enjoy the channel. So far happy with it. You can get these from Tim Meyer. Here is his website. Stay tuned. www.tmeyerinc.com/
Very neat kit by aeroflow. I watched a video that talked about clevo mains oiling problems as a result of the crank shaft oil galory clocking positions, have you heard of this? Thanks Richard, aussie clevo fan. Ps, nice manifold 👌
Thanks Richard. My mate Paul Diley made that video. That seems to be an issue with crankshaft. I have ran Eagle and Scat and no issues in that regard that I know of.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland hey mate, i just found that paul diley video, ill give it a watch, the video i watched was by chris fin he's got one video on cleveland oiling problems, its a bit slow to watch though.
Have a question. So I have an oil cooler and I bought the upgraded oil adapter. And I bought the external oil line. Now question is can I run the external line into the oil cooler the route it to the input in back of the engine? Thanks in advance.
Thanks Brian. I was never going to do it, as I have never had issues. But after my oil video on th oiling system of the Cleveland, I decided to try it. I hope it all goes well. Glad your here my friend.
If your worried about the 90 degrees in the block, why not use aer0quip type fittings. (Straight 3/8" NPT to the block, and a -6 hose fitting-if I guessed right) -nice flowing elbow, 90 degree, like a mandrel bent pipe, but aluminum. Then go an to pipe-add your Tee for the Oil press. send. unit., An back to the front of the engine with another 90 degree (Straight 3/8" NPT to the block, and a -6 hose fitting-if I guessed right)- to the 585 port. areoquip Stainless steel with teflon lined, SS braided outside-good for 4500PSI, nearly fireproof, or Aluminum fitting and hose-similar to Sumiit stuff. All these fittings can be reused-mostly, some thread pick up. Spelling intentional so no advertasmints, LOL
Big Cadillac engines oil lifters then mains. I tried the external oil line. Didn't work. Oil out verses Oil in through the pump. My fix was. 875 id oil suction tube. Then set pump to 100psi and use external oil pressure relief valve at oil pressure guage port at rear of block as it is the last opening to receive oil pressure. Relieved oil pressure to oil pan. Problem solved. Bearings like new after hundreds of punishment testing.
I never even went through any of that and good results. I will try the bushings, and modify the oil hole on the lifters. Man you went to town on it, from oil perspective.
I think you can get Aeroflow right in Australia, as that is where they are from. Don't know of any stores there, but any high performance parts stores should have it Skip
The oil pressure isn't going to be lowest at the rear main which is at the end of the system gallery; it is going to be lowest at the point with the highest velocity. The biggest problem with the Cleveland oiling system is the leakage around the lifters. Bushings in the right side lifter bores and restriction on the left side will give an amazing increase in oil pressure: Here's a link to a video where I'm running a 384 inch Cleveland that gets run in a Pantera at the Silver State Open Road event in Nevada. This video was taken after about 20 dyno pulls and an hour of run time. ruclips.net/video/Veq34I2B6_M/видео.html
@@DragBoss351Cleveland I can't see what it would hurt except for possibly making the oil pressure look better on the gauge than what it really is inside of the engine. A friend of mine who ran a Camping World Nascar truck for many years used a similar oil filter in their system that I think was originally intended for hydraulic systems. They had that same inlet as you're using and best of all they were inexpensive when compared to fancier filters that didn't work any more effectively.
@@DaveMcLain yep had about same oil pressure as before. Tough to say until I run it this am. Hey you never know. The filter was designed for a cat loader or similar engine
I showed my buddy your channel I told him this is a real engine......lol....was sick of listening to big block chevy and I pulled out some of your videos..........lol..... I'm a Ford guy and he's a Chevy guy so you can only imagine how bad we bust each other's chops
I can dig it Chris. I have a few Chevy friends, I accept their weaknesses. Lol. I hope he liked the videos and channel. In truth, it does not matter what engine or car. It matters that you take the time to build and appreciate engines in general. This is a list art and falling by the wayside. Just trying to keep the cleveland alive. Thanks for hanging out at the DragBoss Garage.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland ....... yeah I was wondering why I wasn't getting your videos on my notifications I made sure I change that so I get all of them...... keep up the great work though
Thank you. I’ve always ran a filter mag. Because it just makes sense. I’ve never read about them. I know how efficient they are. Sounds like you have some information on them. Share it with us please. Have a great holiday season. Stay tuned to DBG.
I would mess with that horrible "oil pressure switch" and install an actual oil pressure sensor. (I'm not hating) I work for Ford and they still use this oil pressure switch design. An actual oil pressure sensor would reduce diagnostics time down significantly. Especially with all of the hydraulic cam phasing Ford now uses.
John I have a mechanical gauge. What oil pressure switch are you talking about. Stock I understand. Nothing stock here. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope you have a great 2022
That is the most beautiful manifold I have ever seen!
It’s works well on Dyno engine with 1050 made 775hp. With 4150 intake and carb 769hp
Great job dragboss! First, I love how you don’t edit, your daughters “interruptions”, out of the video! Second, been a few decades, since I’ve seen someone, doing the external oil hose modification!
Thanks CW. They love to talk that is for sure. I enjoy them in the garage helping dad. I have never ran the line before, hope it was the right decision.
It is quite simple. Ditch the filter and use an adater to route the oil from the pump through a massaged gallery through a remote mount filter and an oil cooler back into the engine where you have taken that baby line. Obviuosly some drilling and blending required. You have straightened out about 3 kinks and have a bigger volume of oil into the engine. The usual restrictors etc and you have improved a bad system. You could also Y it back into the engine and take oil to the front and rear oil galleries. Something I did with drysumped Chevs which save no 1 main from starvation. You can do similar to many makes of engine as they are all drilled as cheaply as possible. Taking a line or main gallery restricted OEM and straightening it out and taking away restictions at fittings makes the oil get places with less fuss and aslo gains a few hp from the pump not working as hard. A race Clevo requires a high volume pump and blend all the intakes and outputs from the pump and into the block.
The oil cooler is generally not required as a cooler but makes an excellent deaeration device. Wet sumps at best always circulate aerared oil..
Though really these engines need dry sumping, more so than many others. And are still fragile!
However all the adapters inc Denale are at best very poor and require a LOT of work not to be a huge restriction. Ditto with the remote filter mount. That 6mm line cannot hurt unless you lose the line but
Looking forward to the dyno!
Me too too Billy stay tuned.
As usual I'm learning a bunch of great stuff. Important stuff too, thanks for all your " educational" videos. Wes
Wesley every day is a school day. I try and learn something new every day. Your welcome on the educational videos
Great information love those Clevelands. Thanks 😊!!
Thanks Mike, Love those Cleveland's too. Thanks for stopping by the DragBoss Garage.
Me too! Pretty easy, to get 400 h.p. Out of a 2V Cleveland!
Glad to see everyone is going forward and me sharing your work with my Ford bud's seem to be helping you out with a couple here and there. Cross your fingers my motor is at the machine shop and I hope it goes better than the last one. Great evening to you and your family. Again I love to see you making progress.
Thanks John. Have not been on net, working away. Ready to load and go to buddies with run stand and see how it goes. Good luck with machine shop. Thanks for helping me out John. Have a great day
@@DragBoss351Cleveland that is what your fellow man is supposed to do my friend, I hope everything goes flawlessly.
@@johnelliott7375 flawless. Wait until you hear this Cleveland. Thanks for the positive vibes.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland you are welcome and I need something after I found out my last grand went up in rust on my Cleveland engine and I got to give up on a kid's dream. All gone or too much for a guy who works at a shop for 17.50/ hr and six days a week. Too old and too poor, and I waited to long to get back into the car game. Between the crushing, hording, rusting, and neglected dreams, I just can't afford to do one last one with the father. At 82 for him and 52+ for me I guess I can just dream about it and go watch the drags. God bless your family and I will be praying you have a great test and even better run 780 HP and 80 lbs of oil pressure on your tweaked machine. Can't wait to see you post it and sorry about the rant. Just sad people are the way they are and I am so dumb and gullible to do the same thing a third time. Peace and prosper, Mr. Halstead/Dragboss
@@johnelliott7375 thanks so much John. Don’t understand my last grand went up in rust. Never give up, just look at it differently. Not sure what you goal is, but sure could build something. Hell I have a short block, what’s the deal. Yep all good on the home front. She lives and breathes.....stay tuned
I've heard about oil restricts for Cleveland motors but I was pretty light on the how and why. Now, not so light on it. I do know that Pumps Produce Flow and Resistance to Flow produces Pressure. Keep up the great work, you're educating this old fart so thanks for that.
Hey Kevin, I’m at old part two. When I start prepping the pro stock block, we’ll talk more about oiling, and give maybe a better explanation. Sometimes it’s easy to see in visualize rather than just listen. I’ll see if I can help us both. Appreciate you being here old fart
Yes Track Boss Factory GT short shaft toploader 28 spline 9 inch with four wheel disc brakes from factory May 1976 model great old car.keep up the great site.
Dry cool love it mate. Keep up the great work.
Beautiful oil filter adapter and Napa Gold filter job. I remember once in Fairfield Ca, I stumbled upon a sale at Napa on Napa Gold oil filters. This was back in ‘10. I bought filters for my ‘02 Vette, my recently LS2 swapped S10 Extreme, and my ‘90 240SX. They’re good filters. That’s when I stopped using Fram filters. Started using Wix after my stash of Napa Gold filters ran out. I order Wix filters on Amazon and have ‘em shipped here to Colombia 🇨🇴 for free!😎
Hey Reg, hi to all the Colombians tuning in. Glad your here, yes napa filters are the same as Wix. They are great filters for sure. Glad your here Reg.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland They like hot rods down here too. There’s some old school Chevy and Ford motors down here with a lot of 4 cylinder tuner stuff. Hard to come across LS, Hemi and Toyota V8’s down here. I seen some late model Mustangs and Camaro’s down here, every now and then. One Camaro in particular. No cats, it sounds like. Anyway, Fram is garbage 🗑 in a pinch down here, I’d buy a Puralator from the parts stores here.
Thanks for giving us an update. You see any cool car stuff that we might like let me know. Email me. 👍
@@DragBoss351Cleveland ok
I had oil pressure problems 408 Clevo 4340 Scat crank H beam rods SRP forged pistons, second engine builder found crap in the oil gallery’s and some sealant witch I had not used. runs like clock work now ten years on love it old School engine builder second Time, love your channel Track Boss. My Falcon is on RUclips Sveno Mick XB 408 Falcon Sunday drive.
Mick that sucks going through that, I washed this block, 3 different times prior to assembly. Glad you enjoy my channel, it’s just me DragBoss, doing what I normally do. I will look up your Falcon Mick. Thanks for taking the time my friend.
I just subbed. She sounds wicked and stick car too. Great job 👍👍
Over 10 years now don’t use the old Girl much these day just love the old Cars.
Yes mate. I enjoyed your videos. Always amazed at you guys driving on the wrong side of the road. Lol
I have used the oil pressure port to feed a separate bypass oil filter that returns back to bung in the oil pan. Of course that is in a 400M in a '79 F-350 4x4. I am considering adding the oil line also. Not sure if it will do much in an engine that tops out (I run out of carb with a 650cfm 4150HP) around the 5500 RPM area. Your thoughts??
As I have said before, I love the detail you put into your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Don. I appreciate your kind words. To tell you the truth, I would not bother. The oiling systems are good up to 6500, maybe a bit more. I would not waste your time or money. You should be good to go. Thoughts?
@@DragBoss351Cleveland Kind of what I was thinking, but thought I would ask. You have a bunch of research into the oiling system. This is what is so awesome about having a forum where thoughts can be expressed between several people many, many miles apart. Thanks again.
@@donnatalielucasheimbigner7598 your welcome Don. I agree for sure. Please share my channel and help me build it. Stay tuned more in store
@@DragBoss351Cleveland Will do on both.
A few years ago I installed an external oil line similar to the one you show in this video on a new 400 build, which I think has an oiling system like the 351C, with the same idea of getting more oil to the bottom end. Some time later, I started losing the rod bearings on the passenger side, but had no idea a problem was developing until it started knocking. Even after it began knocking, the oil pressure never dropped. I came to realize that the external line was carrying oil directly from the oil pump to the pressure sensor, therefore the pressure sensor never picked up the problem inside the engine. Just something to think about. Billy
Good info too know. I have a gauge but understand what your saying. I never used these mods before and have had good luck. This will be a great test to see what happens. Your right, same oil system. Next build will have bushings. Thanks Billy
@@jeffreylee7184 Apparently there was a piece of trash in an oil gallery after rebuild. Being a 400, this was obviously not a race engine. I built the engine myself as a torque-monster for my 77 F-100. It only ran a 2-3 thousand miles or so before beginning to knock. When torn down, all 4 rod bearings on the passenger side were toast. None spun, but were chewed up, 2 of them badly so, along with damage to the crank. I can't remember anymore whether # 1 or # 4 (whichever direction the oil is routed down the crank) was in the worst shape, but the damage lessened as it went along. All main bearings and rod bearing 5-8 were okay. The only 2 possibilities I could come up with were (1) I accidentally let a small piece of trash get into an oil gallery during assembly, or (2) a piece of cleaning grit got stuck in an oil gallery at the machine shop. The external oil line didn't cause the damage. However, it essentially puts the oil pressure sensor between the oil pump and the bearings, in which location it only tells you the pressure the pump is putting out, not the pressure inside the engine through the bearings. This renders the oil pressure sensor virtually useless. Therefore, when in a normal situation you would see oil pressure dropping as bearings wear, the external line in my case, and as shown in this video, prevents you from seeing this. Had the external line not been in place on my engine, I still would have lost the bearings, but perhaps seeing rapidly decreasing oil pressure, I would have shut the engine down sooner before doing so much damage to the crank. I still remember being confused as to why my newly built engine was knocking while the oil pressure never dropped. I eventually figured out the answer to that question, but exactly what caused the damage remains a mystery subject only to speculation. Fortunately, I was barely able to save the crank by having it turned the maximum allowed.
Lot of speculation on oil timing with stock cranks. Hard to explain, but buddy was saying that is issue with rods on cleveland with stock crank, oil flow poor for rods. I’m a little concerned with line, but will try it. Keep your fingers crossed for me Billy.
Great vid as always
Thanks Roman. Just trying something different. Keep your fingers crossed
Super Nice 👌🏼🏁
Thanks mate. Just trying something new, fingers crossed 🤞 stay tuned
I am interested in the larger oil adaptor and the oil filter. Could you please let me know if and were i can purchase these to products. I am from Sydney Australia and follow all your videos. If i need to purchase from the US tell me who has and i can order them. Thank you and keep the videos coming. Have a great day.
Good to hear from you mate. I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Glad you enjoy the channel. So far happy with it. You can get these from Tim Meyer. Here is his website. Stay tuned.
www.tmeyerinc.com/
Very neat kit by aeroflow.
I watched a video that talked about clevo mains oiling problems as a result of the crank shaft oil galory clocking positions, have you heard of this?
Thanks
Richard, aussie clevo fan.
Ps, nice manifold 👌
Thanks Richard. My mate Paul Diley made that video. That seems to be an issue with crankshaft. I have ran Eagle and Scat and no issues in that regard that I know of.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland hey mate, i just found that paul diley video, ill give it a watch, the video i watched was by chris fin he's got one video on cleveland oiling problems, its a bit slow to watch though.
Have a question. So I have an oil cooler and I bought the upgraded oil adapter. And I bought the external oil line. Now question is can I run the external line into the oil cooler the route it to the input in back of the engine? Thanks in advance.
You could, as long as the oil has been filtered before. Do not want to run unfiltered oil to the back.
Hey mate great content what are the part numbers for the areo flow oil line kit cheers
You know it was a kit that Tim Meyer put together and you can get it from. Him at TrackBoss performance products.
www.tmeyerinc.com/
Another good video Tim. I may try the line at some point Tim?
Thanks Brian. I was never going to do it, as I have never had issues. But after my oil video on th oiling system of the Cleveland, I decided to try it. I hope it all goes well. Glad your here my friend.
If your worried about the 90 degrees in the block, why not use aer0quip type fittings. (Straight 3/8" NPT to the block, and a -6 hose fitting-if I guessed right) -nice flowing elbow, 90 degree, like a mandrel bent pipe, but aluminum. Then go an to pipe-add your Tee for the Oil press. send. unit., An back to the front of the engine with another 90 degree (Straight 3/8" NPT to the block, and a -6 hose fitting-if I guessed right)- to the 585 port.
areoquip Stainless steel with teflon lined, SS braided outside-good for 4500PSI, nearly fireproof, or Aluminum fitting and hose-similar to Sumiit stuff. All these fittings can be reused-mostly, some thread pick up.
Spelling intentional so no advertasmints, LOL
Got as a kit so never took the time to change. Next time around I will make sure straight with no changes
Big Cadillac engines oil lifters then mains. I tried the external oil line. Didn't work. Oil out verses Oil in through the pump. My fix was. 875 id oil suction tube. Then set pump to 100psi and use external oil pressure relief valve at oil pressure guage port at rear of block as it is the last opening to receive oil pressure. Relieved oil pressure to oil pan. Problem solved. Bearings like new after hundreds of punishment testing.
I never even went through any of that and good results. I will try the bushings, and modify the oil hole on the lifters. Man you went to town on it, from oil perspective.
Where can these Aeroflow external oil line kits for Cleveland engines be obtained, do you know? Is there an outlet in Australia or NZ? Thanks . .
I think you can get Aeroflow right in Australia, as that is where they are from. Don't know of any stores there, but any high performance parts stores should have it Skip
Drag Boss, what weight of oil will you be using in this motor?
Must be, top secret.😃
I must have missed this. Brad Penn 20w50 semi synthetic
@@DragBoss351Cleveland I could tell, it was Brad Penn. Unmistakable.
@@strokermaverick seems to be good oil.
Where did you get the oil lines? Thx
Tim Meyer TrackBoss Performance products
So do you know what the oil pressure was before the filter adapter and external line?
Jim I will ck, I have video just like you saw. To tell you the truth, I think it was the same. I will ck in am and reply back.
Why not run a dry sump? I always wondered about that.
Too much cost and hassle on this 409C, Never had issues before, so hopefully this does not cause any...
Drag boss I run a Baldwin B T 251 over FL 1 A motocraft.
The Baldwin is 2 inches taller I have one on my ranchero and two on my duely w/ twin remote
Kevin, I heard that Baldwin had great filters also. Thanks for giving us other options on filters. Thanks for commenting.
Thanks man interesting
Your most welcome. Never did any mods like this before. Stay tuned Robbie
Dude! what is the part number on the Adapter? i cant seem to source it anywhere..
It is here Brian
www.tmeyerinc.com/
The oil pressure isn't going to be lowest at the rear main which is at the end of the system gallery; it is going to be lowest at the point with the highest velocity. The biggest problem with the Cleveland oiling system is the leakage around the lifters. Bushings in the right side lifter bores and restriction on the left side will give an amazing increase in oil pressure: Here's a link to a video where I'm running a 384 inch Cleveland that gets run in a Pantera at the Silver State Open Road event in Nevada. This video was taken after about 20 dyno pulls and an hour of run time. ruclips.net/video/Veq34I2B6_M/видео.html
Dave I just hope these two mods don’t cause issues I never had before.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland I can't see what it would hurt except for possibly making the oil pressure look better on the gauge than what it really is inside of the engine.
A friend of mine who ran a Camping World Nascar truck for many years used a similar oil filter in their system that I think was originally intended for hydraulic systems. They had that same inlet as you're using and best of all they were inexpensive when compared to fancier filters that didn't work any more effectively.
@@DaveMcLain yep had about same oil pressure as before. Tough to say until I run it this am. Hey you never know. The filter was designed for a cat loader or similar engine
What was the part # of the line kit?
Sorry Jonny missed this,
Here you go
www.tmeyerinc.com/product/oil-line-external/
Where can I order that kit
Can get one from Tim Meyer TrackBoss Performance Products.
www.tmeyerinc.com/
I showed my buddy your channel I told him this is a real engine......lol....was sick of listening to big block chevy and I pulled out some of your videos..........lol..... I'm a Ford guy and he's a Chevy guy so you can only imagine how bad we bust each other's chops
I can dig it Chris. I have a few Chevy friends, I accept their weaknesses. Lol. I hope he liked the videos and channel. In truth, it does not matter what engine or car. It matters that you take the time to build and appreciate engines in general. This is a list art and falling by the wayside. Just trying to keep the cleveland alive. Thanks for hanging out at the DragBoss Garage.
@@DragBoss351Cleveland ....... yeah I was wondering why I wasn't getting your videos on my notifications I made sure I change that so I get all of them...... keep up the great work though
@@chrislore2681 thanks Chris. I appreciate it. Getting ready to load up this am to go to Weaks Ford Country Garage to run the 409c.
Where do find the SCM intake manifolds.
Tom you can try and Email Scott at scott1070@bigpond.com. Glad your here, appreciate it.
Silly request I know, but can you send me the link for those blue pads?
Mike what Blue pads the drapes? Those are what they use in the Operating room to drape patients. You can't buy them that I know of. Thanks Mike
@@DragBoss351Cleveland He probably means the ones on the vice.
@@roaddog1973 I will ask him. Thanks appreciate you watching my channel.
If you run a FilterMag And change the oil every 3000 km. You will get very long service life out of any motor
Thank you. I’ve always ran a filter mag. Because it just makes sense. I’ve never read about them. I know how efficient they are. Sounds like you have some information on them. Share it with us please. Have a great holiday season. Stay tuned to DBG.
I would mess with that horrible "oil pressure switch" and install an actual oil pressure sensor. (I'm not hating)
I work for Ford and they still use this oil pressure switch design. An actual oil pressure sensor would reduce diagnostics time down significantly. Especially with all of the hydraulic cam phasing Ford now uses.
John I have a mechanical gauge. What oil pressure switch are you talking about. Stock I understand. Nothing stock here. Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope you have a great 2022