The Tragedy at Balham

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @adamcrofts58
    @adamcrofts58 3 года назад +125

    How awful to be trapped in such a place. It's a grim subject to tackle but as ever you presented the fact superbly. Thankyou

  • @Larry
    @Larry 3 года назад +223

    Underground Tragedies migt be a good sub-series for the channel, The King's Cross wooden escelator one is one I can remember from my childhood.

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  3 года назад +90

      That’s one I want to cover. Bethnal Green is another.

    • @brianparker663
      @brianparker663 3 года назад +44

      My bro-in-law was one of the three transport coppers at King's Cross when the fire started. He got a medal from her majesty for his work that day.

    • @jameslees7103
      @jameslees7103 3 года назад +4

      @@JagoHazzard Oxford Circus Fire as well

    • @commonsense953
      @commonsense953 3 года назад +5

      Moorgate?

    • @brianparker663
      @brianparker663 3 года назад +7

      @@commonsense953 I think Jago has done a vid on that one.

  • @rjc83x
    @rjc83x 3 года назад +77

    Excellent video - I lived in Balham for many years and thought I knew pretty much everything about that awful tragedy, but thank you for proving me wrong, adding the missing details and telling the story in your unique and engaging fashion.

  • @simoncook9416
    @simoncook9416 3 года назад +12

    Some interesting stuff - I notice you filmed very recently. I am the Station Manager responsible for Balham and was instrumental in having the plaque replaced in 2016 - something that led to similar plaques being placed at Bank, Sloane Square, etc. I hope you found the visit to the station helpful. There were a number of points missed - it's a shame you didn't contact us, as I could have given you a proper tour and shown you the impact point and other noticable things. Also further damage did occur when a V1 struck the Southern Staion, assisting to create , what is now, Sainsbury's car park.

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  3 года назад +5

      Alas, I was filming piecemeal whenever my Real World job brought me through the area/when I had time to walk to Balham, so there really wasn’t a lot of planning in the shots I could get. But very well done on the plaque, it’s a very tasteful piece.

  • @robhorne3048
    @robhorne3048 3 года назад +18

    I've seen this photo of the bus in the crater loads of time but never took the time to find out about it. Thank you. Another fantastic video.

  • @janettecumlin6564
    @janettecumlin6564 3 года назад +10

    My mother lived there, she told me that for weeks afterwards she would stand at the bus stop on the way to work in Victoria, and there would be a policeman who would ask where everyone was going and stop the cars and just put the people in the cars to be taken nearer the city/ west end. No one had any say in it and you couldnt refuse. Thanks for the video.

  • @davidfleming5963
    @davidfleming5963 3 года назад +44

    I lived in Balham and remember the plaque there. Balham was a target as the German Luftwaffe could use Du Cane court as a reference. There was also a top secret communications center in a building off nightingale square.

    • @dukenukem5768
      @dukenukem5768 3 года назад +2

      I doubt that was a factor. The vast majority of bombs dropped on London were at random. In fact Wimbledon Common seems to have been more heavily bombed than Balham ( bombsight.org ). If they were targeting something as small as a single building it would have been in a daylight raid.

    • @chatteyj
      @chatteyj 3 года назад +2

      *centre

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42 3 года назад +49

    My aunt lived in Streatham & Balham was the nearest Tube station. Although it wasn't close, the walk always reminded me of Reggie Perrin's walk to the station every morning. ("Sorry I'm late CJ, wildebeest on the line at London Bridge.")
    Balham Tube station has always been my mid seventies gateway to the metropolis! I didn't know about the bombing! That image of the slurry set hard blocking those steps down into the station really brought home just how awful this tragedy was. Those poor people. The dead and the men that had to dig them out. That job must've haunted them all their lives.

    • @allenwilliams1306
      @allenwilliams1306 3 года назад +1

      Bal-ham: gateway to the South.

    • @Aengus42
      @Aengus42 3 года назад +3

      @@allenwilliams1306 That was always Basingstoke for me. As a small kid in St. Albans my Nan lived in Torbay. So during the interminable 12 hour drive (pre M5) I when I heard the magical name "Basingstoke" it meant the worst of the drive was over & it was A303, Stonehenge, more wonderful, pre dualled, pre bypasses A303 & then the beach!!So yeah, Basingstoke - Gateway to the Sun! 😎

    • @TheClockwise770
      @TheClockwise770 3 года назад

      Likewise, my Aunt lived in Du Cane Court, the attractive art deco block of flats 150 metres away. I never knew this terrible disaster had happened here some 22 years earlier

  • @PlanetoftheDeaf
    @PlanetoftheDeaf 3 года назад +4

    A heartrending story, well told. As an aside I'm really impressed that the station and line reopened only 3 months later, considering the massive damage

  • @mickontherock1
    @mickontherock1 3 года назад +2

    Yet another interesting video and respectfully done on such an awful tragedy. We should never forget those that died and the awful circumstances in which they did. Thank you Jago, and well done.

  • @sewing9434
    @sewing9434 3 года назад +13

    Thank you for the education, Mr. Hazzard. What a sad, terrible tragedy. You're doing yeoman's work in bringing these moments of history forward to new generations.

  • @pastlife960
    @pastlife960 3 года назад +86

    I went to school about 100 metres from where this happened. The disaster was a big part of my primary school lessons on WW2 and the Blitz. I seem to remember that we were split up into groups and told to act out the bus crash, and that eight-year old me decided to play the driver with a very bad cockney accent.

    • @cargy930
      @cargy930 3 года назад +24

      So long as Dick Van Dyke's Mary Poppins performance exists, you have nothing to worry about!

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 3 года назад +1

      @@cargy930 To be fair to Mr. Van Dyke he was not aware of what a cockney accent sounded like and apparently it is a difficult accent to imitate.

    • @andybaker2456
      @andybaker2456 3 года назад +6

      @@bigblue6917 He did have a voice coach to help him with the part, but I seem to remember reading somewhere that that voice coach was Irish! Millions of Londoners who probably would have been only too happy to help him out, but they decide to pick an Irish person instead. 🤷‍♂️

    • @cargy930
      @cargy930 3 года назад +5

      @@bigblue6917 I watched RUclips video recently where it was claimed that Mr VD said he was coached by one of the make-up girls. Unfortunately, said make up girl was Irish, had never set foot in London, and had no idea how to do the accent. As a result she just winged it. Nobody on the set thought to tell Dicky-boy just how bad it was either, and the rest is history!

    • @OofusTwillip
      @OofusTwillip 3 года назад +3

      @@cargy930 When I read "VD" in your comment, I thought of something very different.

  • @Suprahampton
    @Suprahampton 3 года назад +8

    As a London bus driver, i'm certain after the 88 driver had managed to get in touch with the Route controller he was told "carry on"

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk 3 года назад +4

      Having been on a London bus, I'm sure this was pretty much an ordinary day at work. I've always thought I wouldn't last a day as a London driver.

  • @dadskillz
    @dadskillz 3 года назад +22

    Brilliant video as ever, thanks Jago. I had a tragedy in Balham once involving the Tesco there and their toilets which were out of use. Fair to say It really hit the fan that day!!

  • @elizabethspedding1975
    @elizabethspedding1975 3 года назад +13

    I had never heard of this accident before. Thank-you for telling me.

    • @foamer443
      @foamer443 3 года назад +2

      An act of war not an accident.

  • @AtheistOrphan
    @AtheistOrphan 3 года назад +12

    A video on the big metal flood doors and blast doors one often sees when navigating the tube would be quite interesting.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 года назад +1

      The main flood doors are for the thames mainly, indeed that was a fear in WW2 that a bomb in the thames would knock out the bakerloo or northern thames tunnels

    • @jimtuite3451
      @jimtuite3451 3 года назад

      Yes, the gates at Embankment station down at platform level are mightily impressive

  • @mikemidulster
    @mikemidulster 3 года назад +39

    I knew about the flood, and first saw the upended bus photos in The World At War, made in 1972, but didn't realise the two were connected. There's something to learn in every video on this channel!
    The flood was used in the 2007 fantasy film Atonement.

    • @pmberry
      @pmberry 3 года назад +3

      I thought of the ending of Atonement too. A small plot point, and used to anchor it in reality, but powerful nonetheless.

    • @j.martin9774
      @j.martin9774 3 года назад +1

      used as in mentioned?

    • @pmberry
      @pmberry 3 года назад +1

      @@j.martin9774 Yes.

    • @FreGZile
      @FreGZile Месяц назад

      In the movie the water looked a bit too clean compared to the reality that has been described

  • @blackfriendlygiant
    @blackfriendlygiant 3 года назад +3

    Excellent video. Very well made and informative. Thank you. Please don't stop whag you're doing. Love this channel.

  • @thewoodys3271
    @thewoodys3271 3 года назад +14

    The tragedy occurred mid-October and the station reopened mid-January, that's a remarkable turnaround time, during a tough period in London's history.

    • @albertbatfinder5240
      @albertbatfinder5240 3 года назад

      It is amazing what can be achieved in desperate times. On the “other side” vast swathes of track and marshalling yards in the Ruhr were blown to smithereens by allied bombers, yet intelligence photos would show trains running just a few days later.

  • @TransportwithDan
    @TransportwithDan 3 года назад +35

    I've have gone to Balham an uncountable amount of times, it is weird to think that only about 75 years ago it was like that

    • @phobsdsr4326
      @phobsdsr4326 3 года назад +3

      Yes, thinking I’m closing in on 40 and this was. Less than 40yrs before I was born. Not a very long time ago considering the level of damage that site dealt with, as well as many more across central London.

    • @WillKemp
      @WillKemp 3 года назад +4

      I grew up in eastern Essex and only rarely went to London when I was a kid in the 60s, but I remember there were still several bomb sites around the west end, fenced off with corrugated iron - and no doubt there were plenty of others in other parts of London

    • @WillKemp
      @WillKemp 3 года назад +2

      Then i found myself living in London in the late 70s and there were bombs going off around the place again - courtesy of the IRA this time

    • @ianhelps3749
      @ianhelps3749 3 года назад +2

      @@WillKemp I remember in the Mile End Road in the 1980s, there were still several buildings with bomb damage to the top floors, while the ground floors were still in use as shops etc.

  • @andrewclarkehomeimprovement
    @andrewclarkehomeimprovement 3 года назад +3

    Thank you for making this. Presented very appropriately. As you said, we're all familiar with the image of the bus in the crater. We can only imagine the terror those poor people on the platforms felt. Just one of the many horrors of war where ordinary people on all sides suffered.

  • @PeacefulSlumber
    @PeacefulSlumber 3 года назад +4

    Two of my favourite topics in one video! Thank you! I found this fascinating (despite the tragedy of the subject)
    🤗

  • @cjr6564
    @cjr6564 3 года назад +7

    Thanks for this video Jago. I never knew about the Balham disaster I only knew of the Bethnal Green Bomb so it was extremely informative. A very sobering and thoughtful video. My mother was injured in a V2 explosion at Belvedere so I have an understanding of the lasting memories these events cause.

    • @AtheistOrphan
      @AtheistOrphan 3 года назад +4

      The Bethnal Green disaster was not caused by a bomb, but by mass panic at anti-aircraft rockets being fired nearby. Which makes it even more tragic.

  • @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081
    @keepingitrealandtruthful.5081 3 года назад +3

    I worked at one time in neighbouring Tooting at one point and I never knew about this dispite having passed through Balham on a Monday to Friday basis. Thank you for this as I have learnt something today.

  • @boohaka
    @boohaka 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for revealing what was behind the quite iconic pictures of the bus that had fallen into the crater, I for one didn’t know that. I can’t imagine what it was like to live in those times. This was indeed tragic and you’ve treated it with great respect.

  • @lyndahennell
    @lyndahennell Месяц назад

    Many thanks to you Jago, a well told story. My great uncle sadly died in this tragedy, so it is well known in our family. He was a porter and his body was found with a phone in his hand trying to summon extra help. I saw the original plaque when I was about 10 years old when my mother took me to Balham to see her uncle's memorial in the early sixties. I also did a short interview on Riverside Radio when they did a piece on the tragedy. I didn't know that it had been kept quiet for a few years though!!!

  • @SparkieGoth
    @SparkieGoth 3 года назад +1

    May their memories be a blessing. I had no idea about this. Good on you for bringing it to the attention of those who didn't know.

  • @dylanlincoln856
    @dylanlincoln856 3 года назад +1

    As a resident of Balham I really appreciate this video.

  • @paulinehedges5088
    @paulinehedges5088 3 года назад +1

    Fascinating and informative as ever but what a very sad story. Thank you for giving us these videos.

  • @laszlokaestner5766
    @laszlokaestner5766 3 года назад +12

    My grandmother would have been there in the shelter and reckoned that she would have been one of the ones killed as she normally slept in the worst affected area. Thankfully she was on duty that night with the ARP as she worked for the Home Office as a typist and they were encouraged to volunteer. Probably one of the few times when being on top of a building was safer than being under ground.

  • @Otacatapetl
    @Otacatapetl 3 года назад +2

    I was born in Balham, and though this happened before my birth, my elder brother took a photo of the bus-in-the-hole. Still got it somewhere...
    We lived in Upper Tooting and that whole area was on the bombing run for Clapham Junction where my dad worked, which was a huge target. My friends and I spent much of our childhoods playing on the many bombsites, which weren't fully cleared up till the 1960s.
    My brother used to tell me stories of the raids. There was an AA gun on a railway wagon, with a few wagons of ballast coupled to it, parked in a siding at Wandsworth Common. They'd listen to it going off at night:
    "Bang clang, clang, clang, clang..."

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  3 года назад

      Interesting, I have heard of that gun, but I didn’t know it was used there. It would make a lot of sense. Thanks!

  • @stevebluesbury6206
    @stevebluesbury6206 3 года назад

    Every picture tells a story, but sometimes the picture becomes iconic and sheds it’s story on the way. Thank you Jago for bringing back the story and being prepared to tell the harrowing facts.

  • @ryandavis7593
    @ryandavis7593 3 года назад +1

    I have seen that photo of the bus numerous times and never thought about it much. I had no idea that it was this significant.

  • @RobertBrown-ty7he
    @RobertBrown-ty7he 3 года назад +1

    A sad, but most interesting story...and very well told Jago.

  • @ShedTV
    @ShedTV 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for an informative film about an incredibly sad event. I've seen the iconic bus photograph many times and thought how frightening it must have been for those onboard, but I had no idea that such a tragedy had occurred below ground.

  • @crosstraindoublebay4637
    @crosstraindoublebay4637 3 года назад +2

    I lived in “The Gateway to the South” for a few years whilst living in London. Loved it. Saw the plaque, now I know.

  • @shaunwest3612
    @shaunwest3612 3 года назад +2

    Great video jago, a very sad and tragic story😞.

  • @carlybishop6160
    @carlybishop6160 3 года назад

    Thanks for sharing this. I had never heard of this before. It is sad that these stories aren't so commonly known

  • @martinhumphrey624
    @martinhumphrey624 3 года назад

    As a result my grandfather, John C Stevens, was set the task of putting in the replacement handrail in the little western entrance. It was his only work on transport networks, although he did some of the replacement windows at Parliament. He also did the window frames with the original glass at Hampton Court which remained until around the millennium.
    An amazing series of videos - many thanks.

  • @bigaspidistra
    @bigaspidistra 3 года назад +3

    The shelter provision for those without gardens to sink their own was a problem but the the options other than the Underground was either a reinforced table to hide under or the above ground communal shelters which if hit often ended up with the occupants being crushed by the concrete ceiling slab. No wonder the public took things into their own hands.

  • @phobsdsr4326
    @phobsdsr4326 3 года назад +9

    Great information here that I never knew. Tragic story and unbelievable level of damage.
    Someone got curious and was responsible for the death of themselves and many others. Very sad!

  • @annstewart4731
    @annstewart4731 3 года назад +4

    You referred to Clapham South and showed a picture of Clapham Common. Very interesting as usual and something of which I knew nothing. Thank you.

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  3 года назад +3

      That shelter is on the Common, but it’s next to Clapham South.

    • @derekcable
      @derekcable 3 года назад +1

      I worked in the lift pool of the PSA (public service agency) in the late 80s early 90s working on the lifts which went down into the deep shelters @ Clapham South/Clapham North.
      Fascinating bit of engineering as they were below the northern line with at the time blocked of access to to tube platforms above.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 года назад

      @@JagoHazzard yes the clapham common section is just off on the high road !!

  • @rogermeboy
    @rogermeboy 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @Rusty_Gold85
    @Rusty_Gold85 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for enlightening me . I always knew of the U/Ground Stations but little of the cases of tragedy

  • @stevenflebbe
    @stevenflebbe 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for a very interesting account. It strikes me how the wars have created bits of Tube and railroad history of a sort that we, fortunately, have never had on our transit and transport systems here in the States. We've had tragic incidents and disasters...but nothing like 1,000 kg bombs!

  • @mryeti1887
    @mryeti1887 3 года назад +2

    I read The Splendid and the Vile over the summer which details the period of the blitz. I cannot begin to imagine what it was like. The book touched on a subject that I didn’t think about. You would endure bombing all night then still have to go to work in the morning. Your commute could be hours longer as roads might be blocked. Your house may not have any windows left or your roof leaked due to shrapnel tearing holes in the shingles. The mental and physical exhaustion had to be overwhelming. The one humorous part was that once the bombing started you had to shelter in place. Many a young couple would scurry off at dusk to meet their mate and well then you had to stay with them all night as it was required by law.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 3 года назад +1

    I, like many people, have seen the photograph of the bus in the crater. But I was not aware of the rest of the tragic story. So I thank you for this additional information.

  • @timsully8958
    @timsully8958 3 года назад +3

    I lived in Trinity Crescent in the early 90s, which is further up the road towards Tooting. Although Tooting Bec was nearer, if I arrived by British Rail or needed to get some shopping I would get off at Balham and just walk the rest. Certainly a terrible story which I only learnt of from talking to an elderly neighbour, who took us under her wing a bit. She had lived in the area since the 1920s and I think her dad was involved in the rescue too cos he was a volunteer fireman or ARP warden or something. I rather liked the way the film “Atonement” incorporated the event into its storyline.
    In an unrelated incident, one evening in 1993 or 1994, after having alighted at Balham to do some shopping, my then girlfriend and I set about walking home. It was cold and we wondered about popping into the pub next to the station for a quick drink. However, thankfully my missus decided she’d rather open a bottle when we got in and we carried on walking under the bridge. It was only later we found out that within half an hour of passing the pub, some nutter had gone in and shot someone! 😳

  • @dukeofaaghisle7324
    @dukeofaaghisle7324 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for producing an interesting video on this tragic subject. Another wartime tube story you might consider is Wanstead on the Central Line - apparently it was used as a munitions factory.

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  3 года назад +1

      That whole area of the Central Line is one I need to go into in detail, there’s a lot to talk about.

    • @dukeofaaghisle7324
      @dukeofaaghisle7324 3 года назад

      @@JagoHazzard Newbury Park’s iconic bus shelter for one!

    • @dukeofaaghisle7324
      @dukeofaaghisle7324 3 года назад

      If you do feature Wanstead, there’s another railway snippet just down the High Street in the corner of Grosvenor Road and Nightingale Road. It’s a church that used to be where St Pancras Station now stands, taken down stone-by-stone and reconstructed at its new home. In the process, it changed denomination. It’s rather special to me as the church where I married my lovely lady many years ago.

  • @vespelian5769
    @vespelian5769 3 года назад

    Nicely explained as ever. This was my local station from 1985-86. There are some dark spots and presences in London and on the Underground but I never felt anything untoward at Balham.

  • @1963salvator
    @1963salvator 3 года назад +1

    No mention of one the heroes of the Balham tube disaster. John Rundle (64) was a member of the Salvation Army at Wimbledon Corps in London. He was the station master at Balham Underground station. On the night of 14 October 1940 about 700 people were on the platforms at Balham when a 1,400kg bomb fell on the high street fracturing the gas and water mains that lay above their heads. Thousands of gallons of water filled the station. One of the victims was John Rundle. Mr Rundle stayed on the phone calmly giving information to those responding to the emergency on the other side of the blocked tunnel. As the flood waters rose he must have known that he would not be rescued but his actions helped others to be saved.

  • @corinheathcote9868
    @corinheathcote9868 3 года назад +1

    Sad subject, but well covered. Thanks

  • @BarryAllenMagic
    @BarryAllenMagic 3 года назад +15

    Truly horrendous. It must have given other people elsewhere in London at the time, great concern as to whether their tube station could realise a similar tragedy.

    • @eattherich9215
      @eattherich9215 3 года назад

      Quite. I have never liked the idea of going underground to be safe.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 года назад

      @@eattherich9215 It looks like the doors would have held, the idea was less to shelter from a direct hit, but more from flying debris and bigger stuff nearby. The risk was seen as better than being at home - though most folk were encouraged to have shelters in their gardens I suppose the likes of Du Cane Court would have found that difficult.

  • @LeveyHere
    @LeveyHere 3 года назад +1

    How interesting, thanks! It's morbidly interesting to see these events, especially since I'm not from the U.K.

  • @janscattergood7294
    @janscattergood7294 3 года назад +1

    A significant part of history although sad. Very interesting. Thank you. x

  • @phobsdsr4326
    @phobsdsr4326 3 года назад +8

    I thought the image of the bus on 07/07/05 was bad. I’ve never seen these images till now. Almost impossible to imagine a day in London at the height of the war. Shocking stuff!

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 года назад

      there are more of trams that got hit, if you dont know about bethnal green as an incident that was worse, but star lane (?) school i think was the biggest london single place loss of life.

    • @bluecardholder
      @bluecardholder 3 года назад +1

      Many buses, trams and Trolleybuses were destroyed by bombing, or by V1 & V2 bombs resulting in high causalities.

    • @phobsdsr4326
      @phobsdsr4326 3 года назад +1

      bluecardholder it’s really bad, but still don’t believe we’ve seen the worst of humanity yet. Man causes destruction in the pursuit of power. 😤

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk 3 года назад +1

      @@phobsdsr4326 No, we have not. But in 3 years, when the oncoming, bottomless depression really start to hurt most people, when TFL & NHS are making redundancies, and even civil servants being let go. Then we'll see what the human race is all about. It won't be pretty at all. And this will be the direct consequence of a few privileged leaders and their hunger for wealth and power. We had until now forgotten we are ruled by an oligarchy. Mr Hancock is a millionaire, so is Mr Johnson. And the Chancellor is on his own worth ten times as much. They are among the very few making millions on this scam they are running together.

    • @phobsdsr4326
      @phobsdsr4326 3 года назад

      Shane Warne 💯 And they are a cog in a big global wheel. However, after much suffering, the wheel will fall off and much injustice will be corrected, I just hope I survive the tsunami to see it happen. Stay wise, alert and be ready for anything. Never be deceived by the lunatics and be on the right side of history. That’s my aim and hope anyway.

  • @johnhooper7040
    @johnhooper7040 3 года назад

    Tut tut, Jago describing the Northern line tube as the Underground! Especially as you had pointed out this common error in a previous video. Apart from that this was another fascinating 'tale from the tube'

  • @jimtuite3451
    @jimtuite3451 3 года назад

    0.26 - love that photograph. I have visions of a Heinkel navigator with an A to Z in front of him shouting 'told you I'd find it!'

  • @davethewanderer9887
    @davethewanderer9887 3 года назад +3

    My Grandfather was the driver of the tram in front of the bus in the crater, her was at the top of the hill when his clippie told him what had happened behind them, as the feed was from Clapham South he was able to get to the inspector there and report what had happened. Very lucky that was twice the Germans had failed to kill him, in ww1 he was driving a empty ammunition wagon with 4 horses when a dud shell hit the wagon.

  • @johncrwarner
    @johncrwarner 3 года назад +6

    I have friends in Balham
    and when in London often stay there
    I had no idea of this incident
    Next time I am in Balham
    I will have a look for the memorial
    and take a photo.

    • @cargy930
      @cargy930 3 года назад

      At first I thought
      you were trying for
      a haiku or sonnet.
      Then I paid a visit to your channel
      and read of your interest and emulation
      of Lillian R. Lieber.
      All became clear:
      You're in on the conspiracy;
      the one created by SIE.
      Do not think we are fooled!
      :D:D:D

    • @johncrwarner
      @johncrwarner 3 года назад +1

      @@cargy930
      I put the note on my channel page
      because so many people
      kept asking me why.
      Thank you for taking the time to visit it
      and comment.
      I find it helpful to write this way
      my other influence was the
      Italian free-verse poet Stefano Massini
      who I met through his verse play / novel
      "The Lehman Trilogy"

  • @pbsa1979
    @pbsa1979 3 года назад +4

    Would be interesting to see a piece on "How flood defences on the London Underground work"
    Isn't it fascinating that these tunnels hardly ever get flooded?

  • @CCA2020
    @CCA2020 3 года назад +3

    I love in Clapham South so this episode feels really special to me. Especially how Clapham South gets hardly any recognition

    • @crossleydd42
      @crossleydd42 3 года назад +2

      How brazen of you to tell us where you love, but where do you actually live???? You are so right in saying how Clapham South is a nonentity. I travelled the Northern Line daily from Tottenham Court Road to Morden for some years, and probably got on or off most up to Stockwell, but never CS. Don't even know what the entrance looks like!

  • @rosenamarshall5502
    @rosenamarshall5502 3 года назад +1

    My grandmother and aunt were killed in this disaster . It took 6 weeks to recover their bodies . Margaret and grace Lyle , they came from Lambeth .

  • @send2gl
    @send2gl 3 года назад +1

    Wow, seen the images before, didnt realise the devastation, amazing that it was fixed so quickly during wartime.

  • @DaraM73
    @DaraM73 3 года назад +2

    Lordship lane/Broadwater farm had a deep level shelter that took a direct hit, killing hundreds. Granted, it’s not a train line, but the wars worst civilian loss of life in London.

  • @limeyosu2000
    @limeyosu2000 3 года назад

    Best But safest video to date! Bit this needed to be covered thank you for making this one.

  • @6yjjk
    @6yjjk 3 года назад

    4:06 If deliberate, that commentary with that ad is a stroke of twisted genius.

  • @vespadavidson2315
    @vespadavidson2315 3 года назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @shauntodd7123
    @shauntodd7123 3 года назад

    It sinks the heart to these stories.

  • @claas901
    @claas901 3 года назад +6

    Bombing civilians is one of the worst things people can do to one another during war. The Luftwaffe started it, the RAF stroke back, everyone suffered on both sides.

    • @samuelfellows6923
      @samuelfellows6923 3 года назад

      I think Hitler and the Nazis [and the German Air Force in WW1] had the idea of blowing-up/killing citizens (war from the air/sky) to de-morale our war-effort - imagine your a solider on the front line, killing the enemy and suddenly get a letter/telegram saying that the enemy is bombing/doing air-raids over your country and that your dearest has been killed with a bomb 😱 a small amount of soldiers were put-off and defected from the front line and the army

    • @thefreedomguyuk
      @thefreedomguyuk 3 года назад

      May I just point out that it was indeed the British who started out that malarkey ? The first deliberate bombing raid against civilians was the 1940 RAF raid against Berlin. The very limited number of bombs which earlier had been dropped on Oxford Street were a mishap, something Mr Churchill was well aware of.
      The Oxford Street incident was an accident, the bombing of Berlin was a war crime.
      So you do need to get your knowledge fact checked.

    • @claas901
      @claas901 3 года назад +1

      @@thefreedomguyuk Just looking at Germany and the UK you are right but what about Poland and Rotterdam? The RAF's attacks were a response to those bombings as well. But I think we shouldn't argue over who did what first. Fact is that civilian bombings are a war crime no matter what the circumstances are.

  • @theefishlippedone
    @theefishlippedone 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant. Very informative

  • @MrVxrman
    @MrVxrman 3 года назад

    A very good well researched video.
    Thanks for sharing 🙂🍻👍🏻

  • @JBB4118
    @JBB4118 3 года назад +19

    And yet ,Londoners kept on going day after day .Respect as always.

    • @paulbennell3313
      @paulbennell3313 3 года назад +2

      "The station didn't open again until January." If it happened now the rebuild would take a couple of years! Progress...

    • @atraindriver
      @atraindriver 3 года назад +4

      The one thing that's true of any war, anywhere in the world, is that day-in, day-out there are many, many ordinary people just trying to get on with their lives while mayhem erupts around them. Because... what else can they do?

  • @ianhelps3749
    @ianhelps3749 3 года назад

    In Munich there was also an incident of a bus falling into a crater in the 1990s. During construction of the new U-bahn line to the Messestadt, the road above the tunnel collapsed. An approaching bus could not stop in time and fell into the hole. Sadly, three people were killed.

  • @AcornElectron
    @AcornElectron 3 года назад +2

    Keep up the good work fella and stay safe.

  • @andrewatherton316
    @andrewatherton316 3 года назад

    Of course I’d seen that iconic photo and I had ridden through that junction from all directions but I had not put the two together. This video has certainly cemented them firmly in my memory. When I am next on the Northern Line I’ll stop and seek out that plaque.

  • @eattherich9215
    @eattherich9215 3 года назад

    Flicking through the RadioTimes for the coming week's broadcasts, there is a colour photograph of that Balham bus in the crater. It is used as a backdrop to Dr Lucy Worsley's 90 minute documentary on the 'Blitz spirit'.

  • @daveconyard8946
    @daveconyard8946 3 года назад

    Thank you Jago. looking forward to the next ,keep safe 👍

  • @gugapenteado7834
    @gugapenteado7834 3 года назад

    Very interesting, but also tragic. I had never heard about this incident. Amazing

  • @HHM706
    @HHM706 3 года назад +2

    My Mum grew up in Balham and she was 6 when this tragedy, her Mother would never shelter in the tube station during raids, might of saved my Mums life🤷

  • @pogglefishii6807
    @pogglefishii6807 3 года назад +3

    Amazing testament to how the country was back then; utter devastation caused during the the greatest war the country had ever faced, and yet they still had the station and street cleaned up, repaired, and open again in just three months.
    Imagine if that sort of efficiency could be applied to today’s railway engineering projects.

    • @atraindriver
      @atraindriver 3 года назад +1

      The unfortunate truth is that, were we in the same position today, we'd lose the war simply because there would be too many self-important, self-serving managers stopping anything from ever getting done. "My piece of paper says that you can't do that!" is unfortunately responsible for a horrendous amount of today's inefficiency.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 года назад

      @@atraindriver much of the work would have been done by a mix of retired builders , arp, and italian pows (if there were any then)

    • @atraindriver
      @atraindriver 3 года назад

      @@highpath4776 None of whom would be allowed anywhere near the works today, unless they could pull the wool over Der Manijumts' eyes. I've worked adjacent too many over the past few years, manijurs (can't call them managers, they generally couldn't manage to find their way out of a very short pipe) who would prefer to watch teh world end than to move even an inch out of their comfort zones or (heaven forfend!) actually Make A Decision.
      Hmm, given the era we're discussing, perhaps any such manijurs could be offered indelible pencils; it would be interested to see how long it took them to work out how to use them and then to watch them panic over "lead poisoning" and "blue tongue". ;)

  • @BibtheBoulder
    @BibtheBoulder 3 года назад +13

    Thank you for posting such a poignant video. Tragedy of the highest order......

  • @davidsheriff8989
    @davidsheriff8989 3 года назад

    Tragic story of the times.....well researched and narrated as expected...

  • @CyclingSteve
    @CyclingSteve 3 года назад +6

    I lived there for a while and remember the old very small plaque, good to see a more fitting memorial.
    As well as Bethnal green, Bank station was also hit destroying the main ticket hall, the blast wave travelled through the tunnels killing and injuring all the way down to platform level.
    More info: ww2today.com/11th-january-1941-51-killed-in-direct-hit-on-bank-station

  • @robertskrzynski2768
    @robertskrzynski2768 3 года назад +1

    When I did a an English course at the Tooting and Streatham Adult Education Institute in the late 60's our Teacher had been one of the People clearing up Balham Station after this event and because of the state of the bodies that were being recovered he lasted one and half shifts working there. To his knowledge nobody lasted a week although the pay was very high he told us he got paid £20-00 for 11 hours work.

  • @iankemp1131
    @iankemp1131 3 года назад +1

    A salutary reminder of this sad event. As pointed out in other comments, a similar tragedy occurred at Bank and a smaller one at Bounds Green, as well as the Bethnal Green crush which is worth a video, especially with the "Stairway to Heaven" memorial. In general things were cleared up and lines reopened far faster in the war (and postwar) than now, when even minor incidents can close lines for hours or days because the police insist on treating it as a crime scene.

  • @Supesfan88
    @Supesfan88 3 года назад

    That photo of Churchill was in the main hall of my high school in Scarborough (Ontario, Canada). I learned there that he LOATHED that photo of himself. High School's name is Winston Churchill Collegiate Institute.

  • @ashleyhamman
    @ashleyhamman 3 года назад +4

    You've talked about the Widened Lines recently, and now about WWII station damage. Might there be room to combine the two and talk about the history of Aldersgate/Barbican station?
    It's such a great example of a cut-and-cover station, and there's still bits of support from when it was covered by glass.

    • @cargy930
      @cargy930 3 года назад +2

      I always wished they could find the funds to recreate the original Barbican canopy. It can be done: When I lived in Bournemouth they rebuilt the long-missing staion canopy. It transformed the station.

  • @MrFookface
    @MrFookface 3 года назад

    Fascinating! Thank you

  • @JamieBoy-ij2ri
    @JamieBoy-ij2ri 3 года назад +2

    Either this or Bethnal Green tragedy.. one of my Great Nan’s friends and her daughter perished and my Nan who sadly died in the pandemic last year aged 91 remembered her mum telling her the heartbreaking news back all those years ago.

  • @Steamtramman719
    @Steamtramman719 3 года назад

    The distaff side is surely Peter Sellers and his "Bal-ham, Gateway to the South". The LT class bus, which had been evacuated, was eventually repaired.

  • @1974UTuber
    @1974UTuber 3 года назад +15

    Australia never knew air raids like that.
    I have never known war like that.
    Certainly a frightening time to be alive.
    I pray none of us ever has to face whistling death from the skies or war like that ever again

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 года назад +1

      There are more photos of bomb damage on the tfl museum website, south wimbledon for example, folk repairing the roof after a night of incendry bombs. A HE was dropped on merton high street too, but it failed to go off , the Royal Engineers UXB bloke told mum if it had gone off much of the area would have been remoddled.

    • @bluecardholder
      @bluecardholder 3 года назад +3

      There were several air raids over Australia by the Japanese which resulted in many civilian deaths . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raids_on_Australia,_1942-43

    • @1974UTuber
      @1974UTuber 3 года назад +2

      @@bluecardholder Yes but I don't think we ever saw the scale of destruction here that England received on an almost nightly basis.
      I can't imagine what that would have been like to patch the roof one day only to lose the entire house, street or even suburb the next night.
      I hope it never comes to that ever again.

    • @bluecardholder
      @bluecardholder 3 года назад

      @@1974UTuber It was very localised and not constant throughout the war. Some parts of London hardly saw any enemy damage, and that goes for many small towns, especially once the blitz had ended and the V1 & V2 started and that was concentrated towards the South East.

  • @robinfryer479
    @robinfryer479 3 года назад

    The ‘Bus is a London Transport, (AEC) “LT” 6X4. You can see the inter-axle propeller-shaft, off-set to the left side (NS). I can’t quite discern whether the differential casing, on the leading axle, also incorporates an inter-axle differential. What I can say is, that I have heard eye witness observations that if they braked heavily, even I’d the rear bogie wheels all locked up, they hardly deviated (side-swiped) from straight ahead.

  • @Regnbuesolv
    @Regnbuesolv 3 года назад +8

    Great video Mr Hazzard! Nearly at 100k, well deserved!
    Also, hate being that person, but in your video description the year was put down as 1949 as opposed to 1940. I blame modern keyboards being awkward.

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  3 года назад +4

      Thanks for pointing that out, I’ve corrected it.

    • @Regnbuesolv
      @Regnbuesolv 3 года назад +1

      @@JagoHazzard you're most welcome, Mr Hazzard! 😊

  • @terezar880
    @terezar880 3 года назад

    Thank you for the informative video!

  • @Peasmouldia
    @Peasmouldia 3 года назад +3

    Gas main blowbacks caused a lot of secondary damage from bombing. Detonation would overwhelm anti-blowback devices. A bomb that hit a main at Redbridge flashed all the way over to the NTGB works at Ilford.
    Thanks JH.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 года назад +1

      (NTGB - oh north thames gas board - is that the one around the east ham little ilford area?

    • @Peasmouldia
      @Peasmouldia 3 года назад

      @@highpath4776 Correct. On Ilford lane. My Dad was a chargehand there in the 1950-60s. That's how I knew about the flashover.

    • @highpath4776
      @highpath4776 3 года назад

      @@Peasmouldia More accurated the island in the Roding (covered in a walk recently on YT by one of the east of london walkers ), where Britannia Music/ Sainsburys have ended up, before my time in the area and I only recall the other gas installations around the area.

  • @Bunter.948
    @Bunter.948 3 года назад

    As to the Kings Cross fire, I believe that some research was done (by the Government's Fire Research Establishment) on the optimum angle for chimneys to improve the flow, and the Kings Cross escalator was exactly that! Simon T

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  3 года назад

      Interesting. I do plan to cover the Kings Cross fire at some point. I shall have to bear that in mind.

  • @66PHILB
    @66PHILB 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video. Just the right tone. BTW, how about a video on the wartime use by Plessey electronics of the unopened Leytonstone to Gants Hill section of the Central Line. An underground factory using the Underground? Sounds like a job for Jago!

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  3 года назад +1

      That whole length of the Eastern Central Line has a lot of potential, and as soon as I can, I’ll be over there.

  • @barron204
    @barron204 3 года назад

    The subs keep coming in. Loving these videos.

  • @kathrynmiller4240
    @kathrynmiller4240 2 года назад

    I lived near Tooting Bec till recently. I couldn’t walk through Balham without looking at the road and picturing that famous crater and bus, trying to make myself understand that it really happens right here. Or, getting off at Balham tube station, I’d look up at the brass-ringed clocks thinking about the photos of this very platform buried in slurry almost up to the bottom of those very clocks. The evidence of the blitz is everywhere in london. Someone once said to me, when you see a supermarket in certain parts of london assume that’s where a bomb detonated - that’s why there was land there to build on.