Former drummer here in the middle of a Steely Dan drum cover rabbit hole--I love this because it's such a great demonstration of playing exactly what the song needs.
@@KaitsuDrums I'm not nearly as good as you are, but my biggest inspiration always was Charlie Watts. I tried to copy him, which helped me to stay focused and not lose myself in unnecessary ego tripping
This captures what drumming is all about to me. Great groove and taste. Fantastic drum sounds. Great mix...(not to mention great cover choices!). A lesson in how a pro plays right here!
The best cover of this anywhere. If you had $5.00 for every time I have played along to you during my practice sessions, you might be rich! It is almost always the start of my warm up for my practices. Not too fast, but fairly complex and gets everything working together. Being able to finally play with you note for note led me to believe I was finally truly an intermediate drummer. The last thing to master and the hardest for me, was doing the open/close doubles on the hi-hats while maintaining the groove on the bass drum. Not so easy as that is some pretty sophisticated syncopation for a novice. Every other cover of this piece simplifies aspects of this that you seem to do with ease.
You have an excellent groove, something so needed in this song. I've heard too many drummers worry about duplicating exact beats and measures that they forget about really getting into the song. Awesome job.
I heard a Jeff Porcaro interview on RUclips recently and he that he did over 50 takes of this song. Making it sound fresh after that many takes is an art form imo.
i love jeff porcaro groove master comments, that's exactly what i was think about. i love drums, i love steely dan, and i can tell you, Kaisu san, that you have exactly what any musician in this world must have, spirit, soul, love, and respect. that's pretty cool.
Kai, man you are an absolute master. Your covers are incredible, skillful and the recording quality is so good. Amazing tone on your toms, a fat snare and your bass drum just comes up at you out of the floor. Ha ... thanks for sharing with all of us to learn from. Kind Regards, Tom Pollock
I remember this qhwn I was a young boy Kai, and you brought it back to life, thank you brother...inspiration all over again....👍👍👍👏👏...look at this groupie following Kai all over the internet lololol.....thanks....hey nineteen....memories, one of the smoothest song back in the days and Kai covered it like a LEGEND....you are before your time brother...
Great cover man and the one you said I never knew that song man you are good. I am a drummer almost 30 years with natural rhythm great band Steely Dan was.
Nobody plays covers as good as you K! In a word..."integrity" to the original recording. You should post what you learn from getting inside the original recording by forsaking YOUR ideas for the session drummer "first seek to understand before being understood" This style of drumming is never fully appreciated...there is no place to hide. When your fill choices are so limited, every note and sound source counts to convey the pulse of the song. Love how you gave us some free bars of time at the end!
As someone who has studied the style of Marotta in depth one little observation which may help improve your touch - your right hand upstrokes are very high when playing the eighth notes. My old teacher Chad Wackerman used to speak about wasted motion. Watch all the elite players like Gadd Marotta Newmark Purdie Porcaro they rebound off the hi hat. They all have "soft hands". Listen to Marotta play on I'm Easy by Randy Crawford or When The Morning Comes by James Taylor the hi hat touch is light. Besides that...good job.
Great job Kai! Big Dan lover here. Your groove (and the original drummers) shows that simple gets the job done. It's hard for a drummer to restrain themselves. Very tempting to overplay or cram in a 'cool' fill. But that would ruin this song. Groove pocket and simple fills fit this song perfectly. To beat a dead horse...anything more and it would not be the same and not work as well!!! Drummers take this to heart. Don't need to be cramming stuff in that doesn't need to be there.
Always loved the Dan music...and a tight groove drummer...my drummer friend passed a few years ago, and I have not as yet found a good drummer with his chops and yours are similar...cheers
Whoa I was sweating there along with you Kaitsu. What a mental workout. Sounds a simple part but it requires intense concentration. I mean come on your competing with Wendel's atomic clock ;-) Great job! More Steely covers would be cool! :-)
+KaitsuDrums Absolutely. Those hi-hats are robotic yet slippery. The other standout feature of the groove is that it simultaneously propels the song forward whilst laying it way back. Very much lack a great jazz drummer would do. Speaking of tricky hi-hats and Rick Marotta you might enjoy playing along with Chuck Rainey on "Peg" (Jeff Pocaro's favourite groove!).
Rick Marotta really has very personal groove with laidback snare and Peg might be his finest recording. I have played that a lot :) Check out my Kid Charlemagne cover also for more Steely Dan.
Anyone commenting that calls this drum piece “easy “ just doesn’t get it. Every drummer I’ve played with always tries to claim this is simple, when in fact, if you miss those fills you train wreck the song. They almost always wreck this song. I can’t even properly understand the fills leading into the verse enough to sequence it on a beat machine. If anyone can spell this out to me I’d surely appreciate it. Amazing job.
Love this especially seeing the bass drum . but is it my imagination that he is playing 8th notes on the hi-hat when the original has quarters at least in the early bars?
Hi Donald. I'm not copying this exactly like on a record because it was played by a machine...the fills should be quite close to the original but I also left some overdubbed crashes off my version. Thanks for checking!
Thanks Tom! I left that crash out in purpose, it didn't fit to the song in my opinion :) By the way i just saw 2 Steely Dan gigs at the Beacon Theatre New York, Royal Scam and Nightfly album nights...they were REALLY GOOD! I have now seen 5 Steely Dan concerts.
Hi Stephanie! Burying the beater is not a good idea and I'm constantly trying to let it bounce off the head, you'll get a fuller sound if you don't bury it. But if you want a tighter sound then burying is ok. You have to have a pretty loose kick head that this works.
I really enjoy this kind of playing. I watch JR Robinson as well. Sometimes I think I am pretty good, then reality hits me when I watch guys like you. Practice does make perfect.
Thanks! We are all different but I really love these studio players like Steve Ferrone, JR, Jeff Porcaro...My favourite drummers first name seems to be Steve (Ferrone, Gadd, Jordan :)
Thanks Haydes! This track is just the original from Gaucho so it's not a special backing track. You might hear the original drums on tom fills :) I have only used a couple of backing tracks, Two Princes and Kid Charlemagne, others are original versions and I'm just playing over those.
+KaitsuDrums Wow that's great how the original drums are barely heard. I've been looking on the net for songs minus drums and only found karaoke version half decent songs. But not original songs. So how do you take the drums out of original songs??
You can't remove drums completely from the original songs. I have sometimes cut a few db's from 80 Hz (kick drum) and maybe around 6 k (hihat) but it doesn't help much. You'd need multitracks for the songs if you want to have drums off completely. You can find some those from Guitar Hero or Rock Band game tracks. Sometimes you'll find "drumless" versions from net if you just search enough :)
Pete, I only play brushes with traditional grip and maybe some jazz. My rimshot sound would vary too much with trad grip because I haven't practised it enough :)
Do you not know that the actual track used a drum box ? The Dan spent $150,000 of their advance on developing one of the first sampled drum sound players
KaitsuDrums ..... you didn’t miss them, you just didn’t do them😉 everyone has their own style. Cover don’t mean copy. Your tempo is perfect. Your playing accompanies. You’re a damn good drummer dude. I usually drop a signed beat on the tom before the snare on that short fill. You do the opposite. I like yours better! Thanks for that little lesson and for sharing.
Great performance. That track sounds so much better with real drums rather than the terrible and dated sound of the Wendel drum machine. The drum machine spoils the album, nothing dates quicker than futurism.
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Former drummer here in the middle of a Steely Dan drum cover rabbit hole--I love this because it's such a great demonstration of playing exactly what the song needs.
"The challenge of this song is to keep a hypnotic groove and not rush any fills." Well, that's the key to all good drumming. Good job, sir.
Thanks Gard :)
@@KaitsuDrums I'm not nearly as good as you are, but my biggest inspiration always was Charlie Watts. I tried to copy him, which helped me to stay focused and not lose myself in unnecessary ego tripping
This captures what drumming is all about to me. Great groove and taste. Fantastic drum sounds. Great mix...(not to mention great cover choices!). A lesson in how a pro plays right here!
Thank You Very Much KSDrumful :)
And the funny thing is this beat is so easy to play. That's all you need. Simple, effective
The best cover of this anywhere. If you had $5.00 for every time I have played along to you during my practice sessions, you might be rich! It is almost always the start of my warm up for my practices. Not too fast, but fairly complex and gets everything working together. Being able to finally play with you note for note led me to believe I was finally truly an intermediate drummer. The last thing to master and the hardest for me, was doing the open/close doubles on the hi-hats while maintaining the groove on the bass drum. Not so easy as that is some pretty sophisticated syncopation for a novice. Every other cover of this piece simplifies aspects of this that you seem to do with ease.
Those cymbal crashes are among my favourite monents in drum. Thanks for the show, dude.
Thanks Phil! Great that you liked it :)
You have an excellent groove, something so needed in this song. I've heard too many drummers worry about duplicating exact beats and measures that they forget about really getting into the song. Awesome job.
Thanks so much Clete!
I heard a Jeff Porcaro interview on RUclips recently and he that he did over 50 takes of this song. Making it sound fresh after that many takes is an art form imo.
Hey Greg, I think you mixed up this song with Gaucho from the same album. Jeff plays on that one with around 46 edits if I remember correctly :)
You’re correct thanks.
i love jeff porcaro groove master comments, that's exactly what i was think about. i love drums, i love steely dan, and i can tell you, Kaisu san, that you have exactly what any musician in this world must have, spirit, soul, love, and respect. that's pretty cool.
+johan nicholson Thanks for the Very nice comment! Really appreciate that!
you welcome my friend, it is just words from the bottom of my heart,.
Kai, man you are an absolute master. Your covers are incredible, skillful and the recording quality is so good. Amazing tone on your toms, a fat snare and your bass drum just comes up at you out of the floor. Ha ... thanks for sharing with all of us to learn from. Kind Regards, Tom Pollock
That Longo is a dream! Great pocket playing, very solid bass drum, great dynamics in between your limbs, that makes a dfference!
Great sounding hi-hats!!!!....they’re like your playing....crisp and smooth.....very very nice!!!
I remember this qhwn I was a young boy Kai, and you brought it back to life, thank you brother...inspiration all over again....👍👍👍👏👏...look at this groupie following Kai all over the internet lololol.....thanks....hey nineteen....memories, one of the smoothest song back in the days and Kai covered it like a LEGEND....you are before your time brother...
That subtle hi-hat change after the bridge is sweet syrup. Slurp!
Great! My first tune I learned to play. Still love it and that Motown fill.
Great time keeping, feel and nice pocket!
Great cover man and the one you said I never knew that song man you are good. I am a drummer almost 30 years with natural rhythm great band Steely Dan was.
Marvellous timing, especially in the Motown-like fills!
Thanks Nico!
Outstanding performance Kai! Love the way you always capture the groove and rhythmic nuances in every song you cover.
Great job. That funky feel and groove are tight man. Excellent, really enjoyed your playing.
Thanks!!
Nobody plays covers as good as you K! In a word..."integrity" to the original recording.
You should post what you learn from getting inside the original recording by forsaking
YOUR ideas for the session drummer "first seek to understand before being understood" This style of drumming is never fully appreciated...there is no place to hide. When your fill choices are so limited, every note and sound source counts to convey the pulse of the song. Love how you gave us some free bars of time at the end!
Your drum covers are really good. Awesome. Groovy and all that stuff. Makes me really happy. 👍
Love this.....great sounding kit, as well!! :)
Flawless groove, impecable. I always thought Porcaro did it, but it was Rick Marotta, the same from "Peg".
Nunca dejes de tocar, es un placer escucharte... buen gusto y super excelente sonido!!!!..... siempre te estoy escuchando
Very clean high hat work. I think that is one of the hardest parts to master. You don't want the sound to "travel" any further than it has to.
Thank you :)
Brilliant, just great! Thanks!
Pat Jennings Thanks Pat!
Always love your playing.
I love this. Lots of people can sit behind a kit and flip out, but it takes a drummer to lay back and keep the beat for 4 or 5 minutes.
Finally someone on RUclips who can play drums.
Wow!! I listened to this 10 times!
Thanks Lynda :)
AWESOME KIA! I LOVE HEY NINETEEN. When it comes on Pandora I stop everything. Between Ambrosia and Steely Dan I can't get much done, haha.
Thanks very much Bruce!
Another great cover Kai... the toms sound just delicious!
HoldenMcG Thank you!
bien joué Kai bravo! c'est un de mes titres préféré!
Fantastic and no easy task. Cheers! Roger Nichols would be proud.
Very nice Kai, its tempting to play a lot more then this song require, but you did it the right way, I like it!
Awesome sounding kit, awesome playing, awesome song, and massive groove. Love it :D
Awesome Rob!! Thank you very muchos :)
As someone who has studied the style of Marotta in depth one little observation which may help improve your touch - your right hand upstrokes are very high when playing the eighth notes. My old teacher Chad Wackerman used to speak about wasted motion. Watch all the elite players like Gadd Marotta Newmark Purdie Porcaro they rebound off the hi hat. They all have "soft hands". Listen to Marotta play on I'm Easy by Randy Crawford or When The Morning Comes by James Taylor the hi hat touch is light. Besides that...good job.
Villaboy, Thanks for the great analysis 🙏
Note for note perfection! Well done, sir!
Such great momentum in this song.
Great job Kai! Big Dan lover here. Your groove (and the original drummers) shows that simple gets the job done. It's hard for a drummer to restrain themselves. Very tempting to overplay or cram in a 'cool' fill. But that would ruin this song. Groove pocket and simple fills fit this song perfectly. To beat a dead horse...anything more and it would not be the same and not work as well!!! Drummers take this to heart. Don't need to be cramming stuff in that doesn't need to be there.
Thank You Bill 🙏
So useful to have the inset view of the BD pedal.
Takes on the GOAT. Kills it.
Nice perfect groove...Sounz good from here in Oz
Thank you!
Always loved the Dan music...and a tight groove drummer...my drummer friend passed a few years ago, and I have not as yet found a good drummer with his chops and yours are similar...cheers
Here you again man crankin...🤙👍
Fantastic job
I salute you sir!
Smoooooth...jälleen kerran!
Rock solid, great job
Thanks Brian!
Perfect!!
Marvellous
Sounding great man! Great playing Kai! Keep it up buddy!
Alaa A R Thanks Alaa!
Awesome!
Love the groove!
Dope! This cooks!
This guy is good. Real good.
Thanks Shane!! Going to see Steely Dan Royal Scam evening at the Beacon Theater NYC in october :)
I am not a drummer, I am a musician. But bloody hell, you are too cool!!!!!
Really sorry. Joking. It's what we say about drummers but we know that the drummer is the bones of the group and the bass player is the muscle.
Excellent tight drumming!
Thank you!
Very good..!!!
Whoa I was sweating there along with you Kaitsu. What a mental workout. Sounds a simple part but it requires intense concentration.
I mean come on your competing with Wendel's atomic clock ;-)
Great job! More Steely covers would be cool! :-)
Thank Ian! Yes it requires extra concentration because it's so simple and repetive yet there's some little hihat dynamix etc.
+KaitsuDrums Absolutely. Those hi-hats are robotic yet slippery. The other standout feature of the groove is that it simultaneously propels the song forward whilst laying it way back. Very much lack a great jazz drummer would do.
Speaking of tricky hi-hats and Rick Marotta you might enjoy playing along with Chuck Rainey on "Peg" (Jeff Pocaro's favourite groove!).
Rick Marotta really has very personal groove with laidback snare and Peg might be his finest recording. I have played that a lot :) Check out my Kid Charlemagne cover also for more Steely Dan.
Anyone commenting that calls this drum piece “easy “ just doesn’t get it. Every drummer I’ve played with always tries to claim this is simple, when in fact, if you miss those fills you train wreck the song. They almost always wreck this song. I can’t even properly understand the fills leading into the verse enough to sequence it on a beat machine. If anyone can spell this out to me I’d surely appreciate it. Amazing job.
Man you are realy good..!!! Please, please, please do "Night by night" for us some day..
Thanks! Some day maybe :)
Love this especially seeing the bass drum . but is it my imagination that he is playing 8th notes on the hi-hat when the original has quarters at least in the early bars?
Hi Donald. I'm not copying this exactly like on a record because it was played by a machine...the fills should be quite close to the original but I also left some overdubbed crashes off my version. Thanks for checking!
Nice!
I don't know if you concentrated on the drum fills or not, but you did a spot on job!! Timing and rhythm fell in perfectly with the song. Awesome!!
This was Rick Morratta on this track
Adam H correct!
Solid
Simple, nice and awfully cool!
Thanks Luis!
Eres un excelente baterista.
Very good but you kept missing this one cymbal hit.
Thanks Tom! I left that crash out in purpose, it didn't fit to the song in my opinion :) By the way i just saw 2 Steely Dan gigs at the Beacon Theatre New York, Royal Scam and Nightfly album nights...they were REALLY GOOD! I have now seen 5 Steely Dan concerts.
What do you have,Hi end equipment I thought it was two hits.
2:12 is one of my favorite drum patterns
Sweet and tight brother!
Byron Anderson Thanks Byron!
Nice! Sho looks good ;)
Sounds great, nice feel, now if you can just mix in a Wendel Jr with your snare you'd have the exact sound of the snare too.
I can play this on my table top kit minus the bass drum. Lol just learning. Trying to work on my independence
Nice Dude!
Thanks João!
Nice playing, nice set up!!!!
I can't seem to get my beater to bury into the bass drum head. Can you tell me if it's head tension, pedal setup, and/or technique?
Hi Stephanie! Burying the beater is not a good idea and I'm constantly trying to let it bounce off the head, you'll get a fuller sound if you don't bury it. But if you want a tighter sound then burying is ok. You have to have a pretty loose kick head that this works.
Very nice job dude.. I was in a SD tribute band for a period , and you nailed it .. That a DW kick pedal ?
Thanks man! It would be great to play in SD tribute band again :) Yes it's DW 9000 kick pedal.
Awesome. How do you mix the actual track into the audio of this video, then play on top of that? I want to learn how to do that. Thanks!
Very nice...can you tell me approximately how many hours you spent learning this?
Thanks! It's a very simple groove to play but to play it really good takes many years to learn. So it took about 25 years for me :)
Do you change the snares? You have quite a collection. Great sounding drums.
Joe, yes I change snares all the time but i have a few favourites.
I really enjoy this kind of playing. I watch JR Robinson as well. Sometimes I think I am pretty good, then reality hits me when I watch guys like you. Practice does make perfect.
Thanks!! But let's not compare JR's and my videos :) All the best!!
Wouldn't compare, everyone has their own style. But love watching how fluid you play.
Thanks! We are all different but I really love these studio players like Steve Ferrone, JR, Jeff Porcaro...My favourite drummers first name seems to be Steve (Ferrone, Gadd, Jordan :)
nice
How high is hihat mic above hihat? sounds great
Hi-Hat mic is about 10 centimeters from the hi-hat. Thanks!
Loved it only slight thing found snare a little bit abrasive, great groove, though 👌
Hey Kai, love your drum covers. Just 1 question. How or where do you get your backing tracks from? Awesome work.
Thanks Haydes! This track is just the original from Gaucho so it's not a special backing track. You might hear the original drums on tom fills :) I have only used a couple of backing tracks, Two Princes and Kid Charlemagne, others are original versions and I'm just playing over those.
+KaitsuDrums Wow that's great how the original drums are barely heard. I've been looking on the net for songs minus drums and only found karaoke version half decent songs. But not original songs. So how do you take the drums out of original songs??
You can't remove drums completely from the original songs. I have sometimes cut a few db's from 80 Hz (kick drum) and maybe around 6 k (hihat) but it doesn't help much. You'd need multitracks for the songs if you want to have drums off completely. You can find some those from Guitar Hero or Rock Band game tracks. Sometimes you'll find "drumless" versions from net if you just search enough :)
notice you use a matched grip, ever played crossed ?
Pete, I only play brushes with traditional grip and maybe some jazz. My rimshot sound would vary too much with trad grip because I haven't practised it enough :)
“Nice” 😃
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Do you not know that the actual track used a drum box ? The Dan spent $150,000 of their advance on developing one of the first sampled drum sound players
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What is the snare drum??
This snare is 14x6 Longo walnut solid shell.
Aja Please!
Missing crashes on such a simple chart is kinda inexcuseable, dont ya think?
Thank for watching Keith, it was intentional :)
Missed some crashes throughout the song but solid.
Thanks Bill, I didn't play few overdubbed crashes on purpose...
OK. Great cover.
KaitsuDrums ..... you didn’t miss them, you just didn’t do them😉 everyone has their own style. Cover don’t mean copy. Your tempo is perfect. Your playing accompanies. You’re a damn good drummer dude. I usually drop a signed beat on the tom before the snare on that short fill. You do the opposite. I like yours better! Thanks for that little lesson and for sharing.
Kai "Wendel" Jokiaho
Haha :))
*Kai sorry auto correct
2:15
Great performance. That track sounds so much better with real drums rather than the terrible and dated sound of the Wendel drum machine. The drum machine spoils the album, nothing dates quicker than futurism.
Thanks very much!
nice