I think the single shot 12 ga is an overlooked gem. I still have my H&R that I bought in 1984. I put her away when I bought my first pump. Years later I brought out “punchy” for fun. I used that shot gun for years for rabbit, and deer hunting. I brought it back out when I bought a clay thrower and I was dusting the clays. I forgot how fun it was. It is light, easy to clean and it was inexpensive. She lets you know she’s there when you pull the trigger, but if you know her well, she will deliver rabbit, deer and what ever you ask of her. The best part is she is very low maintenance and high performance. What more can you ask?
I bought a used Winchester 370 single shot 12 ga, 30 inch full choke, when I was 25 yrs The guy bought it new when he was 25 yrs and kept it until he was 45 yrs and couldn't stand the kick anymore. When I reached my 50's I put a pad on it absolve the kick. I used it for 37 yrs and then bought a 12 ga pump for home defense. I still keep my single shot for varmint control.
I picked up a H&R single shot 223 for under$200 bucks at a gun show about 15 years ago. At that time H$R had a barrel program where you could pick up additional bbls for from$75-125 each. I added 22 Hornet, 44Magnum, 35 Whelen, 45-70 plus, over the years I added options like thumbhole laminate stocks..even got two more receivers all from 2nd hand sellers. Basically, I got 5 accurate rifles for under a grand over a 15 year stretch of scrounging. I like the utility of that.
I had an old 22 growing up that I kept on me camping until I was probably 16. I used that thing as a crowbar, a hammer, on one occasion I even used it as a fishing rod. That’s why I love kids rifles. They’re cheap, handy, light, and can replace half of the stuff in my truck.
I remember my father told me that they sold Ak-47's and other automatic weapons on the street for about $75 where he lived. This was about 25 years ago before he moved to the US.
An H&R single 20 was what my dad bought me when I was 10. That gun and 2 boxes of bird shot was less than $40. That was a great start for a kid getting started.
That's awesome. I never knew about H&R until I moved to Oregon. Grandparents have a 9-shot 22LR H&R revolver. It's fun to shoot and relatively reliable for a 22.
@@oregondude9411 I remember those, a top break model with a 6" barrel. Gosh, that was 45 years ago, hope I'm thinking about the right gun. We had one of those, wouldn't know where it went. Yeah, H&R was a great old company that made guns for everyday folks to use. They were sturdy, had blued finishes with walnut-stained wood. The blue was not like a Colt or a Winchester on any level and the wood was not walnut! Strictly for knocking around on the farm and being tossed behind the seat of the old truck, just in case you saw a Diamondback! I recommend #6 shot, works wonders on rattlesnakes... LOL!
I can carry my 3 guns, no problem, total weight, silenced, scoped etc is 10.5 lbs, like a loaded garand. 60 gr Subsonic Aquila .22 ammo is 100 rds to the lb and is BB gun quiet thru the 223 silencer and the .22 unit and you can have a 30 rd box mag of it in the gun. It's dark half of the time and once it's dark, there's almost no advantage for any caliber over the silenced, subsonic .22lr autorifle. The caliber swap takes just 10 seconds, and the .22 unit weighs just 3/4 lb. 60 gr 223 softpoints weigh 35 to the lb, ditto 9mm ammo. 308 ammo is 18 rds to the lb, 12 ga shells are 10 to the lb, .45 and .30Ak are 22 to the lb. So I get to carry 50x as much ammo as the 12 ga users, have 3x the effective range, pierce soft armor, conceal the rifle under a jacket (taken down) and the 12 ga user can't find ammo even 10% as well as I can, post shtf. He has no silencer, either. I figure on 50 rds each, 223 and .22lr, cause there's plenty more cached. I only carry 1 spare mag of the 9mm ammo, so that's just 5 ozs.
454pakr: Now 454pakr, my theory is that Twain ruined it for all of us who want to write humor! So why come along and throw water on my theory. Stop it! JWC
Comes from a different time of smithing. Modern nails are thin and bend easily, the expression comes from the time where nails were the large iron square cylinder chunks that you often see in media depicting the colonial/antebellum period, and those suckers were really tough. About as tough as you'd expect a 5 lb solid chunk of wrought iron to be.
Nails didnt used to bend until bush outsourced everything starting in the early nineties our nails came from turkey you could look at them hard and they would bend
Fun review. You forgot my Savage 410/22 over under. Taken deer with 410 slugs, shot tons of stuff with the 22, quail with bird shot... If I could only keep one, the savage would be it.
Nice interesting video. I have two of those guns, a 12 gauge 870P from 1984, a Mosin M44 (Izhevsk 1944) and a Rossi 62 SAC pump (S, L, LR) that compares with the Henry excepting that it can't easily be scoped. The Rossi has no disconnector so it will fire as fast as you pump. Good practical choices, gentlemen.
@Nathan Lizarraga Its worth it as long the ammo are available and cheap. That gun can do anything outside speed plinking on youtube. And only TFB TV doing speed plinking competition.
My concealed carry is a Gen 2 Glock 19 (which is considered by many, myself included, to be just about the perfect concealed carry handgun) which is a police trade in. Other than holster wear, and the night sights needing to be replaced, the gun is in great condition. What I really love about it, though, is that it was previously owned by the Washington DC Metro Police. Like most of their Glocks, the serial number begins with MPDC instead of three letters followed by three numbers like retail Gen 2 Glocks. The reason why I love this so much is because Washington DC, and many of the higher-ups in their police department, are very anti-2nd Amendment and anti-concealed carry. It just feels like a big FU to the DC police department that my concealed carry gun used to be one of their duty guns.
Those ignorant fools need to up their reading. You would think an LEO would have at least some semblance of an idea of where gun crime comes from. More Guns , Less Crime by Dr. John Lott jr. good place to start.
Guys....303 has even to this day killed more deer in NZ than all other calibres combined due to govt cullers being issued this ammo for free. Its not as powerful as 30-06 but not a long way behind. I have a sporterised .303 and it still shoots 2" groups at 350yards.God only knows how many rounds have been through it but im guessing lots.
Love the Henry Pump .22s. In Australia where semi-auto .22s are not available to most licensed shooters, pump-action rifles like the Henry fill that space for feral rabbits/cats/foxes where you may need a quick followup shot.
I've been shooting for about 50 years now. Started when I was knee high to a grasshopper. Nothin' wrong with any of the guns you chose. Mostly going to depend on whats available and what you can afford at the time. for simplicity keeping the calibers few is a good idea. Spending money on fewer types of ammo means having more ammo for the calibers you shoot. Reloading is always a good way to go. Two things generally happen when you shoot a lot. First you get to be a better shot with the guns and ammo that you shoot the most. Second is your wallet gets thinner and lighter as you push dollar bills out the end of your barrel.
I've had my eye on a Savage Axis in .308. I totally agree with you guys...I have guns that are my babies, but I like them too much to expose them to the elements. But a cheap, reliable, beat all to hell 20 or 12 gauge topper, and a good, inexpensive .22 are necessities. I had an H&R 20 gauge topper that I loved, because it could be pressed into any service I needed, and I wouldn't cry if I dinged it. Picked up used at a gun show. I love my show ponies, but everybody needs a good workhorse or two. Interesting topic. Thanks for the vid!
I got the .22 Henry lever action for that sole reason that it can use S/L/LR ammo. You can even mix them in the tube. Great little rifle. Great for prepping.
We also have the alligator mob running south Florida They own all the property in Miami-Dade County and the Florida keys. They eat Russian mobsters for breakfast
Love the Remington you talked about around 13ish minutes into it, reminds me of my H&R Pardner Protector I picked up from Walmart for $179.99 and promptly fell in love with. Bought it to be a whatever gun, but I ended up replacing the Mossberg 590 with this as home protection! It shoulders better than my Mossberg and the cheap heavy steel would be one hell of a club if it ever came to that. Walmart special light put on the tube like yours as well I love it, though mine is lacking the camo duracoat you did to yours unfortunately.
Those 12 gauge cheap single shots have a new purpose now with the 7" rifled insert kits that shoot anything from .22-9mm-44mag plus .410 and 20 gauge so you get about 12 calibers to shoot out of a single shot break action and the kits are only a couple hundred bucks, gives you a lot of fun and survival application as well. It would be awesome to see a video on this, the results would be very interesting to see. Nice video!
I use an O/U 12ga. for everything. Crows, small game, turkey, and deer. I cant shoot deer at long range but I never really have a chance to see long distances where I hunt. I used to think you needed 3 guns but falling in love with 1 specific gun has totally changed my thinking.
I would look at the 357 Mag revolver as more utilitarian. Shoot 38 Sp. or you can add a couple of shot shells in your options. And have all loaded at once. Of course the 44 mag/44 Special is an option too.
If you get a break action 12 gauge you can use adapters (they make Rifled ones up to 18+ inches long now) in a huge variety of calibers. You can also get adapters (or use old spent brass) and you can load them like a muzzleloader with black powder and shot or whatever turns you on. I really think a single shot, break action 12 gauge is the most utilitarian gun you can own. I mean you can get one cheap as hell, will work almost indefinitely and have a huge variety of options with it.
Nice compilation. As there are so many different people everyone has a plan. Me personally, I cross ref caliber. So i have a revolver and lever in 357/38. I also have fun target utility with a bolt 22 and a browning buckmark pistol.... and of course a 12g. Stevens pump. Eats and spits out every type of shell i've tried thus far... but i have t tried the cutshell yet. Lol.
I have an M77 in 22/250. Stainless with a laminate stock. I have a suppressor on it that makes it slightly heavy but what a piece of kit. Bought it second hand and I've found its bang on accurate
Amen to the gen three. I carry my 17 while kayaking in the pacific off the California coast. Fits nicely inside my PFD and the salt water has not hurt it one bit. I simply clean it when I get back to the house and all is good.
Evropa Khan I heard they fly in Canada, so must be Russia where they have motorcycle gangs. Although, I’m pretty sure they ride unicycles rather than motor bikes.
replace the Glock with a.357 revolver and have the option of 2 calibers and shot loads. not knocking your Glock but shot loads work better on snakes and rats.
My little Baikal 12 guage single barrelled shotgun is always in my vehicle exactly for those reasons, low priced, many different applications, well marked with dings and scratches, light... but also intimidating, uses low priced ammo, easy to use, reliable.
A word of caution on the Remington 870's. Pay careful attention to the age of the gun and shell length they're chambered for. It's common (especially with the older original 870 Wingmaster's) to find them with aftermarket barrels that might say chambered for 3 inch shells; when in reality the receiver is only chambered for 2 and 3 quarter inch shells. If you try and put a 3 incher into one of those, it won't eject properly and will jam things up pretty dang quick.
Nothing wrong with a Savage Axis. I've got a .243, and a .223. I shot a 3.25" 5 shot group from 300 yards the other day with the .223. I've got both triggers set at 2lb 6oz. Great inexpensive rifles.
I acually just bought my first gun today just having to wait for the background check/waiting period to end. Just wanted to say that it was your vids that got me into guns and for that I thank you.
Hunter from Germany here: No clue how the supply is for you guys in the US, but our go-to utilitarian rifle is the Mauser 98. It's incredibly safe, reliable and easy to use with pretty little need for maintainance. You can pick up dirt cheap WW2 surplus rifles or rifles from elderly hunters. Pop a cheap scope on it and shoot anything in Europe up to like 200 meters. The caliber 8x57 is cheap, packs a lot more bang than a .308 (7,62x51) and is, at least with the soft points I use, absolutely and instantaneously(!) lethal to anything. So if you come across some old '98 in the proper 8x57IS caliber, I more than recommend to try it out. Best wishes and a "Waidmannsheil" from Germany :)
I would love for ammo manufacturers to make a 90 grain .223 round. I've seen hand-loaders use them for deer and they performed quite well. I actually wander how well would an 80 grain that Hornidy makes would do against a deer.
My grandfather let me bring his jc higgins bolt action shotgun to a skeet range. I attempted to shoot skeet with a full choke antique older than my grandfather. It needs part of the extractor replaced. On the claws that pull the shell one is broken before he had it and they shoddily fixed it.
calvingreene90 idk why so many people overlook sporter rifles. I own many previously “sporterized” milsurp rifles. If you’re gonna shoot it, no big deal with putting on another “correct” stock. Always keep the original close by, though.
@@artemisarrow179 Really? "The" Jews? The people who illustrated that "only accurate slings are interesting" and by accurate shooting brought down Goliath? The people who gave us the Uzi and who US troops and pilots learn from? Really?
@@alexcarter8807 Yeah, Israel has one of the largest weapons industries relative to population size. It's probably on par with the US in that regard. I personally don't see the problem with sportification. 99% of rifle usage falls under plinking or hunting (aka sporting). And sporting guns (including shotguns and pistols) tend to be reliable and rugged enough for self-defense.
What's great about a single shot shotgun is all the tube inserts different companies make nowadays...literally can shoot any caliber you can think of basically from one gun. When I hear "utilitarian" I think of versatility. One on my list would be an over/under combo gun such as a Savage Model 42 (.22 over .410). Don't remember,but there was a gun maker that made a combo of your choice of either .308 or .223 (or maybe it was .222?) over 12 or 20 ga. Possibly an older Savage model?
i never understood why people think you need a 3 1/2" magnum shell for turkey... a 2 3/4" shell works perfect. all it takes is 5 pellets to the head to effectively kill... i actually read a study that said a 3 1/2" magnum turkey load kicked harder than a .458 winchester i believe... its sad when a load used to kill a 20 pound bird kicks harder than a load used to kill an elephant
Detective John Kimble people are getting into a power craze... all they want is more power at any cost when they don't even need it. a load of #4 out of a 2 3/4" shell will kill a turkey just as cleanly.. you don't need to blow the head clean off
David Howe...just want you to know I totally agree with you, but I am part of the power craze because I like it! 2.75" works fine (and did for a long time) but I use 3" almost exclusively now and use the big boomers when I'm feeling frisky! Lol 😂
The kick argument is a nonesense. You cannot compare a shotgun and a rifle on the kick. You need to take into account what you are shooting at the target. A single bullet vs a load of pellets. Try to kill an elephant with a shotgun and I believe you will need something longer than 3 1/" if you are throwing pellets at it.
I love a .22 that takes s, l, or lr. I grew up shooting cb's at my cousins place learning firearm safety and plinking. Suppressors haven't been widely available in my area for long, so back then they were unheard of.
Old timer here. I would take a stainless wheelgun over a glock personally. A Taurus 962 would be perfect. 38/357/9mm 7 shot, in the mid 500s. Ammo versatility, plus not sensitive to different loads as auto loaders can be. From 38 soft loads to 357 mag 180 gr hard cast buffalo bore loads, to widely available (usually) 9mm with a quick cylinder change, it is 'bigly' utilitarian. Of course a Ruger, SW, Colt, all are great. but The Taurus is cheaper, and I have never had any issues with a Taurus wheelgun.
My personal go-to for bolt actions is Savage... Of course, I grew up with one so that makes a difference. But you're spot on here. Bolt action rifle, .22 anything, 12 or 20 gauge shotgun. If you need (want is different) anything else, you need to rethink your life
I can think of a couple other utilitarian guns, but my #1 is the Savage 24F 30-30/12 gauge. It was also available in several other calibers including 223/12 and also in 22/410. A more modern version called the model 42 is 22/410 as well.
Eric, I know this is off topic, but this pertains to the 600 yard shooting vids. I think it will be interesting to see you shoot an M91/30 at that range. Not decked out or anything, just a normal off-the-shelf 91/30.
My personal favorite utilitarian gun is my Thompson center contender g2 can be pistol or rifle very simple pretty much any cartridge on the planet can be fired out of it with a barrel change
I bought a NEF 12 gauge back in the 1980's for $97.00 at K-Mart. Best all around shotgun that I have. It can be 'converted' to black powder, shooting all sizes of shot, slugs, and even .72 caliber 'pumpkin balls'. The addition of shotgun inserts, allows one to shoot most pistol caliber calibers. I chose .45 Colt/410. And like you pointed out, with a 3" chamber, you can use it for turkey, as well. And then you can shoot regular 12 gauge ammunition through it, too.
10/22 Mossberg 535 (three barrels: short turkey barrel, long regular barrel and deer/slugs rifled barrel with cantilever scope mount) Sig P320 (lower priced than the Glock 17/19 brand new) SKS Henry .45-70 lever action all-weather or not
my first gun was a stevens (savage arms now) break action shotgun I got from my grandpa. full choke 35 in barrel, kicks like a mule, but my favorite part of single shot guns is that they teach you how to make your shots count. especially for new shooters
I lucked into a sporterized kar98 re-barrelled in .308 with an old school Weaver scope for $295. Was picking up ammo and saw it on the wall. Yay magic find deer rifle. Added bonus, was still dialed in at 200 yards.
Yes you can you can even bring it out alone. The only firearm you cant have are handguns. But you can't buy guns and ammo until your 18. But you can posses them.
Have a Ruger 350 LEGEND, Savage .308, .22 m69 Romanian, and a .50 muzzle loader in bolt action. All great guns. The savage I had the trigger done to about 1.4 lbs still drop safe all are very accurate and all were inexpensive.
You said it in this video. "If it gets stolen out of your truck" There is a huge crack down here in Florida(and I am sure elsewhere) on guns stolen from vehicles or homes where the victim of the crime is put at fault because a piece of their property was stolen. Why isn't a bank put at fault for a bank robbery because of all the random money laying around? I have had guns stolen. I was younger and could not afford a safe, or was too young and naive and thought that I would not have been burglarized in the first place. Why are victims constantly accused of being the cause of their loss or pain when it is the perpetrator of the crime, and usually a felony, that should be the one ostracized? Sometime tanks are stolen off of military bases, bulldozers off of construction sites, but a guy looses his truck gun is the detriment to society. A bulldozer can do a hell of a lot more damage than a Mossberg 500.
Loved the bit about "people buy a nice expensive hunting rifle and then never take it out cause they're afraid it'll get dinged up". This exactly. I had a Sig Nightmare 1911 that was fantastic for carry, home defense, you name it..but it was expensive and I babied it. I ended up selling it and buying a CZ82 because I didnt want to have to think twice before actually USING the gun. Also I had a friend who bought a Glock. Spent nearly a grand upgrading it to make it the perfect carry gun. Once he was done he literally bought the exact same gun and kept it stock and carried that one instead because his upgraded one was too risky to use in the field lmao. It's crazy but this is some of the shit to think about
nathan rash I don't really care for savage rifles cause once you get into bigger calibers (which is what we primarily run due to better range and more power) that recoil is harsh as hell
You boys forgot or perhaps don't know about them, that is the Savage model 24's. An over/under rifle-shotgun that were made in a bunch of caliber/gauge combos.
Bolt-action centerfire rifle: I have a Lee-Enfield Model 1 Mark 3 in .303 British caliber with an aftermarket 'sporter' stock. It is accurate, dependable and enough power with the right loads to take down just about any large game in North America. And it is in good shape for it's age (barrel/action dates from 1933) but not something that's so pretty or expensive that I have to worry about getting dings and scratches on it. Just a good, tough accurate rifle.
I think the single shot 12 ga is an overlooked gem. I still have my H&R that I bought in 1984. I put her away when I bought my first pump. Years later I brought out “punchy” for fun. I used that shot gun for years for rabbit, and deer hunting. I brought it back out when I bought a clay thrower and I was dusting the clays. I forgot how fun it was. It is light, easy to clean and it was inexpensive. She lets you know she’s there when you pull the trigger, but if you know her well, she will deliver rabbit, deer and what ever you ask of her. The best part is she is very low maintenance and high performance. What more can you ask?
I bought a used Winchester 370 single shot 12 ga, 30 inch full choke, when I was 25 yrs The guy bought it new when he was 25 yrs and kept it until he was 45 yrs and couldn't stand the kick anymore. When I reached my 50's I put a pad on it absolve the kick. I used it for 37 yrs and then bought a 12 ga pump for home defense. I still keep my single shot for varmint control.
I have an h&r .58 cal. Mostly used for noise making but shoot it now and then. Pait $75.
I still use my hr 12 gauge my dad bought me when I was 10. I'm 55 now.highly overlooked.
I got a 3 break actions single shots and they're among my favorites! A 16 & two 20ga. Looking for a 12 ga. Now.
Multi caliber adapters are also great for single shot shotguns.
I picked up a H&R single shot 223 for under$200 bucks at a gun show about 15 years ago. At that time H$R had a barrel program where you could pick up additional bbls for from$75-125 each. I added 22 Hornet, 44Magnum, 35 Whelen, 45-70 plus, over the years I added options like thumbhole laminate stocks..even got two more receivers all from 2nd hand sellers. Basically, I got 5 accurate rifles for under a grand over a 15 year stretch of scrounging. I like the utility of that.
There's a group that you have forgotten...."buying the top of the line, and treating it like shit." They're out there, I've met many.
i hate to admit that this is me with guns but im frugal as hell with everything else
I'm in the group of buying a cheapo gun and treating it like a $3000 gun
Might as well get your moneys worth
@@Zurgo-fl1kx nothing wrong with taking care of what's yours.
I had an old 22 growing up that I kept on me camping until I was probably 16. I used that thing as a crowbar, a hammer, on one occasion I even used it as a fishing rod. That’s why I love kids rifles. They’re cheap, handy, light, and can replace half of the stuff in my truck.
"no gun is disposable" i think the liberator would like to disagree with you there XD
Isaac lichtenstein have you seen a S & W m & p 15-22? It's the Bic lighter of .22's.
Laughs in Welrod...
Anthony Kuriger welrods aint cheap mate
Laughs in garbage rod
Jason .C the garbage rod can do a backflip on my focking dick
I remember my father told me that they sold Ak-47's and other automatic weapons on the street for about $75 where he lived. This was about 25 years ago before he moved to the US.
They were 175 in usa years back
Your father Yost to live in Africa. That's true you can get them for about 150 dollars now. There cheap there.
My dad "liberated" an AK-47 from a third world hellhole for free.
@Homer Simpson the ban was in 1986
$200 in Chicago rn. Might get shot trying to buy one though.
An H&R single 20 was what my dad bought me when I was 10. That gun and 2 boxes of bird shot was less than $40. That was a great start for a kid getting started.
That's awesome. I never knew about H&R until I moved to Oregon. Grandparents have a 9-shot 22LR H&R revolver. It's fun to shoot and relatively reliable for a 22.
@@oregondude9411 I remember those, a top break model with a 6" barrel. Gosh, that was 45 years ago, hope I'm thinking about the right gun. We had one of those, wouldn't know where it went.
Yeah, H&R was a great old company that made guns for everyday folks to use. They were sturdy, had blued finishes with walnut-stained wood. The blue was not like a Colt or a Winchester on any level and the wood was not walnut! Strictly for knocking around on the farm and being tossed behind the seat of the old truck, just in case you saw a Diamondback!
I recommend #6 shot, works wonders on rattlesnakes... LOL!
Yup same here, a Harrington And Richardson Junior Model 20ga
And I was10.
The trouble with those utilitarian guns is that now I have to buy a truck to throw it into.
Lol!
My "truck" gun rides in the back of a 60's beetle.
454pakr or get a hog and hang it on a side. Easy to grab as you ride.
I can carry my 3 guns, no problem, total weight, silenced, scoped etc is 10.5 lbs, like a loaded garand. 60 gr Subsonic Aquila .22 ammo is 100 rds to the lb and is BB gun quiet thru the 223 silencer and the .22 unit and you can have a 30 rd box mag of it in the gun. It's dark half of the time and once it's dark, there's almost no advantage for any caliber over the silenced, subsonic .22lr autorifle. The caliber swap takes just 10 seconds, and the .22 unit weighs just 3/4 lb. 60 gr 223 softpoints weigh 35 to the lb, ditto 9mm ammo. 308 ammo is 18 rds to the lb, 12 ga shells are 10 to the lb, .45 and .30Ak are 22 to the lb. So I get to carry 50x as much ammo as the 12 ga users, have 3x the effective range, pierce soft armor, conceal the rifle under a jacket (taken down) and the 12 ga user can't find ammo even 10% as well as I can, post shtf. He has no silencer, either. I figure on 50 rds each, 223 and .22lr, cause there's plenty more cached. I only carry 1 spare mag of the 9mm ammo, so that's just 5 ozs.
454pakr:
Now 454pakr, my theory is that Twain ruined it for all of us who want to write humor! So why come along and throw water on my theory.
Stop it!
JWC
Back in my younger days, the most common utilitarian rifle was a .303 or perhaps a 30-30 winchester
a good ol lee enfield will drop anything with a good shot
I dont understand the saying "tough as nails"
I cant tell you how many nails I've had bend
Maybe i shouldn't ever be a carpenter idk
Comes from a different time of smithing. Modern nails are thin and bend easily, the expression comes from the time where nails were the large iron square cylinder chunks that you often see in media depicting the colonial/antebellum period, and those suckers were really tough. About as tough as you'd expect a 5 lb solid chunk of wrought iron to be.
But nails used to be square not round and think that's were that saying comes from
Nails didnt used to bend until bush outsourced everything starting in the early nineties our nails came from turkey you could look at them hard and they would bend
There's different kinds of nails, nowadays a lot of nails you buy are cheap and made to a price to he "good enough" for a purpose.
I'm not an american or english but i heard that the saying came from crucifying when the romans conquered europe.
Fun review. You forgot my Savage 410/22 over under. Taken deer with 410 slugs, shot tons of stuff with the 22, quail with bird shot... If I could only keep one, the savage would be it.
Nice interesting video. I have two of those guns, a 12 gauge 870P from 1984, a Mosin M44 (Izhevsk 1944) and a Rossi 62 SAC pump (S, L, LR) that compares with the Henry excepting that it can't easily be scoped. The Rossi has no disconnector so it will fire as fast as you pump. Good practical choices, gentlemen.
Mosin Nagant: A club with a barrel and trigger.
I love mine.
I love how the mosin makes it into like 90% of the 5 guns videos. It's such a bad ass rifle.
It's a little harder to find a $150 mosin these days
stupidbluebird I got a good one for 120 a couple months ago
Moist nugget
pawn shops are a good place for mosins
@Nathan Lizarraga Because even TFB tv admit they are cheap.
@Nathan Lizarraga Its worth it as long the ammo are available and cheap. That gun can do anything outside speed plinking on youtube. And only TFB TV doing speed plinking competition.
My concealed carry is a Gen 2 Glock 19 (which is considered by many, myself included, to be just about the perfect concealed carry handgun) which is a police trade in. Other than holster wear, and the night sights needing to be replaced, the gun is in great condition. What I really love about it, though, is that it was previously owned by the Washington DC Metro Police. Like most of their Glocks, the serial number begins with MPDC instead of three letters followed by three numbers like retail Gen 2 Glocks. The reason why I love this so much is because Washington DC, and many of the higher-ups in their police department, are very anti-2nd Amendment and anti-concealed carry. It just feels like a big FU to the DC police department that my concealed carry gun used to be one of their duty guns.
Those ignorant fools need to up their reading. You would think an LEO would have at least some semblance of an idea of where gun crime comes from.
More Guns , Less Crime by Dr. John Lott jr. good place to start.
Guys....303 has even to this day killed more deer in NZ than all other calibres combined due to govt cullers being issued this ammo for free. Its not as powerful as 30-06 but not a long way behind. I have a sporterised .303 and it still shoots 2" groups at 350yards.God only knows how many rounds have been through it but im guessing lots.
@@dougfisher5687 .303 has plenty of power. Good big game calibre.👍
If you have a 22, a 12ga and a full power rifle (30-06, 270, 280, etc) and there's nothing you can't do
A 308 counts as full powered?
Except good long range hunting...Weatherby gang...or 300 win mag
Love 22mag always have to have them kill everything in my woods with it
And a medium bore sidearm.
So 2 12 gauges a 22 a 9mm a ar15 and an sks I should be good right?
Love the Henry Pump .22s. In Australia where semi-auto .22s are not available to most licensed shooters, pump-action rifles like the Henry fill that space for feral rabbits/cats/foxes where you may need a quick followup shot.
It's hard to get more utilitarian than a good old pump action 12 gauge. The amount of uses is unmatched by any other firearm.
Eh, I’d say an AR or AK gets up there.
I am looking for a M1 Garand, for many reasons. My dad used it in WWII and Korea. And they are good and hold up.
I've been shooting for about 50 years now. Started when I was knee high to a grasshopper. Nothin' wrong with any of the guns you chose. Mostly going to depend on whats available and what you can afford at the time. for simplicity keeping the calibers few is a good idea. Spending money on fewer types of ammo means having more ammo for the calibers you shoot. Reloading is always a good way to go. Two things generally happen when you shoot a lot. First you get to be a better shot with the guns and ammo that you shoot the most. Second is your wallet gets thinner and lighter as you push dollar bills out the end of your barrel.
Absolutely. However, having a wider range of calibers comes in handy when different ammo in not available.
@@joehaney5186 that's when you look into multiple caliber guns
@@davidgomez5116 that's what I said.
@@joehaney5186 agreed then
Except Mosins cost $300 now
slushbubs your not kidding. i dont know much but i know that online it says they are 70, in gun stores its like 320!
slushbubs lol I bought an m38 at an auction in December for $80.
Tyler Hulan I'll give you $85 for it
slushbubs lol I bet you would. I'm keeping this one forever. Its got some cool trench art carved into the stock.
Damn! I want to see a pic of that! Sounds neat.
I've had my eye on a Savage Axis in .308. I totally agree with you guys...I have guns that are my babies, but I like them too much to expose them to the elements. But a cheap, reliable, beat all to hell 20 or 12 gauge topper, and a good, inexpensive .22 are necessities. I had an H&R 20 gauge topper that I loved, because it could be pressed into any service I needed, and I wouldn't cry if I dinged it. Picked up used at a gun show. I love my show ponies, but everybody needs a good workhorse or two. Interesting topic. Thanks for the vid!
The Remington 870 is the best shotgun you can buy in my opinion. I love mine, I use that more the any other shotgun I have.
Jason Carskadon try the 870 wing master
I got the .22 Henry lever action for that sole reason that it can use S/L/LR ammo. You can even mix them in the tube. Great little rifle. Great for prepping.
I think about Barry every time i hear cut shells
White&Privileged,
Same here. RIP Barry
MoreAmerican rip barry!
White&Privileged same it literally causes me to tear up a bit. Been watching since I was a little kid
White&Privileged me too 😔
Thystaff Thywill
🙄
Only the stupid, uneducated, unskilled, and lazy ones maybe.
Man, the USA must be a rough place to live. Farmers having to deal with motorcycle gangs of bears.. that's rough.
Adam M A motorcycle gang bear kidnapped my drinking buddy Wesley last night. I miss him already.
We we do have hells angels so close enough
It gets worse...
We also have the alligator mob running south Florida
They own all the property in Miami-Dade County and the Florida keys. They eat Russian mobsters for breakfast
The struggle is real
Love the Remington you talked about around 13ish minutes into it, reminds me of my H&R Pardner Protector I picked up from Walmart for $179.99 and promptly fell in love with. Bought it to be a whatever gun, but I ended up replacing the Mossberg 590 with this as home protection! It shoulders better than my Mossberg and the cheap heavy steel would be one hell of a club if it ever came to that. Walmart special light put on the tube like yours as well I love it, though mine is lacking the camo duracoat you did to yours unfortunately.
12 gauge singles are awesome but I’ve always liked the inserts you could get that could ultimately put any round through it and it’d be fine
Been a while since I’ve watched this channel and I forgot how much I enjoy listening to you guys talk about guns. Keep up the great content!
Came here cause I knew I'd see a mosin. I used to hunt brontosaurus with a mosin, now ask yourself, when's the last time you've seen a brontosaurus
Just saw one the other day, my friend shot with an m-24, it ignored him. I shot it with my Mosin and it fell over.
History channel shows them running around the Congo
Yep, just like a video can’t be done without the work Glock being mentioned.
Thank you for your service, now we don't need to carry Mosins any longer in fear of brontosaurs.
Those 12 gauge cheap single shots have a new purpose now with the 7" rifled insert kits that shoot anything from .22-9mm-44mag plus .410 and 20 gauge so you get about 12 calibers to shoot out of a single shot break action and the kits are only a couple hundred bucks, gives you a lot of fun and survival application as well. It would be awesome to see a video on this, the results would be very interesting to see. Nice video!
I clicked on this thinking "top of the list HAS to be a beater 12 gauge!" YEEAAAH BUDDY!
Well shotgun launches multiple projectile at one shot
Plus its smooth bore no need to clean every now and then
I use an O/U 12ga. for everything. Crows, small game, turkey, and deer. I cant shoot deer at long range but I never really have a chance to see long distances where I hunt. I used to think you needed 3 guns but falling in love with 1 specific gun has totally changed my thinking.
I find myself strangely drawn to this category of gun, I don't know why lol
@The American Patriot There is beauty in simplicity.
I would look at the 357 Mag revolver as more utilitarian. Shoot 38 Sp. or you can add a couple of shot shells in your options. And have all loaded at once. Of course the 44 mag/44 Special is an option too.
I would love to see a top 5 budget, collectable, or self-defense revolver video. Thanks, these videos are always great!
it's 2017, where have you found a mosin for $150?
Gunbroker
Moist nugget
I found one for $100 and a free box of ammo but the stock was all cut up and I just put a new one on and it’s good.
Lol I know the feeling last one I bought was a 91/30 for 79.99 at Dunhams when I was 20 35 now lol those were the days
Got mine from my LGS for 185$
If you get a break action 12 gauge you can use adapters (they make Rifled ones up to 18+ inches long now) in a huge variety of calibers. You can also get adapters (or use old spent brass) and you can load them like a muzzleloader with black powder and shot or whatever turns you on. I really think a single shot, break action 12 gauge is the most utilitarian gun you can own. I mean you can get one cheap as hell, will work almost indefinitely and have a huge variety of options with it.
Nice compilation. As there are so many different people everyone has a plan. Me personally, I cross ref caliber. So i have a revolver and lever in 357/38. I also have fun target utility with a bolt 22 and a browning buckmark pistol.... and of course a 12g. Stevens pump. Eats and spits out every type of shell i've tried thus far... but i have t tried the cutshell yet. Lol.
also I love when chad picks an old military surplus gun and then gets so eager to explain and reason why he chose it lol
I miss the old man. He was cool.
omg been waiting for a 5 guns video for so long thank u
I have an M77 in 22/250. Stainless with a laminate stock. I have a suppressor on it that makes it slightly heavy but what a piece of kit. Bought it second hand and I've found its bang on accurate
Amen to the gen three. I carry my 17 while kayaking in the pacific off the California coast. Fits nicely inside my PFD and the salt water has not hurt it one bit. I simply clean it when I get back to the house and all is good.
As if a mosin is $150 anymore
Exactly. Cheapest I can find is over $1000.
@@IceAge20017 Why they are going for 300
@@IceAge20017 $350 for a carbine version, $400 for a regular version out where I am.
Not Vladimir Putin you can buy em at cabaleas for like $350
Exactly all these channels on RUclips the prices r always off prob depends on area as well
"motorcycle gang of bears".. I feel like that's a Canadian or Russian joke.. 🤔😂
Or Key West.
Or both
Evropa Khan I heard they fly in Canada, so must be Russia where they have motorcycle gangs. Although, I’m pretty sure they ride unicycles rather than motor bikes.
replace the Glock with a.357 revolver and have the option of 2 calibers and shot loads. not knocking your Glock but shot loads work better on snakes and rats.
Wesley Kish Some single-action .357's even have 9mm conversion cylinders
They make shot loads in 9mm.
@@MikeDCWeld And?
My little Baikal 12 guage single barrelled shotgun is always in my vehicle exactly for those reasons, low priced, many different applications, well marked with dings and scratches, light... but also intimidating, uses low priced ammo, easy to use, reliable.
A word of caution on the Remington 870's. Pay careful attention to the age of the gun and shell length they're chambered for. It's common (especially with the older original 870 Wingmaster's) to find them with aftermarket barrels that might say chambered for 3 inch shells; when in reality the receiver is only chambered for 2 and 3 quarter inch shells. If you try and put a 3 incher into one of those, it won't eject properly and will jam things up pretty dang quick.
No 4 inch .357?
I know, a four inch 357 or 44 are both more versatile than a glock for sure...
Glocks come in .357
@Mr S, not .357 magnum...
I know, I'm just being pedantic. Heh
Mr S Glocks come in 357 not .357 357 SIG (.355 caliber) .357 Magnum (.357 caliber)
I still expect him to say "Eric and Barry"
Nothing wrong with a Savage Axis. I've got a .243, and a .223. I shot a 3.25" 5 shot group from 300 yards the other day with the .223. I've got both triggers set at 2lb 6oz. Great inexpensive rifles.
Also really great for kids and their first gun hunt nice simple and accurate rifle
Agreed. Ruger American is in that same category. Very accurate for the price
I acually just bought my first gun today just having to wait for the background check/waiting period to end. Just wanted to say that it was your vids that got me into guns and for that I thank you.
Hunter from Germany here: No clue how the supply is for you guys in the US, but our go-to utilitarian rifle is the Mauser 98. It's incredibly safe, reliable and easy to use with pretty little need for maintainance.
You can pick up dirt cheap WW2 surplus rifles or rifles from elderly hunters. Pop a cheap scope on it and shoot anything in Europe up to like 200 meters.
The caliber 8x57 is cheap, packs a lot more bang than a .308 (7,62x51) and is, at least with the soft points I use, absolutely and instantaneously(!) lethal to anything.
So if you come across some old '98 in the proper 8x57IS caliber, I more than recommend to try it out.
Best wishes and a "Waidmannsheil" from Germany :)
I have 3 pump action shotguns (870 is 1 of 3), all 3 in 12 gauge, and love them all.
I would love for ammo manufacturers to make a 90 grain .223 round. I've seen hand-loaders use them for deer and they performed quite well. I actually wander how well would an 80 grain that Hornidy makes would do against a deer.
Although not recommend, ive killed deer with 17hmr. But maybe check out the 70gr TSX loads. Theyd do good if the shot was perfect
Im surprised a 410 or 38 wasn't on that list for the ammo capabilities
My grandfather let me bring his jc higgins bolt action shotgun to a skeet range. I attempted to shoot skeet with a full choke antique older than my grandfather. It needs part of the extractor replaced. On the claws that pull the shell one is broken before he had it and they shoddily fixed it.
Best gun channel on youtube. Two coolest chillest guys on the net right now
Why do all there military rifles have to be sporterized . My grand dad to this day uses a k98 that his dad brought back from ww2
They call it sport so the Jews won’t try to ban it
Because the non-sporterized are collector items and are too expensive too be a utilitarian gun.
calvingreene90 idk why so many people overlook sporter rifles. I own many previously “sporterized” milsurp rifles. If you’re gonna shoot it, no big deal with putting on another “correct” stock. Always keep the original close by, though.
@@artemisarrow179 Really? "The" Jews? The people who illustrated that "only accurate slings are interesting" and by accurate shooting brought down Goliath? The people who gave us the Uzi and who US troops and pilots learn from? Really?
@@alexcarter8807 Yeah, Israel has one of the largest weapons industries relative to population size. It's probably on par with the US in that regard.
I personally don't see the problem with sportification. 99% of rifle usage falls under plinking or hunting (aka sporting). And sporting guns (including shotguns and pistols) tend to be reliable and rugged enough for self-defense.
What's great about a single shot shotgun is all the tube inserts different companies make nowadays...literally can shoot any caliber you can think of basically from one gun.
When I hear "utilitarian" I think of versatility. One on my list would be an over/under combo gun such as a Savage Model 42 (.22 over .410). Don't remember,but there was a gun maker that made a combo of your choice of either .308 or .223 (or maybe it was .222?) over 12 or 20 ga. Possibly an older Savage model?
i never understood why people think you need a 3 1/2" magnum shell for turkey... a 2 3/4" shell works perfect. all it takes is 5 pellets to the head to effectively kill... i actually read a study that said a 3 1/2" magnum turkey load kicked harder than a .458 winchester i believe... its sad when a load used to kill a 20 pound bird kicks harder than a load used to kill an elephant
Those 3.5 inchers sure are fun though!!! Sending that kind of power down range just makes me happy! :D
Detective John Kimble I'm just saying you don't need a giant shotshell to kill a 20 pound bird.
Detective John Kimble people are getting into a power craze... all they want is more power at any cost when they don't even need it. a load of #4 out of a 2 3/4" shell will kill a turkey just as cleanly.. you don't need to blow the head clean off
David Howe...just want you to know I totally agree with you, but I am part of the power craze because I like it! 2.75" works fine (and did for a long time) but I use 3" almost exclusively now and use the big boomers when I'm feeling frisky! Lol 😂
The kick argument is a nonesense. You cannot compare a shotgun and a rifle on the kick. You need to take into account what you are shooting at the target. A single bullet vs a load of pellets. Try to kill an elephant with a shotgun and I believe you will need something longer than 3 1/" if you are throwing pellets at it.
Picked a M77 mk2 paddle stock up a few months ago, 91' in .223. Even has the same scope as this one! Probably my favorite gun in the safe right now!
I love a .22 that takes s, l, or lr. I grew up shooting cb's at my cousins place learning firearm safety and plinking. Suppressors haven't been widely available in my area for long, so back then they were unheard of.
hello thanks for the videos. i have a 20 gauge Ithaca gun single shot with a modified barrel. any thoughts
A .30-06 will go from 120 grain to 220 grain. Everything from wood chucks to Cape buffalo...
Love my savage axis 30 06
I've got a couple of 240s laying around
@@dakotamcgee4577
240's? Hand load or factory?
Robert Cherry either way it’s a heavy round that many would like
I've read with handloads you can go as low as a 55 grain in 3006
Old timer here. I would take a stainless wheelgun over a glock personally. A Taurus 962 would be perfect. 38/357/9mm 7 shot, in the mid 500s. Ammo versatility, plus not sensitive to different loads as auto loaders can be. From 38 soft loads to 357 mag 180 gr hard cast buffalo bore loads, to widely available (usually) 9mm with a quick cylinder change, it is 'bigly' utilitarian. Of course a Ruger, SW, Colt, all are great. but The Taurus is cheaper, and I have never had any issues with a Taurus wheelgun.
My personal go-to for bolt actions is Savage... Of course, I grew up with one so that makes a difference. But you're spot on here. Bolt action rifle, .22 anything, 12 or 20 gauge shotgun. If you need (want is different) anything else, you need to rethink your life
I can think of a couple other utilitarian guns, but my #1 is the Savage 24F 30-30/12 gauge. It was also available in several other calibers including 223/12 and also in 22/410. A more modern version called the model 42 is 22/410 as well.
That is real utility.
Eric, I know this is off topic, but this pertains to the 600 yard shooting vids. I think it will be interesting to see you shoot an M91/30 at that range. Not decked out or anything, just a normal off-the-shelf 91/30.
My personal favorite utilitarian gun is my Thompson center contender g2 can be pistol or rifle very simple pretty much any cartridge on the planet can be fired out of it with a barrel change
I'm surprised I didn't see an AK or AK platform weapon on the table
I bought a NEF 12 gauge back in the 1980's for $97.00 at K-Mart. Best all around shotgun that I have. It can be 'converted' to black powder, shooting all sizes of shot, slugs, and even .72 caliber 'pumpkin balls'. The addition of shotgun inserts, allows one to shoot most pistol caliber calibers. I chose .45 Colt/410.
And like you pointed out, with a 3" chamber, you can use it for turkey, as well.
And then you can shoot regular 12 gauge ammunition through it, too.
Ammo availability means a lot. My old pump 12 gauge Mossberg always works.
Great topic!
You just validated all my life choices lol.
I was laughing when you said mosin at the end cause I have one but I almost died when you said british 303 ,cause I have that too!
10/22
Mossberg 500
Glock 17
AR15 (colt 6920 or s&w sport)
Lever action 30-30 or 30-06?
Wild cards:
Judge or governor revolver
357mag lever action?
Hunter Jordan you just named mu whole collection wierd...
10/22
Mossberg 535 (three barrels: short turkey barrel, long regular barrel and deer/slugs rifled barrel with cantilever scope mount)
Sig P320 (lower priced than the Glock 17/19 brand new)
SKS
Henry .45-70 lever action all-weather or not
Winner winner!
Glock 17
5.56 AR15 keymod
22/250 Savage Axis bolt action or in .308
Benelli M4 or M3 in 12GA
Marlin 18in .22lr with an optic
my first gun was a stevens (savage arms now) break action shotgun I got from my grandpa. full choke 35 in barrel, kicks like a mule, but my favorite part of single shot guns is that they teach you how to make your shots count. especially for new shooters
I lucked into a sporterized kar98 re-barrelled in .308 with an old school Weaver scope for $295. Was picking up ammo and saw it on the wall. Yay magic find deer rifle. Added bonus, was still dialed in at 200 yards.
The only firearm I have is a 1909 remington .22 pump action.
Unfortunaly I never fire it 'cause I'm 16 and not alowed to own it.
Yes you can you can even bring it out alone. The only firearm you cant have are handguns. But you can't buy guns and ammo until your 18. But you can posses them.
I've had my old Glock 22 Gen 2 since 1994. Still solid. Goes bang every time and hits where I point it.
Marlin 336 in 30-30 is my choice.
I would have thought you would have picked something of the same caliber. Like a 357 it works for both rifle and pistol .
Have a Ruger 350 LEGEND, Savage .308, .22 m69 Romanian, and a .50 muzzle loader in bolt action. All great guns. The savage I had the trigger done to about 1.4 lbs still drop safe all are very accurate and all were inexpensive.
Thank you for the Rational Glock, M&P, XD, and other type discussion!
1:15 "With utility comes usefulness"
...really?
No
You said it in this video. "If it gets stolen out of your truck" There is a huge crack down here in Florida(and I am sure elsewhere) on guns stolen from vehicles or homes where the victim of the crime is put at fault because a piece of their property was stolen. Why isn't a bank put at fault for a bank robbery because of all the random money laying around? I have had guns stolen. I was younger and could not afford a safe, or was too young and naive and thought that I would not have been burglarized in the first place. Why are victims constantly accused of being the cause of their loss or pain when it is the perpetrator of the crime, and usually a felony, that should be the one ostracized? Sometime tanks are stolen off of military bases, bulldozers off of construction sites, but a guy looses his truck gun is the detriment to society. A bulldozer can do a hell of a lot more damage than a Mossberg 500.
It's all about whether or not they can more than if they should. Individuals are easier scapegoats than corporate or military entities.
Awesome I just couldn't stop watching and your verbal skills keep it very interesting great information Love your show.
Love my ancient bolt action .22 and single 12 GA. Live in deep mountain rural area. Country boy survives!
12 gauge shotty, .357 revolver, .30 .30 win lever gun, sks, .22 semi auto.
I'd rather have a lever action 22 over a semi auto 22.
"With utility comes usefulness" what do you think the word utility means.....
Marlin model 60 22lr
Better than the pump, semi auto, and costs about $100
I have the 795, and it was cheap, and shoots great. So I put a boyd's spike camp on it, and it shoots even better!
As for the single shot shotgun you can use it as a muzzle loader or any number of inserts are made for it.
Loved the bit about "people buy a nice expensive hunting rifle and then never take it out cause they're afraid it'll get dinged up". This exactly. I had a Sig Nightmare 1911 that was fantastic for carry, home defense, you name it..but it was expensive and I babied it. I ended up selling it and buying a CZ82 because I didnt want to have to think twice before actually USING the gun. Also I had a friend who bought a Glock. Spent nearly a grand upgrading it to make it the perfect carry gun. Once he was done he literally bought the exact same gun and kept it stock and carried that one instead because his upgraded one was too risky to use in the field lmao. It's crazy but this is some of the shit to think about
I think a 6.5 grendel or a 30-30 levergun is a more practical choice than a 5.56, personally.
Cade Johnson 30/30 12ga pump and .22lr should have been in top three
a savage 223 is a damn fine rifle and i will recommend it to anyone
nathan rash I don't really care for savage rifles cause once you get into bigger calibers (which is what we primarily run due to better range and more power) that recoil is harsh as hell
I absolutely agree!!! I have a savage 223 that makes the $2000 guns look stupid at distance
motorcycle gang of bears would be a great patch or shirt idea
You boys forgot or perhaps don't know about them, that is the Savage model 24's. An over/under rifle-shotgun that were made in a bunch of caliber/gauge combos.
Bolt-action centerfire rifle: I have a Lee-Enfield Model 1 Mark 3 in .303 British caliber with an aftermarket 'sporter' stock. It is accurate, dependable and enough power with the right loads to take down just about any large game in North America. And it is in good shape for it's age (barrel/action dates from 1933) but not something that's so pretty or expensive that I have to worry about getting dings and scratches on it. Just a good, tough accurate rifle.