DeWalt VS HiKOKI VS Makita VS Milwaukee | Who Makes the MOST POWERFUL RECIPROCATING SAW?
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2021
- Which brand makes the Most Powerful Reciprocating Saw? Is it the DeWALT FlexVolt Advantage? The HiKOKI 36v Godzilla? The 18v x2 Makita 36v? Or the Milwaukee Super Sawzall? Or are they all pretty much the same???
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The HiKOKI / Metabo HPT ONLY $99USD amzn.to/3opNexj The best is also the cheapest! Might as well buy 2!
Perhaps buddy it's because they only sell them in the US.
Go watch some videos of Americans being paid to sell flex products and stop wasting my time. Please don't watch my channel anymore.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL You tell him! Love your channel and love the videos. And I love it when you put these trolls in their place. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for the amazon link. Just bought one. You're doing an amazing job 👏. Thanks so much for your reviews .
Cheers Hayden
You should see how fast the Hikoki can cut the Milwaukee in half....
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100% that should happen
I'm a Makita fan boy from the states, but that Hikoki killed it. Nice video.
Hi-Koki in the US is Hitachi (now Metabo HPT)
Great reviews! Always fun and entertaining. Nice intro nature shots too, they give us a moment of peace for a brief second and BAM, tool reviews. lol
Oh. I'd like some of those Rival Blades. please...
Love these video so much battle between brand with the real world test
I've been trying to tell folks this for a while now cuz I couldn't believe how powerful the Metabo HPT/Hikoki was over my super saw all
The same goes for the SDS Max rotary, the Hammer drill the table saw and the Grinder
Also love the 1/2" cordless router and just noticed ACME tools has the new 36V cordless compressor with better specs than the Milwaukee and dewalt-
The AC adapter option also is a game changer for many of these tools
Saves longevity of my batteries and rub time on long jobs
Don't be afraid to go green
I’m glad you put the 12HO on the Milwaukee. It’s not often you see any of their tools get beaten for sheer speed and power with that battery. It still came out on top of my brand so I’m not poking at Milwaukee, but the green machine is a absolute unit. Soon maybe people will start saying “ the big 4” when referring to tool brands..
I thought you were joking when you yesterday said you would make a test of this saw's . Really like your reviews , keep up the good work
Nice honest reviews like your style
Just picked up the North American Metabo HPT version of this Hikoki beast. It is amazing that the battery powered saws are out cutting corded versions!
Nice video, I personally own the single battery version of the Makita sawzall shown and i love it for my home remodel that i'm doing myself with some help from my dad.
another great vid, would love some Rival Blades to try out
That was so funny the sound afect .I so needed that
Great review! I would love some rival blades. They definately rival the current expensive white ones that I buy which don't last very long.
Great video, thanks
Thanks for another hreat video. As someone who has and uses tools from all the brands inlcluded in this shootout, Metabo HPT's best tools can hang (and often beat) any brand's top pieces.
The Hikoki really is a beast, just as I thought from using it.
They really need to work on its durability though, I have two, just because I know I will break those gearboxes. They seem to last somewhere between 3-6months in heavy use. I've bought one from the states with Metabo HPT on it, and two Hikoki ones from a local store here in Finland.
It seems like the main problem is with the upper half of the gearbox shell not being connected to the plastic frame in any way, just the lower part is. This makes the whole gearbox able to flex, and then pop goes the needle bearing that is transferring all the force while converting rotational motion from the motor to the linear motion of the blade.
Do you notice a difference between the Hikoki saw vs the Metabo HPT?
They are the exact same saw with a different name on them.
Out of curiosity, why don’t you consider a different brand? I have a Metabo HPT drill and driver, so I am considering the recip… but these reports of terrible reliability are making me think twice.
I already knew the Hikoki would win but I just love to see something I have be praised
Just picked up that Makita double battery used for $75 and I'm glad to see that although it's not the best, that it's still more than capable and the blade change is easy
Good fair test
Nice video mate. 👍🏻
Cheers
Would love to try those blades in my hikoki 36v sabre saw. It's almost like a battery protector on the hikoki. I noticed it on the hikoki grinder to.
Between this vid and Oz Tool Talk's new track saw review I am in Sunday night tool review heaven :-).
I've been making it my duty to let everyone know about the value of Metabo HPT/Hikoki tools! They're pretty cheap compared to its competitors but beats the brakes off of them in most cases. Plus a lifetime warranty on most tools and some are also IP56 rated... ANNND. The 36V tools can be run off battery and AC! Come on!
Proper video my friend! Thanks!
Why they changed the name in the US blows my mind. Hikoki is a much better name than the confusing for no reason… Metabo HPT. That being said, the Hikoki is my #1 favorite recip saw!
Its not that confusing. Metabo is metabo. Metabo htp is what used to be hitachi.
Apparently, Lowe's said no to the name Hikoki
Yeah I live in the US and was disappointed when I heard Metabo had a cooler name outside of the us.
Amazon has the metabo hpt for $99 but make sure to click to have it put in a extra box as it ships in it's normal box which could be a problem if you have porch pirates in your area.
I love how thats a problem 🤣🤣
ACME has deals on this all the time and Lowes has had it at $99 a few times
A real money making tool for that price
My wife likes to use it with a pruning blade over a small chain saw
The best one is the cheapest one. Who knew?
Glad to hear the Milwaukee rep knew his stuff!
The word I’m hearing is that the new regular sawzall actually cuts quicker (not sure by how much) than the super. I have to presume that isn’t always the case in every scenario, however.
I have both and the fuel sawzal will cut quicker in metal. Sometimes in wood too if cutting on a bench/sawhorse but the super is unstoppable push it in and down as hard as you can for rip out and it will not slow down under load and it doesn’t get as hot as the smaller sawzal.
the smaller milwaukee i find suits me as a plumber for cutting wet pipe as the bit at the end is stainless steel and wont rust but the super doesnt have that feature....im not sure about the other brands.....or if people ever consider it when buying....unless your a plumber lol
Nice one.recently jumped on the hikoki train good to see them win a few face offs.glad to see its only 32 mm stroke.any man knows you don't bring a tool in your home that can stroke more then you.that oscillation mode though.........dunno..........mite have me there.
That Hikoki is impressive!
Cool 👍
Those blades look nice, but I never saw them at Bunnings or toolshed. Shame it's no longer, I'd like to try them out
Now all of a sudden all Milwaukee fans turn green! Im sure this took everyone by surprise!..🤣🤣
No I still love my super sawzall
I would love to give those blades a go. I'm still looking for a set that can cut a house load of rondos without bending like crazy.
Yea bro keen to try one of those blades never heard of them love your videos.. but you need to say hikoki like a Japanese man hiiiikokiiii
I have the hikoki, rarely go over the 2nd speed
I watching your video & buy the green monster hikoki 36v recip saw..great saw & its powerfull..but i loosee when vs makita 40v gen 2 recip saw
Uh, one more comment on this video: DeWalt's four position blade clamp (looks like it's not on this model) is amazing. I had a model with that feature and it came in super handy in more than one occasion. I'd like to see something like that on Makita's. It would take some engineering, but it could be done. It would make a huge difference, in my opinion.
Bang on mate, the 4 blade option is great. I've got it on my basic dewalt Sabre saw trying to find if it on some of the other ones but looks like not many have it. Makes sense to have it, especially on awkward shitty cuts. Saves you from flexing the shit out of the blade in the standard orientation.
Thanks bro. 💪🏾Hi-koki🤙🏾 Killing it again. All decent tools. It will be interesting to see Dewalt Powerstack batteries in action. Maybe if your good enough. ☝🏾🎅🏾🤞🏾Santa might bring you one. I'll Put in a choice word for you. Those blades would come in handy please. 🤗
If I'm asking Santa for tools, they won't be yellow ones.
Funny. Because I'm starting to think Makita is replacing the yellow ones for me. You made me see 👀 the light. 😂🤣
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL DeWalt still makes some good tools but I converted to red and blue after Dewalts early failure with 20V change and continued blunders/confusion with much of their line-Now I have More Green over the last 3 yrs cuz Hikoki/Metabo HPT has just made some great tools plus the lifetime warranty and AC adapter for the 36V line just makes these tools even more useful
And their air/pneumatic nailers and compressors have been making me money for 20+yrs
Feel bad that ive just got the LXGT one, but a new blade will work wonders in them, will talk to the boss bout supporting kiwi made.
This kind of hurts my dewalt feelings, but at least you could have tried the DCS389 with 9ah battery, which gives more power than 6ah. I have the flexvolt advantage myself and agree that Dewalt should improve their recip saws, as they have with their circular saws.
lol the more amps dont give you more power ffs. its still a 18v battery
@@seanmcgrath9167 the battery he used is the older cells. The 9ah has 21700
@@trentguckiean7039 the more amps does not give you more power. do you not understand simple electronics? think of the 18v as your fuel tank and the amperage as the amount of fuel you have in the tank. the motor still turns at exactly the same speed and creates the exact same torque just lasts longer the more amps you have.
@@seanmcgrath9167 nope he’s right, the 21700 cells have been proven to be better than 18650s across several brands. Having higher amp hours also generally leads to less load on each battery cell, meaning the tool receives higher operating voltage and current when being used. I also agree about using the DCS389 instead as that is the best one from Dewalt.
My milwaukee broke 2 batteries from the vibrations.
I have the Dewalt got it second hand. Still have my old Makita electric as well. Used to have nearly all Hitachi then they lost the plot. Since changing names the Hikoki gear is coming good. I have recently started buying their gear again. That framer for a start. Not surprised the sabre saw is good apart from the crap blade change.
the Hikoki is a beast but i would take blade change ease before power. Makita's system is well designed. Also I don't know why Hikoki insist on putting those useless battery gauges on their tools. 2 bars tells you nothing other than its either higher or lower than 50% charge. the battery will give you a better indication of it's charge level. anyway another informative vid cheers mate
The multivolt batteries have 4 bars on the batteries-I do wish the the 3.0 was a multivolt with 3 bars but I use the 2.5/5.0 battery on most of my tools anyway
I always have enough batteries on a job site so I don't care too much about how many bars
I’m ready.
Review the makita earth auger, I want to know if it will be a good buy for digging deck footing 4' deep, thanks
I have heard great things about the Flex recip saw. I would like to see that one in the mix
Never gonna happen.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL why?
Because they are only sold in the US.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL OK thanks for the info. Hope Chervon expands further and gets their tools into your country. Never say Never! 😀
The green Godzilla monster! Lol
Used one of the older 18v hikoki ones for a long time. Had the same blade change mechanism as the dewalt here.
Its going to break.
Can you try out the 40v Mitre saw with a 5ah battery. Would be interesting to see how long it would last or just a more in depth review of the 5ah 40v battery
I did a review of the 5Ah battery together with all the other batteries.
The first comment was the one I was looking for. Since the battery is a very important pice of the Milwaukee equation, THE 5 AMP BATTERY IS NOT THE BATTERY OF CHOUCE WITH ANY OF THE FUEL TOOLS!!!! The Torque Test Channel have proven that the Milwaukee 6 amp High Output battery is the most powerful. I tend to use the 3 amp HO battery on many of my smaller hand tools, e.g. Gen 3 and 4 Hammer Drill, Gen 3 and 4 Impact, 18 Gauge Nailer, mid torque nailer, depending on task, etc…
Once again buddy, learn what time is. If I had a time machine I could have travelled to the future and got the batteries that didn't exist in the time I was living in. Please engage your brain before you make a third pointless comment on this video.
i have the makita and i must admit its heavy often times i find myself pulling out as last resort if my multitool cant cut it.
Some closing thoughts of my own, the dewalt lever blade change system is great. However, it does wear out and you have to get the yellow part replaced. I own the hikoki and agree totally that the blade change is shit. Very harsh on your fingers with quite a bit of resistance to turn it and you still have barely any room to change when it's fully extended. Cool comparison all in all and I was very surprised to hear that you preferred the 36v mak over the 40v one. I've tried neither so will take your word for it!
ruclips.net/video/tJ3ZiABgjN8/видео.html
Hey I wouldn't mind some blades (Wellington based)
I've got a joke about construction.. but I haven't finished it yet.
kinda wish you would have also used the makita xgt just for comparison. maybe you can make a 36v vs 40v makita video?
ruclips.net/video/tJ3ZiABgjN8/видео.html
After watching this video and awesome framers I decided to purchase this and the 36v rear handle saw yet I can’t seem to find batteries or chargers anywhere
Which brand?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Metabo/Hikoko
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Dewalt is very easy to understand,their top end is:
Flexvolt with Flexvolt batteries 54v
Or
Flexvolt Advantage with Flexvolt batteries (Home Depot exclusive) 18v
Or
Power Detect with 8AH regular batteries (Lowes exclusive) 18v
And they won’t really commit to which of them is the best. Clear as mud.
Exactly.
Great comparison. Despite the battery voltage and amperage being all over the place, that's not about you not doing like for like and really about technology diverging and marketing wank. I think a better way of rationalising this (which is what you did wither intentional or unintentional) should be ranked by weight rather than by battery voltage and amps. For this particular tool, the tolerance between biggest and smallest could be 0.7 kg to 1 kg. Who cares if the a recip saw is 3.5 or 3.8 kg if there is a huge disparity in terms of performance or ergonomics? Yes, more than 0.5 kg difference will start to cause fatigue.
Pre-comment: before watching this video. I remember you prefer the 18x2 makita to the XGT, so that says something. Not sure what it says about this particular comparison to the other brands. But, I am cheering for the Makita. I will add to this comment after viewing video...
First edit: My suspicion is, any of the ones with oscillation will do better. As Makita has no cordless sawzall with this feature, how could it compete? (And why DON'T they have that feature????) And, as far as I know, they all have the same SPM, 3000, I think. Anyway, on with the viewing...
Welp, that's that. The kind of "pared down" categories you spoke about, comfort, speed of cut, what was the third? Anyway, those are what means the most. Blade change, ease of... That was it. This one boils down to what color you like, what platform you're on, and I guess price. I'm gonna rewatch your video comparing the makita 18x2 & the XGT. Will be upgrading sometime. I've been using the 18v subcompact for a number of years and love it! It constantly amazes me. It's just so small and comfy.
Ok. Cheers for the video!
maybe you can make a DJR360 (XRJ06) 36v vs (18v Makita XRJ05 (DJR187) makita video?
the hikoki is insane!
The new Makita is even better. I reviewed it a few weeks back.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL oh the 40v?
Not the 1st 40v, but the 2nd gen.
I hate the Supersawzall. But I love my second and third gen Fuel recips. 3rd gen with a 6.0 is a beast
Well I love my super sawzall no matter what its awesome.
Just a commer for this test
A lot of money was spent on the blades
Yo send me some blades, I do heaps of demo in my Commercial construction job down here in Christchurch!
And I am also a Makita fanboy but very impressed by that Hikoki!
The 60v only dewalt has the most chooch for circ saws. Flex seems 20%? less powerful
Do u need all this speed and power ,in my mind i prefer my lower power dewalt drill rather than my top or the range dewalt ,i know iam going to twist my wrist someday,same gos for recips ,u can't use the big ones if u r at full stretch
Please can you use conventional nails which are thicker than the nail gun ones which are so much thinner, thank you.
They'll go through any nails with little effort.
Makita never disappoints, though may be not always at first place. But one note for your test. On all cutting tools Makita performs best with its brand cutting discs, etc. Which are made for battery life also, not only speed. So its not only ripping fast but a balanced tool for a days work. Also Metabo =Dewalt with many tools here in Europe. In USA seems different. here in EU HIKOKI is Hitachi's cheap brand
Needing a Sawzall...always a Milwaukee!!!
That's what I used to think too
Now I just finish the job faster after going green!!
@@baseballdude8491 then your using the wrong model of Milwaukee.
I take it you didn't bother to watch the video?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yea sure did, I enjoying your videos and appreciate them!.
But been a carpenter for over 38 years (certainly doesn't mean I know everything by far) but have been through the gamut of sawzalls through the years and just sticking with the Milwaukee, been best by far for me over the years.
@@reddawgrup1779
U must not have watched the video or been on a real jobsite
Blades please sir
You definitely used an older Milwaukee Sawzall model, because it has the easy blade change lever.
No, you just don't understand the passage of time... Or Milwaukee don't know which is their best tool. Since this was filmed all these brands have released new models and the gen 2 40v Makita is the new king.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL, good to hear from you. I figured I’d receive just exact the comment you made. I’m not up on the Sawzall type tool as much as the other various types.
I do feel you were spot on with the multi-tool video. I do like my M12 Multi-Tool a lot!I also enjoy your tool test videos. You’ve got a great sense of humor…lol!
Look I live in Australia but fuck me dead I want those blades haha
Flex volt means it takes advantage of the extra power from the battery
flexvolt enables battery to work on different volts tools.Hence word flex.
Can you re do this testing with the new recip from makita?
Have you seen my Review of the new Makita Recip?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL yeah I have, I'm curious how the grj02z compares to the milwaukee super Sawzall. Your review on the x lock grinders is why I'm looking at the xgt xlock grinder
More HiKOKI 36v Reciprocating Saw Tests ruclips.net/video/dVdfjvjsniU/видео.html
I'd love some fresh blades, sick of making do with shit old blades because I'm too cheap to buy new ones. They're so freaking expensive! I'm in Auckland, hit me up. 🤙🤙🤙
Hey bro would love the blades, I'm in wellington
I've got the super sawzall and I was using it all day one day to cut nails under floorboards, and the fucker started smoking on me
Where the 40volt sawzall mate?! This is blasphemy. Jk but I’ve had a ton of issues with xgt sawzall as well. Would be great to hear your take on Them to see if we’re experiencing the same problems
Have you watched the review I did on it?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL absolutely. I’ve experienced mechanical problems. I.e. battery connection issues. Along with not being able use the 2.5 battery. Just overheats too damn quickly. Not even worth it to put it on. Abunch of little things.
Actually ran through 2 4ah xgt batteries already. Makita told me that was the first xgt batteries they’ve seen die. Must be doing something right eh
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I’ve seen all the reviews mate!
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL a working xgt sawzall vs hikoki video would be killer!
I'm just trying to figure out why you would need a sawzall on a roof...r.i.p DeWalt.
Could of tried to match watt hours 2 Makita 4 ah 1 Milwaukee 8 ah 1 hikoki 4ah but who knows with DeWalt cuz you don't know how many volts it's using but then people will complain because Milwaukee has 21700 cells and makita had 18650 so no real way to win
Makita baby
Have you tried the Makita 40v one? Does it feel the same as the 36v one???
ruclips.net/video/tJ3ZiABgjN8/видео.html
Where is the HILTI SR6
Which one a contractor will use depends on the battery system they are invested in.
BTW those 4 brands are all contractor grade, but Hilti is a contender, as is Festool, in the US, serious woodworkers tend to buy Festool, commercial contractors tend to buy Hilti.
Show me who is buying a Festool Reciprocating saw?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL The same people buying Makita's cordless framing nailers.
Yep. Believe it or not, I've actually had people tell me they have a battery only makita framing nailer.
I live in south Auckland, please send me a blade so i can slit my writs.
Obviously its a joke, hope it was a laugh lol.
Awww no Bosch?
Nope.
I've had the 60volt dewalt for 3 or 4 years now.. Its a beast and amazing! Can't believe you trashed yours, that's a sin lol
Makita xgt recip is the best one i thought ..also like hikoki -hitachi tools beasts very powerfull quailty tools
I cut an entire tree up withe the dewalt 389. The tree at the base was nearly as big as a 5 gallon bucket. Only took a 9ah battery and a 6ah battery. It is a beast.
That dewalt saw I believe sits third place in Dewalt's recipro heiarchy in terms of power. 1. dcs389 2. dcs388 3. dcs386
Why you thrown and broken the dewalt sabre saw.My heart is so painful.These are also living man made organisms without blood.
I have answers its flex
What are you talking about XGT by far the most powerful recip saw. You have excluded because you think. Feeling invalidating your test already.
The first XGT recip was shit. The new one is the best around. RUclips videos have dates. And I have reviewed bothe XGT Models.
Do we need a vaccine pass to enter the competition? 🤔
Triple jabbed.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL ok im in and in nz
Hikoki fan boy. Bias
Shows how little you know. You clearly don't watch this channel. But judging by your bias and lack of recip knowledge, I'm guessing you like the red one.
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Yes Red is my daily drivers , but after a few more research videos after watching yours 1st. I' just might buy the metabo sawzall.
You know Metabo and Hikoki are the same thing.
Bosch
I'll have those blades mate, I have apprentices to punish 👍
💥🇺🇲🖐😎
I get payed per hour I’d take makita , last forever
Acutally the best in this test is Milwaukee it has only 18Volatage battery! And Voltage give HUGE advance!
why would you remove the shoe, I mean I have an old school makita plug in and the shoe was adjustable in and out but why? I have the dewalt 60v volt which is more powerful than the flex volt advantage its a beast and I dont ever see the need to adjust the shoe.
Dewalt makes a really fast recept saw